I am conflicted about the new generation.

[Star Petal 215]

On one hand the movie was amazing, but on the other hand, this has SERIOUS implications for G4. The story basically means that everything twilight sparkle and her friends did, the royalty, Discord, the school of friendship and all the adventures they went on were basically meaningless. Twilight Sparkle ultimately failed and I don't know how to feel about that. 

[FearTheBelle 55]

The time of the Mane Six is so long ago that it is considered ancient. Everything in and about a society can change given that much time. The world being broken in G5 doesn't mean the Mane Six failed or that what they did was meaningless. They made the world better in their time, and (presumably) for at least a few generations after. That's far more than most will ever accomplish.

[Will Guide 21,360]

26 minutes ago, FearTheBelle said:

The time of the Mane Six is so long ago that it is considered ancient. Everything in and about a society can change given that much time. The world being broken in G5 doesn't mean the Mane Six failed or that what they did was meaningless. They made the world better in their time, and (presumably) for at least a few generations after. That's far more than most will ever accomplish.

Exactly. I already said before in another topic how in our long human history we gone through golden ages of prosperity and dark times of troubles. It's like how in The Legend of Zelda series we only play the part of the history of Hyrule where there's troubling times but presumably there's always been nice long periods of peace between games. Long enough for the landmarks to shift around for the next game. Same thing applies here with Equestria.

If you ask me Anyone claiming that "what Twilight and her friends went through was meaningless or pointless" is missing the point

[Megas 27,628]

It's been so long between G4 and G5 that it's a simple matter of everything being lost to time

Spoiler

of course the other option is to retcon the last few seasons

 

[Star Petal 215]

Yeah, but 1000 years ago is ancient history to us and celestia and luna were basically in their 30's when twilight took over. She had to have lived at least two thousand years and for even more time to be beyond that is hard to believe that they are not walking on other planets by then. lol. 

[JMTV99 1,353]

Well, the point MLP A New Generation is showcase new characters in a new world that was different from G4. The G4's lore in G5 were mostly secondary material.

I'm pretty sure it'll answered the questions once the G5 series comes out, but for now, all we can do is speculate.

[hihii 0]

True but im not gonna lie its still sad to think all that they did, the whole purpose of g4, has been and will continue to be for the forseeable future lost to time unless sunny continues to make revelations. like so far we've only seen 3 main cities compared to the tens of cities and towns that g4 explored but maybe some although renamed are still standing in some way shape or form

[Cash In 22,313]

I understand what you mean, but things do change in time. Within a period thousands of years, it's expected for the world and everything around it to be vastly different and basically unrecognisable to what we know. Doesn't mean that the G4 characters failed. Things just changed.

[Evil Pink One 13,506]

6 hours ago, Star Petal said:

On one hand the movie was amazing, but on the other hand, this has SERIOUS implications for G4. The story basically means that everything twilight sparkle and her friends did, the royalty, Discord, the school of friendship and all the adventures they went on were basically meaningless. Twilight Sparkle ultimately failed and I don't know how to feel about that. 

yes it all becomes meaningless if no one is to succeed it.... that's why I'm happy that TWILIGHT'S hardship was not in vane!

because sunny took the succession!!!

[Evil Pink One 13,506]

this have Jesus reference and hero reference....

they died for you to have this future...

and what do we do? sunny is one good example to follow! become the next hero!

[Steve Piranha 29,424]

5 hours ago, Star Petal said:

Yeah, but 1000 years ago is ancient history to us and celestia and luna were basically in their 30's when twilight took over. She had to have lived at least two thousand years and for even more time to be beyond that is hard to believe that they are not walking on other planets by then. lol. 

That’s all speculation. No one knows all those timeframes, let alone strictly stated in canon

[Star Petal 215]

The only reason this isn't a cyberpunk future space travel series IMO is because civilization had to fall and fall really hard at some point and i think we are seeing them built their civilizations back up to just a little bit above where they left off. G4 being equivolent to the 80s or maybe the 70's before computers but stuff like turntables existed and now they have smart phones and computer tech. 

Only question is, if Equestria girls was set decades further into the future than their pony counterparts as far as tech goes, and thousands of years went by, does that mean that the new equestria girls will be set in a future where star trek tech is the norm?

[Pentium100 2,122]

19 minutes ago, Star Petal said:

G4 being equivolent to the 80s or maybe the 70's before computers but stuff like turntables existed and now they have smart phones and computer tech. 

I don't think G4 was equivalent to the 80s. More like the 30s. On the other hand, G4 was very inconsistent in its technology. Of course, it could be that with magic the ponies could skip some of the steps needed to reach the higher technology levels, also, maybe the combination of earth pony magic and their desire to grow food the old fashioned way reduced the need to industrialize the food production. While snail mail was commonly used, there was also a magic way to get letters fast (since Spike sending a letter to Celestia did not look strange to anyone, magic way of sending letters quickly was, presumably, common).

G5 appears to have been without magic for a long time, so they had to go through the steps necessary to have higher technology level and also industrialized more things because they needed to.

[Monsoon 1,662]

I feel conflicted as well but for some different reasons. The main cast doesn't seem to be as likeable as the G4 cast to me. The animation is really weird too Imo. While I'll still probably watch it, it will be with less enthusiasm.   

[Evil Pink One 13,506]

2 minutes ago, Alpharius said:

I feel conflicted as well but for some different reasons. The main cast doesn't seem to be as likeable as the G4 cast to me. The animation is really weird too Imo. While I'll still probably watch it, it will be with less enthusiasm.   

aww that sucks.

gen 4 made gen 5 bad for you.

 

[Monsoon 1,662]

11 minutes ago, Kujamih said:

aww that sucks.

gen 4 made gen 5 bad for you.

 

Not really. I still enjoyed it and like some of the characters like Izzy and Sunny but In comparison to G4 it seems to be lacking for me. If for whatever reason it doesn't get better 1 or 2 seasons in I'll probably not watch it and re-watch G4 etc. And then binge G5 after it ends.  

[Evil Pink One 13,506]

1 hour ago, Alpharius said:

Not really. I still enjoyed it and like some of the characters like Izzy and Sunny but In comparison to G4 it seems to be lacking for me. If for whatever reason it doesn't get better 1 or 2 seasons in I'll probably not watch it and re-watch G4 etc. And then binge G5 after it ends.  

wise choice indeed... that's what I did with gen 4.

but I have to give big credit to gen 5

I mean you are putting it against gen4.

gen 4 has lots of movies and 9 seasons.

and gen 5 only has 1 movie.

and to get this much love and this much hype..... DAMN gen5!

keep this up and they'll have no problems beating gen4.

plus I love how much respect and thought they gave to gen4 and especially to us bronies in the movie. it's like a love letter to us. saying we haven't forgotten about you.

 

 

[Govorov 35]

I feel okay with G5,but I will still say F- words if the G4 story isn't well resolved and became a bare stunt in the coming seasons.

[Ganondorf8 11,308]

What happened between G4 and G5 is something that has happened throughout history in both real life and other forms of fiction. Peace is achieved yet it only lasts a short period of time before something happens that changes it. I was disappointed the movie didn't go into more detail regarding how the pony tribes cut ties with one another but I hope the upcoming series makes a good effort towards providing an explanation. After all, we got that first scene as a final farewell to G4 so leaving that unanswered would set a bad precedent.

[Evil Pink One 13,506]

1 hour ago, Govorov said:

I feel okay with G5,but I will still say F- words if the G4 story isn't well resolved and became a bare stunt in the coming seasons.

don't jinx it! we got lucky on the movie already!

Bing Bong!

Edited September 28, 2021 by Kujamih

[TotallyNotGrogar 11]

Something that always struck me as odd when watching the finale of FiM is just how easily Chrysalis seemed to turn everypony against each other. Maybe those underlying feelings existed for a long time, even during the Equestria that we knew, and some other catastrophic event overthrew Twilight's government and caused all sorts of chaos. I think it's a little harsh to say that everything in FiM was in vane.

That said what was a bit sad to see is how low the unicorns fell during these times. Clearly the pegasi were doing the best, followed by the earth ponies, but the unicorns seemed to live in the middle of the forest in a very sad looking community. I guess we'll have to wait for the series to start and hopefully shed some light as to why this rupture occurred. for starters the movie greatly exceeded my expectations, I was expecting a crummier version of the (not so great imo) G4 movie, but instead we got a nice, fun movie to kick this generation off. 

 

Edited September 28, 2021 by TotallyNotGrogar

[Rainbow Dash 1,472]

I too am conflicted. 
 

22 hours ago, Steve Piranha said:

hat’s all speculation. No one knows all those timeframes, let alone strictly stated in canon

Was it speculation? I thought it was "an old fillies tale" which is how the nightmare moon arc was painted, or at least, presented to us.

It defiantly seemed like something AFTER Twilight's time happened and pony kind went back to when they fought, only it was more isolation due to fear. Also seemed like it was going on for a few generations of ponies.

The characters werent stand out-ish like Gen 4's but they did stand out for better or worse. Im just gonna call it now and say Hitch is going to be the new Spike aka comedic sidekick. 

[Evil Pink One 13,506]

7 minutes ago, Rainbow Dash said:

I too am conflicted. 
 

Was it speculation? I thought it was "an old fillies tale" which is how the nightmare moon arc was painted, or at least, presented to us.

It defiantly seemed like something AFTER Twilight's time happened and pony kind went back to when they fought, only it was more isolation due to fear. Also seemed like it was going on for a few generations of ponies.

The characters werent stand out-ish like Gen 4's but they did stand out for better or worse. Im just gonna call it now and say Hitch is going to be the new Spike aka comedic sidekick. 

lol hitch as spike? you should watch gen 4 again.... 

[Steve Piranha 29,424]

I'm fine with it. Unfortunately, a reality in life is this:

 

which is a natural cycle that has been prevalent within many civilizations. I imagine Equestria wouldn’t be an exception. However, since that was so long ago, we can imagine the times of Twilight and the rest of the Mane 6 created lasted for a LOOOOOOOOONG time. Hell, so long the ancient station below Zephyr Heights was long forgotten, and the tree pony tribes were still getting along. And also, while today Equestria is not doing so well due to segregation, Twi’s lessons served as inspiration to “Make Equestria Great Again” 

 

EDIT: Oh, that acronyms to “MEGA” 

Edited September 28, 2021 by Steve Piranha

[Evil Pink One 13,506]

MEGA!!!...............