Roughshod 721 February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 Never tried one and I don't intend to. No offence, but lung cancer just doesn't appeal to me. The truth is always rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_active 732 February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 Nah, b. Real cuban cigars. xD The ones they smoke in Scarface. They're probably not my thing, though they give you the look of some gangster/badass dude Ask me something: https://mlpforums.com/topic/116567-ask-ravelowif-you-want-to-3/page-2 <3 :* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 They're probably not my thing, though they give you the look of some gangster/badass dude Or rich. Real deal cuban cigars are quite expensive, something like 500$ for a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlitterFlutter 1,601 February 27, 2015 Author Share February 27, 2015 Never tried one and I don't intend to. No offence, but lung cancer just doesn't appeal to me. lung-cancer.jpg Unlikely, considering you don't inhale a cigar. Credit to Kiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitalSpark 1,830 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 Unlikely, considering you don't inhale a cigar. Quite. It's mouth cancer you should be more concerned about. Yes, that is a thing. ~VitalSpark~ [fimfiction] [deviantart] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughshod 721 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 Unlikely, considering you don't inhale a cigar. Most cigar smokers don't but some do. In any case there are still a plethora of cancer related illnesses related to the activity. From page 4 ad 5 of the 2014 'Cigar Smoking Study' by the American Cancer Society: "What kinds of illness and death are caused by smoking cigars? Regular cigar smoking increases your risk for many cancers, including: • Lung • Lip • Oral cavity (tongue, mouth, and/or throat) • Esophagus (the tube connecting the mouth to the stomach) • Larynx (voice box) Studies have shown that regular cigar smokers are 4 to 10 times more likely to die from cancers of the mouth, larynx, and esophagus than non-smokers. For those who inhale, cigar smoking appears to be linked to death from cancer of the pancreas and bladder, too. How you smoke and how much you smoke are both important. Cigar smokers may spend an hour smoking one large cigar that can contain as much tobacco as a pack of cigarettes. Smoking more cigars each day or inhaling cigar smoke leads to more exposure and higher risks. The health risks linked to occasional cigar smoking (less than daily) are less clear." And also more on inhaling from the same article and page: "Does inhaling affect the risk of cancer? Almost all cigarette smokers inhale, but in the past most cigar smokers typically did not. This could be because cigar smoke tends to irritate the eyes, nose, throat, and breathing passages. A new trend among cigar companies is to change the fermenting process to make cigar smoke easier to inhale. This curing and fermenting process enhances the flavor but also increases the levels of harmful ingredients. Many of the smaller cigarettelike cigars have filters, which also makes them easier to inhale. In those who don’t inhale, tobacco smoke does not reach the lungs in the same amounts as it does in cigarette smokers. As a result, the risk of death from lung cancer for cigar smokers who don’t inhale is not as high as it is for cigarette smokers. Still, it is many times higher than the risk for non-smokers. Keep in mind that even cigar smokers who don’t inhale are still breathing in large amounts of smoke that comes from their mouths and the lit end of the cigar. Cigars that are about the size of cigarettes are changing the way cigars are smoked and how “cigar” is defined. Researchers have found that when surveying people about cigar use, the use of brand examples helps improve accuracy of the estimates. Some smokers think of smaller cigars as cigarettes, and we know that they tend to smoke them the same way. The health outcomes of this remain to be seen. But we do have some data because cigar smokers who have smoked cigarettes are more likely to inhale. According to an American Cancer Society study, cigar smokers who inhale have an 11 times greater risk of death from lung cancer than non-smokers. This study also found that cigar smokers who inhale are at increased risk for other types of cancer, too. Compared to non-smokers, cigar smokers who inhale deeply: • Are 7 times more likely to die from tongue, mouth, and/or throat (oral) cancer • Are 39 times more likely to die from cancer of the voice box (larynx) • Face about 3 times the risk of death from cancer of the pancreas • Face about 4 times the risk of death from bladder cancer" http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/cid/documents/webcontent/002965-pdf.pdf The truth is always rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlitterFlutter 1,601 February 27, 2015 Author Share February 27, 2015 Quite. It's mouth cancer you should be more concerned about. Yes, that is a thing. very true, though cigars being 100% natural and not having all them chemicals and crap they put in cigarettes, the risk is much lower. I understand their is still a risk though. Most cigar smokers don't but some do. In any case there are still a plethora of cancer related illnesses related to the activity. From page 4 ad 5 of the 2014 'Cigar Smoking Study' by the American Cancer Society: "What kinds of illness and death are caused by smoking cigars? Regular cigar smoking increases your risk for many cancers, including: • Lung • Lip • Oral cavity (tongue, mouth, and/or throat) • Esophagus (the tube connecting the mouth to the stomach) • Larynx (voice box) Studies have shown that regular cigar smokers are 4 to 10 times more likely to die from cancers of the mouth, larynx, and esophagus than non-smokers. For those who inhale, cigar smoking appears to be linked to death from cancer of the pancreas and bladder, too. How you smoke and how much you smoke are both important. Cigar smokers may spend an hour smoking one large cigar that can contain as much tobacco as a pack of cigarettes. Smoking more cigars each day or inhaling cigar smoke leads to more exposure and higher risks. The health risks linked to occasional cigar smoking (less than daily) are less clear." And also more on inhaling from the same article and page: "Does inhaling affect the risk of cancer? Almost all cigarette smokers inhale, but in the past most cigar smokers typically did not. This could be because cigar smoke tends to irritate the eyes, nose, throat, and breathing passages. A new trend among cigar companies is to change the fermenting process to make cigar smoke easier to inhale. This curing and fermenting process enhances the flavor but also increases the levels of harmful ingredients. Many of the smaller cigarettelike cigars have filters, which also makes them easier to inhale. In those who don’t inhale, tobacco smoke does not reach the lungs in the same amounts as it does in cigarette smokers. As a result, the risk of death from lung cancer for cigar smokers who don’t inhale is not as high as it is for cigarette smokers. Still, it is many times higher than the risk for non-smokers. Keep in mind that even cigar smokers who don’t inhale are still breathing in large amounts of smoke that comes from their mouths and the lit end of the cigar. Cigars that are about the size of cigarettes are changing the way cigars are smoked and how “cigar” is defined. Researchers have found that when surveying people about cigar use, the use of brand examples helps improve accuracy of the estimates. Some smokers think of smaller cigars as cigarettes, and we know that they tend to smoke them the same way. The health outcomes of this remain to be seen. But we do have some data because cigar smokers who have smoked cigarettes are more likely to inhale. According to an American Cancer Society study, cigar smokers who inhale have an 11 times greater risk of death from lung cancer than non-smokers. This study also found that cigar smokers who inhale are at increased risk for other types of cancer, too. Compared to non-smokers, cigar smokers who inhale deeply: • Are 7 times more likely to die from tongue, mouth, and/or throat (oral) cancer • Are 39 times more likely to die from cancer of the voice box (larynx) • Face about 3 times the risk of death from cancer of the pancreas • Face about 4 times the risk of death from bladder cancer" http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/cid/documents/webcontent/002965-pdf.pdf Read the OP I am only taking about quality hand rolled long leaf cigars, not some cheep gas station thing, they is just a glorified flavored cigarette. Also if you do in-hail a cigar you are an idiot anyway. Credit to Kiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 My Dad has one on special occasions. I might try one, one day. My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapitan zur See Hans (Daz) 883 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 Eeyup, I absolutely love(d) them, the smell and the taste, it is just so bitter and relaxing to me. Though rarely have I had a good one, usually only on vacations were the times I did, though I don't see myself having too many more having giving up smoking in all forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocus Pocus 636 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 (edited) ooooh, boy.... heckuva story about cigars My dad really likes cigars, so he wanted to treat me with my first one, which was definitely 100% legal in my country and totally not a Cuban Anyway, so he went on and on about the culture of smoking cigars and forgot to mention the actual important stuff... like the effects of a strong cigar will still be increasing (not remaining steady) over half an hour after you've stopped smoking... 10 minutes later I was too dizzy to stand 20 minutes later, I had to lay my head down 30 minute later I was watching as my dinner flew back out of my mouth and into the toilet while feeling like death... Buuuut that hasn't necessarily turned me off of cigars, you bet I'll be trying them again! I just won't be making the same mistake twice. As for my opinion on health, sure smoking is bad for you, but so are twinkies! The point is a good cigar every now and then isn't gonna hurt you, and certainly won't addict you so long as you take it in moderation Edited February 27, 2015 by Hocus Pocus ~Hocus Pocus Ya weni mareh mirekyarahireJuri yu mirekerason Kire hyari yoriherahe nyuraheraNunnyura unera yurawera nihmerani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlitterFlutter 1,601 February 27, 2015 Author Share February 27, 2015 ooooh, boy.... heckuva story about cigars My dad really likes cigars, so he wanted to treat me with my first one, which was definitely 100% legal and totally not a Cuban Anyway, so he went on and on about the culture of smoking cigars and forgot to mention the actual important stuff... like the effects of a strong cigar will still be increasing (not remaining steady) over half an hour after you've stopped smoking... 10 minutes later I was too dizzy to stand 20 minutes later, I had to lay my head down 30 minute later I was watching as my dinner flew back out of my mouth and into the toilet while feeling like death... Buuuut that hasn't necessarily turned me off of cigars, you bet I'll be trying them again! I just won't be making the same mistake twice. As for my opinion on health, sure smoking is bad for you, but so are twinkies! The point is a good cigar every now and then isn't gonna hurt you, and certainly won't addict you so long as you take it in moderation Ha yes, Sugar helps a ton for that BTW. I remember my first was a similar experience, I go in the shop and get the most expensive one (which was also the strongest) in about 15 minuets I was running out of that lounge HAHA man those where some good times. 1 Credit to Kiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneComrade 1,092 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 My dad went to a ball game with his coworkers once and their team won so they got cigars. And I mean the legit cigars. He only accepted it because he didn't want to be rude, and it sat on the floor of our car for about a month 'cause nobody cared about it. So, considering my family's attitude towards them, I couldn't care less about cigars (so long as I'm not getting cancer from some second-hand smoke). href="/monthly_02_2014/post-8308-0-69609200-1393191794.png"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJLeeTeam 914 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 I never smoked any cigars but from what I smell, it smells nasty and smoking can be dangerous to your health. My blog post on Starting Fresh with MLP:FiM: https://mlpforums.com/blog/2076/entry-16988-im-starting-fresh-with-mlp-fim/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Denim&Venöm 21,831 February 27, 2015 Subscriber Share February 27, 2015 Never tried them. Never will. I value my health too much to ever try. It's part of my personal creed to not get addicted to harmful substances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsy 193 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 (edited) All of my closed ones smoke cigarettes, but I will make a difference and I won't try those small cylinders of death. Cigarettes are very unhealthy (which is ironic because weed is absolutely illegal in my country, even if it is healthier). They put some weird chemicals in this stuff. They are also really addictive, even more than most drugs and let's not mention how expensive they are. I recommend to anyone reading this to listen to what I just typed. Cigarettes will steal your health and money. Edited February 27, 2015 by DifferentStereotype KEEP CALM AND EAT CUPCAKES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroSparks 232 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 Smoking is bad, mmkay kids Do you buy DC Comics or Marvel Comics? Marvel, with the occasional Flash trade When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree next to the river of truth, and tell the whole world"No, you move." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlitterFlutter 1,601 February 27, 2015 Author Share February 27, 2015 All of my closed ones smoke cigarettes, but I will make a difference and I won't try those small cylinders of death. Cigarettes are very unhealthy (which is ironic because weed is absolutely illegal in my country, even if it is healthier). They put some weird chemicals in this stuff. They are also really addictive, even more than most drugs and let's not mention how expensive they are. I recommend to anyone reading this to listen to what I just typed. Cigarettes will steal your health and money. Please read the OP we are talking about premium cigars, 100% tabaco, no chemicals or anything in them. Credit to Kiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat_Blazeclaws 73 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 I've never tried them and most likely wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscordLordOfChaos 15 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 The important difference as many people have stated is the fact that you don't / shouldn't inhale cigar smoke and that they don't have those chemicals in them. I honestly smoke one or two a year and keep it to that due to the health risks. Get nice ones and use them as a treat. But don't condemn others just because you don't care for the habit! Not all cigar smokers are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henny Penny Benny 936 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 I like the flavor, but they're a whole lot more expensive than pipes, and my body doesn't tend to handle cigars very well, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsy 193 February 27, 2015 Share February 27, 2015 Please read the OP we are talking about premium cigars, 100% tabaco, no chemicals or anything in them. Cigarettes and cigars. I haven't really used those words much, so I confuse them. I don't know much for the cigars, so I will stay neutral to avoid even more awkwardness. KEEP CALM AND EAT CUPCAKES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlitterFlutter 1,601 February 27, 2015 Author Share February 27, 2015 Cigarettes and cigars. I haven't really used those words much, so I confuse them. I don't know much for the cigars, so I will stay neutral to avoid even more awkwardness. Here is the difference just in case you care The tobacco in cigars is aged for approximately a year and then fermented through a process that takes another several months. This helps give the cigar a unique smell and flavor, especially when compared to cigarettes. Also, most cigars do not have filters, another difference between a cigar and a cigarette.( this is because they dont have a ton of crap in them, like a cigarette.) (paraphrased from wise geek) 1 Credit to Kiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCS 7,537 March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 They will fuck you up just like any other kind of drug will. I'm not going to judge you if you use it, just please be aware of the consequences and don't fucking do it in public around people who made the choice to avoid such things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,307 March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 "Nice" cigar. How nice is COPD? Or lung cancer? Smokers smoke because they're addicted. They crave it. Anyone who hasn't smoked can still discern how disgusting and noxious the resulting smoke from cigars or cigarettes is. The addiction fools the brain of the addict, and the addict comes to perceive the experience as enjoyable. 1 "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernia 692 March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 I think cigars look cool, and I think they're nice if you want to look a little more sophisticated, but they are very unhealthy and I'll never try them. Signature by Kyoshi Hymenoptera is the most superior order of insects. | I'm the best Street Fighter player ever... in my hometown. Rosalina's #1 fanboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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