Meghan McCarthy officially strikes down Sparity

[SBaby 660]

My favorite character as a kid was Mario, so I wouldn't say adults are inherently uninteresting or unrelatable to children. Imprecise or not, though, she does call them adults, so I'm going with that.

 

And that's perfectly fine.  If people want to consider them adults, there's nothing wrong with that.  The show hasn't taken an official position on it yet (and likely won't), so at this point all we really have is headcanon.

 

It's the same thing with (ugh) 'Sparity'.  Unless the show strikes it down once and for all, there will always be fans of it.

Edited April 27, 2014 by SBaby

[Shady Bubbles 429]

I'm glad it's nothing but a crush. Some of my favorite bits are when Spike goes gaga over Rarity. If they actually had a relationship that would ruin it. 

 

Plus it just wouldn't make sense. A dragon & a pony together? The square block doesn't go in the round hole does it?

[Dattebayo 2,850]

I'm glad it's nothing but a crush. Some of my favorite bits are when Spike goes gaga over Rarity. If they actually had a relationship that would ruin it.

 

Plus it just wouldn't make sense. A dragon & a pony together? The square block doesn't go in the round hole does it?

If you wanna get technical about it, there are actually such things as Dragon/horse hybrids in ye olde mythology, so it wouldn't be as far-fetched as you think.

[Forlong 1,726]

Bronies taking a quote from McCarthy out of context?  Where have I heard that before?

 

"He is a child!  She is an adult."  It doesn't matter what rules you try to impose on what is or isn't an adult, that's true regardless.  It is not a matter of chronology but maturity.  There is no nice way to say this: Rarity is to mature for Spike.  Argue all you want that Spike will mature in 10 years, it doesn't change the fact that is not going to happen during the course of the show.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Forlong

[ScarfaceOne 263]

 

 

RUN, FELLOW SHIP RATS

SWIM TO SAFETY

FOR TODAY, THE SPARITY SHIP WAS SUNK

 

THERE WERE NO SURVIVORS

 

*UPDATE*

 

Phew, confirmed hoax.

http://derpibooru.org/605054

 

So, there may be hope.

As I said, I never expect full-on romance, that'd be silly in a show like FIM (BUT GREAT).

Just little hints of mutual affection, just like they've been doing ever since Secret Of My Excess.

That is enough to support Sparity.

 

Let's start rebuilding that ship, friends.

We set sail in a fortnite.

 

Yarrrrr.

 

 

 

Oh, thank celestia. I thought that it was wrong for a baby to love an adult anyway. Spike is just a baby and that would be an example of.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,091]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm still holding out for Blueblood and Rarity.

[Forlong 1,726]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm still holding out for Blueblood and Rarity.

 

We all despise Blueblood and never want to see him again, let alone anywhere near Rarity.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,091]

Who's this we? Can't include me!

 

King Blueblood and Queen Rarity... *Sigh*

 

[Sir Wulfington 276]

Except they can, and they have meant different things in Equestria.  I do admire the somewhat circular logic here.  I brought up that in medieval times, 13-year-olds were considered adults (and still are in some countries), and you take that fact to mean that I'm somehow stretching beyond the point of rational.  I was going to say something funny about this, but I can't think of anything, so I'll just leave this part at that.

 

 

 

Alas, you are right about that.  Much like when Dimitria replaced Zordon in Power Rangers Turbo, we can indeed say 'Meghan ain't Lauren' (though the changeover wasn't nearly as bad as it was in Turbo).  However...

 

 

 

 

 

That's fine, but you still haven't answered my question (don't feel bad, nobody has).  Where in the show is anything regarding the end of 'Sparity' (again, I really hate that term) and the ages of the mane six officially stated?  As I said before, if it isn't in the show, it isn't canon (and I doubt the ages of the mane six will ever come up, for reasons that Dr. Mechano inadvertently mentioned below).  However, if it does end up in the show at some point, I will indeed believe it to be canon then.  I'm not that way.  If it happens in the show, I acknowledge it.  After all, Twilicorn happened, and I acknowledged it.

 

 

She also says 'it's imprecise' right in the same post and then starts talking about how they need to be relatable to younger kids.  How can they be relatable to younger kids if they're fully grown adults?  Answer:  They can't.

 

 

Also, I am sick of people using the word 'pedophilia.  It's just a boyhood crush.  Nothing's come of it.  Nothing will likely come of it.  Unless you actually think there is the slightest chance that a real ship between the two could happen, there is absolutely no value in using that word to describe it.  I mean, really.  Let's stop using that word.  It's disgusting, and it really contributes nothing to the discussion.

 

The point is that the writers themselves said it'd be pedophilia, they couldn't have been anymore blunt. And your perception on what's canon and what isn't isn't right, if I say something is canon to my fictional setting, than it is, even if I never reference it in the story itself. So unless they contradict themselves, than it's canon that Rarity is an adult and Spike's a child, and they will never be together for that reason. But now I'm repeating myself, so I'll just leave it at that. Accept it or don't accept it, I'm just stating the facts here.

 

 

Plus it just wouldn't make sense. A dragon & a pony together? The square block doesn't go in the round hole does it?

 

[Truffles 2,033]

 

 

The point is that the writers themselves said it'd be pedophilia, they couldn't have been anymore blunt.

 

Oh come now, you're twisting Amy Keating Rogers' words. I posted the transcript earlier in this thread and the exact words were, "It's not appropriate." There is a big jump between a relationship being inappropriate and Rarity being a full-on pedophile. I've already stated my case why that term is horribly inaccurate when describing Rarity so feel free to go back up and re-read it if you need to see why again.

[SBaby 660]

The point is that the writers themselves said it'd be pedophilia, they couldn't have been anymore blunt.

 

First, show me exactly where they used that specific word.  Second, it still doesn't make it an appropriate word, especially since nothing has ever happened in the show to make it such (again, still haven't answered my question).  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the writers aren't the paragons of literary mastery that you seem to believe them to be.  There have been missteps in the past with the show.  Meghan making that remark about Spike and Rarity was simply one example of such missteps.  And at the end of the day, it was only an opinion.  And it will stay an opinion unless there is an episode in the show that specifically addresses it. 

 

But you know why they'll likely never address it?  Because the only way the show could possibly end 'Sparity' in any official irrefutable way is if Rarity canonically got a boyfriend and established a long term relationship with him.  If they do it in any other way, it would again be like early Xenosaga, where Shion shows no interest in Allen, and people that played that trilogy know what the end result of that was. 

 

But then again, maybe Meghan is planning on Rarity getting a boyfriend.  Maybe that is why she said what she said.  After all, she is the main writer for the show now, so she would clearly know what's really going on behind the scenes.  So that actually makes a lot of sense.  Come to think of it, that would be interesting to see.  Spike loses it because Rarity gets a boyfriend, and becomes jealous, but by the end of the episode, he learns to support her decision and the two stay friends.  That would be a direct parallel to some of the hardcore Rarity fans in that situation.

 

 

 

And your perception on what's canon and what isn't isn't right, if I say something is canon to my fictional setting, than it is, even if I never reference it in the story itself. So unless they contradict themselves, than it's canon that Rarity is an adult and Spike's a child, and they will never be together for that reason. But now I'm repeating myself, so I'll just leave it at that. Accept it or don't accept it, I'm just stating the facts here.

 

 

By that logic, 'Sparity' would still be canon if people envision it to be so.

Edited April 27, 2014 by SBaby

[Genepool 224]

Meh, I wouldn't mind if Spike and Rarity developed into a couple.  The writers could certainly make it work as Spike becomes/ages into an adult, referencing the growth spirt from Spike's episode.  In the end though, Spike may stay the same age he is right now.  He'll develope a crush on Sweetie Belle, and then move on to other ponies as ages alongside Twilight with Twilight becoming the immortal she's destined to be.

[Sir Wulfington 276]

Oh come now, you're twisting Amy Keating Rogers' words. I posted the transcript earlier in this thread and the exact words were, "It's not appropriate." There is a big jump between a relationship being inappropriate and Rarity being a full-on pedophile. I've already stated my case why that term is horribly inaccurate when describing Rarity so feel free to go back up and re-read it if you need to see why again.

The writers said that due to the fact that Rarity is an adult and Spike is a child, that their relationship becoming romantic would be innapropriate. There is literally nothing else they could've meant by that other than that it'd be pedophilia. The admission that one's a grown up and the other's a kid alone makes it such. I won't even humor the possibility that you or anyone else honeslty, deep down believe it to mean something else. I'm intelligent enough to see that what you're really trying to do is intentionally misinterpret their words so that you can still hold onto the possibility of this ship ever becoming canon. I am not a fool, do not take me for one.

 

When reality becomes something you dislike, the appropriate response is not denial, but acceptance. If you're unwilling to do that, so be it, but no matter how much you try, the truth is still the truth. 

First, show me exactly where they used that specific word.  Second, it still doesn't make it an appropriate word, especially since nothing has ever happened in the show to make it such (again, still haven't answered my question).  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the writers aren't the paragons of literary mastery that you seem to believe them to be.  There have been missteps in the past with the show.  Meghan making that remark about Spike and Rarity was simply one example of such missteps.  And at the end of the day, it was only an opinion.  And it will stay an opinion unless there is an episode in the show that specifically addresses it. 

 

But you know why they'll likely never address it?  Because the only way the show could possibly end 'Sparity' in any official irrefutable way is if Rarity canonically got a boyfriend and established a long term relationship with him.  If they do it in any other way, it would again be like early Xenosaga, where Shion shows no interest in Allen, and people that played that trilogy know what the end result of that was. 

 

But then again, maybe Meghan is planning on Rarity getting a boyfriend.  Maybe that is why she said what she said.  After all, she is the main writer for the show now, so she would clearly know what's really going on behind the scenes.  So that actually makes a lot of sense.  Come to think of it, that would be interesting to see.  Spike loses it because Rarity gets a boyfriend, and becomes jealous, but by the end of the episode, he learns to support her decision and the two stay friends.  That would be a direct parallel to some of the hardcore Rarity fans in that situation.

 

 

 

 

By that logic, 'Sparity' would still be canon if people envision it to be so.

See my response to Truffle, if that's not enough to get you to see reason, than I give up. And no, that does not mean you've won, it just means that you've made it clear that you reject logic in order to retain a false sense of rightness, and as such, arguing with you is completely and utterly pointless.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Sir Wulfington

[ScarfaceOne 263]

Yes but spike is just a baby. And rarity is an adult. Why would they be in love with each other it is illegal for people to love children because it is an example of a certain crime.

[ponyvangelist 732]

Poor Spike, Nopony Loves Him!


Whatever shall he do?

...

(I know, I know, the premise of this thread is a hoax. Just sayin')

[Tholos 145]

With the nature of FiM as a show, it's likely that this is still an accurate description of how things will likely go down, even if not stated explicitly. It isn't like they can just put a full on romance in there.

 

Besides, half the fun of shipping is that it isn't official, no?

[Truffles 2,033]

The writers said that due to the fact that Rarity is an adult and Spike is a child, that their relationship becoming romantic would be innapropriate. There is literally nothing else they could've meant by that other than that it'd be pedophilia. The admission that one's a grown up and the other's a kid alone makes it such. I won't even humor the possibility that you or anyone else honeslty, deep down believe it to mean something else. I'm intelligent enough to see that what you're really trying to do is intentionally misinterpret their words so that you can still hold onto the possibility of this ship ever becoming canon. I am not a fool, do not take me for one.

 

I merely pointed out your words were inaccurate, nothing more. You are still wrong about "inappropriate" being the same as "pedophillia"; all you did was argue your opinion that there is "literally nothing else they could've meant". I'll say it again (which you conveniently ignored), I already proved my point earlier in the thread while any scenes of Rarity being close to Spike might be inappropriate, it doesn't make her a pedo. And please, do not imply you can read my thoughts or any other forum member's thoughts. That's bogus.

 

I've already agreed with you that 1) Sparity is on the decline and Spike is likely getting friendzoned 2) It could come back at any time if the writers change their mind, and 3) you're right there is no point in arguing anymore because clearly you are not moving in opinion either so we should simply leave it at that.

 

I don't even know why I got pulled back into this thread; I guess having Rarity insulted bugs me, which it shouldn't since she's a fictional character, albeit is wonderful one....

[Sir Wulfington 276]

I merely pointed out your words were inaccurate, nothing more. You are still wrong about "inappropriate" being the same as "pedophillia"; all you did was argue your opinion that there is "literally nothing else they could've meant". I'll say it again (which you conveniently ignored), I already proved my point earlier in the thread while any scenes of Rarity being close to Spike might be inappropriate, it doesn't make her a pedo. And please, do not imply you can read my thoughts or any other forum member's thoughts. That's bogus.

 

I've already agreed with you that 1) Sparity is on the decline and Spike is likely getting friendzoned 2) It could come back at any time if the writers change their mind, and 3) you're right there is no point in arguing anymore because clearly you are not moving in opinion either so we should simply leave it at that.

 

I don't even know why I got pulled back into this thread; I guess having Rarity insulted bugs me, which it shouldn't since she's a fictional character, albeit is wonderful one....

 

I wasn't insulting her, I was saying she'd be a pedophile for getting romantically involved with Spike. Anyway, I apologize I came off as a rude, that one part of my post telling you to not take me for a fool sounds too harsh now that I think about it. Ultimately, I don't see either of us changing our minds, so yes, let's just agree to disagree.

 

I will say that I'd prefer they handle the ship sinking canonically with him acknowledging that Rarity doesn't feel the same way about him and moving on, rather than just sweeping it under the rug. That would be a satisfying conclusion to the ship.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Sir Wulfington

[LED Dasher 228]

I wouldn't mind if they stop showing Spike having a crush on Rarity. I know it was there since the first episode, but it's time to move on. Relationships between characters change in many shows, and MLP is no exception.

[SBaby 660]

And no, that does not mean you've won, it just means that you've made it clear that you reject logic in order to retain a false sense of rightness, and as such, arguing with you is completely and utterly pointless.

 

Except you haven't used any kind of logic, other than throwing the p-word around, which isn't even relevant because nothing like that has happened in the show.  Don't get me wrong, you're not the only one who's done this.  Alot of people have been using that word, even though there is no reason to.

 

The problem here is, you've done the opposite with logic.  You've taken the historical and real-world facts that I've used and called them illogical, even though they have happened and still do.  I'm not rejecting logic, but you're not presenting any that I could reject.

 

 

 

I will say that I'd prefer they handle the ship sinking canonically with him acknowledging that Rarity doesn't feel the same way about him and moving on, rather than just sweeping it under the rug. That would be a satisfying conclusion to the ship.

 

 

Well, I agree here.  If they're going to do it, let them do it in the show.  Until they do, it can't be considered canon.

Edited April 28, 2014 by SBaby

[Forlong 1,726]

I wouldn't mind if they stop showing Spike having a crush on Rarity. I know it was there since the first episode, but it's time to move on. Relationships between characters change in many shows, and MLP is no exception.

I know.  Rarity has already gotten over two crushes now.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,091]

If they ever play out Spike's crush to its natural conclusion, I hope they show him feeling bad since Rarity is too old for him...

 

But then quickly falling in love with Sweetie Belle and the two of them hook up and take the world by storm.

 

Come on, it's the best way to handle this situation when it surely comes to a head.

[Pastel 7,630]

If they ever play out Spike's crush to its natural conclusion, I hope they show him feeling bad since Rarity is too old for him...

 

But then quickly falling in love with Sweetie Belle and the two of them hook up and take the world by storm.

 

Come on, it's the best way to handle this situation when it surely comes to a head.

No, no more crush please. One of the reasons I like the show is that there aren't many love stories.

[Ianpiersonjdavis 512]

No, no more crush please. One of the reasons I like the show is that there aren't many love stories.

 

Yeah, I have to agree with that.

 

I think I heard somewhere that they were going to only involve full blown romances on secondary/minor/background characters (like Shining and Cadance), which is what I hope they do so not to devolve into 'Shipping is Magic' and take away the humor and adventure the series has had to offer for so long.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,091]

To be fair, peeps, I was simply joking this entire topic.

 

Except about Blueblood and Rarity, that's true love right there.