Commander_PonyShep 349 March 4, 2014 Share March 4, 2014 (edited) I watch them a lot, and usually, they suck any enjoyment I would have otherwise had from watching the MLP show. Take, for example, Tommy Oliver's analysis of the recent episode, "It Ain't Easy Being Breezies". He praised the moral and the representations of Fluttershy and Seabreeze, but hated the episode itself because of its broken, convoluted exposition regarding the breezies, the breezies' apparent laziness, and even Twilight Sparkle resolving the conflict when it could have been Fluttershy who did that. But then you have MasterCodeFIM, who liked the episode for what it did, even couldn't find any flaws that Tommy Oliver himself found. In other words, "It Ain't Easy Being Breezies" received mixed opinions, half of them liking it for Fluttershy, Seabreeze, and the moral, and the other half hating it for its broken exposition and the other breezies acting lazy and inconsiderate. Technically, I allow other people's opinions shape and mold me into something else entirely, even though I can still form my own opinions regardless if they contradicts someone else's or not. This probably means that I need to stop watching analysis videos and make my own judgements on whether or not certain particular episodes are good. Otherwise, I won't enjoy the show, perceived flaws and everything. Edited March 5, 2014 by Commander_PonyShep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimisticNeighsayer 478 March 4, 2014 Share March 4, 2014 I should watch analysis videos but I don't. The reason I don't is because I prefer reviews written on blogs, comment sections, forums, etc. because it is easier for me to go back at a certain passage when I "review the review". Of course, I try to form my opinions before I read anyone else's, then I allow myself to be swayed. Hablo español--Je parle français--日本語を話す--我说中文--...and sarcasm (yeah right!) I compose music. Six Pony Rags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Silver Essence~ 2,625 March 4, 2014 Share March 4, 2014 Yeah, from time to time I do, but not as much. At times, I do think they over analyze the show's logic just by a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moved to Elsewhere 11,331 March 4, 2014 Share March 4, 2014 Here's what I do with analyst videos. Usually if I don't agree with what they're saying, I either watch for another opinion on it or just not watch it all together because everyone has their own opinions. Well I don't over analyze the show, I do get that it's a hobby for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong 1,726 March 4, 2014 Share March 4, 2014 Watch them? I make them. Check out some of my videos: Currently, one of my videos has been taken down by YouTube's copyright ID nonsense. Check out my channel for more: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qXAcUzrizEHvorGalU5jg Check out my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qXAcUzrizEHvorGalU5jg?feature=watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,430 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 Yup! I tend to watch plenty of them, and they're integral, too. I make an impression after watching it for the first time, rewatch it to formulate a better opinion, and then watch a few analysis videos to see their views. Usually, they don't change my opinion unless their analyses give a very great reason for me to do so, all having to do with how the episodes are constructed with their points in mind. And before I think or rethink, I tend to watch the episode or look at the transcript (either on the FIM Wiki or unofficial .doc) to see if they have a point. If the reasons are solid, they may not influence my opinion (and they usually don't), but it may influence the episode's objective quality. If they don't, they're subject to the typical bite that my comments tend to have. I watch a few people in the analysis community: Mr. Enter, Tommy Oliver, DigiBro, Voice of Reason, and Dr. Wolf. I prefer my episode or FIM analyses to be more matter-of-fact, to the point, and blunt, whether I agree with them or not. When there's so much extraneous humor padding the review or analysis, it feels like a sitcom (my second-most hated TV genre outside of reality TV) instead, and it's a waste of time. Also, as a member of the analysis community from the written half, it's very important to see good quality analyses released online (which they do plenty of the time). It's fun and hobby-like to dissect the episodes, but there's a much deeper purpose than that. Friendship Is Magic built itself a set of quality standards, and one of its purposes is to make sure they abide by them. If the episodes are good, then praise them. But if they suck, then it's important to criticize them (and if screwing up in such a way that it becomes insulting, VERY harshly!). I'm in it because I like FIM and desire to see it reach to its fullest potential. 3 "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLPForums Phanact 1,374 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I personally think they're utterly pointless. Review videos where opinion is not given are alright as they allow you to kind of try before you buy. They help someone decide if they want to watch or purchase something. When you bring opinion into it, the point of the video just drops sharply. You're telling people what you think about it and this kind of puts ideas and opinions into their minds that may not be their own. Over-analysis is also a common problem with these videos and I'm going to be the guy that argues that, yes, this is a kids show and an in depth analysis is really just not needed and most of the time it just delves way too deep where it stops making any relevance or sense. let's love for me and lets love loud and let's love now cause soon enough we'll die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SourceRabbit 10 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I watch them a lot, and usually, they suck any enjoyment I would have otherwise had from watching the MLP show. Take, for example, Tommy Oliver's analysis of the recent episode, "It Ain't Easy Being Breezies". He praised the moral and the representations of Fluttershy and Seabreeze, but hated the episode itself because of its broken, convoluted exposition regarding the breezies, the breezies' apparent laziness, and even Twilight Sparkle resolving the conflict when it could have been Fluttershy who did that. But then you have MasterCodeFIM, who liked the episode for what it did, even couldn't find any flaws that Tommy Oliver himself found. In other words, "It Ain't Easy Being Breezies" received mixed opinions, half of them liking it for Fluttershy, Seabreeze, and the moral, and the other half hating it for its broken exposition and the other breezies acting lazy and inconsiderate. Technically, I allow other people's opinions shape and mold me into something else entirely, even though I can still form my own opinions regardless if they contradicts someone else's or not. This probably means that I need to stop watching analysis videos and make my own judgements on whether or not certain particular episodes are good. Otherwise, I won't enjoy the show, perceived flaws and everything. No, not really. I dislike analysis videos very much, the reason? Most people try too hard to be deep into a show that isn't meant to be like that. Especially those who make negative reviews on the episodes because ''Why is X thing happening if in the Season 2 episode x thing happened?!'' It's almost as if they try to justify why they watch a show that isn't aimed very precisely at them, which I just find unnecesary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostfacekiller39 23,860 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 Tommy Oliver's vids are my favorites, but for obvious reasons I don't watch much others than that, to be honest He who is Positively Obsessed With All Things Rarity!!! Check out the Rarity Fan Club! "Not everyone who is pretty is necessarily beautiful. For those two to come together is truly a Rarity" -Jacob G. Rosenberg Signature by @FadedSkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong 1,726 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I personally think they're utterly pointless. Review videos where opinion is not given are alright as they allow you to kind of try before you buy. They help someone decide if they want to watch or purchase something. When you bring opinion into it, the point of the video just drops sharply. You're telling people what you think about it and this kind of puts ideas and opinions into their minds that may not be their own. Over-analysis is also a common problem with these videos and I'm going to be the guy that argues that, yes, this is a kids show and an in depth analysis is really just not needed and most of the time it just delves way too deep where it stops making any relevance or sense. Actually, that's completely disregarding the point of a review. Without an opinion expressed, you have no idea what to think of the episode. Sure, you might heartily disagree with the reviewer; but a simple yay or nay is kind of necessary. The in depth analysis can also be helpful. I don't have as many problems with Filli Vanilli because of this review: I still stand by my rating for the episode, but I personally enjoy it more now. Check out my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qXAcUzrizEHvorGalU5jg?feature=watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLPForums Phanact 1,374 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 Actually, that's completely disregarding the point of a review. Without an opinion expressed, you have no idea what to think of the episode. Sure, you might heartily disagree with the reviewer; but a simple yay or nay is kind of necessary. The in depth analysis can also be helpful. I don't have as many problems with Filli Vanilli because of this review: I still stand by my rating for the episode, but I personally enjoy it more now. I feel like reviews should be impartial. They should state what is right and wrong with a product on a factual base, not an opinion base. An analysis or 'My Thoughts' type of video or piece is much more appropriate to start adding in your opinion. Look at the recently released game Thief. IGN scored it extremely low because the reviewer they assigned to it didn't like it personally whilst many other reviewers who looked at it based on fact and features (TotalBiscuit for example) gave it brilliant review. Opinions can very quickly taint other peoples minds. let's love for me and lets love loud and let's love now cause soon enough we'll die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklingSquirrels 21,345 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 Yep, not too often, but I do watch them from time to time. I think it's interesting to see/hear other people's views, especially when they put so much work into them. However, I don't let their opinions affect my own; I like to form my own opinion before watching their videos. ֍֎֍֎ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles4lyfe 441 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I love watching analysis videos! I don't think it ruins any enjoyment that I have when watching the episode. Some of my favorite bronies in the analysis community include (in no particular order): Antony C Digibro DRWolf001 MLP Silver Quill TBBBAP Mysterious Mr. Enter Tommy Oliver VoiceofReason Like what @SparklingSwirls said, I form my own opinion about the episode before I watch the review, so the opinions of the analyzers don't really affect me. But I can understand if u don't like watching analysis videos. They're a pretty large part of the fandom now, & i'm excited to see what the future is in store for the community. #Squadgoals "But that day...The day I discovered racing...I proved that the legends were true. I made the impossible happen!"—Dash "Friendship isn't always easy, but there's no doubt it's worth fighting for."— Twilight Sparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong 1,726 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I love watching analysis videos! I don't think it ruins any enjoyment that I have when watching the episode. Some of my favorite bronies in the analysis community include (in no particular order): Antony C Digibro DRWolf001 MLP Silver Quill TBBBAP Mysterious Mr. Enter Tommy Oliver VoiceofReason Like what @SparklingSwirls said, I form my own opinion about the episode before I watch the review, so the opinions of the analyzers don't really affect me. But I can understand if u don't like watching analysis videos. They're a pretty large part of the fandom now, & i'm excited to see what the future is in store for the community. I'm not on the list? Why does nopony love me? 1 Check out my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qXAcUzrizEHvorGalU5jg?feature=watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applejock 358 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I do, and to be honest (no offense to the creators of said videos) but I really do not enjoy them. "Then why watch them stupid!" The answer, for me at least, is simple. I am an analist by nature. I see patterns in flat colors, and words written in numbers. I adore the over looking and research of things in general, which in turn leads to my ranty nature. But while MLP is no exception to this rule, I just..I don't know, it feels, "wrong". To put the ana-scope to an MLP episode. Maybe its the fact I have been a Pony fan since age 6 (gen1 bitchs!!). Maybe its because i was raised on an Apple Orchard and really got in touch with my inner Equestrian (google that before you make a joke, its a real term). I love the natuer of Horses and many wild creatures, Call me a furry if you will but something like MLPfim, is just so human and at the same time animal. I truely enjoy it. But that personalness aside, I must also say that this IS a childrens show, which is slowly being rewritten for the blooming adult fanbase. But this fanbase is of a current internet generation that just -Hates- EVERYTHING! We spend hours on youtube, laughing our rear ends off over some guy or gal going all out to make a film, book, cartoon, game look horrible. Why? Did it all start with the Angry Video Game nerd? Plinkett reviews? Or was it the death of AOL Roleplay chatrooms and the introduction of MMO games like World of warcraft which spurned the illusion of minds-eye fantasy into a drab pixeld world. Who really knows. But how do these things tie to the Ana-scopes of MLP videos? In truth, and in the end, EVERYTHING on the internet is tied to one vital factor. Attention. We post pictures of our annoying cats on facebook...for attention. We make videos with the sound of our voice cast over the playthrough of the newst video games, the script of which is almost 90% "Fuck" or "omg this games so bad"...for attention. We as humans need attention, and now with the internet we need to do even less effort, and application, to get it. To sum all this up and in short, and to return to MLP Ana-scopes. Yes I watch them, No i do not enjoy them. Sure i chuckle and laugh, but in truth every time I do I know another part of my soul is dieing with that laugh. Showing how modern society, my own life experiences and educations have slowly killed the sheer joy and imagination inside me. But, I wont stop watching such Directors such as Tommy Oliver....the Brony is a Rarity fanboy! How can I not support him!!!!! 2 ---> Here be Fabulous Mare! <--- There be Brony! ***Fear the Hater, for they are out to taint your Perfection. Buck the Troll, for he would seek to stop the Fabulous flavor. For you are Brony, coated in Pearl, maned in fine Mulberry, eyes of the sky, and flanks of Diamonds. Your life is for the Lady, all hail the Queen, for Rarity, your life, for her.*** -Applejock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverStarApple 849 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 Oh, sure, because I always spend upwards of ten minutes watching some else's youtube comments turned into a video. I can analyze a show myself, I don't need someone else's blog to tell me their opinions. However, it is sometimes interesting to see what others think. But, I prefer to make my own mind up first. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was akin to a slow death. If I must live as I did before then... -Lelouch, Code Geass - My NEW DeviantART: http://SilverStarApple.deviantart.com/Want to make money for being an AWESOME PONY? https://www.tsu.co/Epsilon725 My fanfic, starring Silver Star Apple: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/224996/the-shining-silver-star-of-the-apple-family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander_PonyShep 349 March 5, 2014 Author Share March 5, 2014 As an update, I've created another poll asking if you guys like or hate the analysis shows. To get the ball rolling, I chose "I hate analysis shows" in the poll, because analysis shows are just opinions, and opinions that destroy my enjoyment of the My Little Pony show, at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I feel like reviews should be impartial. They should state what is right and wrong with a product on a factual base, not an opinion base. An analysis or 'My Thoughts' type of video or piece is much more appropriate to start adding in your opinion. Look at the recently released game Thief. IGN scored it extremely low because the reviewer they assigned to it didn't like it personally whilst many other reviewers who looked at it based on fact and features (TotalBiscuit for example) gave it brilliant review. Opinions can very quickly taint other peoples minds. well first i pause to shill back on topic why yes Impartial is highly desirable. And in alot cases a complete pain in the ass. Digi has made the point (i tend to disagree) we're slaves to our perceptions, and objectivity is unobtainable. The point he did make i agree with is, if we were all objective perfectly every review would be boring and look the same. But what makes something impartial? How can you objectively say music is good? If a joke is funny? take friend ship is witch craft for example. I could go all voice of reason and say it's terrible (AND HAVE) and I could totally argue with valid points, something trying to be ironically bad doesn't mean it's good. Does that make me universally right? see what i'm saying? a negative and positive review can both be valid for the same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I'm not on the list? Why does nopony love me? I'll shill for you ! The above for mentioned gentleman has an endearing sense of humor, up dates like clock work, and is a snappy dresser. We all need to support our local yocals more often. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas 27,675 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 I usually do out of morbid curiosity but otherwise I don't really care about what they say. I feel that a lot of times they tend to completely miss the mark on episodes, take things too seriously or out of context, whine about the most trivial bullshit, or get upset about things that shouldn't even matter Honestly I think fans put way too much stock on Brony analysts. In the wise words of Hideki Kamiya: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 March 5, 2014 Share March 5, 2014 Have you ever considered there might be more than one mark to be hit per episode? Which is why many of the videos are different. I often find myself agreeing with alot of forlong's points, (which is why i'm subscribed to his work) but their not points I would necessarily would make. It's refreshing to see so many takes on the same subject matter. And trivial bull shit?we're talking about rainbow ponies my friend. Ponies if anything proves trivial and bull shit is epic ^^. I usually do out of morbid curiosity but otherwise I don't really care about what they say. I feel that a lot of times they tend to completely miss the mark on episodes, take things too seriously or out of context, whine about the most trivial bullshit, or get upset about things that shouldn't even matter Honestly I think fans put way too much stock on Brony analysts. In the wise words of Hideki Kamiya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind Chaser 4,768 March 7, 2014 Share March 7, 2014 I make it a point to watch Digibro and Tommy Oliver after every episode, I also like Brony Debates, Voice of Reason, Dr Wolf, Strebiskunk, TheMysteriousMrEnter, and Antony C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 March 7, 2014 Share March 7, 2014 I make it a point to watch Digibro and Tommy Oliver after every episode, I also like Brony Debates, Voice of Reason, Dr Wolf, Strebiskunk, TheMysteriousMrEnter, and Antony C. Getting Antony C.'s insight is like waiting for a solar eclipse.^^. i love it and all, it just doesn't happen often. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander_PonyShep 349 March 7, 2014 Author Share March 7, 2014 I make it a point to watch Digibro and Tommy Oliver after every episode, I also like Brony Debates, Voice of Reason, Dr Wolf, Strebiskunk, TheMysteriousMrEnter, and Antony C. I've stopped watching Strebiskunk's video reviews a long time ago, again for the same reasons I need to stop watching analysis videos altogether, namely that they could end up destroying any enjoyment I would have otherwise gotten from the show itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moved to Elsewhere 11,331 March 7, 2014 Share March 7, 2014 Getting Antony C.'s insight is like waiting for a solar eclipse.^^. i love it and all, it just doesn't happen often. That's why I don't watch his reviews. I mean he do recently post a review, on Too many Pinkie Pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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