ScottishUnicorn 285 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 Well with every major undoing there is a consequence, I can tolerate these people after they are imprisoned for treating another human being like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyreth 194 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 It is always possible but whether it is always a good idea is debatable. Would you love and tolerate Hitler if he was still around? In any case, loving and tolerating everyone is a logical impossibility. There are many cases where tolerating the actions of one party would put the safety of others in jeopardy. There have definitely been people in my life that I have decided don't deserve my love but is that just an error in my judgement? In some cases I'm sure it was but people have acted badly towards me for no reason. But maybe they do have a reason, maybe they just need to be shown some kindness. Does that apply to everyone though? Is anyone inherently evil? This could go really really deep but I don't think there is a solid answer. I can't make signatures. Sooo... yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttershy4life 151 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 It's possible, probably one of THE hardest things to do but it's possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 891 January 23, 2012 Author Share January 23, 2012 Would you love and tolerate Hitler if he was still around? I wouldn't love him but I could tolerate him, he did manage to get Germany out of recession in a matter of years, something that we could use now. And he was a good speaker, it would be great to have someone as good as him speaking against SOPA and those other acts. 1 I'd like to thank the MLP Vector Club for the images used in my avatar. Known as "Princess Mi Amore Cadenza", "Trixie the Great", "Tom" and "Tomzoid the EggDroid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Misty 654 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 No there is a limit. I am not going to love and tolerate someone who murders their own children. I am not going to love and tolerate someone who tortures others for their own benifit. siggy by PixiGlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Rarity Pony 4,894 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 Ugh, don't let my thread make you hate people Love and Tolerate everyone. That doesn't mean to be stupid and try to be friends with someone who will hurt you or stuff like that. The Love and Tolerance I give out depends on the situation. For someone who tries to hurt me (physically, emotionally), the love I give them might just be me not punching them in the face. For a friend, the love I will give is always being there for them when they need help. LRP's opinions are subject to change without notice. Fees and penalties still apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Misty 654 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 (edited) Ugh, don't let my thread make you hate people Love and Tolerate everyone. That doesn't mean to be stupid and try to be friends with someone who will hurt you or stuff like that. The Love and Tolerance I give out depends on the situation. For someone who tries to hurt me (physically, emotionally), the love I give them might just be me not punching them in the face. For a friend, the love I will give is always being there for them when they need help. Think of it this way.. if someone murdered you're entire family and children... would you love and tolerate them? No, it's not possible to love and tolerate anyone, no matter what you say, in the situation itself I very much doubt you would forget about it. Sorry if I sound stupid right now, I got a pounding headache and can't focus Edited January 23, 2012 by thomas1up siggy by PixiGlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankveld 4,951 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 You can still tolerate them, they are HUMAN BEINGS after all, and hating them will only cause more problems. Instead, we should care about them (what would make someone do this to another?) and get them the proper help, counselling, medication etc needed to help them (: people don't hurt people because they are healthy and happy, they hurt them because they are hurting inside ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 891 January 23, 2012 Author Share January 23, 2012 (edited) Ugh, don't let my thread make you hate people Don't worry I hated people before it was cool. I'm only joking. Edited January 23, 2012 by Tom I'd like to thank the MLP Vector Club for the images used in my avatar. Known as "Princess Mi Amore Cadenza", "Trixie the Great", "Tom" and "Tomzoid the EggDroid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Rarity Pony 4,894 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 Think of it this way.. if someone murdered you're entire family and children... would you love and tolerate them? No, it's not possible to love and tolerate anyone, no matter what you say, in the situation itself I very much doubt you would forget about it.Sorry if I sound stupid right now, I got a pounding headache and can't focus Yes I would love and tolerate them, probably through not killing anyone out of revenge. I would consider that very loving considering how much they probably deserve it. LRP's opinions are subject to change without notice. Fees and penalties still apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyreth 194 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 I wouldn't love him but I could tolerate him, he did manage to get Germany out of recession in a matter of years, something that we could use now. And he was a good speaker, it would be great to have someone as good as him speaking against SOPA and those other acts. I mean if he was still committing the atrocities he did when he was alive. Surely you couldn't tolerate that? Regardless of how he may help other causes. I can't make signatures. Sooo... yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Misty 654 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 Yes I would love and tolerate them, probably through not killing anyone out of revenge. I would consider that very loving considering how much they probably deserve it. Well to be honest it's everyones own opinion, I just personally couldn't love and tolerate someone like that but whatever siggy by PixiGlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 891 January 23, 2012 Author Share January 23, 2012 I mean if he was still committing the atrocities he did when he was alive. Surely you couldn't tolerate that? Regardless of how he may help other causes. You have a good point sir... put him in a mental asylum? I'd like to thank the MLP Vector Club for the images used in my avatar. Known as "Princess Mi Amore Cadenza", "Trixie the Great", "Tom" and "Tomzoid the EggDroid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheogorath 1,155 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 After a look into the background of this event it seems that there is a cycle of violence going on in that city among the teens. Which means only that they need higher police interaction and stricter past time regulation or some another method to cease the violence and teach those kids some reason and impulse control. It is possible to love and tolerate everyone, I for one feel only bad for all of them. They've lived in environment that has made them into violent idiots like that, likely exposed to violence on regular basis and beating or hating them more for becoming like their environment is not going to help their situation any. These people need something to end the cycle and teach them other means to conduct their lives. what we see here is lack of involvement and control. Government is more worried about internet copying and spreading material, a crime that doesn't really hurt anyone, if it did the giant corporations would already be bankrupt. Meanwhile government chases invisible unicorns, these children go neglected and feel lost, uncared and alone in the world. They seek security and community from gangs but gangs are not organized, they have no structure, and are lead only by impulse. We have nobody else to blame than the government which thinks it is greater crime to share a TV show online, than to brutally abuse kids and spread drugs on the streets. Those teens need more attention, the sort of attention they are not receiving: Structure and guidance on individual level. Their families are struggling to cope while society makes it harder and harder to find decently paying jobs to their parents so they could afford time for their children, and schools need to cut in every social function due lack of proper funding only focusing to bare essentials leaving these young people without direction and sense of belonging to society. This all so the government(s) could afford bigger militaries, afford anti piracy programs, afford tax cuts to corporations, afford more media control. It is people who suffer and that distress manifests in events like this. So yes, I do not hate these kids, they are dumb, they are confused and they are lost, but NOBODY is left dumb, gets lost and become confused intentionally and on their own. These kids likely don't even know what questions to ask to get answers they need, it is tragic on all parts, that video showed us 8 victims, not one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 891 January 23, 2012 Author Share January 23, 2012 Pencils... do you always have to post such awesomely long posts. You make a good point though. It's a shame how many people are nurtured into such situations and those with power don't seem to care. I'd like to thank the MLP Vector Club for the images used in my avatar. Known as "Princess Mi Amore Cadenza", "Trixie the Great", "Tom" and "Tomzoid the EggDroid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonka 39 January 23, 2012 Share January 23, 2012 Love and tolerance and forgiveness are the keys to stop an even greater event from happening. In other words, if you don't use those three, you could end up with an even bigger situation on your hand than what you started out with. For example if someone were to slap you across the face, the love and tolerance way would be to just walk away. The unlove and tolerance way would be to hit him back. In the first example, you might lose a little dignity towards the community, but you ultimately left with only a slap. In the second example, the slapping would turn into a fight, which would turn into jail time and injuries, and a whole mess of other problems caused by the jail time and injuries. I would say yea, you can love and tolerate anyone, but you should only use force if the situation calls for it. "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there you'll be free, if you truly wish to be." Intelligence is both knowladge and logic. If you don't have either knowladge or logic, you don't have intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wobbels 664 January 24, 2012 Share January 24, 2012 I love and tolerate everyone! Doesn't mean I have to love and tolerate their actions! LOOPHOLE! A WINRAR IS YOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUU!!! THIS SIGNATURE IS POTATOES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest January 24, 2012 Share January 24, 2012 If we don't show love and tolerance (or at least tolerance, love is more optional), then we are no better than they are. Hate breeds hate, and love breeds love. Help those in need, peacefully protest what you don't believe in, and work with others to make a brighter future. Sometimes it is hard, but keep on tolerating and just be the best person you can be. Thats my take on it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenohay 318 January 24, 2012 Share January 24, 2012 Some of the posts in this thread remind me of a quote I read somewhere some time ago, it went a little bit like this: "A decent man is a man who would never hit his wife... without a good reason for it:" I'd say it's impossible to Love and Tolerate everyone, but it would be ideal. Even if they are murderers. I mean, let's say that there are two groups. One usually loves and tolerates things "that deserve to be tolerated". Then there's another group that hates and discriminates. They'll say, they dont tolerate, so they don't deserve to be tolerated, lets hate and discriminate their group (just like they did). And that is the world. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack 566 January 24, 2012 Share January 24, 2012 It is physically impossible for someone to love everyone they meet. The human brain is not wired to genuinely care about more than about 150 people at maximum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenohay 318 January 24, 2012 Share January 24, 2012 It is physically impossible for someone to love everyone they meet. The human brain is not wired to genuinely care about more than about 150 people at maximum. Lol Presidents and every politican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 891 January 24, 2012 Author Share January 24, 2012 It is physically impossible for someone to love everyone they meet. The human brain is not wired to genuinely care about more than about 150 people at maximum. Lol Presidents and every politican That explains a lot. I'd like to thank the MLP Vector Club for the images used in my avatar. Known as "Princess Mi Amore Cadenza", "Trixie the Great", "Tom" and "Tomzoid the EggDroid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splashee 28,593 August 6, 2020 Share August 6, 2020 On 1/19/2012 at 12:03 AM, Tom said: Is it really possible to love and tolerate everyone Yes it is. For the 2012 Brony, anything like that was possible. It was the same attitude as hippies had in the 1960s. However, it is an attitude. Implementing it in a real life situation where 50% might respond by stepping you on your toes, so be it. Just keep that attitude, all that is needed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicEnergy 23,244 August 12, 2020 Share August 12, 2020 I doubt it's possible to love and tolerate literally everyone. *totally not up to any shenanigans* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Equine 54,715 August 13, 2020 Share August 13, 2020 (edited) It might be possible to love and/or tolerate everyone in the world. Doesn't mean you have to; especially if the other person doesn't care about you and/or might make your life worse the longer you spend time around them. Your time and energy are limited and precious; put some value on it and invest it where it would best be used. Nothing wrong with walking away from a toxic person/situation. You can still be a caring person, but you don't have to be everyone's councelor or champion. The good thing is, there's always someone better qualified to help the people you can't. It's a lesson that I don't think MLP:FIM ever drove home. They had villains that were never redeemed, but it's a lesson with a lot more subtlety then that. Perhaps they were afraid that it wouldn't match with the show's message of "Friendship is Magic". But to put it simply: You can be friendly to anyone, that doesn't mean you HAVE to be a close personal friend to everyone. Likewise, you don't have to hate those who wrong you, but you don't have to go on pretending like it's okay and nothing happened. Find a good balance in life and value your own mental and emotional health just as much (if not a little more) than everyone else's. Edited August 13, 2020 by Samurai Equine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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