Unlikeable Pony 2,699 November 29, 2015 Share November 29, 2015 Well, hold on a minute. Twilight shouldn't be an alicorn either. She was "promoted" to the position of princess by Celestia. Shining Armor is in the same position. Either they're both alicorns or neither are alicorns. Inconsistencies galore, I wanna go to sleep. It's a kids' show. Whatever. Boys don't get to be princessesAlicorns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Selanno 351 November 29, 2015 Share November 29, 2015 (edited) Awwwwwwwww, whyyyyyyyyy? I wanna be a pwincess alicorn! Edited November 29, 2015 by Galen Selanno MLP. Home sweet home. I forgot how nice the residents of Equestria could be. Anyone seen The Martian? __ ____ ____ /'\_/`\/\ \ /\ _`\ /\ _`\ /\ \ \ \ \ \ \L\ \ \ \ \L\_\___ _ __ __ __ ___ ___ ____ \ \ \__\ \ \ \ __\ \ ,__/ \ \ _\/ __`\/\`'__\/\ \/\ \ /' __` __`\ /',__\ \ \ \_/\ \ \ \L\ \\ \ \/ \ \ \/\ \L\ \ \ \/ \ \ \_\ \/\ \/\ \/\ \/\__, `\ \ \_\\ \_\ \____/ \ \_\ \ \_\ \____/\ \_\ \ \____/\ \_\ \_\ \_\/\____/ \/_/ \/_/\/___/ \/_/ \/_/\/___/ \/_/ \/___/ \/_/\/_/\/_/\/___/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best poni 1,521 November 29, 2015 Share November 29, 2015 Because he married into his royalty Signature by Laika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshirt Brony 415 November 29, 2015 Share November 29, 2015 Both his screen-time and cutie mark suggest that it is just not Armor's role/Will within that reality to be considered royalty. We are led to believe that he is the best at defending Canterlot (despite throwing his wife at his enemies) so that is what he does. Twilight, on the other hand, plays an active role within the Equestrian hierarchy, but does so because of skill and apparent divine purpose as opposed to blood relation or marrying into a "proper" family. There's also the possibility that Equestria just happens to be a matriarchy, which would make a lot of sense for varying reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova star 0 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 Maybe males can't become alicorn even if the male is a prince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarston1 5,960 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 I guess Stallions can't become alicorns or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyOfWar 126 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 (edited) Marrying royalty doesn't actually make someone royalty. If a normal women married a prince she becomes a a dutchess, not a princess, it's actually considered (or was in the past) disgraceful for royalty to marry anyone who wasn't since all royal marriages are political and the kingdom gained nothing from shining and cadences marriage. In fact it just makes her look worse from a political stand point, regardless he wouldn't gain status or royal blood by marrying into it, therefore undiserving of being an alicorn. Edited July 25, 2016 by PonyOfWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBaby 660 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 (edited) Marrying royalty doesn't actually make someone royalty. If a normal women married a prince she becomes a a dutchess, not a princess, it's actually considered (or was in the past) disgraceful for royalty to marry anyone who wasn't since all royal marriages are political and the kingdom gained nothing from shining and cadences marriage. In fact it just makes her look worse from a political stand point, regardless he wouldn't gain status or royal blood by marrying into it, therefore undiserving of being an alicorn. Do you want a conflict over the throne? Because that would be the direction the show would be headed in if it had your mindset. Why should any of the ponies care where her husband came from? What defines a royal marriage in Equestria, or for that matter the Crystal Empire? I need some concrete canonical in-show answers if you're going to make a claim like that. Because if memory serves me correctly, the only thing they've ever so much as implied is that if a pony is born to royals, that pony is a royal. Not only that, but it's possible that in the past it WAS as you said. But after the Windigo Collapse, they probably would have very quickly decided to put an end to that since the surviving ponies would have been so beaten up by that event, that they couldn't continue the way they were going. In answer to the TC so we don't veer too far off topic here, he probably didn't have an Alicorn in the family, or he didn't ascend into one. But the fact that he isn't is proof that not all royalty in MLP have to be Alicorns. So I'm perfectly fine with that. Edited July 25, 2016 by SBaby A Winner Is You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlinkZ 1,151 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 Princess Celestia is a sexist tyrant. In her future vision of Equestria, all stallions will be slaves. ...No, I don't know. I've thought about this myself, but haven't come up with an answer. HahahA! yeah this show does a heavy focus on females while the male characters just get little if any devolopment. I mean males in a goverment role, how unothodox. other then fancy pants I guess. Zubric(fimfiction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyOfWar 126 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 (edited) Do you want a conflict over the throne? Because that would be the direction the show would be headed in if it had your mindset. Why should any of the ponies care where her husband came from? What defines a royal marriage in Equestria, or for that matter the Crystal Empire? I need some concrete canonical in-show answers if you're going to make a claim like that. Because if memory serves me correctly, the only thing they've ever so much as implied is that if a pony is born to royals, that pony is a royal. Not only that, but it's possible that in the past it WAS as you said. But after the Windigo Collapse, they probably would have very quickly decided to put an end to that since the surviving ponies would have been so beaten up by that event, that they couldn't continue the way they were going. In answer to the TC so we don't veer too far off topic here, he probably didn't have an Alicorn in the family, or he didn't ascend into one. But the fact that he isn't is proof that not all royalty in MLP have to be Alicorns. So I'm perfectly fine with that. Relax, I think you read to much into my post not trying to start a fight over differing speculations, simply using what I have learned about real life royalty to give my opinion. It's cool if you don't agree with it but the show hasn't shown anything one way or another. Honestly the last thing on the creators mind is probably stuff like this, they just wanted a cute wedding episode for people to enjoy and not trying to get all "game of thrones" with my little pony. It probably wouldn't have been a very good episode if the wedding was something political, though shining armor wouldn't be the right canadate for politics. An arranged marriage between blood blue and queen chrysalis to unite pony and changling kind might be interesting though. Edited July 25, 2016 by PonyOfWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBaby 660 July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 (edited) Relax, I think you read to much into my post not trying to start a fight over differing speculations, simply using what I have learned about real life royalty to give my opinion. It's cool if you don't agree with it but the show hasn't shown anything one way or another. It's just the way the post came off, it sounded like Cadence was somehow being a terrible ruler because of who she chose to marry, and the thing is there is probably a reason why it's set up that way in the show (the fact that Celestia and Luna never married might tie into this). I have to imagine that the 'Windigo Collapse' (as it's often called) might have been part of it, but also when Celestia and Luna took over, Discord had just been removed from power (he ruled the land for an undisclosed amount of time beforehand). So all that probably factors in. In fact, the original disharmony could very well have been caused by a conflict over the throne. And that's not even mentioning the Crystal Empire itself. That could have had something to do with it. Honestly the last thing on the creators mind is probably stuff like this, they just wanted a cute wedding episode for people to enjoy and not trying to get all "game of thrones" with my little pony. It probably wouldn't have been a very good episode if the wedding was something political, though shining armor wouldn't be the right canadate for politics. An arranged marriage between blood blue and queen chrysalis to unite pony and changling kind might be interesting though. I have a feeling that if they tried to do any kind of arranged marriage though, the show would probably paint it in a negative light and upset a lot of viewers. That's probably one of the reasons it wasn't done that way, from a marketing perspective. Edited July 25, 2016 by SBaby A Winner Is You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora Glimmer 494 July 27, 2016 Share July 27, 2016 Shining Armor is prince consort of the Crystal Empire, not prince regnant. Presumably, if Shining were prince regnant, he'd be an Alicorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhaolan 4,484 July 27, 2016 Share July 27, 2016 It has to be remembered that for a thousand years or so the primary princess of Equestria was an alicorn: Celestia. And for the relatively brief time Luna was not in exile, she was also a princess, and an alicorn. And when Cadance and Twilight became alicorns, Celestia dubbed them princesses. Given that amount of time in that situation, tradition has probably become than an Alicorn is automatically a Princess. However, given that in very old Equestrian tales (such as the Hearth's Warming Eve story), there was a Princess who *wasn't* an Alicorn (Princess Platinum), I think we can say that Princess does not automatically mean an Alicorn. Add in that Blueblood was called a Prince, and he's not an alicorn, he's probably a blood relative of that old Unicorn 'noble' line. And there has been references to places outside of Equestria with their own nobility. We don't necessarily know all the titles they use, but it would be safe to say Prince/Princess probably show up somewhere. So becoming a Prince or a Princess won't trigger Alicornication. But if any other Alicorns show up, they will probably be addressed as Prince or Princess regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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