music Is music dying?

[Guest]

Where I live people manly listen to rap I only know a few people where I live who don't like or downright hate rap like me. It got me thinking that rap (which I don't call music) is the only thing I hear people listening to and it's not only where I live it's just like people only will listen to rap. People have call me wierd and worse names that I prob can't wright on the forums. because I HATE rap when I say that and I like dubstep and metal it's like I just committed 10 acts of sin. I feel like because rap has been like the normal people are only listen to it because it's the normal. I think music in public is dying because of this and I honestly get PO when all I hear is rap and people don't even think about any other type of music just like any other genre doesn't exist and if another genre does start to shine people will kill it because rap had taken over. I went into soundcloud today and all my recommended was rap which is annoying I think if people just stop listening to rap more music genre will shine and not be ignored. I don't know that's just my thoughts what do you think.

 

Note: I know not everyone listens to rap and rap only if you listen to other genres I applaud you and I'm not just dissing on rap music lovers because I hate it I really think it's a serious problem. And if you do listen to rap how did you get into it? It seems to me people only listen because others are I may be right I may be wrong.

[CosmicSpark 2,120]

Depends on the tupe of music, mainstream music I would say is dying (RnB, Rap, pop, rock etc). You need to get into unknown bands, there good and not sell outs yet. Metal is a good option, or even remixes.

[Luna the Great of all the Russias 3,003]

Saying rap is terrible is subjective (though I will agree with you on many rap songs not being appealing to me). For me personally, songs I listen to are almost never known to others; I don't listen to what is considered popular music (no this not about hating what's popular but more so that the types of songs that are population usually don't interest me).

 

I do listen rap sometimes, but along with all songs it highly depends on content. For instance none of the rap songs I listen to are the stereotypical money, sex and drugs, but rather concerning history (such as historical figures, World War 1, history of humans). But as of now I'm not frequently listening to rap at all; probably video game soundtracks and Brony songs I'm listening to most frequently now.

Edited June 9, 2015 by Tsaritsa Luna

[SFyr 1,982]

Honestly, no, I don't think music is dying. More than that, I think music is getting a bigger boom than ever, with the sheer flood of new artists, bands, and music people of all kinds coming in the past few generations. The barrier to entry has been lowered, and now even people who keep music as a hobby, or just spend chunks of their spare time building a talent/ability for musical instruments and programs can contribute their own works. Sure, there's been a lot of lower-quality songs to come out as of late, but given the entire bulk of new songs becoming available to the public has increased dramatically... it makes perfect sense, and it'd be weird if it was any other way.

 

Anyways, there does seem to be a few trends going on these years, which favors both rap and dubstep. Personally, I generally dislike both. Half the time they come off as annoying or flimsy to me, without much actual depth or interest. But, I've found cases where I like songs from each genre--it's really just a matter of finding those people who approach it and present it in a way I can enjoy.

Rap... I don't pretend to know the intricacies about it, or the subtle things that make it so compelling to people, but it seems to have a huge focus on verbal flow. There have been a few songs that just blow me away, or brought me to realize how fluent and smooth the speaker manages to phrase his message. It's been this smaller number of songs that convinced me that even if I don't like rap, I think it's a great thing to have. It is pretty prevalent right now, but then the music industry does go through trends, and rap is big right now. 

--And on the dubstep note, I love electronic music, industrial noise, some subgenres of metal, and things of the like... dubstep has largely been a miss for me though, but there were still a few songs that I really enjoyed listening to.

 

So yeah. To each their own. Rap and dubstep seem to have their own major traits and ideal focuses. There's a very good chance the people you don't understand are simply looking for something different than you are.

Edited June 9, 2015 by SFyr

[Jora 164]

for the most part rap has devolved into N this N that Hoes,  Money i hate 99.8% of rap i only like VERY select artists, and sure there is lyric within good deep story driven rap but when all i hear is  all the hate propaganda and degrading of the female body its just very irritating...

 

 

 

i'm a Musician i 'm a singer songwriter guitarist bass player and drummer, i'm releasing my single in 3 weeks and my full album 6 months later it makes me sick that all rap is (to me) is just nasty vulgar crap when i play live show's for a $5 tip at a gig and loving it but then again that is just one side, my side and i stick to it.

[LeonShi500 155]

You don't think rap constitutes as music? Why not? What qualities does something have to meet to be classified as music? I think the majority of dubstep sounds like someone recording a broken dishwasher, but I can still consider it music. It's just not music that appeals to my ears.

You need to look into the more hidden rap songs that are buried beneath the mountains of popular mediocre rap songs. Trust me, you'll find plenty of good rap songs if you know where to look.

[colt_following 169]

I like rap, but not really much mainstream stuff. I try to find rappers who talk about actual important things or have unique styles. I'm more of a jazz guy myself, though.

 

 

I think it comes down to that music is becoming freer, and people are (dare I say it) getting less talented: hence, less singing, more Auto-Tune. Less actual high-quality rhyming and poetry, more rap about drugs, money, sex, etc, vanity, whatever.

 

The current generation is coming to accept lower quality, "instant" reality. The value of high-quality is diminishing as the number of people who value high quality diminish. 

 

(I hope I said that right)

[Sudo Krenton 243]

I would like to assert the fact that music, or at least modern day electronic music, is fading. It's not dying, as hardly any music genre truly dies. It's hard for me to listen to music because some of it is just so repetitive, and that there's barely any interesting, unique melody to it. Granted I admit that I am at fault for doing this too, but I try not to.

 

If you listen to, say a bunch of dubstep songs by various artists, you'll hear remarkable similarities in certain aspects of the songs. Today I head two different dubstep songs by different artists, and both of them used similar "laser pew" sounds, as well as "growls." And when I mean similar, I mean, like they could have just copied off of each other. As it is, I'm not a fan for dubstep (which should really be called bro-step, because true dubstep is no as chaotic).

 

A while back, I heard the exact same melody and synth sound in two different songs. I asked one of the guys who made the song if he had heard of the other one before, and he denied it. If he was telling the truth, then this proves to show that we're already beginning to overlap, and that ideas will at one point, all electronic music will have similar sounds. Already, a good deal of electronic music uses the same basic format for percussion. 

 

Other than that, I'd say that because orchestral music, and jazz aren't necessarily reduced to the generic +/- 5 minutes of electronic music, and because of the actual thought process that goes into the composition of said music, we shouldn't see the demise of those genres for a long time. Rock/Country/Metal should be sticking around for quite some time too. I would say that modern-day rap and trap are also subject to the "fading out" soon.

 

This is my opinion, and it doesn't mean it's true.

 

Interesting video related to this topic:

 

[NotoriousSMALL 1,984]

Musical styles have been changing since the dawn of time, but I guess it is human nature to go against change.

 

I don't see why everyone makes such a big deal about "today's music"

we get it, youre a special snowflake and you only listen to classical opera.

Edited June 9, 2015 by NotoriousSMALL

[Tom Snyder 4,112]

I prefer rock, metal. Some songs by evanessence i listen this by far is my favorite of hers:

 

Edited June 9, 2015 by Candy Star

[colt_following 169]

I would like to assert the fact that music, or at least modern day electronic music, is fading. It's not dying, as hardly any music genre truly dies. It's hard for me to listen to music because some of it is just so repetitive, and that there's barely any interesting, unique melody to it. Granted I admit that I am at fault for doing this too, but I try not to.

 

If you listen to, say a bunch of dubstep songs by various artists, you'll hear remarkable similarities in certain aspects of the songs. Today I head two different dubstep songs by different artists, and both of them used similar "laser pew" sounds, as well as "growls." And when I mean similar, I mean, like they could have just copied off of each other. As it is, I'm not a fan for dubstep (which should really be called bro-step, because true dubstep is no as chaotic).

 

A while back, I heard the exact same melody and synth sound in two different songs. I asked one of the guys who made the song if he had heard of the other one before, and he denied it. If he was telling the truth, then this proves to show that we're already beginning to overlap, and that ideas will at one point, all electronic music will have similar sounds. Already, a good deal of electronic music uses the same basic format for percussion. 

 

Other than that, I'd say that because orchestral music, and jazz aren't necessarily reduced to the generic +/- 5 minutes of electronic music, and because of the actual thought process that goes into the composition of said music, we shouldn't see the demise of those genres for a long time. Rock/Country/Metal should be sticking around for quite some time too. I would say that modern-day rap and trap are also subject to the "fading out" soon.

 

This! It's like the popular way to go is conformity... You get the most money from just following the trends and doing what the popular artists do. No one is looking to break the mold, everyone just wants to find "that" feeling and make it last...That sucks because its really pushing these 'formulaic' methods for "writing"/producing music to the forefront and turning music from an art form into a science where you can find the trends and move with them. Produce nearly-identical results, pull the same crowd each time into spending increasing amounts of money on more and more of the same old thing.

 

 

 

This all to say that it would be cool if members around here took some interest in the Equestria Big Band in my signature. I'm a real nut for Frank Sinatra, the Count Basie Orchestra, etc, and their influences have made huge impacts on the way music has developed in America, and throughout the world.

Edited June 9, 2015 by colt_following

[Splendormane 203]

 Music is everywhere we go. even the wind can count as music. So no music isn't dying and rap is a form of music wether you like it or not. People need to grow up and stop making big deals wether you like rap, pop, dubstep or anything else.

[colt_following 169]

Just wanted to drop a case-in-point... listen:

 

http://www.tvcommercialspots.com/food-and-beverage/hersheys-caramels-give-it-to-me-im-worth-it-feed-your-fancy-fifth-harmony-worth-it-hersheys-caramel-hersheyscaramel-fifthharmony-worthitfeedyourfancy-smores/

 

Jump to 0:47 - 

 

 

It's like they didn't try. come on.

 

be original.

 

be yourself- imitate those who make an impression and improve or alter that

 

otherwise, it's just the same thing, a broken record looping over and over.

Edited June 9, 2015 by colt_following

[CheeryFox 23,822]

Music is only dying in its quality, not quantity. But that could be a good thing if you think about it. It gives rise to more low-key artists. It has been this way for some time - a music lover has to filter through all of this - I'm not one to complain really... 

[Sugar Pea 2,682]

I'm not sure if music is simply evolving like a Pokémon, or just loosing it's touch. I have noticed that certain genres are straying of the rail a bit, if you know what I mean. Pop sounds more like Rap now and then, Country is almost starting to sound like pop, etc etc.

Music has lost it's touch for me, anyways. I can only listen to it for so long until I have to turn it off because of the minor headache it gives me anymore. Only very rarely will there be a gem, but overall most of it just sounds the same to me.

But I would like to point out I'm not saying music today sucks or anything, I'm not one of those people. Maybe it's just me.
 

Edited June 9, 2015 by Mellifluous

[Vox 870]

Nope, still plenty of good artists out there, even amidst the highly marketed pop scene. Those who hate on "new" music are really hating on "popular" music, regardless, they're just a bunch of discontent hipsters with rustled jimmies.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,803]

I don't think music could ever die. Great music lives on for generations and music of that quality is still being made today, even if it is not mainstream at this point.

 

I do think that the music industry here in America has been on an up and down slide for a while now.

[Discordian 6,015]

Music isn't dying. If anything it's more alive than ever. There's music that appeals to the general public (rap, pop and country) and there's music for people who have more specific needs. Genres can even mix quite well and people are always out to make or find unique music. Have you ever heard electronic and metal mix? How about rap and rock? Disco and bit tunes?

 

It's a little close-minded to consider a genre you don't listen to or like not music and worse to consider that the reason music is dying. The people who truly know and love music are the people you should be paying attention to. The people who could integrate music into their very lives rather than it being a passive background noise while they do busywork (hint: That's why non-invasive music like pop and country tends to be the most popular, because it won't disrupt their daily lives).

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,162]

@@Orange Burst

 

Nothing big; just letting you know I edited the topic title so that it properly reflected your point. The 'somewhat' was a little unnecessary and muddled the topic somewhat.

 

Thanks, and carry on.

[Denim&Venöm 19,388]

Well the industry has been in a rut and has been for a decade now. Last year, not a single artist in any genre got a platinum record in the states. No it isn't dying, but it is on the decline from a career and fiscal standpoint. 

 

I don't listen to pop, rap or country. They're all unengaging to me.  

 

I'm a metal head first and foremost. Like Applejack w/ apples, I can talk your head off about heavy metal. Heavy metal music in america certainly isn't dead, although the media will lead you to believe otherwise. They don't even try to bash it as violent, satanic and bad for kids. They just pretend like it doesn't exist. Truth is, bands are charting higher than before. But around the rest of the world, it's alive and well, with the whole of Europe being the grand mecca of metal extravagance, being respected and acknowledged on national levels.  

 

This is probably true for all forms of music, but the best will not be on radio, or god forbid MTV & VH1. The internet is the new medium for getting excellent music. Music that is passive, soothing, unoffensive or obtrusive, that's popular cause the unwashed masses don't have to think about what they're listening to. If it sounds pleasing or trendy, they flow with it, and that unfortunately what sells. It's appealing to the lowest common denominator and it's not hard to do.

 

But just cause it's popular doesn't make it great. Working towards the creme of the crop of music listeners is where the real satisfaction lies. Music that engages the mind, gets people moving, evokes passion in an audience and respect for technical ability and performance talent, that type of music will continue on and always be respected, whether it's metal, rock, punk, classical, jazz, blues or folk. 

 

If you think music is dead, then you're not listening closely enough. 

 

 

I prefer rock, metal. Some songs by evanessence i listen this by far is my favorite of hers:

Ever listen to stuff off their first album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kySDbZJjQAE

[Tom Snyder 4,112]

Ever listen to stuff off their first album?

Yes, i've heard most of the songs, but i prefer the ones that have more tempo to them; such as "Tourniquet" Or "Haunted". The slow ones, just don't get to me.

[Denim&Venöm 19,388]

Yes, i've heard most of the songs, but i prefer the ones that have more tempo to them; such as "Tourniquet" Or "Haunted". The slow ones, just don't get to me.

You must be talking about Fallen. Technically that's their second record. The one I posed was off of their real first, Origin. Ever listen to any off of that?

[Pastel 7,630]

You can't say music is dying just because of ONE genre. And rap is far from being the only one nowadays (actually there are more and more music genres).

Rap is music, I used to dislike it (now I actually like it), and even though you dislike it you can't say it's not music.

My least favorite genre is metal, but I still think it's music, it's just not for me.

 

Also saying "music is dying" is too general. What are you talking about exactly? Certainly not quantity, and if it's quality maybe that's just you. It's OK if you prefer older stuff, but that doesn't mean music is dying, it's just a matter of tastes.

 

And maybe there are new artists you would love, but you haven't discovered them yet?

Edited June 9, 2015 by Blobulle

[Mand'alor Dash 2,224]

Sadly, I am starting to feel like music has gone the way of the parody film. The entire industry is designed to cut corners at every turn, and new, enterprising artists are only getting into it for the wrong reasons. There are certainly exceptions, but for the most part, it's all about shunning talent and promoting cheap marketing tricks.

[LittleMac 3,085]

Music isn't really dying, it's more that big industries kinda don't care much for originality. Although, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say it's dying