S5 episodes 17-26 synopsis revealed

[MLPFanatic34 3,241]

Eh, i don't see this happening though. Starlight isn't connected to the twin sisters or any objects of magical power, and honestly was pretty much a nobody in equestria before the mane six getting involved.

 

I don't see starlight becoming an alicorn unless she somehow inserts herself into what twilight's life was or something.

Oh couldn't she do that though? insert herself into Twilight's life?

[Unlikeable Pony 2,700]

Oh couldn't she do that though? insert herself into Twilight's life?

 

Well there's a world of difference in just altering time and actually stealing someone's life though.

Altering time so the mane six never got their cutie marks is one thing, but somehow stealing a destiny would involve a whole other kind of magic.

[MLPFanatic34 3,241]

Well there's a world of difference in just altering time and actually stealing someone's life though.

Altering time so the mane six never got their cutie marks is one thing, but somehow stealing a destiny would involve a whole other kind of magic.

Oh then I wonder what will happen to Starlight if she alters time.

[ShadOBabe 19,058]

From what I read, Starlight Glimmer doesn't send Twilight into the past or anything. She alters the past to prevent Rainbow Dash from performing her first Sonic Rainboom. Twilight becomes just an ordinary Unicorn, studying under Princess Sunset Shimmer, and the others are delayed in getting, or maybe even get different Cutey Marks.

 

I'm calling this right here, right now...

 

I think Sunset Shimmer will grow to believe Twilight's insane tale that SHE is actually supposed to be princess, and not Sunset Shimmer. Princess Sunset will then use her magic to give Twilight the means to change everything back. Possibly even sending her into the past to convince Rainbow Dash that she CAN do a sonic rainboom. Twilight will win out, everyone will reset and she'll have her wings back.

 

Besides, it would cost Hasbro too much to revert back to toys depicting Twilight as an Alicorn.

 

Where is this "Princess Sunset Shimmer" thing coming from?

She was gone from Equestria a LONG time before the Rainboom event.

So eliminating the event would not lead to her taking Twilight's place as Princess.

 

Nevermind the fact that the creators have explicitly said the movies have no bearing on the show.

That means no Sunset to begin with.

 

And even if they DID, they'd need to set that up. Can you imagine all the little girls out there that haven't watched the movies (because understandably, they're just here for the fantasy horses, not the highschool dramedies) going, "Who the heck is this Orange and Red pony that is a princess? She was never in the show before..."

[Unlikeable Pony 2,700]

Where is this "Princess Sunset Shimmer" thing coming from?

She was gone from Equestria a LONG time before the Rainboom event.

So eliminating the event would not lead to her taking Twilight's place as Princess.

 

Nevermind the fact that the creators have explicitly said the movies have no bearing on the show.

That means no Sunset to begin with.

 

And even if they DID, they'd need to set that up. Can you imagine all the little girls out there that haven't watched the movies (because understandably, they're just here for the fantasy horses, not the highschool dramedies) going, "Who the heck is this Orange and Red pony that is a princess? She was never in the show before..."

 

Its mainly because Sunset essentially became the human equivilent of an alicorn at the end of the last movie and is more or less aping twilight in all things in the EQG universe.

 

 

Oh then I wonder what will happen to Starlight if she alters time.

I do have to say though, the idea of Starlight stealing a destiny isn't a bad idea, given what cutie marks represent.

 Heck, I thought her initial plan in the premier was going to be to steal twilight's cutie mark and turn into an alicorn herself.

 

 

It would ahve been interesting if they did a plot where starlight steals twilight's cutie mark, "becomes" her in time, and twilight spends the episode having to convince her old friends that SHE is their friend and that starlight isn't. (I kind of thought that would have been a good villain to do around S4 myself right after twilgiht ascended)

[ShadOBabe 19,058]

Its mainly because Sunset essentially became the human equivilent of an alicorn at the end of the last movie and is more or less aping twilight in all things in the EQG universe.

 

Oh, yeah I heard about that. That's not what I meant.

I don't get why cuteycindyhoney thinks she'll be in the finale of Season 5.

Edited October 6, 2015 by ShadOBabe

[BlinkZ 1,151]

Well, if she breaks up the sonic rainboom, we're probably looking at "Magical mystery cure 2.0"

do that and hmm plumber seeds..discord geeting free with NO way to stop himm yeah great plan there

[UnknownFry 169]

The concept of Princess Sunset Shimmer comes from those earlier faked leaked episode synopses.

 

Actually the staff has been playing around with the idea of including Sunset in the main show, and they can introduce her  just as long they give an explanation for her.

 

It is pretty obvious that things are going to be restored to normal by the end of the Cutie Remark if the end of Friendship Games, and also that Season 5 character poster are any indication, and also official merchandise is concerned. 

Edited October 6, 2015 by UnknownFry

[Guest]

 

 

Remember Rodimus prime? If they tried to force people to like him and "told" fans what they wanted, instead of nixing him in the role he was in and bringing back Optimus, I doubt Transformers would be the powerhouse it is today.

 

Yes, but have you met Transformers fans? They are also incredibly unpleasable because they have been taught that if they whine enough that they get their way. 

[Unlikeable Pony 2,700]

do that and hmm plumber seeds..discord geeting free with NO way to stop himm yeah great plan there

Hey, if nightmare star is a thing, we don't know how powerful celestia would be in the alternate timeline: discord shown to be stoppable by other magical beings via tirek in Twilight's kingdom, so if nightmare star were powerful enough she could presumably destroy the plunder seeds by herself.

 

 

Yes, but have you met Transformers fans? They are also incredibly unpleasable because they have been taught that if they whine enough that they get their way. 

while I concede that point, I think the good of the people behind transformers trying to please transformers fans has lead to more good than bad.

After all, the idea of the autobots being "evil" and the decepticons and megatron "Good", which some of the more insane fans insisted on, has lead to the incredibly well done and well recieved backstory for the decepticons involving what was essentially robot apartheid on cybertron.

[BlinkZ 1,151]

It's all expecutualion of course..unless you seen spoilers and clips of the fanalie but Starlight somehoe alternign time to make sure twi never become princess would be good for her cause revenge but if we lose twlight wings for he rest of he seris i'm going to be disappointed. Would Starlight go phyical back in time or simple manuplae events like neddle and thread. Also Sunset sayingin EqG universe, so starligh is going to be a new cast member it just ovous cuase only so much Twilight can learn but ALOT she can teach.

[JH24 385]

 

Kind of confused myself. I just don't see Discord using mind control on fluttershy: I just don't. he cares about her too much to try and brainwash her into liking him.

I could possibly see him brainwashing the others and duping Fluttershy into thinking they like him, but that seems weird.

 

 

You're right. Discord would never put a spell on Fluttershy, and I like to think he has learned enough about friendship in the season 4 finale not to put the other ponies under a spell either. In my previous post I was more referring to the others besides Fluttershy/Twilight.

 

I like how we have a bit of conitnuity here. In the Treehugger episode Discord learned there's nothing wrong with having multiple friends, maybe that lesson gave him the motivation to lean less on Fluttershy and try to bond with her friends as well.

 

I'm looking forward to see how he got closer to Applejack, Rarity and Rainbow Dash. (He seems on pretty good terms with Pinkie Pie already) Especially Rainbow Dash as she was the most hostile towards him. Maybe he won her over by appealing to her competitive nature.

Edited October 6, 2015 by JH24

[CastletonSnob 3,096]

Think the CMCs will get their cutie marks this Saturday?

[Wind Chaser 4,769]

I really hope they expand on Starlight Glimmer's motivations in the season finale. She was really shaping up to be more than the usual "power grab" villains until the season premiere left her backstory a giant question mark. There would be a definitely legitimate message about egotism, pride, and overcompensating for low self-esteem in there if they did it right.

[cuteycindyhoney 13,341]

Where is this "Princess Sunset Shimmer" thing coming from?

I do have to admit I don't remember where I read it. I came across it shortly after that animatic (?) clip showing Starlight Glimmer in Twilight's castle was released. Hopefully it wasn't just some fan speculation. I think it would make a good episode. Well, time will tell.

[ShadOBabe 19,058]

I do have to admit I don't remember where I read it. I came across it shortly after that animatic (?) clip showing Starlight Glimmer in Twilight's castle was released. Hopefully it wasn't just some fan speculation. I think it would make a good episode. Well, time will tell.

 

Wait, I'm confused.

You said Princess "Sunset Shimmer", now you're saying "Starlight Glimmer".

Which are you talking about?

 

Okay, I read all of the posts over again, I think my confusion is clearing. XD

But I highly disagree that it would be a good idea. Ignoring that fact that I'm not a fan of the EQG "thing" and would like to be able to enjoy the show without being roped into it, Sunset has has zero screen time in the show itself. Her just popping up and being a Princess would make no sense for a number of reasons (which I already listed).

Edited October 6, 2015 by ShadOBabe

[MAIKUN 262]

Think the CMCs will get their cutie marks this Saturday?

I dunno VG_Addict, maybe or maybe not. Who knows, probably in the altered timeline part in the S5 finale or S6.

[UnknownFry 169]

Odds are against the CMC's getting their marks this upcoming episode.

[CastletonSnob 3,096]

Odds are against the CMC's getting their marks this upcoming episode.

 

What? What makes you say that?

[UnknownFry 169]

Mainly just a hunch based on the premise (whatever little we have of it) for the upcoming episode. (

 

I could be wrong though.

[cuteycindyhoney 13,341]

Wait, I'm confused.

You said Princess "Sunset Shimmer", now you're saying "Starlight Glimmer".

Which are you talking about?

 

Okay, I read all of the posts over again, I think my confusion is clearing. XD

But I highly disagree that it would be a good idea. Ignoring that fact that I'm not a fan of the EQG "thing" and would like to be able to enjoy the show without being roped into it, Sunset has has zero screen time in the show itself. Her just popping up and being a Princess would make no sense for a number of reasons (which I already listed).

I think the girl "tween" demographic is strong enough for a pony Sunset Shimmer to be a viable character. It could be done with no mention or reference to the EQG movies. If Twilight Sparkle failed to hatch a dragon, (No Rainboom) it stands to reason that Celestia would have a different "Number One Student" under her wing. Perhaps even one who discovers the Friendshipp of Magic, and becomes a Princess. Why not just say she's named Sunset Shimmer, and toss a bone to fans of the EQG franchise? She wouldn't be the SAME Sunset Shimmer from the movies, just an alternate dimensional variant that looks and acts like her "Rainbow Rocks" and "Friendship Games" ponysona . (Is that a word?)

[Magnum Flare 553]

-snip-

 

I was wondering where Scare Master is, but I found it anyway XD

 

When will it be shown is the question now.

Edited October 7, 2015 by Magnum Flare

[Steve Piranha 29,499]

I think the girl "tween" demographic is strong enough for a pony Sunset Shimmer to be a viable character. It could be done with no mention or reference to the EQG movies. If Twilight Sparkle failed to hatch a dragon, (No Rainboom) it stands to reason that Celestia would have a different "Number One Student" under her wing. Perhaps even one who discovers the Friendshipp of Magic, and becomes a Princess. Why not just say she's named Sunset Shimmer, and toss a bone to fans of the EQG franchise? She wouldn't be the SAME Sunset Shimmer from the movies, just an alternate dimensional variant that looks and acts like her "Rainbow Rocks" and "Friendship Games" ponysona . (Is that a word?)

Makes sense Celly will have another number 1 student in that timeline, but I doubt it will be Sunny, as she wen't to the human world before Twi took her test, and the Rainboom wouldn't have affected that event in any way

 

-snip-

 

I was wondering where Scare Master is, but I found it anyway XD

 

When will it be shown is the question now.

Halloween, but it's been leaked weeks ago, and many of us saw it already 

[sweetolebob18 728]

Based on the list, Episode 20 Pinkie Pie Knows, this might be Cadance & Shining are having a foal.

Episode 21 Hearth Breakers sounds like the promised Pie family episode

So, Scaremaster is going to be a Halloween special & not a regular episode?

 

I've been trying to put the episodes in order.  Call the pilot June 20-21 of year 1, Princess Twilight (S4 E1 &  E2) June 19-22 year 2 (? Discord messes up day & night, it's a little hard to say).  Season 4 has no other easily dateable episodes but season 5 has several.

 

If Scaremaster is on Nightmare Night, year 2 then allowing for the events of Twilight's Kingdom, the Season 5 pilot, & Castle Sweet Castle (S5 E3, probably the 1st episode),  the rest of season 4 probably takes place between the last week in June, year 2 & no later than the 1st or 2nd week in October, year 2

Edited October 8, 2015 by sweetolebob18

[MLPFanatic34 3,241]

Am I the only one that wonders if Starlight is a former student of Celestia's? Maybe that's just me thinking that.