health Who is autistic?

[Paleopony 701]

On 2021-04-20 at 6:11 AM, Fluttershyfan94 said:

I believe that in modern society a lot of people like to label themselves. Some to have victim points, some for attention and others who genuinely are affected by it putting the label to explain. Mainly I say this as anyone who knows autism would know that in most cases it is no joke there are many levels of it. I believe everyone literally everyone can identify with some of the asperger or autism spectrum. People can claim they are autistic just having slight communication problems this would be a level one autism. You have the level two being repetitive actions and this I would say is autism as you do this action to ground yourself. Then you have level three and that is where you start to need more support that is. 

I have autism I already know that aspergers and autism in general although I also have hyperactivity so really I can not say that it affected much unless you think needing to flick a lightswitch certain amount of times somehow prevents you from living daily life. My main trouble is sounds and visuals as they upset me to the point of needing to block it out entirely as is why I loved having headphones and phones are definitely an autist friend I would say. Of course though it is by no means preventing me from living my life on daily basis while it is difficult you learn to pretty much use it to your advantage such as being super interested in things can really help you in school.

Yes, there really are some people out there who use the label for attention but were not officially diagnosed. The vast majority of those with autism just use it to explain themselves to people. It is unfortunate that there are a tiny minority of people posing as autistic for social media attention and the like, and it gives away to neurotypicals the impression that autism is simply a fad diagnosis that is passed out willy-nilly to people who are just nerds or a little strange. However, in reality there is a threshold for how many of the traits you need in order to be diagnosed with the condition. A couple peculiarities do not indicate autism. Having actual difficulties with social interaction and routines or highly focused interests or differences in processing sensory information are the basic characteristics of autism. However, it is rare for a person to have every single trait to extreme degrees like autism is depicted in the media. Every autistic person is affected differently, and no two people have exactly the same experiences.

[Twilight Sparkle97 402]

The person who is posting here right now. 

[Old Accnt. 3,149]

I have it
my issues come in when I'm demanded of too many things I also have a hard time understanding what people feel or are saying which is why I actually dislike texting a lot also miscommunication is a norm for me i also won't speak the way i want to when I am stressed or in a situation I'm not used to which gives people a wrong idea of my intentions so i want to say this but I feel stressed so it comes out differently and now people think i'm poor or whatever they think i hate that this happens which is why I doubt I will have any lasting friendships anytime soon

[Theautisticrebel 304]

I was diagnosed with autism when I was 2.

[Faerie-StarV 49]

I am also autistic. I don't really share it out to the public and only reveal to people I trust.

[Twitchy-Tremor 297]

I have autism and about a dozen other things. I got all the bad traits and my sister got all the good ones.

[Pony Flutters 535]

I am, right here. There are pointlessly detrimental negative traits that go with the autism I have such as terrible socialization.

[Envy 6,162]

I think there's a good chance that I'm mildly autistic, but I don't want to self-diagnose. I talked to my therapist about it, she gave me a checklist and it came out very likely, but she's not authorized to give me real tests and diagnose me and said I would have to find someone who specializes in it to test and that it would be expensive. I decided against doing that testing for the time being for various reasons, but it is on my mind a lot whether or not I'm autistic. So many of my traits would make sense if so. However, I must note that I'm already confirmed neurodivergent in terms of being ADHD, and there seems to be some overlap, making clearing this up even more difficult.

Someday, I hope to find out. But not right now with me needing to save every penny to move and also, just really don't want another reason I'm different diagnosed the way the world is right now.

[Twitchy-Tremor 297]

Well the only problems I’ve had is social problems and school problems. I was in almost all special classes. Throughout middle school and high school. In grade school I had an iep but that just took a few words off the spelling list and shortend worksheets. 
And socialy I had a hard time around people and it just got worse and worse untill going into a grocery store without having panic attacks and breaking down. I’ve gotten much better with that but it’s still not the greatest with it.

[Winter Storm 239]

I've been trying to go to conventions to overcome my social difficulties but I am still having a lot of trouble with it. In my experience I find there are two different types of people with high functioning autism (or aspergers although apparently that diagnosis has fallen out of use for some reason), one type is very talkative sometimes to the point of being too open about things and not giving others enough opportunity to speak. The other type like myself is extremely quiet and has trouble not being closed off to others. It honestly makes me very depressed at times because my flaws here keep me from achieving goals that are important to myself and I don't know how I can fix myself.

[Ocarina_Lullaby 23]

The most difficult part of asd for me is that I fall into a thin line between people believing I'm neurotypical because I do not have a visible disability (usually older people), or everyone around me avoiding me because they perceive me as strange (usually people around my age or younger). The first is awful because their tolerance to my behavior is lower. If I stim and lack eye contact I've been asked if I'm on drugs or they will take it personally offensive and disrespectful. The latter is awful because in those cases, I'm usually masking and attempting to act like the people around me. I seem to fail because of the feedback I've received. I've gotten a lot better with accepting the fact that not everyone is going to treat me how I would like or at least fairly.

[Snow 7,034]

On 2024-04-11 at 7:58 AM, Ocarina_Lullaby said:

The most difficult part of asd for me is that I fall into a thin line between people believing I'm neurotypical because I do not have a visible disability

I hear that! exactly the same for me, I was diagnosed pretty young and while my case is only mild I still find myself a little behind the curve but with no tangible excuse in the eyes of others, I sometimes feel I've got no choice but to go though life with a handful of problems associated with autism/ASD but none of the support 

[Arrlong28 789]

I was diagnosed in 2020 when I was 31 years old... 

Being in the spectrum is... not good.

You're basically don't have the natural "information" about how to deal with the most DANGEROUS animal on earth: Humans.

I was bullied in the school at atrocious levels: my parents didn't care about me because they though I DESERVED that.

Then I had my first depression in an Asian country when I though things will get better, but was Worse to the point my parents kicked me out of my home... I had to sleep for one week in a field full of Ticks (was summer, if not I will be DEAD 'cause of my respiratory problems) 'cause I was afraid to sleep in the streets of my town, until I rented a garage to live in with all the money I had. 

And this is not a story about "a man made himself". I lived in a Studio, then a store before my mom realized thanks to the diagnosis that it wasn't exactly my fault (still she thinks that anyway...)

And now I live in a 1845 home with a state pension, I can't work, Iv'e never had a partner and that destroys me from the inside (because it means being myself is shit) in a world when I'm just the problem.

In a world when other people do better than me because they're being a really bad people and pretend they're a good people; so they have the advantages of both...

And in the pandemics I had this strange half Psychotic Break when all my problems related to autism just flipped to the other side. It was the worst pain I experienced in my life and lasted almost a year.

Now I have a LOT of empathy and I don't know how to turn that OFF. Sometimes, this thing about knowing how other person is going to feel (or feel with is feeling) it's cool with you're friends but makes me don't know ho am I... Because you feel feelings of other people and know how they react is like living in a "Hive mind" that unite us all...

And I just can function with my brain full of chemicals.

At least I can feel something that is not sorrow and constant pain.

And I have to be "happy" with little things, something that looks like an excuse when people that bullied you and caused all of this problems are people that work on TV, have 5 million subscribers in youtube lying to people, or just living life that look's great. And the only thing a therapist can tell you is "but in reality they're living a very bad life" 'cause that is going to feel you better, not 'cause it's real...

If reality is like the Republic of Plato, when your soul chooses it's life: I choose very poorly. Maybe if reincarnation exist (I wish not...) I'm going to be more cautious at time of choosing.

I'm autistic? Yes

I'm proud of it? Absolutely not. It's not something to be proud of.

It is, and that's all.

[returned_dragon 136]

1 hour ago, Arrlong28 said:

Now I have a LOT of empathy and I don't know how to turn that OFF. Sometimes, this thing about knowing how other person is going to feel (or feel with is feeling) it's cool with you're friends but makes me don't know ho am I... Because you feel feelings of other people and know how they react is like living in a "Hive mind" that unite us all...

How interesting. 

Is this something that ever happened to you before around 2019-2020 or whenever it was?

[Arrlong28 789]

15 minutes ago, returned_dragon said:

How interesting. 

Is this something that ever happened to you before around 2019-2020 or whenever it was?

Never happened to me before.

My therapist (a specialist about Asperger Syndrome) and they team told me that sometimes, people with autism (remember: you don't have the "information" or the pieces of how to "behave" and function with other humans) that realize and understand how "humans work" in an emotional way, they suffer a "flash" of information.

So you take the underground and now you realize all the non-verbal communication that was not there before.

Before I could take the underground or a train with no problems. Now, I have a LOT of information about people around me and is disgusting. Take's me a lot of effort.

If I'm travelling with friends or somebody I can talk and have my attention in that person: then it's easier again because i'm focused and I don't perceive all the non-verbal information other people give me.

 

As I feel It: I think we are very sensible to those things to the point is so painful that our bodies just Stop dealing with those sensory things.

For me, I felt like I was "entering" in some "Hive Mind" made by all common humans and I realized that reality is not what it is.

We are in relation with other people and our environment.  

But I don't know where the reality starts and the "hallucination" or "Spirituality" ends. 

All I know it's that there was a very big change when that happened. Now I deal with other people very easily. I'm more happier, I reunited with other people and now we are true friends...

 

[returned_dragon 136]

21 minutes ago, Arrlong28 said:

My therapist (a specialist about Asperger Syndrome) and they team told me that sometimes, people with autism (remember: you don't have the "information" or the pieces of how to "behave" and function with other humans) that realize and understand how "humans work" in an emotional way, they suffer a "flash" of information.

What they are saying here is "You're experiencing anomalous cognition which probably invalidates most of our theories and the scientific method in general, but here is some advice anyway. Your prescription will help alleviate some of the symptoms of whatever is actually the matter with you."

[Arrlong28 789]

39 minutes ago, returned_dragon said:

What they are saying here is "You're experiencing anomalous cognition which probably invalidates most of our theories and the scientific method in general, but here is some advice anyway. Your prescription will help alleviate some of the symptoms of whatever is actually the matter with you."

I met some people on the spectrum that suffered similar things as me. Not so strong, but the realization of non-verbal communication is a traumatic experience for all of us.

[returned_dragon 136]

15 minutes ago, Arrlong28 said:

I met some people on the spectrum that suffered similar things as me. Not so strong, but the realization of non-verbal communication is a traumatic experience for all of us.

 

One explanation I heard is that most people communicate in a subject-to-subject manner, while certain people on the spectrum handle a dialogue with another human in a subject-to-object manner. The implication at least according my understanding is that while a conversation between two 'normal' people proceeds via a semi-interrogative exchange of verbal and non-verbal cues pretty much in the way you would expect, some autistic people at times perceive and exchange information with others in a way that is totally different. They go on to say that people with autism/Asperger's might represent a kind of "road not taken" in general human cognition/communication.

What does that even mean? "There's a small chance that genetic mutation/inheritance/prenatal/environmental conditions will combine in a unique fashion to make you into something like a mutant from the X-men in a pattern that is not only viable for you to continue living, but also allows you experience 1/1,000,000,000,000 chance events that break our models in a similar way to other people just like you." 

Maybe I'm experiencing 'cognition problems' myself, but I find it a little unlikely.

[Arrlong28 789]

1 hour ago, returned_dragon said:

 

One explanation I heard is that most people communicate in a subject-to-subject manner, while certain people on the spectrum handle a dialogue with another human in a subject-to-object manner. The implication at least according my understanding is that while a conversation between two 'normal' people proceeds via a semi-interrogative exchange of verbal and non-verbal cues pretty much in the way you would expect, some autistic people at times perceive and exchange information with others in a way that is totally different. They go on to say that people with autism/Asperger's might represent a kind of "road not taken" in general human cognition/communication.

What does that even mean? "There's a small chance that genetic mutation/inheritance/prenatal/environmental conditions will combine in a unique fashion to make you into something like a mutant from the X-men in a pattern that is not only viable for you to continue living, but also allows you experience 1/1,000,000,000,000 chance events that break our models in a similar way to other people just like you." 

Maybe I'm experiencing 'cognition problems' myself, but I find it a little unlikely.

I don't understand your point or what are you trying to say.

[returned_dragon 136]

1 minute ago, Arrlong28 said:

I don't understand your point or what are you trying to say.

 

I don't know either. 

Maybe it is something along the lines of "The things you and others experienced seem to contradict the framework of the theories being made to describe it."

[Arrlong28 789]

6 minutes ago, returned_dragon said:

 

I don't know either. 

Maybe it is something along the lines of "The things you and others experienced seem to contradict the framework of the theories being made to describe it."

Do you know that you are being too passive-aggressive from the first post you have written?

I have only explained and shared my experiences as a person diagnosed as autistic. I do not think I deserve that treatment.

[returned_dragon 136]

I think you may be misunderstanding me: I'm agreeing with you!

[Arrlong28 789]

2 minutes ago, returned_dragon said:

I think you may be misunderstanding me: I'm agreeing with you!

Sorry, my bad.  Yeah, those are weird experiences but there's a lot we still don't know.

[Lucky Fire 137]

i'm autistic. what used to be known as Asperger's Syndrome, but it's now all under one umbrella, called Autism Spectrum Disorder. i hate being autistic. it always gets me into trouble, nothing good has ever come of me being autistic

[Slumberlumber 90]

Bruh! I'm on the spectrum! Love love love meeting others like me here! Especially when the wider society can get...oppressive at times. Gotta keep the mask up or you'll be judged (learned how to do it to such a degree that most people don't know I'm autistic). Gotta keep the quirks in check until your around other people you know jus to avoid judgement and suspicion. It sucks, hard.