ILoveKimPossibleALot

[SteveMorison 404]

It seeems that this horsefamous youtuber is not who she seems. Artists, voice actors and editors who have worked for KP in the past are now coming out with their experiences of extortion. They would be punished for not being able to reach deadlines or attend meetings for her projects, even when work or school are a legitimate excuse, she has a way of roping her staff to end up doing far more work than she initially promised,using her "horsefame" to pressure lesser known artists into unrealistic expectations, who are tricked into thinking that working with KP will lead to more exposure, when in reality they were largely ignored when it came to credit for her projects. She's also in the past stolen assets from DHX for her artwork, as well as assets from other artists for her OC. There are artists such as Minty Root and Wubcake now coming out with their experiences of how badly treated KP's staff have been. More can be read about it here https://mobile.twitter.com/AnonKPLeaks?max_id=756880575709839360, this link provides people providing email and documental proof of KP's antics.

 

Admin, if this post breaks any defamatory laws connected with this site then I apologise and will accept the consequences.

Edited July 24, 2016 by DashBandicoot

[yeet 2,026]

I've heard some of this stuff before, actually thought this was old news :v

[Jeric 46,850]

You have to love fandom drama. Met her personally, she seems like an OK person. You see, that is the problem with the internet (and to a similar extent ... media). It is easy to be able to see the other person as not a human, imbued with characteristics we assign to them.

 

Hm. It seems Minty Root has issues with quite a few in the analysis community, not just KP. Curious.

[ph00tbag 108]

Hm. It seems Minty Root has issues with quite a few in the analysis community, not just KP. Curious.

 

Often, the most vocal opponents of toxic people in these kinds of things are at least a little toxic themselves. It happens at all levels of "celebrity," from the popular kids in high school to Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift.

 

Honestly, the best way to win in Hores Drama is not to play. Keep your head down and continue to have fun doing whatever you're doing.

[The Cynical Lone Wolf 615]

This totally explains why her animation, A Different Dispective, seemed a bit off paced and little unfinished

[Zantetsuken 364]

I very much enjoy when people who are so shitty like this finally get exposed. Many animators, community voice actors, and Ex-slaves of hers have all but declared war on her and rightfully so.

 

I guess I'll give my two sense on her seeing as how I find this disgusting. First off I'm not sure why her VOLUNTEER STAFF have to sign this huge 7 page NDA. I feel like this is kind of a big deal especially since these ppl are not getting paid.

 

Secondly, this woman sounds like a down right bitch who doesn't know how to treat staff. I'm sorry if I get a bit heated here but one of the things I hate seeing most is someone who exploits others and doesn't care about their own lives so long as she gets the deadline SHE wants.

 

Also I feel like the quality of her animation reflects the mistreatment of her staff. I saw her newest one and let me tell you, it was not good. The animation looked stilted and choppy in a lot of parts, tons of sound effects were missing, voice acting was sub par by pretty much everyone (even KP herself) but Ellemonty.

 

Well if KP gave her staff more time, they could have make something a bit more high quality.

 

In conclusion, after reading the things I've read If I'am to believe what is said about KP and I do because I've heard rumors like this in the past, I don't think she deserves a dedicated team like shes got. She obviously doesn't know how to treat the people who are willingly lending their, time, talent, and respect, to her. This is something I find particularity infuriating since these people are not getting paid, they are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, the least you can give them is your respect. NO, instead KP overworks these poor people, forces and pressures them to meet deadlines. She seems to disregard the fact that they have school and work and generally lives of their own, because all she sees is herself, no one else.

 

I hope KP will lose her staff and realize this as a learning experience. If you push and mistreat your staff too far, you wont have staff to push and mistreat for long. I'm just waiting for someone to make a KP exposed video at this point if one hasn't been made already.

 

This whole KP thing is just downright terrible. At least with the #HorseOrDie music drama a couple days back that was kind of fun to read through and I didn't take it too seriously. The concept of playing only pony music during DJ sets at pony cons is really just too stupid and silly to happen. Alot of big name brony musicians commented on the issue including ppl like SilvaHound and OdysseyEurobeat, the latter of which all but wrote a book on the subject. But it was still fun to read through, this drama just makes me mad and wonder how KP even amassed a team of people to work for her in the first place. 

Edited July 26, 2016 by Zantetsuken

[ponylaces 1,870]

I strongly dislike KP. Never liked her as an analyst/reviewer (if we could even call her that) but I also always had a feeling she did scummy shit. Anyone hear about the series Fluttershy's Baby? It's an ILoveKimPossibleALot radioplay that she helped create a couple years ago, now it seems she doesn't even want to be seen involved with it after all the time and effort the staff did. Lots of other drama stems off from her, and that's a big reason why I don't really like her as a person. She doesn't know how to treat her staff and she just seems like a rude person in real life considering how she treats people online. On top of that, I don't think she's even that dedicated to the show to be honest (well, aside from all the John De Lancie stuff). I feel like she's continuing doing videos just because she has so much fame in the community. But that's just my opinion.

 

I'm just waiting for someone to make a KP exposed video at this point if one hasn't been made already.

 

I've actually considered making some sort of KP exposed video filled with evidence, but I'll probably get tons of hate and I'd rather not get into the drama.

[Noandnoandno 100]

I'm starting to think that every part of community has some form of shady stuff behind it, especially when it comes to "horse famous" YouTubers, which is one of the biggest reasons why I avoid watching pretty much all of them and focus on the show and my own content. Especially when it comes to reviewers and analyzers I sense a big ego in them and self importance the fact community let's them get away with it is kind of sad. I never thought this about ILoveKimPossibleALot, but I could have been wrong too.

 

I've heard drama occur in almost every kind of thing PMV collabs? I've heard drama. Reviewers analyzers? Do you even need to ask?

 

As for ILKPA, I don't know, I don't know her much, saw some of her reviews and that was kind of it, I cannot judge a person properly. I will just say that I've come to a point where you REALLY can't trust anyone in this fandom, hell, on YOUTUBE who's somehow famous, just don't, there is a high chance a lot of them are not genuine, it's sad but it's just how the world is.

 

Overall, the healthiest thing to do in my opinion is not to have any one as Youtube famous or horsefamous as your secret idol or something along the lines of that. Don't trust anyone easily, this is a life lesson in general.

 

People on YouTube will present themselves very differently regardless how they are in real life, keep this in mind.

 

I hate judging people through drama, but I wuld like to say that any bad treatment  of animators or editors in a project sickens me greatly, it shows no appreaction for these skills.

Edited July 24, 2016 by HeavyWeaponsBaby

[Yummychickenblue 301]

I strongly dislike KP. Never liked her as an analyst/reviewer (if we could even call her that) but I also always had a feeling she did scummy shit. Anyone hear about the series Fluttershy's Baby? It's an ILoveKimPossibleALot radioplay that she helped create a couple years ago, now it seems she doesn't even want to be seen involved with it after all the time and effort the staff did. Lots of other drama stems off from her, and that's a big reason why I don't really like her as a person. She doesn't know how to treat her staff and she just seems like a rude person in real life considering how she treats people online. On top of that, I don't think she's even that dedicated to the show to be honest (well, aside from all the John De Lancie stuff). I feel like she's continuing doing videos just because she has so much fame in the community. But that's just my opinion.

 

I've actually considered making some sort of KP exposed video filled with evidence, but I'll probably get tons of hate and I'd rather not get into the drama.

There's already a twitter account doing exactly this: https://twitter.com/AnonKPLeaks

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Wasn't there some similar kind of "Brony YouTuber Exposed" kind of thing with someone else? Wasn't it AnimatedJames?

[Renzie 100]

Idiotic question - who is that?

[\/ 651]

Idiotic question - who is that?

Horse YouTuber. You can look her up. I believe she does some reviews/reacts and some other projects.

[NullAccount 287]

If you ask me, she is just a businessperson who does what it takes to get a paycheck at the end of the day. I've always been rubbed the wrong way by her. I honestly wouldn't care if her channel suddenly dropped in popularity, because then everyone would see what happens when the motivation of money goes away if she still creates. I'm pretty sure she talked about this issue in A Moment With Doctor Wolf.

[Noandnoandno 100]

If you ask me, she is just a businessperson who does what it takes to get a paycheck at the end of the day. I've always been rubbed the wrong way by her. I honestly wouldn't care if her channel suddenly dropped in popularity, because then everyone would see what happens when the motivation of money goes away if she still creates. I'm pretty sure she talked about this issue in A Moment With Doctor Wolf.

Making videos purely for paycheck? Sounds kind of sad, I understand being that one of motivations, but purely for that? I myself couldn't do that, and if I would my videos would be souless. Money is important, get fed and stuff, but when it comes to stuff like this it has to be a thing that personally satisfies you and makes you happy. That is how I see making videos anyway.

[The Cynical Lone Wolf 615]

I'm starting to think that every part of community has some form of shady stuff behind it, especially when it comes to "horse famous" YouTubers, which is one of the biggest reasons why I avoid watching pretty much all of them and focus on the show and my own content. Especially when it comes to reviewers and analyzers I sense a big ego in them and self importance the fact community let's them get away with it is kind of sad. I never thought this about ILoveKimPossibleALot, but I could have been wrong too.

 

I've heard drama occur in almost every kind of thing PMV collabs? I've heard drama. Reviewers analyzers? Do you even need to ask?

 

As for ILKPA, I don't know, I don't know her much, saw some of her reviews and that was kind of it, I cannot judge a person properly. I will just say that I've come to a point where you REALLY can't trust anyone in this fandom, hell, on YOUTUBE who's somehow famous, just don't, there is a high chance a lot of them are not genuine, it's sad but it's just how the world is.

 

Overall, the healthiest thing to do in my opinion is not to have any one as Youtube famous or horsefamous as your secret idol or something along the lines of that. Don't trust anyone easily, this is a life lesson in general.

 

People on YouTube will present themselves very differently regardless how they are in real life, keep this in mind.

 

I hate judging people through drama, but I wuld like to say that any bad treatment  of animators or editors in a project sickens me greatly, it shows no appreaction for these skills.

Thus my motto, "You can't trust anyone" comes into play.

Edited July 24, 2016 by COBLoneWolf

[Minty Root 41]

Hm. It seems Minty Root has issues with quite a few in the analysis community, not just KP. Curious.

 

Oh, that.

 

To make it short, I joined the Rift Café a long time ago because I was curious to meet reviewers and to discuss about the show with them.

I was an animator, yeah, but why couldn't I discuss about what I liked about the story and the characters.

 

That's pretty much how I got to meet and befriend many people from the analysis community, unlike most animators and VAs who don't even bother to talk to them.

 

Then the rest of the story can be summed up with what I posted on my Tumblr recently.

 

Some analysts treated me like garbage.

They didn't care if I was the one doing the hard work, that I was having a hard time in life or that my projects were not as good as I hoped because I had problems on my way.

No, it was all about being a personality. I didn't want to be a personality; I have a stupid accent, I don't have any vocal range and I have a boring face.

I just want to make stuff move to move people.

 

I'm not the only one who was hurt in that story, I'm just one who went public about it.

[Noandnoandno 100]

A

 

Oh, that.

 

To make it short, I joined the Rift Café a long time ago because I was curious to meet reviewers and to discuss about the show with them.

I was an animator, yeah, but why couldn't I discuss about what I liked about the story and the characters.

 

That's pretty much how I got to meet and befriend many people from the analysis community, unlike most animators and VAs who don't even bother to talk to them.

 

Then the rest of the story can be summed up with what I posted on my Tumblr recently.

 

Some analysts treated me like garbage.

They didn't care if I was the one doing the hard work, that I was having a hard time in life or that my projects were not as good as I hoped because I had problems on my way.

No, it was all about being a personality. I didn't want to be a personality; I have a stupid accent, I don't have any vocal range and I have a boring face.

I just want to make stuff move to move people.

 

I'm not the only one who was hurt in that story, I'm just one who went public about it.

s I've fucking said,  some analysts are egoistical fuckin' pricks

 

Sorry to hear you had to deal with that shit. Sounds awful. No one should be treated that way.

[Slashy 101]

Honestly at this point I'm worried for her. I don't think she is right in the head.

Edited July 25, 2016 by Slashy

[BlinkZ 1,151]

I never liked her videos. She seems os self center and her VERY fast paced editing just seme like 'oh look at all these images don't look way. She never went into any detail about episodes like say DrWolf or Silverquill.   She always come across as being a bitch to be fair.

[RainCode 61]

What I'm more concerned about in this situation is the fact that her demands are over the top and there does not appear (from what I see) much respect for the volunteers who are and were involved.

First off, there did not appear to be any respect for a particular animator who supposedly had a family emergency (it sounded serious) in a fairly old video she had put up on YouTube in regards to an animation not being done in time. While she might have been joking around, it is definitely disrespectful, especially with the "hate mail" parts and the blaming (note that the video is public with over thousands of views and that KP mentioned their username along with their contact methods). Caring more about the content that are produced by others out of generosity rather than the people who are involved? Alright then.

Second of all, the volunteers who KP tries to get to come along and join her team are expected to do a lot of work. One of her journal entries was asking for an artist who is able to draw up a considerably large volume of vector images (around 40 to 50) within one or two weeks. It generally sounded like a paid role. This will take up a lot of time.
There are even more works that would be equally straining or possibly even more for larger projects, especially for other roles such as animation.
Yes, there are volunteers who are willing to do the large amount of work unpaid but considering the first major point, it doesn't sound like a great idea.
One thing I should mention is that according to a leaked document, there's a strike system that states that you would get striked if deadlines aren't met.
The deadlines are typically very short for the amount of work that needs doing. Works done that have used up a lot of time can end up being redone (many times) if they aren't seen as good enough. Have I mentioned that it's unpaid work?


There is a lot more information (including details and proof) but I will leave it to the dedicated Twitter account previously mentioned in this thread for that. I'm only highlighting the respect side of things in terms of time, life situations, and value in a volunteer's work.


I would like to be proved wrong as the above text tells me that she doesn't deserve a team at all (not the only one saying that too). For now however, this is what I see from only just a bit of research I had done. And let me say: this drama is really proving to be effective with all the responses (including the "horse famous") and the very evident posts provided by those who claimed to be ex-staff.
KP hasn't appeared to have commented on the drama (publicly) as of the time of posting this.


If this is all true, I do hope that KP is aware that there should be more respect and that the working-hard-on-tight-schedule thing should really only be done for those who actually would gain decent profit from it at the end. Heck, Patreon would be a good help for that. (There's issues in regards to asset theft so if that's also the case then that should be sorted as well but that's besides the point.)

Quick thing: I watched her videos in the past. I was never a fan of the videos, one of the reasons being that it's rushed-looking. There were some good videos but.. yeah. Nothing special here.

 

Morning edit: I should throw out that I personally don't like getting involved in drama, especially if it's something that's potentially controversial. Although I'm not the one being harmed here, I do feel that others should be aware in attempt get things changed if needs be. I never had any beef with KP.

That is all I would like to say as of now.

[easymac 106]

I have had lunch and dinner with her (at two different cons) and I didn't recognize her, or had any idea who she was. 

If I am being honest I haven't really cared much for the analyst community since about 2013...

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

Whenever I hear about a supposedly "horse famous" individual on the forums, it's usually the first time I've ever heard of them.  And if they're an analyst / reviewer, I don't care about their content anyhow; I'd shed no tears if the Brony analyst community, as a whole, dried up overnight.

[Edgeworth1001 648]

Not gonna lie, I honestly think that a lot of analysts (mind you, I'm using the word loosely) are missing the point of why we love this show and the sense of community it brings. I'm not just referring to KP here, I'm talking about the majority of the people in that circle. Those who come here mainly for the attention, do not deserve anyone working under them for free.

 

Good on Minty Root and AnonKPLeaks for speaking out.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

Okay, I've gone and subjected myself to some of ILoveDiscordKimPossibleALot's content, and I have to say...

 

She's f****** boring.  Why is...  How'd she get any kind of famous?  She basically relies on others for practically EVERYTHING, and she's automatically the least entertaining - and least talented - part of anything she's involved with.  It's one thing if several people collaborate on a project and everyone brings something to the table.  It's another thing if the inexplicably central character or personality (and she has none to speak of) has nothing to offer of his or her own.  I would call her the Adam Sandler of the fandom, but at least Sandler recognizes talent when he sees it and gives his friends a leg up where he can.

[Rawzy 1,302]

I only know her from Bronies React, she's the one that never says anything funny yet they keep getting her on the show, typical bland unfunny girl.