mega thread Everypony's Religion And Why?

[PeachPalette 1,000]

Oh, ok.

 

Just out of curiosity...do pagans ever worship the Judeo-Christian God along with their other deities?

 

Personally, I do not. But that doesn't mean that other Pagans do not either. I wouldn't know though. I'm not a member of any religious gatherings of people. Kinda keep to myself and do my own thing. I can't say that they would though considering the religious views clash a bit (in my opinion anyway).

Edited April 13, 2012 by PeachPalette

[Esmeshy 58]

I'm an atheist. I've never felt drawn to any religion and never felt there was something bigger, spiritually, that human's don't understand. I feel the only things out there are in the fields of science which we will discover in due course. Also, I don't agree with a lot of the morals that religions adhere to and, due to my lifestyle and who I am, I would never fit in or be able to follow their rules.

 

I respect people's religion and their right to follow it. I always allow someone to put their ideas forth and will never condemn them or accuse them of being wrong but it's just not for me. I am not a spiritual person and I never will be. But feel free to express it if you are.

[SoundFlux 13]

must say this is a special thread, i'd like to come out and say what the hay im believing/worshipping but the part about it is i dont know if people would look differently at me for it, so im going with atheist for now.

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

must say this is a special thread, i'd like to come out and say what the hay im believing/worshipping but the part about it is i dont know if people would look differently at me for it, so im going with atheist for now.

 

You can tell me :V

 

Chances are you wont be judged by anyone here. Unless you're Christian, then you'll be judged by all the intolerant little kids on the forums who think all Christians are copy/pastes of the ones they find in their local community.

[SoundFlux 13]

You can tell me :V

 

Chances are you wont be judged by anyone here. Unless you're Christian, then you'll be judged by all the intolerant little kids on the forums who think all Christians are copy/pastes of the ones they find in their local community.

 

you got a point there,

in that case scenario i'd suggest Satanism is being put up on the board. ^.^

 

that was wierd.... but somehow SUCH a relief! >.> thanks.

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

you got a point there,

in that case scenario i'd suggest Satanism is being put up on the board. ^.^

 

that was wierd.... but somehow SUCH a relief! >.> thanks.

 

Hehe. I can see why you were hesitant to say your beliefs. You worship the being 4 billion people fear and detest xD

 

Though I suppose with all the emerging New Age religions, it's not as uncommon as it once was for someone to worship Satan.

[Whiteshade 1,426]

you got a point there,

in that case scenario i'd suggest Satanism is being put up on the board. ^.^

 

that was wierd.... but somehow SUCH a relief! >.> thanks.

 

As long I'm not a human sacrifice im fine with that

[Simcity11100 772]

Atheist, "Penn and Teller BS: The Bible" made me one.

[Ashbad 969]

Devout Catholic, on my own will. I'm open to other beliefs and theological/scientific thinkings, though; for example, I don't think evolution is fake, and I'm not a stereotypical Catholic Democrat either. I try to let my religion influence what I think of the world, but I also allow to let the world influence my thinking on religion.

[Marelin 38]

Roman catholic reporting in.

 

Why? Baptism when I was small and naked. While I'm following my own path, I'm still one of them on paper. The reason for that is simple. It's a reminder of my past.

[D1SC0RD 987]

"Since it's obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the only reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong."

-- Christopher Hitchens

 

Thoughts like these were the foundation for my atheism, and it has only grown from there.

Hopefully I didn't just subject myself to a flame war...

[Whiteshade 1,426]

"Since it's obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the only reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong."

-- Christopher Hitchens

 

Thoughts like these were the foundation for my atheism, and it has only grown from there.

Hopefully I didn't just subject myself to a flame war...

 

I would refute that quote, obviously the religions contradict each other, but they are all born from faith, which is present in every person

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

"Since it's obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the only reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong."

-- Christopher Hitchens

 

Thoughts like these were the foundation for my atheism, and it has only grown from there.

Hopefully I didn't just subject myself to a flame war...

 

I wont start a flame war but I think that's a very illogical way of thinking.

Everyone believes what they believe, and they each believe themselves to be right, so that makes them all wrong? I don't see the logic there. If we applied that logic to throughout our life then we would be saying "you're all wrong" every time there were conflicting opinions or controversy. There's no logic in that.

Edited April 16, 2012 by Lady Rarity Pony

[HomuraBL 851]

I have a question for you atheists. Just a simple question.

 

When you die, and if you see God, how would you feel? Just asking like I said.

[Whiteshade 1,426]

I have a question for you atheists. Just a simple question.

 

When you die, and if you see God, how would you feel? Just asking like I said.

 

I would laugh

[Envy 6,156]

I wont start a flame war but I think that's a very illogical quote.

Everyone believes what they believe, and they each believe themselves to be right, so that makes them all wrong? I don't see the logic there. If we applied that logic to throughout our life then we would be saying "you're all wrong" every time there were conflicting opinions or controversy. There's no logic in that.

 

Right, but with the very nature of religion and the way they portray their deities, the split in religions throughout the world doesn't really even make sense. Everybody believes their religion to be the one true one and that everybody else's is false. Not a single religion has any advantage in terms of evidence. People pretty much believe in whatever religion their region of the world follows.

 

There is not even a sliver of evidence for any of them, yet everybody believes in their own just as much as the other believes in their own. It makes so much more sense for all of them to be wrong than one of them being right. And no, not more than one of them can be right. They vary substantially.

 

The way I see it, if there is a God that reveals itself to the people of Earth, it's a trickster God that is not worthy of anybody's worship. And yes, people of all religions feel like their specific deity/deities have spoken to them. It makes so much more sense for revelations to be our brains fooling us than for any God to actually be real. I don't think any real loving God would have let religion fraction out as much as it has.

 

I have a question for you atheists. Just a simple question.

 

When you die, and if you see God, how would you feel? Just asking like I said.

 

"So, I was wrong? LOL. Oh well, you weren't worthy of my worship and never would be anyway!"

 

That is unless it is some God that only functions for having an afterlife and has nothing to do with the creation of our universe and life and religion.

[HomuraBL 851]

Right, but with the very nature of religion and the way they portray their deities, the split in religions throughout the world doesn't really even make sense. Everybody believes their religion to be the one true one and that everybody else's is false. Not a single religion has any advantage in terms of evidence. People pretty much believe in whatever religion their region of the world follows.

 

There is not even a sliver of evidence for any of them, yet everybody believes in their own just as much as the other believes in their own. It makes so much more sense for all of them to be wrong than one of them being right. And no, not more than one of them can be right. They vary substantially.

 

The way I see it, if there is a God that reveals itself to the people of Earth, it's a trickster God that is not worthy of anybody's worship. And yes, people of all religions feel like their specific deity/deities have spoken to them. It makes so much more sense for revelations to be our brains fooling us than for any God to actually be real. I don't think any real loving God would have let religion fraction out as much as it has.

 

 

 

"So, I was wrong? LOL. Oh well, you weren't worthy of my worship and never would be anyway!"

 

That is unless it is some God that only functions for having an afterlife and has nothing to do with the creation of our universe and life and religion.

 

You do know what the word belief means right?

 

Let me explain. I can believe I'm superman. Do I have evidence supporting this? No.

 

You can argue all you like about how wrong I am, but I can still believe I'm superman.

 

And you do realize its impossible to believe in all religion at once right?

 

The way you put it, it sounds like thats what you want people to do.

 

Also, many people have different reasons for "Belief."

 

Lets say someone's mom dies. What do you think is better to think about? Her going to heaven or oblivion.

 

Also, I don't mean to sound rude, but you are sounding incredibly biased.

 

And whats that about having a deity spoken to them? Not a single person I know who believes in god says that. And trust me, I live in a place where christens are everywhere.

Edited April 16, 2012 by RaccoonBL

[Whiteshade 1,426]

Right, but with the very nature of religion and the way they portray their deities, the split in religions throughout the world doesn't really even make sense. Everybody believes their religion to be the one true one and that everybody else's is false. Not a single religion has any advantage in terms of evidence. People pretty much believe in whatever religion their region of the world follows.

 

There is not even a sliver of evidence for any of them, yet everybody believes in their own just as much as the other believes in their own. It makes so much more sense for all of them to be wrong than one of them being right. And no, not more than one of them can be right. They vary substantially.

 

Ouch, that is way too harsh

Its a bold claim to render so many people as wrong, and I don't think this can even be considered in the way you are arguing it

Your method is quite mathematical, that is since religions claim the same value, yet contradict each other, they are mathematically impossible and wrong

But keep in mind that in your text you actually got your own answer, that is, the statement that each person has their beliefs and faiths, albeit different. Are they wrong because they are differ, are inconsistent, deviant from the statistically established average? I would like to believe that they are not collectively wrong, but rather collectively right, and I can support that with the fact that people argue FOR their values and beliefs, which indicates that they do genuinely believe in them, in what in their mind is right.

 

Lets say someone's mom dies. What do you think is better to think about? Her going to heaven or oblivion.

 

of course heaven would be favorable over oblivion, however note that oblivion would be favorable over hell

 

its not honest to advertise the good stuff while omitting the bad, that is called propaganda

Edited April 16, 2012 by Whiteshade

[Envy 6,156]

You do know what the word belief means right?

 

Let me explain. I can believe I'm superman. Do I have evidence supporting this? No.

 

You can argue all you like about how wrong I am, but I can still believe I'm superman.

I'm really not sure where you are coming from with that...

 

And you do realize its impossible to believe in all religion at once right?

 

The way you put it, it sounds like thats what you want people to do.

No, I want religion to be tossed aside.

 

But people can and will believe whatever they want. I don't believe force is a good thing.

 

My post was a clarification of the idea that since not all religions can be true, it's unlikely that one would be true either. Or my personal interpretation, anyway!

 

Also, many people have different reasons for "Belief."

 

Lets say someone's mom dies. What do you think is better to think about? Her going to heaven or oblivion.

 

Also, I don't mean to sound rude, but you are sounding incredibly biased.

 

And whats that crap about having a deity spoken to them? Not a single person I know who believes in god says that. And trust me, I live in a place where christens are everywhere.

"Biased"?

 

By the way, it's not 'crap'. It's a real phenomenon. Some people do believe because of what they have interpreted as personal revelations or their deity/deities speaking to them.

 

It's not something that you will usually find among people you know. I do believe it has to do with the brain completely so it's rare. Of course some people experience this through drugs, but you'll even hear it from people who have died and have been brought back to life. There was this book recently written about this boy that died (or went into a coma, I don't recall exactly) and during that time he said he met Jesus and Jesus spoke to him.

 

Ouch, that is way too harsh

Its a bold claim to render so many people as wrong, and I don't think this can even be considered in the way you are arguing it

Your method is quite mathematical, that is since religions claim the same value, yet contradict each other, they are mathematically impossible and wrong

But keep in mind that in your text you actually got your own answer, that is, the statement that each person has their beliefs and faiths, albeit different. Are they wrong because they are differ, are inconsistent, deviant from the statistically established average? I would like to believe that they are not collectively wrong, but rather collectively right, and I can support that with the fact that people argue FOR their values and beliefs, which indicates that they do genuinely believe in them, in what in their mind is right.

 

I'm not questioning that the sincerity of their beliefs. The opposite, actually.

 

I'm not looking at it mathematically. I'm looking at it from which position that would put the higher power in that is allowing all of this to happen.

 

I mean, if God were real, I think at the very least he'd at least want to make sure that there was one religion. Maybe with a few different interpretations, but still one worldwide religion. But it's wrong for a loving God to condemn the majority because they don't believe in the right religion. And guess what, religions like Christianity do just that. The requirement for getting into heaven is accepting Jesus Christ as your savior. You'll go to hell otherwise.

Edited April 16, 2012 by Envy

[Dany Heatley 160]

I have a question for you atheists. Just a simple question.

 

When you die, and if you see God, how would you feel? Just asking like I said.

 

you don't. You rot in the ground. Your life is over. Deal with it.

 

Lol jk about the "deal with it" part, but the rest I stand by

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

I mean, if God were real, I think at the very least he'd at least want to make sure that there was one religion. Maybe with a few different interpretations, but still one worldwide religion. But it's wrong for a loving God to condemn the majority because they don't believe in the right religion. And guess what, religions like Christianity do just that. The requirement for getting into heaven is accepting Jesus Christ as your savior. You'll go to hell otherwise.

 

Christian denominations vary greatly but to say all Christian denominations believe someone "goes to hell for believing in a 'wrong' religion" is completely absurd and is in fact contradictory to a majority of official Christian teachings.

[Mare in the Moon 173]

Equestreism! Or in other words, I don't really have one.

 

I just try to be the best person I can be. In the end I believe thats really all that matters. Living life to its fullest.

[Whiteshade 1,426]

I mean, if God were real, I think at the very least he'd at least want to make sure that there was one religion. Maybe with a few different interpretations, but still one worldwide religion. But it's wrong for a loving God to condemn the majority because they don't believe in the right religion. And guess what, religions like Christianity do just that. The requirement for getting into heaven is accepting Jesus Christ as your savior. You'll go to hell otherwise.

 

First point: given such a god, multiple heavens can probably be created in the time it takes to finish a coffee. Just sayin'

Second point: I partially refute that. I am agnostic, so yes religion gets very annoying when it starts to impose, but I believe that is human activity that causes that, in particular human exploitation of religion for gains or for ego.

[HomuraBL 851]

you don't. You rot in the ground. Your life is over. Deal with it.

 

Lol jk about the "deal with it" part, but the rest I stand by

 

The question was, how would you react? The question isn't weather you believe or not, its how you would react if it did happen.

 

 

StUFF!

 

When I said crap, I meant how you applied everyone who believes in god gets a message from him.

 

For the most part, you seem to hate how you can go to hell for not believing in the right religion. LRP has been telling me the opposite of what you keep telling people.

 

When I said biased, heres what I meant. Throughout this entire thread, the only atheist I get rifled up at is you. For one thing, you seem to act as if Christians is religion in general.

 

Another thing, religions like Christians? Wouldn't that still be Christians?

 

Now I can get some of your stuff, but really, it seems more like you want to listen to stereotypes.

 

First point: given such a god, multiple heavens can probably be created in the time it takes to finish a coffee. Just sayin'

Second point: I partially refute that. I am agnostic, so yes religion gets very annoying when it starts to impose, but I believe that is human activity that causes that, in particular human exploitation of religion for gains or for ego.

 

Heres another thing. I hate how some Atheists say that we are the bad guys. But they are always the ones on the internet I see start the flame wars...I don't believe all atheist are like that, but both atheist and theist have their bad people and I'm tired of people not seeing that.

[Harebrained 39]

I think the easiest thing to say would be that I simply am not affiliated with any religion or stance on the subject at this point. I was raised in a Christian household but never took to it, and wandered aimlessly throughout my teens until I started reading about Taoism, which was very important to me for a year or so. Eventually, I ran into some difficult philosophical disagreements and felt that it wasn't really something that could be applied to modern life as I know it, as well as worried that I was doing a terrible job practicing it knowledgeably and respectfully. Haven't really had anything since.