Minimum post lengths

[!Surprise! 1]

Well the only reason the posts are getting better is because we're being forced 100 characters, really.

 

Well the only reason the posts are getting better is because we're being forced 100 characters, really.

 

*Braces self for hate*

[HomuraBL 851]

: Sweetiebelle is my favorite! I love her cute high pitched voice and swirly adorable hair!

That isn't a good example though. That isn't enough info for sweetie belle, you could describe a lot more about Sweetie belle. Also, Pinkie also has swirly hair and high pitch voice. So that would mean Pinkie was that person's favorite also.

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

That isn't a good example though. That isn't enough info for sweetie belle, you could describe a lot more about Sweetie belle. Also, Pinkie also has swirly hair and high pitch voice. So that would mean Pinkie was that person's favorite also.

 

That's a good point. I think the minimum post length should be increased to 500 characters. Think of how descriptive and victoryfull everypony's posts will be! Never before will we have had the opportunity to say so much about so little.

[XUNUSEDXXX 3,459]

I like the character limit just the way it is. It makes me think about what I should write rather than just a few words.

[Caitlin Spark 142]

I agree with scootabloom it does allow us to think a little more and to use creativity with our posts

[Azura 1,107]

I don't feel like using my brain while posting.. Not that I didn't before this was implanted..

 

I can't believe this thread is still alive after all that time.

[brian577 120]

I don't mind the decision to have minimum post length as annoying as it can be, but there is something that concerns me. And that is when anyone challenges this oh so wonderful decision they seems to be more often than not attacked even when they provide examples where it doesn't really work. I haven't been on this board long but it seems like descenting opinions (particularly when it comes to the mods decisions) are hunted down and shot.

[HomuraBL 851]

That's a good point. I think the minimum post length should be increased to 500 characters. Think of how descriptive and victoryfull everypony's posts will be! Never before will we have had the opportunity to say so much about so little.

 

I could deal without the sarcasm. I was pointing out that he could be a bit more descriptive. I also pointed out why its good to be descriptive and what happens if you don't.

 

He said that Sweetie belle was his favorite character because of her high pitch voice and swirly hair.

 

The problem with this is that Pinkie also has a high pitch voice and swirly hair. So by that logic, Pinkie's his favorite too.

 

He could have easily delve into what he liked about Sweetie belle's personality to have easily avoid this problem.

[Somebody 570]

Another bad news for you, we got a whole set of wacky characters that can increase this counter and be invisible at the same time! Just hold your alt button and press some certain sets of numbers! What are these sets of numbers you ask? Just google it up for yourself

 

Instead of going through all that, wouldn't it be easier just to come up with a few more words to fill out the required limit? Honestly, for me, those situations usually require five extra words or less. That takes about three seconds to come up with, and it often inspires me to make a separate point I would not have even thought of otherwise. Just my two bits, though.

 

I don't mind the decision to have minimum post length as annoying as it can be, but there is something that concerns me. And that is when anyone challenges this oh so wonderful decision they seems to be more often than not attacked even when they provide examples where it doesn't really work. I haven't been on this board long but it seems like descenting opinions (particularly when it comes to the mods decisions) are hunted down and shot.

 

I don't think anyone is trying to claim that a perfect solution exists... but the fact of the matter is that the advantages such a decision brings will outweigh the burden of posting a couple more words. Just look at all those well-written complaint posts about it... they're all at least a thousand characters long. A hundred characters can't possibly be unreasonable--the few times it might hinder a very simple post is a small price to pay, if it means inspiring people to post far more than they would have otherwise.

 

I don't think making a rebuttal to someone else's point can really be called an attack, though. Back-and-forth like that is what debate is all about.

 

I've disagreed with the staff on a few occasions, but I was never attacked for it. In fact, if you look at the thread about the new warning points system, they're actually taking suggestions from users! I have to say this is the first forum I've ever seen to openly take user suggestions on new policies like that. Most sites just roll out stuff like that and say "We put this in, you live with it. End of story." During my time of adminning a forum, that's what I did... admittedly that's why I quit doing it. I can confidently say this site is managed far better than my site was.

Edited August 24, 2012 by Questio

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

Here's a crazy idea: accept the fact that some people just don't have a lot of interesting things to say. Forcing them to speak longer will not increase the "quality", just the quantity. People with interesting things to say will say them in however many (or few) words they need.

[Crispy 5,563]

...Why is this still a thread? It's been the same rehashed arguments on both sides since page three. Nothing more needs to be said.

[HomuraBL 851]

Here's a crazy idea: accept the fact that some people just don't have a lot of interesting things to say. Forcing them to speak longer will not increase the "quality", just the quantity. People with interesting things to say will say them in however many (or few) words they need.

 

While it is true that a 100 word bad quality is never as good as a 50 good quality.

 

But wouldn't you agree that an 100 word sentence with the same amount of quality as the 50 word sentence is better? If they have something interesting to say, then find other points to make in the interesting thing.

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

But wouldn't you agree that an 100 word sentence with the same amount of quality as the 50 word sentence is better?

 

Not really. It just means that they're compelled to yammer on unnecessarily once they've made their point.

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

Sweetiebelle is my favorite! I love her cute high pitched voice and swirly adorable hair!

(89 chars.)

 

Well Sweetie Belle is two words actually xD

 

"Sweetie Belle has to be my favorite, I just love her cute high pitched voice, and her adorable swirly hair too!"

(111, just this sentence. I didn't count the rest of the post)

 

I just said the same thing, but made it longer, instead of "is" I said "Has to be" added a "just" between "I" and "love" and I added a "Too" in the end. Didn't change it drastically but enough to make it count as a post :3

 

Not really. It just means that they're compelled to yammer on unnecessarily once they've made their point.

 

Well, the post gets deleted, they receive a warning that says not to do that again, and then it's up to them whether or not they want to do that again, they can continue fully aware that they're breaking the rules, or they can just try to improve the quality in their posts.

[Street Comedy 327]

I can't believe this thread is still alive after all that time.

 

Any Canterlot Castle thread started by Zoop lasts till

A. People run out of things to mindlessly complain about.

or

B. The thread is locked out of sheer pity.

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

Well, the post gets deleted, they receive a warning that says not to do that again, and then it's up to them whether or not they want to do that again, they can continue fully aware that they're breaking the rules, or they can just try to improve the quality in their posts.

 

I think you missed my point, which is this: in real life, it is usually better to be clear and concise. The longer you take to say anything, the more likely it will be ignored or misconstrued. This is my main reason for seeing a character limit as not only unnecessary, but counter-productive.

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

I think you missed my point, which is this: in real life, it is usually better to be clear and concise. The longer you take to say anything, the more likely it will be ignored or misconstrued. This is my main reason for seeing a character limit as not only unnecessary, but counter-productive.

 

Well, that's up to the reader not the poster, and it's best for the poster to have posts that actually show like he took his time to type, if the reader ignores the post, it'll be his own problem.

 

I honestly don't see a reason on why to include a TL;DR version of everybody's post just so certain people won't have to read through-out all of it >.>

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

Well, that's up to the reader not the poster, and it's best for the poster to have posts that actually show like he took his time to type, if the reader ignores the post, it'll be his own problem.

 

I honestly don't see a reason on why to include a TL;DR version of everybody's post just so certain people won't have to read through-out all of it >.>

 

Although that's a nice thought, you'll find that in life, other people don't automatically consider your opinions to be as worthwhile as you do. I'm not trying to be mean by saying that...just stating it as a reason why it's important to be brief the first time you say something. Establishing forum rules that require the opposite just seems misguided or unrealistically optimistic to me.

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

Although that's a nice thought, you'll find that in life, other people don't automatically consider your opinions to be as worthwhile as you do. I'm not trying to be mean by saying that...just stating it as a reason why it's important to be brief the first time you say something. Establishing forum rules that require the opposite just seems misguided or unrealistically optimistic to me.

 

Like I've said before, their problem, the poster will finish it's job, if people don't consider the post worthy of their time, not the poster's problem, if they decide to post afterwards saying something, missing out information from the poster, the poster will most likely get their attention for that.

[Twiliscael 3,960]

People are still fighting this? It's over a month old! Shut up and accept it, or get up and move on. It's not that big of a deal...

Maybe for once more than a handful of members will be able to make a quality post instead of a 3 word "I like it!" type response. This is a forum for DISCUSSION and if you want to discus, you should have AT LEAST 2 sentences worth of points, views, and opinions. This post took me exactly 47 seconds to type to this point.

 

Boohoo, I just lost 47 seconds of my life. Wait, I'm on the internet. All you do is waste your life on the internet :3

Edited August 24, 2012 by Twilie'Zorah

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

(a very long sentence)

 

I'm not sure I follow. Consider rewording your argument, or structure it in a way that's actually coherent.

 

People are still fighting this? It's over a month old! Shut up and accept it, or get up and move on. It's not that big of a deal...

Maybe for once more than a handful of members will be able to make a quality post instead of a 3 word "I like it!" type response. This is a forum for DISCUSSION and if you want to discus, you should have AT LEAST 2 sentences worth of points, views, and opinions. This post took me exactly 47 seconds to type to this point.

 

Boohoo, I just lost 47 seconds of my life. Wait, I'm on the internet. All you do is waste your life on the internet :3

 

My favorite part is how you berate people for debating this topic, and then you immediately proceed to provide your opinion on this topic. Thanks for trying, though.

[Twiliscael 3,960]

My favorite part is how you berate people for debating this topic, and then you immediately proceed to provide your opinion on this topic. Thanks for trying, though.

 

As the administration has said multiple times, it isn't changing and their's not much else anyone can do about it. I'm just trying to tell everyone to stop complaining. The admin himself said that it's his site, he can do what he wants with it, and it is entirely his decision. If you don't like it, you can leave. That's the way it is.

 

I just realized how much of a d!ck I sound like right now, but I'm just laying down the law facts.

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

As the administration has said multiple times, it isn't changing and their's not much else anyone can do about it. I'm just trying to tell everyone to stop complaining. The admin himself said that it's his site, he can do what he wants with it, and it is entirely his decision. If you don't like it, you can leave. That's the way it is.

 

I just realized how much of a d!ck I sound like right now, but I'm just laying down the law facts.

 

Well look at you! Suddenly very interested in articulating an opinion on the matter. To follow your argument to its logical conclusion: if you don't like this thread, you can leave. That's the way it is.

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

I'm not sure I follow. Consider rewording your argument, or structure it in a way that's actually coherent.

 

If the reader misses out information the poster said, then it won't be the poster's problem.

[Twiliscael 3,960]

Well look at you! Suddenly very interested in articulating an opinion on the matter. To follow your argument to its logical conclusion: if you don't like this thread, you can leave. That's the way it is.

 

Well look at you! Trying to degrade me and distract me from my argument!

 

I can't seem to find the exact quote but Feld0 himself has said that the forums are his website. Imagine it as a party. If his party is a rock and roll party, but you want a trance party, you have no right to try and change it. If he wants to, he can change it, he can keep it the way it is, he can kick you out, he can end the whole thing, and so on and so forth.