general media Who can beat Battler Ushiromiya?

[RAGESTAR 479]

I propose a challenge!! Similar to a previous thread I made back in December, I challenge anyone who reads this, to name a fictional character who can beat my own. Who can beat Battler Ushiromiya, the Golden Endless Scorcerer?

 

 

Rules: no omnipotent/nigh omnipotent characters, other than that, you may use any character in fiction. Give reasons as to why your character would win. You may name up to 5 characters. Oh, and you cannot use Battler himself, or characters from his own verse. Just some friendly advice, by the way, I suggest that, if you wish to have any chance at all of beating him, you should name very, very heavy hitters in fiction.

 

Bring it on. :3

Here's a theme for the battle: 

 

Anyone? Come on, you know you want to!!

Edited March 24, 2015 by Battler Ushiromiya

[SilverComet 170]

This would be easy.

 

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

Reasons: Battler was modeled after the same kind of archetype of arbitrary skeptic against convoluted mysteries involving the use of supernatural methods in standard investigations. Phoenix Wright is also a lawyer.

 

If you try to take account of any kind of magical powers, then I will add his assistant from Turnabout Storm:

Twilight Sparkle: Element of Magic

Edited March 24, 2015 by SilverComet

[RAGESTAR 479]

This would be easy.

 

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

 

If you try to take account of any kind of magical powers, then I will add his assistant from Turnabout Storm:

Twilight Sparkle: Element of Magic

Uh...Phoenix is completely human, he would die. And Twilight, while awesome, would share the same fate. Are you aware of what Battler can do? If not, I can list some of his info and powers.

[SilverComet 170]

Updated my previous post.

 

Uh...Phoenix is completely human, he would die. And Twilight, while awesome, would share the same fate. Are you aware of what Battler can do? If not, I can list some of his info and powers.

 

I only watched the anime and the animated songs (similar to PMVs) based on the games.

The first ends at the "questions arc", and the second only provides limited information about what actually happened in the "anwser" part (I was not eager to research too much, in case a second season was in the works).

 

More than his powers and abilities, what you should "list" is the specifications for the "rules of engagement" for this particular "beating" (since you did not actually explained what "beat"  means in this context, I just assumed it was some kind of battle of wits or counter-arguments).

[RAGESTAR 479]

Just so everyone is clear, for those who are familiar with Battler, he will be using his power as the Game Master and Golden Endless Scorcerer. So no human level characters, or technicalities, please. I know that the series is based a lot between reality and fiction metaphor, but we're just using the magical part of the character.

Updated my previous post.

 

 

I only watched the anime and the animated songs (similar to PMVs) based on the games.

The first ends at the "questions arc", and the second only provides limited information about what actually happened in the "anwser" part (I was not eager to research too much, in case a second season was in the works).

 

More than his powers and abilities, what you should "list" is the specifications for the "rules of engagement" for this particular "beating" (since you did not actually explained what "beat"  means in this context, I just assumed it was some kind of battle of wits or counter-arguments).

Well, thats an understandable mistake, but I meant "beat" as in actual fighting, lol. But Battler is much, much more impressive in his visual novel. By the end of the series, he's pretty much like a god, so I thought a thread like this would be interesting.

[SilverComet 170]

I concede.

 

Just so everyone is clear, for those who are familiar with Battler, he will be using his power as the Game Master and Golden Endless Scorcerer. So no human level characters, or technicalities, please. I know that the series is based a lot between reality and fiction metaphor, but we're just using the magical part of the character.

Well, thats an understandable mistake, but I meant "beat" as in actual fighting, lol. But Battler is much, much more impressive in his visual novel. By the end of the series, he's pretty much like a god, so I thought a thread like this would be interesting.

 

Since my job is done (improving the quality of a thread); I will retire myself and my selected characters (Phoenix Wright the human) & (Twilight Sparkle the unicorn)  from this game.

 

sarabaja 

Edited March 24, 2015 by SilverComet

[RAGESTAR 479]

I concede.

 

 

Since my job is done (improving the quality of a thread); I will retire myself and my selected characters (Phoenix Wright the human) & (Twilight Sparkle the unicorn)  from this game.

 

sarabaja 

Alright then, thanks for droppong by, lol.

Anyone else wanna suggest someone?

[Noei 719]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKfufVb3ZYE

 

I wonder if this is strong enough to defeat him 

 

The character is Saber/King Arthur from Fate/Zero

Edited March 24, 2015 by Minsiuer Niel

[RAGESTAR 479]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKfufVb3ZYE

 

I wonder if this is strong enough to defeat him 

 

The character is Saber/King Arthur from Fate/Zero

Nope. Sorry, she's strong, but nowhere near strong enough. Battler's main power, Endless 9, was able to casually no sell the destrucion of a universe. So it's gonna take a lot more kick than that to tak him down.

Le bump. I'm bored, sorry, lol.

[Noei 719]

Ok, let's try with Galactus.........

[RAGESTAR 479]

Ok, let's try with Galactus.........

Much better choice! Galactus is very powerful, and would give a ton of fictional characters the back hand. However, Battler is above him by quite a margin, believe it or not. Battler's Endless 9 can negate any form of fictional attack, be it universal or multiversal, due to his ability to be able to amplify anything he does, be it a punch or magic, from 1 to infinity. Only characters with conceptual attacks, on a multiversal scale, have a chance of touching Battler. Also, his main weapon, Golden Key (that golden longsword) is the physical form of truth itself; meaning it cannot be blocked, dodged, slowed, avoided, or stalled, and it ignores concepts, such as time and durability.

 

In other words, this guy is so OP, that it's gonna take characters as strong, or stronger, than top tier DC and Marvel characters to beat him. But rest assured, I promise you, there are plenty of fictional characters who can put him down.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,307]

Although he's FAR too powerful and would doubtless cause this Battler fellow to quiver uncontrollably with fear, my OC alicornatrice (cockatrice turned alicorn) Corncob could easily defeat him.  Especially at checkers (he's very good at checkers).  He's defeated his archenemy (a squirrel named Tony with a mechanical paw) countless times; once in an epic bout of tug-of-war on the frickin' MOON!  He can travel through space without need for either a spaceship or spacesuit.  He's capable of telepathy; which he learned through a correspondence course.  And he's SO tremendously, awesomely, incalculably powerful that I don't even know what else he's capable of (and I invented him).  Except for defeating Battler; he can totes do that.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Ziggy and Angelbaby

[Twilight Dirac 721]

In other words, this guy is so OP, that it's gonna take characters as strong, or stronger, than top tier DC and Marvel characters to beat him. But rest assured, I promise you, there are plenty of fictional characters who can put him down.

 

So is this guy an actual character in an anime or something?  And if he is, how can anybody write a meaningful story using him as he would instantly resolve an external conflict, save those that would be either arbitrary or incomprehensible  (the bad guy uses infinity +1 shield, but fortunately Battler has an infinity^2 sword on him!)?  At this point is looks like you would have to start at Cthulhu and work your way up towards God just to beat the guy.  And I thought Superman was a problem character due to invulnerability, super strength and super speed.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Twilight Dirac

[Dust and Memories 557]

Much better choice! Galactus is very powerful, and would give a ton of fictional characters the back hand. However, Battler is above him by quite a margin, believe it or not. Battler's Endless 9 can negate any form of fictional attack, be it universal or multiversal, due to his ability to be able to amplify anything he does, be it a punch or magic, from 1 to infinity. Only characters with conceptual attacks, on a multiversal scale, have a chance of touching Battler. Also, his main weapon, Golden Key (that golden longsword) is the physical form of truth itself; meaning it cannot be blocked, dodged, slowed, avoided, or stalled, and it ignores concepts, such as time and durability.

 

In other words, this guy is so OP, that it's gonna take characters as strong, or stronger, than top tier DC and Marvel characters to beat him. But rest assured, I promise you, there are plenty of fictional characters who can put him down.

 

*yawns*

 

Boring.

 

One second, let me just activate this quantum foam-based battery and cause the heat death of the universe to kill your Battler guy.

[RAGESTAR 479]

Although he's FAR too powerful and would doubtless cause this Battler fellow to quiver uncontrollably with fear, my OC alicornatrice (cockatrice turned alicorn) Corncob could easily defeat him.  Especially at checkers (he's very good at checkers).  He's defeated his archenemy (a squirrel named Tony with a mechanical paw) countless times; once in an epic bout of tug-of-war on the frickin' MOON!  He can travel through space without need for either a spaceship or spacesuit.  He's capable of telepathy; which he learned through a correspondence course.  And he's SO tremendously, awesomely, incalculably powerful that I don't even know what else he's capable of (and I invented him).  Except for defeating Battler; he can totes do that.

Sorry, I should have said in the rules that OC's are also not allowed. If I allowed that, then this thread would have no point because someone could just make up a character with "place amount of power here" just to beat Battler. So, sorry, but no. Also, I don't appreciate you mocking the thread, either... -.-

 

So is this guy an actual character in an anime or something?  And if he is, how can anybody write a meaningful story using him as he would instantly resolve an external conflict, save those that would be either arbitrary or incomprehensible  (the bad guy uses infinity +1 shield, but fortunately Battler has an infinity^2 sword on him!)?  At this point is looks like you would have to start at Cthulhu and work your way up towards God just to beat the guy.  And I thought Superman was a problem character due to invulnerability, super strength and super speed.

There are characters who can match him, and beat him, in his own universe, so conflict isnt instantly solved. And like I said, there are plenty of fictional characters who can kick Battler's ass.

 

*yawns*

 

Boring.

 

One second, let me just activate this quantum foam-based battery and cause the heat death of the universe to kill your Battler guy.

Battler would be standing there, with his hands in his pockets, after the items activation, completely unharmed. He would then snap his fingers and reacreate the universe, just for LULZ. Though he couldn't bring back everyone who died...his little sister can, though, lol.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Battler Ushiromiya

[Discordian 6,022]

So let me get this straight: You get to use a near-omnipotent character but no one else can? Seems a bit unfair.

 

If the only way a character can be beaten is deus ex machina then there's no point to this topic. A character that can remake the universe at his very whim is unbeatable except by another character with the same power or has the ability to negate said power.

[Lunatic Cake 1,618]

I'll have a go at it, I suppose...

 

I would pick Miharu Rokujo. He has an secret technique inside him called Shinrabanshou which allows him to wish for anything he desires. It basically gives him endless possibilities if he wants to use it. He could erase anyone's existence or bring anyone back to life for example.

 

Probably not the best pick I'd say but I couldn't think of another character with endless possibilities right away..

[RAGESTAR 479]

So let me get this straight: You get to use a near-omnipotent character but no one else can? Seems a bit unfair. :PIf the only way a character can be beaten is deus ex machina then there's no point to this topic. A character that can remake the universe at his very whim is unbeatable except by another character with the same power or has the ability to negate said power.

Trust me, he's very, very far from omnipotent. There are people in his own world who have kicked his ass, and there are plenty of other fictional characters who could do the same.

 

I'll have a go at it, I suppose...

 

I would pick Miharu Rokujo. He has an secret technique inside him called Shinrabanshou which allows him to wish for anything he desires. It basically gives him endless possibilities if he wants to use it. He could erase anyone's existence or bring anyone back to life for example.

 

Probably not the best pick I'd say but I couldn't think of another character with endless possibilities right away..

Ooh, sounds powerful! Never heard of him, though...I think I'll look him up.

[P-Jay 1,987]

misogi kumagawa. he has this thing called 'fiction manipulation' that lets him warp reality however he wishes. he could just imagine that he never existed. unless that counts as omni-potent.

[RAGESTAR 479]

misogi kumagawa. he has this thing called 'fiction manipulation' that lets him warp reality however he wishes. he could just imagine that he never existed. unless that counts as omni-potent.

That would actually work on plenty of other characters, but not on Battler. Battler's main power denies the effect of things that are impossible or supernatural in origin, and Kumagawa's Allfiction would definetly fall under that catagory, lol.

[P-Jay 1,987]

That would actually work on plenty of other characters, but not on Battler. Battler's main power denies the effect of things that are impossible or supernatural in origin, and Kumagawa's Allfiction would definetly fall under that catagory, lol.

but...but...   ah, whatever. i tried

[RAGESTAR 479]

but...but...   ah, whatever. i tried

I know it must seem like bullcrap, but I'm seriously not making up this guys powers or exaggerating what he's capable of. Your suggestion was a good one, though. I didnt think anyone here read Madaka Box.

[P-Jay 1,987]

I know it must seem like bullcrap, but I'm seriously not making up this guys powers or exaggerating what he's capable of. Your suggestion was a good one, though. I didnt think anyone here read Madaka Box.

i just remembered him from a video i watched a long time ago. but thanks for telling me the name of the manga! oh, and can you pm me an answer? i wont post it here, or tell anyone, promise.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Peytonjay

[Discordian 6,022]

Here's the thing: If he can remake the universe and negate the power of super powered things there's little anyone can do to actually take him unless he can't take a punch to the face. Especially if by surprise.

 

In which case I pull Hei from Darker Than Black into the frey. Even without his contractor power over lightning he's a trained assassin who's specialty is blending in with the crowd, stealth and acrobatic maneuvering.

misogi kumagawa. he has this thing called 'fiction manipulation' that lets him warp reality however he wishes. he could just imagine that he never existed. unless that counts as omni-potent.

Medaka Box. <3

 

He was one of my favorite characters in that whole series. I never did get to finish the manga. I had gotten a bit of ways into the next villain's story arc.

[RAGESTAR 479]

Here's the thing: If he can remake the universe and negate the power of super powered things there's little anyone can do to actually take him unless he can't take a punch to the face. Especially if by surprise.In which case I pull Hei from Darker Than Black into the frey. Even without his supernatural power over lightning he's a trained assassin who's specialty is blending in with the crowd, stealth and acrobatic maneuvering.Medaka Box. <3He was one of my favorite characters in that whole series. I never did get to finish the manga. I had gotten a bit of ways into the next villain's story arc.

Oh, trust me, there's plenty of people who could outright make Ushiromiya their bitch, lol. And there are a few ways to get pat his Endless 9. Concepttual (utilizing a concept such as death or pain) attacks on a multiversal scale could do the trick. Also, being so much more powerful than him that its ridiculous could help too, lol.