cider float 2,539 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 (edited) Why are so many characters getting redeemed and becoming good? And they're mostly female. Trixie Babs Seed Gilda Discord (only male but I since he's the spirit of chaos who knows) Diamond Tiara Sunset Shimmer Not redeemed Sombra Chrysalis Tirek Flim and Flam Wind Rider Iron Will Let's keep this straight, I prefer villains to stay villains for as long as they could be. They do not become redeemed but merely create a truce nothing more than that. Yes MLP follows the whole "women are never evil they are just misunderstood.." ideal but this thing goes in many other American shows. Female villains are always sympathized or redeemable what gives? I mean take Maleficent for example which is a whole movie dedicated towards one. Edited October 10, 2015 by cider float 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMorison 407 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 Iron Will kind of had a redemption in the comic, though I don't think he was evil in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas 27,894 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 (edited) Iron Will's not even a bad guy, and the other characters that haven't been redeem are just irredeemable, nothing about their gender As far as the actual redemption themselves go though, I always felt they've been handled pretty shittily. Gilda's and Diamond Tiara's redemptions are the only ones I thought were actually good, Discord and Sunset took a while for them to work/take effect, and Trixie's and Babs Seed's were flat-out awful imo Edited October 10, 2015 by Megas75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catpone Cerberus 23,707 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 I think that reason why evil becomes good is because it teaches that no matter who you are you can change. And mostly females? well, everything in mlp is mostly females. 1 “Cats!” “Cats!” “Music!” “Cats!” “Cats!” “(^・ω・^ )ノ” Ask me something! https://mlpforums.com/topic/139270-ask-the-cerberus/#entry4129993Signature by @Stevonnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust* 3,302 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 What about the chick during the first two episodes of season 5? Starlight Glimer. She... Is evil, pure evil. She was not redeemed in any way. Also, the changling Queen is still evil. With characters like Sombra he wasn't really there much. A glimps of his past and then he was banished. Tirek had a brother who was also evil but was redeemed by the pony friendship. Flim and Flam will always be who they are because that is their destiny. Flimflam literally means this: 1. swindle (someone) with a confidence game. Wind Rider was just a pony trying to outlive his days and try to stay number one. Not really a villain just a sad old pony. Iron Will was redeemed after talking with flutters just. Might not have been a big thing, was a bit subtle but still he walked away a little different that day. Stardust My Art My Non-Pony Art Ask A Pony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WubBeast 49 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 Yeah kinda unfair in a way Matthew Ervin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikeable Pony 2,699 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 I will agree that I think they're redeeming too many villains. I think Trixie lost much of her entertainment value when she turned good (the dash/trixie comic had her at least still be conning others to keep her funny), and I think Discord was at his best as a villain. I hope they don't redeem lightning dust or Wind rider: i think those two would make great returning villains. I think that reason why evil becomes good is because it teaches that no matter who you are you can change. And mostly females? well, everything in mlp is mostly females. Yeah, pretty much this. The show just has more girls than guys, so of course more girls will be redeemed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kivil 1,721 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 I never knew trixie was converted to the religion of friendship! ~My life is a bunch of Discord~Yes, the pun was intended~Kivil~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob 3,080 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 You forgot Lightning Dust on the "Not Redeemed" list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1111 1,284 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 Well the shows targeted audience is young girls, and they believe a show mostly made up of girl characters will do better and be more enjoyable true or not for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikeable Pony 2,699 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 one thing, while there are of course a few young males that like the show, hasbro doesn't really try to cater to them apart from spike as a "designated token male" character. As such, there's low pressure from hasbro to introduce more males and high pressure to focus on females since the girls will relate to them more, while they believe there's few males watching the show that would need someone to relate to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daring_Do 552 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 (edited) "I think there's a double-edged sword to reforming villains. It's good to see them come around, because it shows us that people can change and that if you find yourself making a mistake, you yourself can change and be forgiven. However, I also feel it's actually important to show some villains remain villainous. Unfortunately, in this world, we run into people who will continue to hurt us no matter how much kindness we show them. It's realistic to show that this can happen and that it is best to cut abusive people out of our lives—like Rainbow Dash did with Gilda." - From an interview with Lauren Faust Edited October 10, 2015 by Daring_Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetolebob18 728 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 As to "Why mostly female characters?" Money. Hasbro made this show to sell MLP dolls & reckons that market is mostly girls. Boys do NOT play w dolls! (They do, however, have adventures w action figures.) Hasbro reckons girls mostly buy girl dolls, so .... As to why most villains get reformed, well, IMO Hasbro thinks it's necessary. It is like in the old Comics Code, they have to show crime doesn't pay & by extension, villains don't prosper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daring_Do 552 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 As to "Why mostly female characters?" Money. Hasbro made this show to sell MLP dolls & reckons that market is mostly girls. Boys do NOT play w dolls! (They do, however, have adventures w action figures.) Hasbro reckons girls mostly buy girl dolls, so .... As to why most villains get reformed, well, IMO Hasbro thinks it's necessary. It is like in the old Comics Code, they have to show crime doesn't pay & by extension, villains don't prosper. His question was actually a combination of the two - Why most of the characters getting reformed are female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawzy 1,302 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I don't really care if the villian is a male or a female...it's no biggy...villians are villians regardless of their gender xD Think For Yourself. Be Yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedEarl 1,332 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I never knew trixie was converted to the religion of friendship! Yes, she's the "Great and Apologetic Trixie" or some shit like that. 1 Creator of MLP Ruined Vines and Recorder Sh*t Equestria's Biggest Hip-Hop Nerd Everyday is Leg Day! Follow me on Twitter: @EarlBrony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikey-Wikey 378 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Since when was Iron Will an antagonist...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinter 3,064 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Iron Will isn't evil (He's a Minotaur) he's just pushy. Sombra can't really be redeemed on account of being physically obliterated. XD 1 My OC's: Malinter, Rahl, Vengeful impact & alias-the-marked-one First fic i've written since forever here Skype: Malinter@Outlook.com "Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier." most legendary quote ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyaN_ 292 October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Thats what makes the show special.. Usually other shows have the villains either beaten up, imprisoned or ever so rarely killed off. About the whole reformation thing... it teaches that everypony can change their ways, with the help of others... ...and the gender equality thing? I don't see that being much of a problem seeing that most of the characters are female (which is totally cool with me ) FIY the image was made by cazra http://cazra.deviantart.com/art/Equality-525055371 just thought i should give credit to where it's due =) *I am the master of my fate* Huge thanks for Kyoshi for this wicked awesome signature! You rock, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pineapple Bloom 511 October 18, 2015 Share October 18, 2015 I don't see people complain about other shows having mostly male characters, so I don't understand why people instantly complain if something is the slightest bit feminine-dominated. "My past does not define me, because my past is not today." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Stream. 708 October 18, 2015 Share October 18, 2015 Honestly. I don't think half these characters are evil. Chrysalis, despite her sinister ways....was actually only trying to live up to her duty as a Changling Queen. She was trying to get them food. I'm sure if their food was to suck away hate....they would then be considered protagonists because they'd be doing something good. It's just unfortunate that their food was love. Trixie wasn't even evil. She was a show off. And I don't think she actually changed. Sure she saw the wrong in her stealing the alicorn amulet, but when she made that "I AM SO HUMBLE." announcement, it's clear she's still her old self...just with a slightly better attitude. Flim and Flame doesn't have to be reformed, or redeemed.....they are businessmen/con artists trying to make a living and gain profit. That isn't evil..that's just life for many people in this world. Iron Will....well I'm sure his intentions weren't to make Fluttershy some super monstrous jerk. His methods are aggressive, but that's him. Can't blame him for what she did. SILVER STREAM'S POETRY DUMP I am Silver Stream || My Request Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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