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Any gore that's in image form. I'm fine when it comes to fics but show me a vid and... *shudders*

Smile HD for example, not only would I never watch it because the mere idea of it is terrifying but the fact that it exists with NO visible content warnings in a place where children could easily find it and mistake it for something innocent makes me violently ill!

 

That's one fear, the other is that the word Brony will forever be seen as intertwined with misogyny and unkindness, and that in every conversation about bronies forever I will be stripped of my gender and sexuality for the sake of not threatening a stereotype that shouldn't exist in the first place :(

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My grievance is a lack of openmindedness along with stubbornness that leads to explosions of 'fandom drama' which are always completely unnecessary, more or less. A lot of people seem to think their 'ideal' should apply to the fandom as a whole and conveniently forget the incredible diversity of the fanbase.

^This. I agree 100%. The elitism and "this is how you should be a fan, you're doing it wrong" annoys me to no end.

 

Those grimdark stories the fandom produces, like Cupcakes, Cheerilee's  Garden, etc. I don't see why we have to have those, but I guess that comes with the territory of having a fandom -_-

 

Also, the fact that the .MOV series got popular  :eww: 

 

Ughh.

 

To be fair, Cheerilee's Garden wasn't half bad. It was an achievement in my eyes because it was a grimdark/gorefic that was actually freakin' scary. The psychological horror aspect and the fact the writer managed to make the villain interesting to see into the twisted mind of made it all the more horrifying.    

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To be fair, Cheerilee's Garden wasn't half bad. It was an achievement in my eyes because it was a grimdark/gorefic that was actually freakin' scary/ The psychological horror aspect and the fact the writer managed to make the villain interesting to see into the twisted mind of made it all the more horrifying.    

To be fair, it all comes down to personal preference, and I'm not one for grimdark nor gore :D 

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To be fair, it all comes down to personal preference, and I'm not one for grimdark nor gore :D 

 

I'm generally not either, but I found that one a guilty pleasure. 

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A lot of people seem to think their 'ideal' should apply to the fandom as a whole and conveniently forget the incredible diversity of the fanbase.

 

Just out of curiousity okay no that's a lie; the entirety of my involvement in this fandom is based in personal idealism, why does this scare you? Does not idealism usually lead to positivity and collective hope?

 

One ideal that's a personal favorite of mine is Love And Tolerance. Is that what you're referring to, or do you mean the ideology of anti-clop purists like the DWM people?

 

 

^This. I agree 100%. The elitism and "this is how you should be a fan, you're doing it wrong" annoys me to no end.

I dislike elitism based in popularity, but are you referring to moral elitism like the anti-R34 and anti-gore things, those that hate on others within the fandom for their actions? I do not quite understand what specifically you are referring to.

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I personally refer those who find actual rational reasons to discredit mlp and bronies as dislikes, they are usually credible and would not attack the fans personally.

 

The haters on the other are mainly irrational, they don't seem to possess practical reasoning, sort of like those extremists in various religions.

 

 

 

On the other hand, there are several kinds of bronies as well.

 

One is the ideal type that likes the show, kind of spreads it around but never to the point of spamming.

 

While the other type is the "rabid" kind which post pony stuff all over the place, ADAPT PONY LANGUAGE in conversations both online and offline, and last, blindly reject all negative feedbacks as hate.

 

 

The two things that I find terrifying are the extremists of both sides. We have enough extremists in this world to wreck havoc, we don't need more.

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Those who act like MLP ponies are real. If you seriously believe you are IRL friends with Pinkie Pie, go see a doctor because something is wrong with you.

 

On a similar note, I saw a thread about tulpas, which is basically a fancy word for an imaginary friend that adults say to feel less ridiculous about not outgrowing that. That's pretty weird too.

Completely agree with you on the people who think MLP is real. I like to think it's real, but it's (probably) not. The truth hurts.

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There is some seriously messed up gore that disturbs me, I find R34 material tolerable, except for when its of younger characters(CMC,Spike .etc) that is completely revolting to me.


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For me that would either be me, or Celestia and Luna. My hands are tiny compared to theirs. As a matter of fact it would seem like i'm barely a 1/5th their size. so yeah... i'd probably be scared to say something... I'd probably to nervous to do anything... I'd probably wonder what i'm wearing and why... and then the adventure begins.

 

hey, you said MLP universe.. ;)


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Just out of curiousity okay no that's a lie; the entirety of my involvement in this fandom is based in personal idealism, why does this scare you? Does not idealism usually lead to positivity and collective hope? One ideal that's a personal favorite of mine is Love And Tolerance. Is that what you're referring to, or do you mean the ideology of anti-clop purists like the DWM people?

 

That's fine, but don't force that on others is what I'm saying. MLP is in no way an ideal for me to live up to, I learned my lessons in friendship elsewhere in my life and am still refining them to this day. It's just cute ponies and a quirky little fandom. What scares me is people trying to force their ideals on others, like, 'oh hey you should live up to this beacon of whatever because brony'. No. Please. I don't have to be anything because I'm a brony. I just have to be one. I happen to like Rule 34. I happen to occasionally peruse /MLP/. I'm kind of a jerk and a troll on some parts of the internet. Does this make me a bad person? No. I'm a human with my good sides and my bad sides, so I can be whatever I want to be in whatever context as I see fit.

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After searching far and wide for Jean Valjean through this nest of "Bronies" I have learned some shocking, and might I add, downright unlawful acts of conduct. For instance, this act known as clopping is one good example of this. Another is how open people are to this heinous act.

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That's fine, but don't force that on others is what I'm saying. MLP is in no way an ideal for me to live up to, I learned my lessons in friendship elsewhere in my life and am still refining them to this day. It's just cute ponies and a quirky little fandom. What scares me is people trying to force their ideals on others, like, 'oh hey you should live up to this beacon of whatever because brony'. No. Please. I don't have to be anything because I'm a brony. I just have to be one. I happen to like Rule 34. I happen to occasionally peruse /MLP/. I'm kind of a jerk and a troll on some parts of the internet. Does this make me a bad person? No. I'm a human with my good sides and my bad sides, so I can be whatever I want to be in whatever context as I see fit.

 

Fair enough. I can't remember why I used to idealize the Brony fandom so much (that was back when I thought being a brony actually meant something--what a silly thought!) but I certainly can understand your reasoning.

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Fair enough. I can't remember why I used to idealize the Brony fandom so much (that was back when I thought being a brony actually meant something--what a silly thought!) but I certainly can understand your reasoning.

 

Hey, I'm not hating on those who do idealize it as something, more power to them. Just don't get all high and prissy with me because I don't, is what I'm saying.

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Hey, I'm not hating on those who do idealize it as something, more power to them. Just don't get all high and prissy with me because I don't, is what I'm saying.

 

Here's the problem with that reasoning, at least according to what i used to think.

 

The entire reason that I idealized the fandom--and that many others do the same--lies in it not as a group of individuals, but as a collective Whole. Those idealists want to say that Bronies are the Kindest, Friendliest, Purest people on the Internet, or something to that extent. Here's an example of that line of thought...

 

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Problems arise when individuals within the collective go against those ideals, and then the Idealists are caught in a dilemma between the reality of the situation--Bronies are a group of people and as such are innately flawed--and their hope that the Brony fandom could rise above the rest and be something more.

 

At least in my case, in order to be an idealist, I needed you and everyone else in the fandom to go along with it.

 

Which, by the way, is rather easy. You already seem to have several of the traits that I valued--Kindness and Friendliness--which are really not that difficult for most I have encountered in this fandom. Ideals, just like stereotypes, exist for a reason, even if that reason isn't quite consistent with reality. My biggest problem was that R34 clashed with my ideal of this fandom being Something More than just another fandom with its own impurities...but anyway, now I'm rambling and I sound like a jerk. *sigh* I need to learn to internalize my values. If only I was an INFP instead of an INFJ...gah! I need to be relevant.

 

My point is that, in my case at least, my ideal of the fandom required that everyone went along with it. There was no possible way I could keep my dream (that the Bronies are the Purest group of people on Earth) without actually believing it and acting accordingly.

 

EDIT: Oh by the way, in response to something in your original reply: I never idealized MLP:FiM, I only idealized its fanbase. 

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@@The Late Night Shine, it is a ramble, but it's a good one.

 

Right. The problem I have with that kind of thinking, that everyone has to be something to adhere to a small group of persons ideals, is that it's egotistical to assume that you can make everyone whatever, that it's hypocritical to expect others to change to meet you when you can always change to meet others... I can go on and on, but at the end of the day it's neither practical nor friendly, your apparently old way of thinking.

 

As far as I'm concerned, you are what defines your world. You make yourself the ideal you want to be. You're not a paragon of kindness and honesty and other good things because you're a brony. You are a brony, and you are a paragon of [insert crap here]. It's impossible to change others. The best you can do is make yourself the best you think you can be. And that's why I don't like the idea of people trying to make others in the brony fandom something they're not to fit with an ideal. It's not practical, and on some level it's not even moral. Debate all you want, but don't get mad when people don't go along.

 

And by all means, I like that you're being honest and clearly explaining yourself and your viewpoint. Good discussion we're having here.

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The only thing that has remotely scared me was that Lyra plush with the...Ahem, and how much money it was worth..  :eww:

 

That and "Sweet Apple Massacrer", it was probably the most...Interesting fan fiction I've ever read. 


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Right. The problem I have with that kind of thinking, that everyone has to be something to adhere to a small group of persons ideals, is that it's egotistical to assume that you can make everyone whatever, that it's hypocritical to expect others to change to meet you when you can always change to meet others.

That is a very good point, and I understand that. You just pinpointed why my old mindset doesn't work--but the point I was trying to get out was that there's no happy medium. I can't keep my dream if I'm the only one who cares.

 

I can go on and on, but at the end of the day it's neither practical nor friendly, your apparently old way of thinking.

I never said anything about practicality...in fact, I legitimately had a grudge against Logic last year, when I idealized the fandom in the way that I previously explained. ;) Still, you're on point with the Friendly part. I used to be better at balancing purism and friendliness than I am now, but even at the time it caused me great despair when nobody was right. For example, in what I call the "Clop Dilemma," my ideal couldn't win. I either had to side with the ones who took purity and sexualized it, or the ones who were being jerks.
 
 

As far as I'm concerned, you are what defines your world. You make yourself the ideal you want to be. You're not a paragon of kindness and honesty and other good things because you're a brony. You are a brony, and you are a paragon of [insert crap here]. It's impossible to change others. The best you can do is make yourself the best you think you can be. And that's why I don't like the idea of people trying to make others in the brony fandom something they're not to fit with an ideal. It's not practical, and on some level it's not even moral. Debate all you want, but don't get mad when people don't go along.

I know. This has been one of the most painful lessons I've learned, but I've learned it. I just wish that the Brony fandom could be something more than just a fandom with all of the requisite impurities such as R34, gore fics, drama, hate, arguments, and the like, but that can't happen.

 

 

@@The Late Night Shine, it is a ramble, but it's a good one.

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And by all means, I like that you're being honest and clearly explaining yourself and your viewpoint. Good discussion we're having here.

Thank you, friend. I appreciate that. :3

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Hehe,believe me

Scary as fuck that man.

wait wut??? i am not a bad person! i am just grimdark and metal! nah forget it

 

what scares me?? oh hell! COSPLAYERS! ARGH!!

 

edit: and for people who hates us grimdark and gorish bronies i tell you this: do i look like i care? listen, i love ponies for the cute way they are and i am envious of their perfect world.. but let me have fun sometimes! did you never seen happy tree friends? well i am not a quarter of that XD actually, i joined the fandom thanks to Rainbow Factory and Cupcakes XD go ahed, hate me XD i hated so much before being a brony that you cannot hate me enough ahahah XD

 

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Cosplayers: HOLY SHIT, HELP ME!!!!!!

The bronies that are 100% anti-human, all-ponies: C'mon... YOU ARE HUMAN, ya dumbasses!

Fanfics that make Equestria look like the Nazis, or The Borg, or The Combine

 

and finally...

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