Slashy 101 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 Like I'd imagine canonizing Lyra's fascination with humans would send cause the fandom to have a complete meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiko Gale 199 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 (edited) I honestly found the G3 joke in the Too Many Pinkie Pies episode to be sophomoric. EDIT: I'm not a fan of the previous gens myself...I probably should've saw that joke coming but by then it got old. And the previous gens are a bunch of seeds that help grow the series we know and love today. Edited May 2, 2016 by Emiko Gale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixie Heartstrings 434 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 It can. I can't think of any notable examples, but it can. It's funny that a discussion about pandering was made today, because I felt that episode was going out of their way to pander to me specifically XD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,515 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 When fanservice becomes fanpandering, then the line's crossed. EQG1's brony pandering throughout is the most obvious (and thus far, lone) example in the main series thus far. "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBaby 660 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 Honestly, I think it was a mistake for the show to ever pander to the fanbase. I think the creators should have just done what they wanted to do with the show and let the fans judge them on that. The worst thing you can do for creativity is to do everything everyone wants you to do. You get a mess of a creation when people can't agree on what they want to see. Instead, when you do what YOU want to do, that's when you create something truly memorable. 1 A Winner Is You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponies4Bronies 394 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 If they pander to fans it limits the possibility for new ideas and thus limiting the show. 1 Honey Wings, my love, my life, together forever. This picture is 20% cooler thanks to Twisted Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brony Lounge 102 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 I think fan pandering is fine as long as you don't break away from what the show is trying to say, also if you do it to often pandering loses its charm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarston1 5,960 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 (edited) When things begin to feel pretty forced and unnatural to the point that these references take away from the show's experience, such as the random appearances of Vinyl Scratch and Derpy in the latest episode as an example. Even though I really like the episode, seeing something like that in it felt really jarring and out of place, and something I don't want to see be repeated. Edited April 30, 2016 by cmarston1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanact 333 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 Probably, yes. I think the creators know that there is a line and thankfully they haven't crossed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marimo 555 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 (edited) Honestly, I think it was a mistake for the show to ever pander to the fanbase. I think the creators should have just done what they wanted to do with the show and let the fans judge them on that. When things begin to feel pretty forced and unnatural to the point that these references take away from the show's experience, such as the random appearances of Vinyl Scratch and Derpy in the latest episode as an example. Even though I really like the episode, seeing something like that in it felt really jarring and out of place, and something I don't want to see be repeated. So what if what everyone calls fan pandering is what they themselves wanted to do. What I mean is, Jim's been talking on Twitter about how they wanted to use Derpy and Vinyl. If they were going for fan pandering they would have used some other popular background pony like Lyra instead of Cranky. Edited April 30, 2016 by Marimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slashy 101 April 30, 2016 Author Share April 30, 2016 When fanservice becomes fanpandering, then the line's crossed. EQG1's brony pandering throughout is the most obvious (and thus far, lone) example in the main series thus far. Have you seen Slice of Life? I will let it be an exception as it was the 100th episode, but I really hope it never happens again. It greatly cheapens the value of the series if it is only good for memes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,515 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 Have you seen Slice of Life? Eeyup. One of S5's best. And, no, it's not fan pandering. The references have a purpose both tangibly and intangibly and don't detract from the story. 2 "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slashy 101 April 30, 2016 Author Share April 30, 2016 Eeyup. One of S5's best. And, no, it's not fan pandering. The references have a purpose both tangibly and intangibly and don't detract from the story. The musical number with DJ-Pon3 and Octavia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,515 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 The musical number with DJ-Pon3 and Octavia? Fanservice. Joke works because it's a light, loose, cartoon-logic-driven plot. 1 "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimi Vulpine 219 April 30, 2016 Share April 30, 2016 The last episode was pretty awkward with its fan service. 1 My OCs: Kimi Vulpine / Bluebell ------------------- Ask Kimi Anything! ------------------- Praise the Lord Comic Sans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leave a Whisper 703 May 2, 2016 Share May 2, 2016 A little fan service and nods here and there is fine, blatant fan pandering only screws it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiko Gale 199 May 2, 2016 Share May 2, 2016 The reason why I honestly dislike season 3 in general...So much fan pandering... And to be honest...I really want to like season 3...I didn't want to dislike a certain season of MLP:FiM...But I just do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concerned Bystander 2,904 May 2, 2016 Share May 2, 2016 'Slice of life' worked because it was a one of, it was a lot of fun squeezed into one outrageous helping of fan service, and it was awesome for it. Too much pandering though, would be horrible. People started watching the cartoon before there was an established fandom for a reason. If you then go on to take too much notice of what some of the fans want, then you destroy the original charm of the cartoon for everyone else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiko Gale 199 May 2, 2016 Share May 2, 2016 I like Slice of Life though...Sure it's fanservice but I feel it's (mostly) well written fanservice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Pip 775 May 2, 2016 Share May 2, 2016 Emiko Gale, on 02 May 2016 - 5:26 PM, said:I like Slice of Life though...Sure it's fanservice but I feel it's (mostly) well written fanservice. Funny thing about that episode, if you see the interview he was going to have the episode end with the mane 6 outside and it panning out to the sun with changelings flying in and ending the episode there lol. That'd have been hilarious but it'd prolly scare off the little girls who watch the show. Make them paranoid of the next episodes when they don't address it and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,689 May 2, 2016 Share May 2, 2016 There can be a limit of where pandering can only go so far, that's like having an episode dedicated to only referencing the fans and not focusing on the story which a professional writer shouldn't do. Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manman20x6 359 May 3, 2016 Share May 3, 2016 What made me love this show is how it was made for little girls, but written so well that it was entertaining for adults too. If they rely too much on fandom nods and pandering, it detracts from that aspect of the show. Doesn't help that most of their attempts at pandering come off as forced and cringeworthy. It sometimes feels like the writers think that putting a popular background character in a scene automatically makes it funny. Also, Slice of Life sucked because it was literally nothing but pandering, with no real entertainment value of its own. The best example of this is the opening "joke", which is literally just Derpy saying "Muffin". Sorry, but that doesn't count as comedy. Imagine how someone who's binge-watching the show while avoiding all fan content (in order to avoid spoilers) would feel watching that episode. They wouldn't find any of it interesting or funny, just confusing. I SHIP FLUTTERSHY X BULK BICEPS SO HARD Also, I really like Cloudchaser's mane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,515 May 3, 2016 Share May 3, 2016 (edited) What made me love this show is how it was made for little girls, but written so well that it was entertaining for adults too. That's factually incorrect. FIM is a unisex, all-ages show, and it follows the same mindset as the Pixar films, Powerpuff Girls, the Disney films of the Golden Age and Renaissance, and lots of cartoons today like SU. Faust stated it isn't a "girls' show," and Thiessen remarked that quality has no demographic. Also, Slice of Life sucked because it was literally nothing but pandering, with no real entertainment value of its own. The best example of this is the opening "joke", which is literally just Derpy saying "Muffin". Sorry, but that doesn't count as comedy. Imagine how someone who's binge-watching the show while avoiding all fan content (in order to avoid spoilers) would feel watching that episode. They wouldn't find any of it interesting or funny, just confusing. SoL were a lot of things. "Pandering" isn't one of them. Of all the fandom-based jokes, Derpy's "muffin" is one of the only ones to fall short. It was trying to be an innocent apology joke, but it tried too hard. The rest (like SoL itself) were much better. Edited May 3, 2016 by Dark Qiviut "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiko Gale 199 May 3, 2016 Share May 3, 2016 Funny thing about that episode, if you see the interview he was going to have the episode end with the mane 6 outside and it panning out to the sun with changelings flying in and ending the episode there lol. That'd have been hilarious but it'd prolly scare off the little girls who watch the show. Make them paranoid of the next episodes when they don't address it and such. Glad it didn't end off like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Piranha 29,453 May 3, 2016 Share May 3, 2016 I have noticed more fanservice now than before, but I don't feel it's so overused that ruins the charm nor distracts us from the plot , at least the ones of DERP and Vinyl scratch were nice little jokes. I just hope they don't rely on them to make jokes in the future though . Slice of Life was fine, yes, it wasn't the best written episode for me, but it was fine because it was a celebration episode Sig by Discords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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