Do you think it's only a matter of time before they show drugs?

[ManaMinori 4,149]

The writers have gotten away with showing RD's alcohol/cider addiction, forced magic brainwashing and reformation, actual death (hearts and hooves day song), near death (NMM vs Sunbutt, and Twi thinking NMm had killed her), communism, concentration camps, war, prosthetic limbs, nasty diseases, con-artists, pony word switch swears, self-harm, etc.

 

Congraduponylations, FiM has nearly done it all!

 

Except drug use. To my knowledge, it hasn't yet been covered. And while I don't necessarily want the subject touched on in what is supposed to a clean, innocent, wholesome show, in spite of all of the bad and negative things mentioned as already covered, above, all that stuff is already in my sweet little pony escapism show, sooooo...."why not"?

 

Off the top of my head, I think if drugs were introduced in FiM, it would be strange as hay stuff parodying XTC, (Molly), "Everfree", for obvious reasons. The similar wordplay, We know so little about the Everfree, many weird plants that could be turned into medicinals, like Zecora does, and the irony of the forest being spooky and odd bringing about a euphoric, hallucinogen effect? (Prince Blueblood under the effects of "Everfree"?)

 

But what do you guys think?

[GeekySonic 1,151]

I'm sure the writers could find a way to weave that into an episode if they wanted to. Who knows? I wouldn't be surprised if we see something along those lines sometime this season.

[aoEAF2FBvC0MIo2Q 3,676]

In the season 4 premiere, there was that potion Twilight drank that arguably caused her to hallucinate. You could say she took a hallucinogenic drug.

 

Though perhaps the better question to pose is whether or not you're just talking drug use or the much more serious topic of drug addiction.

Edited March 11, 2016 by SunBurn

[redshell 195]

Inspiration manifestation anypony?

[Unlikeable Pony 2,700]

Meh. if they were going to do that I figure they'd just use dark magic and use it as an allegory for drugs. Like Rarity in inspiration manifestation.

[BrawnyCharger 513]

I'd love to see an episode dealing with the issue of drug abuse, and the peer pressure that is often associated with drug abuse. After all they've dealt with the issue in various cartoons of the 80's and 90's. So why not have MLP deal with it as well.?

[Sabrinie 392]

They could probably do something with Pinkie...like a sugar rush addiction or something silly like that 

[Jest (Inactive) 875]

I don't want to be this guy, but I have to be this guy, this is again way over-analysing. RD does not have an alcohol addiciton, at least not the same as real world addiction, otherwise she would be drinking every single day. 

 

 

Communism - What on earth are you talking about, mind linking an episode where they mention actual communism? 

 

Concentration camp - Again, mind showing what episode? 

 

War - The only wars I can think of are with Sombra and the changelings and both are done in a very PG friendly way, many cartoons have battles etc.

 

Prosthetic limbs - Haven't seen this

 

Nasty diseases, - Haven't seen this

 

Con-artists - Even the most childish children shows have some form of con artist. 

 

Pony word switch swears - No idea what this means

 

Self-harm - Just no.

 

My god I wish people would stop forcing their Grimdark views onto the MLP show and picking out things which don't exist. Lets make this clear for you.  MLP does not contain any of the things you listed, it only contains them on a PG level if at all. This is a show that has to be suitable for children as well, if it contained these things it would be removed from networks. 

 

I don't understand why people think MLP has or would want it to have these things, I enjoy it because it is fun, light hearted, not to deep and provides good lessons not because it's WWII with drugs and alcohol abuse   -_- 

[Crypty Scribbles 6,635]

Nope. Dis cartoon not about it.

[Scrubbed user 3,417]

Well, Treehugger is a hippy, and a stereotype of hippies is drug use. I am still somewhat convinced that she is Fluttershy's dealer.

[SynBassilicious Pony 322]

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Edited January 30, 2023 by SynBassilicious Pony

[Luminance 2,187]

They could probably do something with Pinkie...like a sugar rush addiction or something silly like that

 

I could imaging that looking like this but maybe worse.

 

[EquestriaGuy 1,074]

If this was 1991, I'd say yes, but I don't think we're still in the midst of the "Just Say No" campaign.

[simba86 1,541]

you mean poison joke didn't count?

[hollow-shades 130]

Berry Punch likes this suggestion.

 

Anyways, the effects of the Poison Joke could kinda represent the effects of after smoking some Everfree Drug...maybe Poison Joke IS a drug?

[Rainbow Diamonds 282]

I thought Inspiration Manifestation was on drug addiction. Rarity was addicted to the Inspiration Manifestation spell that it affected her health and those around her. She didn't sleep, she didn't want to be anywhere without the book, she wanted Spike to keep it a secret, it finally stopped after Spike told her what she was doing (Sometimes the best way to stop someone's drug addiction is confronting them.) The inspiration manifestation book was like a drug to Rarity. 

[cider float 2,539]

Any kind of changes in the mind from substances is usually covered by magic potions. That potion that Twilight took from Zecora in that one episode and allowed her to see in the past... could that be she was more or less hallucinating? 

 

 

And finally the substance Applebloom drank that induced the cutie pox could be a reference to steroids (one of the side effects from steroids is acne )

 

Edited March 12, 2016 by cider float

[Roughshod 721]

It's an interesting and possibly very amusing prospect. Some of the above posts have mentioned episodes that could be interpreted as symbolically alluding to drug use, although I think the OP means a more direct reference to actual substances consumed with the intention of altering the users physical and mental state. If Hasbro permitted this I would presume it would need to be done in a very PG and toned down fashion while also being subtle in its approach to abuse and addiction. It's a very sensitive and controversial topic to put in place on a show with such a young target audience(even many bronies are still fairly young for the issue to have strong resonance with).

 

Personally I'm not totally convinced it would be a great idea. Especially since themes of obsession, peer pressure, and self reliance have already been explored thoroughly.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

 

 

Communism - What on earth are you talking about, mind linking an episode where they mention actual communism? 

That's referring to the season 5 premier, although I would equate Starlight's "town" more to a cult than communism 

 

 

 

Concentration camp - Again, mind showing what episode? 

 

The Sombra and Chrysalis timelines both showed something similar. Chrysalis in particular implied that many ponies were imprisoned and were having their love siphoned off for sustenance. That's why Zecora had the whole rebellion in the first place. 

 

 

 

War - The only wars I can think of are with Sombra and the changelings and both are done in a very PG friendly way, many cartoons have battles etc.

Yes, it was pretty pg

 

 

 

Prosthetic limbs - Haven't seen this

Sombra timeline's Rainbow Dash has a prosthetic wing 

 

 

 

Nasty diseases, - Haven't seen this

 

They had it in the Comics, Spike and Zecora both were working on a cure since they weren't ponies. 

 

 

 

Self-harm - Just no.

 

 

Luna's Tantabus was made by her to punish herself for being Nightmare moon, giving her nightmares every night as a means of penance. That's pretty analogous for self harm. 

 

The show can have these themes and still run with the PG rating. If it were absolved of all things dark it wouldn't be any better than gen 3.5, and nobody wants that. The super hardcore grimdark themes are never going to be part of the show, but presenting serious issues in a kid friendly way is perfectly fine. 

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Thats a really cool story bro

You asked and I answered. 

[cider float 2,539]

It's an interesting and possibly very amusing prospect. Some of the above posts have mentioned episodes that could be interpreted as symbolically alluding to drug use, although I think the OP means a more direct reference to actual substances consumed with the intention of altering the users physical and mental state. If Hasbro permitted this I would presume it would need to be done in a very PG and toned down fashion while also being subtle in its approach to abuse and addiction. It's a very sensitive and controversial topic to put in place on a show with such a young target audience(even many bronies are still fairly young for the issue to have strong resonance with).

 

Personally I'm not totally convinced it would be a great idea. Especially since themes of obsession, peer pressure, and self reliance have already been explored thoroughly.

I think it's a good message to children to learn to control themselves. Being unable to control yourself is a problem you will encounter throughout your entire life not just from drugs.

[Roughshod 721]

You asked and I answered.

'That's a really cool story bro' is definitely how I would have replied a year ago.

 

I think it's a good message to children to learn to control themselves. Being unable to control yourself is a problem you will encounter throughout your entire life not just from drugs.

I think Inspiration Manifestation and Wonderbolts Academy both put emphasis on that idea fairly well.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

'That's a really cool story bro' is definitely how I would have replied a year ago.

 

I think Inspiration Manifestation and Wonderbolts Academy both put emphasis on that idea fairly well.

Don't i know it 

 

And I agree, Inspiration Manifestation in particular already hit the substance abuse topic. Plus TreeHugger is just a walking 420 joke waiting to happen as much as I love the mare lol.  

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,306]

I'd love to see an episode dealing with the issue of drug abuse, and the peer pressure that is often associated with drug abuse. After all they've dealt with the issue in various cartoons of the 80's and 90's. So why not have MLP deal with it as well.?

Why have MLP deal with it at all?  MLP needn't cater to a more adult crowd and isn't necessarily in a position to address every single problem under the sun.  Just because we're a member of this fandom doesn't mean that MLP absolutely has to be, indiscriminately, the mouthpiece for all issues imaginable.

 

but presenting serious issues in a kid friendly way is perfectly fine. 

And won't necessarily benefit the original, intended demographic in any immediately significant way; assuming that it ever does.  Bronies get to say, "Ohhh, they did an episode that only vaguely pertained to drug abuse; my inexplicable needs as an adult viewer of the show have been met."  And maybe, years from now, a young lady who saw the episode as a little girl will go, "Oh, that episode was about drug abuse?  I thought it was about ponies."  Hell, I'd be fine if the series abandoned the episode-to-episode moral-teaching altogether.

RD does not have an alcohol addiciton, at least not the same as real world addiction, otherwise she would be drinking every single day. 

I agree.

 

One: There's no irrefutable evidence in-show that the cider is even alcoholic; I don't care what anyone says.  The Apple Family (and co.) made barrels of the stuff on the spot during the competition against FlimandFlam.  Where and when the hell was it fermented?  Where'd the alcohol come from?  I guess they were using apples from the special naturally-alcoholic section of their orchard.

 

Two: What you already said.  Addicts this side of the universe either struggle constantly with their addiction or partake on a regular basis; this has never been the case concerning cider in-show.  I don't think they've even shown Rainbow drinking the stuff on-screen!  We know, as demonstrated by her enthusiasm, that she enjoys it, but we've rarely - if ever (I honestly don't recall any particular instance) - seen her actually imbibe in the show.  I wish this were how alcoholics functioned over here.  "Oh yeah, I love alcohol; I just never drink it.  Or, if I do, it's purely a seasonal thing."

Edited March 12, 2016 by Ziggy and Angelbaby

[Sapphire Lightning 784]

One: There's no irrefutable evidence in-show that the cider is even alcoholic; I don't care what anyone says.  The Apple Family (and co.) made barrels of the stuff on the spot during the competition against FlimandFlam.  Where and when the hell was it fermented?  Where'd the alcohol come from?  I guess they were using apples from the special naturally-alcoholic section of their orchard.

 

On top of that, the word Cider was changed in certain localizations because it refers to the alcoholic drink. In the US and Canada, it tends to refer to fresh pressed apple juice that hasn't been clarified.

 

 

Taken from the mlp wiki:

United Kingdom

◾The episode The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000 has not been broadcast as "cider" in the UK is an alcoholic drink; the equivalent to "hard cider" in the US.

◾In My Little Pony Equestria Girls, both instances of the word "cider" are muted for this reason too.

 

 

​http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/My_Little_Pony_Friendship_is_Magic/International_edits

 

 

 

 

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