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It shouldn't be a comforting thought that one lives an unexamined life. It's a kind of freedom to be able to analyze how and why you think what you do, and be reassured in what conclusion has been drawn. In television shows and movies the characters talk about how they might cry late at night, or sit alone and wonder if there really is anything more to themselves than their own interests or pleasures. I can laugh when it's the butt of a joke, and feel sympathy for the person who feels pain in those positions because I have an assurance of meaning which is not only true for me but true for all persons everywhere, that can make them feel loved and filled with purpose.

 

Imagine you are a musician, or at least would like to become one. Every day you practice the piano for an hour. At the start you're not very good at it, and can barely squeak by playing Row-Row-Row-Your-Boat without losing your tempo. Every so often, a friend would come by and ask "Hey, do you want to check out the bar?" or "Let's go hang out" or "Futbol game!". You are free to let yourself to distractions, but you can also limit yourself with saying "No, I must practice". And so you do, and practice practice practice for years, and then become a world renowned virtuoso, able to express himself freely with Rachmaninov's 3rd Concerto running through your fingers like you were ringing a bell. Which is more free? The person who sometimes dabbles on the keyboard and has a habit of procrastination, or the virtuoso, who can express himself technically and emotionally in a way which few can?

 

Now having an examined mindset is sort of like that. If you just let your mind be influenced by whatever whenever, you'll become the product of apathy and consumerism (if left to the extreme, that is). But if you examine how, what and why you think what you do, at least you'll have a direction to go in, instead of being blown about by the psychological influences in which modern media drowns us.

m8, u wot.

 

Also, your analogy doesn't work for me, I'd most likely be trying to perfect a speedrun in a game than trying to make a song or something, and if I were I wouldn't let others distract me from that.

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What I meant is that there is greater freedom in being a piano virtuoso than a layman who occasionally dabbles with piano, but getting there takes self-discipline.

 

Likewise, I believe that you'll lead a happer and more fulfilled life if you have an examined life-philosophy. Obviously you care to some extent about that sort of thing, otherwise you wouldn't be on this thread.

Yes, and to satisfy that I've been looking at secular humanism.

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But isn't humanism just delaying the question of meaningless?

It's when you embrace human reason, ethics and philosophical naturalism rather than religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience (I'm looking at some of the earlier posts in this very thread...) or superstition as the basis of morality and decision making, according to Wikipedia. Being that I have lived as a secular individual for most of my life, I have some degree of understanding of human reasoning and ethics. Of course, though, I am still learning. At 21 years old, I am still young.\

 

Now, if you don't mind, I must rest my arm...

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 Do.

 

Thought I doth protest to Wikipedia being a citation in regards to dogma, supernaturalism and naturalism. Since those things are intrinsically dependent upon metaphysical premises to be interpreted, it is impossible to present them objectively. To that end, Wikipedia does not do a very good job of being unbiased in its presentation of those which are metaphysically based upon theistic presuppositions, as far as I've seen.

Let us discuss this in a PM later.

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@@Zach TheDane, Does this mean your active on this forum again then? :) It was kind of a bummer when I signed up for this forum and then I notice the brony responsible for this thread dropped of the map long ago. :( ( Wow... I really sound like a fanboy of some kind here :P )

Actually, I've been thinking of doing that, yeah! Life gets crazy sometimes, you know how it is. But I really love the people here, so I think I'll get involved again. I'm more than happy to field any questions or talk about stuff pertaining to this thread here, or about anything else through PM.

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It's when you embrace human reason, ethics and philosophical naturalism rather than religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience (I'm looking at some of the earlier posts in this very thread...) or superstition as the basis of morality and decision making, according to Wikipedia.

 

You can devote yourself to God while still embracing the former category rather than the latter.  I am a practicing Catholic but still believe that the Grand Canyon was created by Colorado river over eons as opposed to 40 days in the flood (hydrodynamics does not work that way AND the Bible says nothing about the flood digging canyons) and that the Earth is 4.5 billions years old as measured by lead radioisotope dating rather than 5,000 years as claimed by young Earth creationist (counting the generations from Adam is admittedly a creative trick, but I don't think this is really the point of the Bible).

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You can devote yourself to God while still embracing the former category rather than the latter. I am a practicing Catholic but still believe that the Grand Canyon was created by Colorado river over eons as opposed to 40 days in the flood (hydrodynamics does not work that way AND the Bible says nothing about the flood digging canyons) and that the Earth is 4.5 billions years old as measured by lead radioisotope dating rather than 5,000 years as claimed by young Earth creationist (counting the generations from Adam is admittedly a creative trick, but I don't think this is really the point of the Bible).

Don't take this this wrong way; I enjoy discussion as much as anypony else (trust me), but stuff like this seems more fitting in a thread specifically about theological and philosophical debate. This thread is meant to connect people in a casual way, not serve as an in depth discussion ground. The majority of posts on this thread lately have been debates and (dare I say) arguments that are very much off topic. If you would like, I can try to create a discussion thread in a different area of the forums, but *please* stay on topic. I'm asking you all personally for the sake of this thread. Thank you.

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Right here, buckaroos!

 

I'm an independent Baptist and proud! I do sermons every now and then for my youth group. Sadly, many of them don't take God as seriously as I do (or ponies :P), but I know the Lord called me to stand out, so that it what I will do.

 

God bless all of my brothers and sisters in Christ.

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Non-Denominational Christian here! Born and raised, but I have had my trials, my doubts, and my faith remains, even when everything else fails me. This is something about myself that will certainly never change. Hit me up for chats! I like chats!

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Been Christian ever since i lived

You aren't born a Christian, you become Christian when you accept God. And you have to be at least three to think along the lines of that, so...no offence, but I don't think so.


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Ooh, of course I'm a christian, I've been to a camp about 3 times, though I believe the bible was mislead on some parts of life. I don't go every Sunday for church but I prey every week or though (Don't judge me pls) I believe Jesus died on the cross for my sins and rose from the dead for me for every race. I too believe my faith was tested and I have failed a few times but always asked for forgiveness in the end. Life is too awesome to risk it to a stupid choice... Though mistakes are what makes us Human. :D

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Born, baptized and raised Roman Catholic. I don't typically go to church, but I still believe in the Dear Lord all the same.

 

There's nothing in the bible that says we can't enjoy hobbies and interests such as being Bronies/Pegasisters. Even if it was against my religion, it wouldn't matter to me.

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"I'd rather trust and regret, than doubt and regret."

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I was saved at the age of 11.

And I have been over the past 5 1/2 years.

I am proudly a non-denominational Christian.

 

Although, one of my weaknesses is debating.

I don't have the time, resources, knowledge, or energy to get into a debate with an atheist.

Debates just raise my blood pressure to unnecessary levels.

I'll leave the debates to the Christian who actually can debate the Bible.

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Born and raised Catholic, I chose to stay because it'd feel weird to leave a religion where you've grown with all your life. I've been meaning to go to church every Sunday but I haven't been able to do so because of work, and it sucks that my town doesn't have a Saturday service. :( I really want to keep in touch with God, and I've been meaning to do so since my grandmother passed away a few months ago. 

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