New changling form

[StarNote 231]

Does any pony but me think the changelings new forms are weird and stupid type what you think about it i think its horibble especially for me a half changeling   :crackle:  p.s gust had to use this emojie too funny 

[BastementSparkle 20,334]

Plenty of people think they look weird, ugly, or dumb. For various reasons.

 

 I personally like them. They aren't as threatening as they used to be, for sure. But they manage to somehow look cute, beautiful, and yet also strange and alien at the same time. Their color schemes are even kind of based off of some insects, I believe, that's pretty cool.

 

Still have no idea what's up with Thorax's antlers though.

[StarNote 231]

ya i guess 

 

thorax horn thing tough, i think means he is the leader like how all the princesses  have wings and horns 

[TBD 17,262]

Hate it. 

 

Here a thing, changelings are like the rejects due to their scary appearance and their deformation. Thorax disguised himself because not only he is a changeling but he will be judge for his appearance. Once anypony see a changelings they will automatically be scared of them and not just on their bad history with the equestria. Having said that, the transformation allows  them to be more "glamorous" and less deformed. 

 

Get the massage?  This clearly just stated to be ashamed who you are and the appearance you are initially  born with. 

 

i rather have them in a different shade of dark color but still keeping their old looks, because that what make a changeling a changeling. Also I hoped that QC will produce more of the old changeling to be her new army unlike the ones that betrayed her. 

Edited November 30, 2016 by Satrox

[StarNote 231]

I don´t know i think the message was nomadder how you look you should still have love? can you tell what i am saying 

[Holiday Agnaktor 1,436]

I like their new form. I don't think they meant to say that you should be ashamed of your form at all.

What this reminds me of, is butterflies. They were weird scary caterpillars at first, but now they're all pretty butterflies, one of 'em with antlers.

It's like they finally grew up. I think that the changelings stopped transforming after Chrysalis sorta made 'em be all scary and love-sucking and all.

[TBD 17,262]

I don´t know i think the message was nomadder how you look you should still have love? can you tell what i am saying 

Love is one thing...but having to change your appearances is other thing. They can still have love even if they're ugly.

 I think that the changelings stopped transforming after Chrysalis sorta made 'em be all scary and love-sucking and all.

 

its their initial looks. QC is born with it, thus her offspring will too. It not like they can't help it by the way they're  turn out. 

[StarNote 231]

I like their new form. I don't think they meant to say that you should be ashamed of your form at all.

What this reminds me of, is butterflies. They were weird scary caterpillars at first, but now they're all pretty butterflies, one of 'em with antlers.

It's like they finally grew up. I think that the changelings stopped transforming after Chrysalis sorta made 'em be all scary and love-sucking and all.

I totally agree   i like the butterfly thing is a good way of stating it 

[Holiday Agnaktor 1,436]

 

 

its their initial looks. QC is born with it, thus her offspring will too. It not like they can't help it by the way they're  turn out. 

 

I meant, changelings have always looked like changelings when they were born, but they stopped maturing when Chrysalis took over, because she was against all that.

[Glacies Frost 428]

Love is one thing...but having to change your appearances is other thing. They can still have love even if they're ugly.

 

its their initial looks. QC is born with it, thus her offspring will too. It not like they can't help it by the way they're  turn out. 

 

I'm going to try to address this, though all I've seen are the new designs and have only that to go off of, so forgive me if I'm off about this. This appears to be what I like to call the "writers making internal change more obvious by making it external too" syndrome. That is to say that in order for the target audience (ie small children between the ages of 4-7) to more easily get the moral that people can change the way they behave and their entire way of life if they so choose. The external changes, the new colors and appearance, are to make it exceedingly obvious that the Changelings that follow Thorax aren't the bad guys anymore. I know it comes off as a facelift to look more pretty (and I'm sure that point of view has some validity as it's harder to take a Changeling's original appearance seriously as a good guy from a kid's perspective), but I think there is a little bit more to it than is being given credit for.

 

Now, do I like it? Uh... meh. It's alright. I wasn't a huge fan of the original designs anyway, so this doesn't really bother me all that much.

[TBD 17,262]

 

I meant, changelings have always looked like changelings when they were born, but they stopped maturing when Chrysalis took over, because she was against all that.

 

I don't think having QC surpassing them got to do with them not "maturing" to  transform. QG is consider a mature changeling and yet she still look less appealing.   Since love is their main food source despite how they'll obtain it, it shouldn't effect their appearance. Even if they are matured they will still end up like QC.

 

I should take out the part "surpassing them" since QC is working her ass off to try to give her people food source to survive. 

 

apparently when thorax show them a different way to obtain food sources they change completely. That is just absurd.  which lead back to my first statement. 

Edited November 30, 2016 by Satrox

[Holiday Agnaktor 1,436]

 

 

I don't think having QC surpassing them got to do with them not "maturing" to  transform. QG is consider a mature changeling and yet she still look less appealing.   Since love is their main food source despite how they'll obtain it, it shouldn't effect their appearance. Even if they are matured they will still end up like QC.   I should take out the part "surpassing them" since QC is working her ass off to try to give her people food source to survive.    apparently when thorax show them a different way to obtain food sources they change completely. That is just absurd.  which lead back to my first statement. 

Where exactly does the show tell us that Chrysalis is a mature changeling? They never really mentioned any of this in the show.

Also, it was about them giving love out of free will to mature, which Chrysalis never let anyone do.

 

Well anyway, since the show doesn't really make things clear, I don't think this discussion is going to go anywhere.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,983]

The designs themselves are decent, they have their own cuteness to them even if I somehow found the original designs cuter. The issue I have is with the odd colors. I just don't get it. I guess they just wanted to make them seem a lot brighter, but the color choices are strange and I really, REALLY liked the old colors. They were very nice on the eyes.

 

So the overall design I am fine with, it is just the colors that are weirdly weird.

[StarNote 231]

I'm going to try to address this, though all I've seen are the new designs and have only that to go off of, so forgive me if I'm off about this. This appears to be what I like to call the "writers making internal change more obvious by making it external too" syndrome. That is to say that in order for the target audience (ie small children between the ages of 4-7) 

 

 

Ages 4-7 i think more adults or teens watch it then 4-7 years old 

The designs themselves are decent, they have their own cuteness to them even if I somehow found the original designs cuter. The issue I have is with the odd colors. I just don't get it. I guess they just wanted to make them seem a lot brighter, but the color choices are strange and I really, REALLY liked the old colors. They were very nice on the eyes.

 

So the overall design I am fine with, it is just the colors that are weirdly weird.

i agree the colors are outragous 

[Glacies Frost 428]

Ages 4-7 i think more adults or teens watch it then 4-7 years old 

i agree the colors are outragous 

Well, to be fair, I did say "target audience." Arthur is for kids around those ages and I still like that show.

[StarNote 231]

good point 

it is still awsome no mader what age it is made for

Well, to be fair, I did say "target audience." Arthur is for kids around those ages and I still like that show.

[TBD 17,262]

Where exactly does the show tell us that Chrysalis is a mature changeling? They never really mentioned any of this in the show.

Also, it was about them giving love out of free will to mature, which Chrysalis never let anyone do.

 

 

I figured that  QC is fully grown and able to produce offspring  is considered a mature changeling. I never heard such thing about a non-matured Queen running the hive.  I don't want to sound  like a jackass in group discussion but all I'm saying is  I think the cause of the transformation is just another typical friendship is magic hoax.  It has got nothing to do with maturity.   

 

 

Well anyway, since the show doesn't really make things clear, I don't think this discussion is going to go anywhere.

Agreed.  which is  fair enough, you keep what's  yours and I will keep what's mine. 

Edited November 30, 2016 by Satrox

[Missklang 1,054]

I dislike how they look in the show, but my friend Neon managed to draw her changelling OC's reformed form pretty nicely:

 

[Foxy Socks 2,601]

I love them. I like the old one too, but the new ones are also cute.

[Goat-kun 2,530]

We lost the most iconic group of villains in G4 and gained telebuggies. They better make a bunch of hugely successful merchandise out of this, cause if it was all done just for some crummy narrative, I’m gonna need to find a way to convey my smug, condescending laughter in a visual manner, especially if GoH changelings get more shit done than woobies and woobie accessories.

 

Changelings

 

April 21, 2012 – October 22, 2016

 

Buzz eternal, shiny and black

[cmarston1 5,960]

I actually kind of like the new designs.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one who does.

[Weetile 19]

Can they still change though? None of the Changelings have actually been shown to change, and Queen Chrysalis is the only changeling to still have the old changeling form. The changelings are now "good", so there would be no need to change forms in order to deceive people.

[cider float 2,539]

Yeah the old forms were better there was no need to change their appearance like that. Not sure how long the history of the changelings went but still makes no sense for Starlight an enemy of them to convince them they could suddenly up and change their ways. I mean there would be a lot of them still holding a lot of contempt for ponies after that last battle in Canterlot.

Edited December 4, 2016 by cider float

[BlinkZ 1,151]

'Buy our toys' and thus slap any bunch of colours together and hope the kiddies go "ooo pretty"

I really don't like the colour combos...ugh it about as bad as the outfits they wear in Rainbow rocks or Camp Everfree just slap any colours and shapes together.

Personally I could find the old designs cute at times. Can those 'new' changlings even change shape anymore...eh whatever I'm using chanlging verson 1.0 for fanfics no ugly changlings for me

Edited December 19, 2016 by BlinkZ

[Regent 77]

Can they still change though? None of the Changelings have actually been shown to change, and Queen Chrysalis is the only changeling to still have the old changeling form. The changelings are now "good", so there would be no need to change forms in order to deceive people.

 

It's a shame either way. I rather liked Thorax's pony form.

 

Love is one thing...but having to change your appearances is other thing. They can still have love even if they're ugly.

 

 

its their initial looks. QC is born with it, thus her offspring will too. It not like they can't help it by the way they're  turn out.

 

Thorax was able to be a normal changeling and a decent person. With any other changeling, they had to metamorphose first, then they were good. Why didn't Thorax change right away when he first learned to both give and receive love? Why was the metamorphosis necessary for the others? The only answer that makes sense is that perhaps changeling figures weren't selling well with the target demographic: little girls.

 

The opposite of this is Starlight Glimmer. She was beautiful and evil, and I loved that. She was also perhaps the mane-six's strongest foe, despite not being an alicorn or some kind of monster.

 

Now she's just misguided. Perhaps Hasbro didn't want to sell toys that could send the message that evil could look good... so let's just make her good, and let's make the reformed baddies look good too, because good always has to look good, and evil has to look evil, just so that there's no mistake that Hasbro isn't promoting the Dark Side as a viable choice with no physical consequences.