CastletonSnob 3,074 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 How would the show be different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EquestriaGuy 1,074 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 There would yet to be discernible pay off for learning the value of friendship from 5 ponies who exemplify and teach it. There would be no valuable lesson about meritocracy for the audience of little girls who watch the show. The show also might have become stale if it was trapped telling small town stories about friendship for more than 3 seasons. While that may have been a boon in the beginning, that formula would have stagnated the show once it continued for too long. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 Next to no difference whatsoever. Every single episode would exist as is with minimal changes, premieres and finales included. There would yet to be discernible pay off for learning the value of friendship from 5 ponies who exemplify and teach it. There would be no valuable lesson about meritocracy for the audience of little girls who watch the show. The show also might have become stale if it was trapped telling small town stories about friendship for more than 3 seasons. While that may have been a boon in the beginning, that formula would have stagnated the show once it continued for too long. To be fair, this is all still true for over 5/6 of the cast, and prevailing opinion is that they're better off for it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 If it never happened the season 3 finale probably would have been a bit better though there wouldn't have been much of a difference aside from that with the exception of the season 4 premier and finale. Aside from premiers,finales and the episode Twilight Time there just hasn't been that much of a mention of Twilights ascension. With season 4 having an over arching season wide story arc for the first time in the series season 5 could very well be a different story. Twilight's ascension may have been handled poorly and happened a tad soon but it does present some opportunities for world building and adventure themed stories. 5 Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvadel 1,393 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 Twilight technically could have been made archmage and it would have had the same impact, other than her falling in love with her wings over time. She would REALLY MISS THEM if she were to lose them now. 1 Silvadel, the Pegasus of Insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmasy Britty 2,553 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 huh good question. i guess she would never have become a princess and all the added responsibility designed for her in season 4 never would have happened she would probably the same as before with her library tree too signature by Pucksterv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleverclover 1,526 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 If Twilight never became an alicorn, I would most likely still like her as a character. There probably wouldn't be as much of a desire to glorify her over the mane five, and thus they would all still be on the same level development-wise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastel 7,630 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 (edited) Next to no difference whatsoever. Every single episode would exist as is with minimal changes, premieres and finales included.This. There would be a few differences (especially in the season 4 premiere/finale), but the show would remain the same overall. This might not be true anymore after season 5 starts though. Edited February 22, 2015 by Blobulle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Strife 928 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 The season four finale would have been impossible, as would have Twilight's role in some stages of certain episodes. Other than that, because the princesshood hasn't had a full payoff for it yet, there's no definitive answer for that. Season Four's episodes? Probably otherwise relatively unchanged, but we have no idea if season five will be any different due to her status. (Also the earlier comment about the 'need to glorify her' - need I remind you that Twilight has always been the main character and in fact, she got much more focus to the point it was obnoxious in season one than in season four.) AVATAR | SIGNATURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticShine 529 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 We wouldn't have the whole Twilicorn controversy. In reality I don't think that much would be different, aside from a few story arcs and the like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fiery Brony 32 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 Twilight becoming a princess was similar to Discord being reformed. It was a bad decision ultimately, but they executed it brilliantly enough that it get's a thumbs up from me. I think the show would be a little simpler, maybe a little more innocent. Although I did really like Princess Twilight Sparkle and the beginning of EQG, and I have to say that these 2 things really proved that this decision was based on wanting this character to grow and change. That's great from my eyes, and it also meant that it was an underlying theme for S4 and more seasons to come. If she had stayed unicorn, I don't think it would be as jointed and flowing as season 4 was with it's themes. Overall, I think they've executed it so well that I wouldn't change it if I could. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobana 100 February 22, 2015 Share February 22, 2015 The episode "Testing, Testing, 1, 2, 3" would have a very different conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Pathfinder 16,161 February 23, 2015 Share February 23, 2015 Well, while there probably would be THAT much of a difference, alicorn Twilight did have a few major roles to play in some episodes. "Princess Twilight Sparkle," "Testing, Testing, 1 2 3," and "Twilight's Kingdom" are just examples of this. Had she been just a unicorn, the S4 premier & Testing would likely be very different, and the finale wouldn't have worked period. Pathfinder I Sojourner I Corsair | Zu'hra I Autumn | Scarlet Willow | Gypsy | Silverthorn | Crystal Whisper | Radiant Historia | And many other OCs~ Matching signatures with mah Bestie MOONLIGHT <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctofire 227 February 23, 2015 Share February 23, 2015 I think the show maybe be a bit more innocent. Although the episodes she's been in prove how well this has been executed, and as she's grown as a character since the first episode a lot. I have a similar opinion on this as I do to Discord's reformation: bad decision in concept but they made it work really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsIsNotAlone 3,695 February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 If Twilight never became an alicorn... *I would still relate to Twilight as a character with no conflicting emotions whatsoever. *Season 3 would be less controversial overall. (But still remembered as weaker than 1 or 2, because the letter-writing theme was dropped with no explanation and the show lost some of that old consistency and just wandered.) *Season 4 would not have changed much, except that the obvious "why did this happen again" question wouldn't be hanging over most of the episodes. Not even the finale would have to be all THAT different, because: (1) It's much more believable that Tirek would not know about Twilight Sparkle the unicorn, rather than Twilight Sparkle the alicorn princess who had a highly publicized coronation. So that particular plot element would actually work better. (2) It's not inconceivable that 3 alicorns could simply transfer their magic to a highly talented unicorn or at least allow her to channel it from a distance. (3) Twilight could still fight DBZ-style without flying. (4), it was clearly the magic of friendship in the chest going through the Elements of Harmony in the Tree that enabled the Mane 6 to defeat Tirek, not the alicorn magic he ate for lunch. 2 "Human beings fascinate me Being just the way they are..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbaTross 1,586 February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Twilight becoming a princess was similar to Discord being reformed. It was a bad decision ultimately, but they executed it brilliantly enough that it get's a thumbs up from me. I think the show would be a little simpler, maybe a little more innocent. Although I did really like Princess Twilight Sparkle and the beginning of EQG, and I have to say that these 2 things really proved that this decision was based on wanting this character to grow and change. That's great from my eyes, and it also meant that it was an underlying theme for S4 and more seasons to come. If she had stayed unicorn, I don't think it would be as jointed and flowing as season 4 was with it's themes. Overall, I think they've executed it so well that I wouldn't change it if I could. I couldn't have put it better myself. They were bad ideas initially IMHO, but when season 4 came around the writers salvaged them and turned them into a positive for the show. Obviously if Twilicorn hadn't happened the show would have gone in a different direction, but that doesn't mean it would have been a bad direction. Seasons 1 and 2 were quite solid, and the season 3 intro, while not without its problems, worked without Twilight having wings. I'm sure season 4 would have still been great, but we may have had different episodes in some cases than the ones we got. Sure, we wouldn't have gotten Ponyball Z, but there are other solid intros and finales in previous seasons. Obviously the direction in season 5 has been fueled by events that happened before, which can be traced back to the season 3 finale. Personally, I think the show would still be just fine either way, but since growing wings and becoming a princess is the direction the writers took her in, I'm content with what we have gotten in terms of episodes and story arcs and I look forward to seeing what happens in season 5. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooona 29 February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 I don't think it would have affected the show much at all. The way I see it, the only thing that really changed when Twilight became an alicorn was her new elevated position as princess, and even that was rarely acknowledged outside of the season 4 premier and finale. Tbh, I didn't see much point in Twilight getting wings, since things more or less went back to normal afterwards. 4 Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 Sure, we wouldn't have gotten Ponyball Z... Actually hold on, why not? It's not like Tirek could fly in that scene, so would there even have been a big difference is Twilight couldn't either? And that's assuming she couldn't just use magic to fly given the circumstances. And don't say "Oh it had to be alicorn magic", that was written as an ad hoc excuse that could just as easily have been given to Twilight without her new ascended race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duidamasterXD 9,627 February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 On the one hand, Twilight Time, Trade Ya, Princess Twilight Sparkle, and the first Equestria Girls movie all get rewritten significantly. And the giant castle of friendship doesn't become a thing, probably. Sarcastic sadface On the other hand, the ending of Testing Testing 1, 2, 3 would also need significant changing. And Celestia's Ballad might not have been sung, though I suppose it could've just been a "Congrats on fixing your own problems Twily" song Actual sadface I don't really buy that things would've become stale without the transformation, especially considering how few episodes it has directly impacted. Sure, next season is supposed to be all travel-y and adventure-y, but I don't know if Twilight needs to be an alicorn to do that. Seems like it'll just involve beating up bad guys and solving people's problems, and the Mane Six have been doing that since the show began. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob 3,074 February 27, 2015 Author Share February 27, 2015 Would the series be better if she lost her wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcheoPony 76 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 Uh...the definition of what an alicorn exactly is wouldn't be as convoluted and messed up as it is now? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 Would the series be better if she lost her wings? No offense, but that's kind of a nonsense question. As with how she got the wings in the first place, how good it is would depend entirely on the execution. There are great and terrible ways for any number of things to happen. But personally, I don't think any improvement could be made by her losing her wings that couldn't be made without her losing them. The wings are just a symptom, not the disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLPFanatic34 3,234 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 The show wouldn't be that much different, and I'd still adore Twilight as a character regardless of her being a princess or being a regular old unicorn. I do enjoy her as a princess though mainly because she in some ways acts like herself and doesn't come off as a typical Disney princess, she's more like Anna from Frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Letter 1,832 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 It's not inconceivable that 3 alicorns could simply transfer their magic to a highly talented unicorn or at least allow her to channel it from a distance. Even if a mere unicorn could somehow not be destroyed by having the powers of three Alicorns pushed into her body, she wouldn't be able to use it. I assume it's why they call it Alicorn magic and not just...magic. Silver Letter!!! Silver Letter's MLP collection Have: 946 https://data.mlpmerch.com/checklist/180/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 Even if a mere unicorn could somehow not be destroyed by having the powers of three Alicorns pushed into her body, she wouldn't be able to use it. I assume it's why they call it Alicorn magic and not just...magic. Twilight used alicorn magic as a unicorn in The Crystal Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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