Are Bronies the problem?

[Ron J 276]

Season 1 and parts of Season 2 were the only good parts of the show in my opinion, and I generally dislike bronies, simply because they've gone from being relatively quiet and putting out some good fan content to "BEHEAD THOSE WHO HATE PONIES."

 

So needless to say, I distance myself from most MLP related things. This forum is the only MLP-related thing I ever regularly use.

[DJRainbowDash 724]

No, no, no. I just think people don't like some bronies who are rude and intolerant. These types seem to be the reason why so many people hate bronies. It's not just the fanart or the fanfiction that's the problem. It's also the hateful/intolerant people who inhabit the fandom. For example, a hateful/intolerant brony is someone who hates anyone who doesn't like the show or otherwise vows to kill anyone who hates the show (I've seen comments use these exact words on YouTube). 

 

Seems more like trolls than anything to me. 

 

 

 

Do bronies ever get tired of talking about themselves? Please guys, enough already. Let's go do something fun.   I don't care what some guy on TV.com said. Write any kind of fanfiction, make any kind of art you want. The idea that some bronies are teen angels and others are frothing cloppers who litter the net with memes is wrong. It's a myth. Neither group really exists. We're all somewhere in between and we're all connected.

 

This is why I say "don't sweat the fandom." If you pay too much attention to the group you're going to find a hundred things that bother you. I focus on what brought the group together in the first place.

 

I like the way you think good sir! 

 

And this reflects one of my favorite traits in anybody, optimism. Nevermind the negatives that might be here, in the words of irish rock band U2, "The future needs a big kiss." 

[Shiki 5,855]

People are under the impression that this fandom is special.

 

Guess what. It's not.

 

We have butthurt losers who freak shit if you disagree with them, we have people who are idiotic beyond comprehension, we have people who are rude to no extent, we have people who are talented, yet arrogant, and every other kind of person you want to bother naming.

 

I've had random furries spam art to me because they want me to like it. Bronies do the same thing.

Bronies are not a special fandom. The only reason this site thinks so is because they're a part of it. It's similar to a nationalistic American population.

 

It's not all that stupid to start to dislike something because of a not-so-great fandom.

When I hear "pony," the first thing I think of is the fandom, and the moments that have stood out to me the most. There's more ridiculously bad moments of experience with the fandom, for me, than good, so I hold a negative annotation to the word "brony" and "pony" based on bad past experiences.

 

Now, you shouldn't really resent the show for it all that much. It is a bit unreasonable, but I can't really say much, because I'm basically a case, though I wasn't actually that big of a fan to begin with... but I'm rambling. 

[~Master~ Button Mash 2,307]

Why are we letting our jimmies get rustled by some guy on a review website? Who cares? For every person turned off by the fandom, there's probably a dozen turned to it by art, fanfics, music, etc. Creativity is one of this fandom's assets. If someone has a problem with it, just ignore it. That's what I do for things I don't like, and if hasn't failed me yet.

 

Yes, our fandom has it's...eccentrics. But what fandom doesn't? To have that used agains't us is a case of the logical fallacy of "hasty generalization."

 

TL;DR - Enjoy what you like, ignore what you don't. Everyone's jimmies are unrustled, everyone wins.

Edited April 6, 2013 by AtomicBassCannon

[Shanks 10,816]

Season 1 and parts of Season 2 were the only good parts of the show in my opinion, and I generally dislike bronies, simply because they've gone from being relatively quiet and putting out some good fan content to "BEHEAD THOSE WHO HATE PONIES."

Yes you have people like that but, well there was this one comic where Superman "died" and that comic created quite the controversy with fans sending death threats to DC comics so bronies don't exactly have a monopoly on crazy.

[IceBeerG 55]

I persanaly dont have any issues about "dark/mystical/spooky side of a fandom". People create whatever they want, as they want, and it's okey, while you can choose to just avoid them.

The only two reason, why people can hate this fandom, that i can guess about it's

 

1 - they are stupid. No offence - haters gonna hate, and you cannot do anything with that. There is a lot of peoples who just hate bronies cuz it's ... well... cool? lol.

2 - Annoying of brony. I've became brony about year ago so i miss some part of the fandom life, but i heard rumors about the bronies who constantly flood forums on the web with ponies. Everywhere - pony memes, pony pictures, pony arts, they just spam it. While you trying to convince others so hard, you will always find negative feedback.

[Smitty91 57]

I suspect that more of the hate has to come from brony "evangelists"- those who preach and spread the word about bronies.  Which I could understand; I don't like being advertised to or "sold on" anything either, and if others tire of that, these bronies should respect their wishes. 

 

Yes, I think that's why some people don't like some bronies because some of them advertise this show like crazy, acting like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Yeah, it's a great show, but it's not like it's going to be the next SpongeBob or anything. Like South Park and other "great" shows, the show will eventually go down in quality if on the air long enough. Many Simpsons fans agree that after the tenth season, the show began to go downhill, and Family Guy has never been the same since it came back in 2005. This isn't a criticism of the show, mind you. I'm just saying that people who think this is, "the greatest show EVER!" give this show way more praise than it really deserves. Sure, the writing is good, the characters are memorable and whatnot, but calm down, please! 

 

 

The brony sub culture is truly an ode to peace. It separates gender inequality, promotes tolerance and approving common ground among people (episode 21: "Over a Barrel") and simulates a very healthy number of art. How this sub culture could be seen as negative is beyond me.

 

I think the real problem is the bronies who do the really sick, weird stuff, but as already stated, every fandom is going to have that. I bet if you searched SpongeBob and Patrick you would find some rule 34 of them. Definitely of them! 

 

 

This is why I say "don't sweat the fandom." If you pay too much attention to the group you're going to find a hundred things that bother you. I focus on what brought the group together in the first place.

 

Hear, hear! I agree! Unfortunately, as one poster already stated, the slogan "love and tolerance" seems to be a dead one now since some people seem to think that a lot of bronies just use it to yell at each other now, as one poster said. We need to get back to what brought us all together in the first place. As Pinkie Pie said, "You gotta share. You gotta care. It's the right thing to do." 

[Finesthour 7,287]

I did not contradict myself.  There's a difference between being creative and putting stuff up on deviantArt, Youtube, fanfiction.net, etc and posting about//"evangelizing" the show in comments or threads where it's not appropriate.  . 

 

In the first case you'd usually you'd have to actively look for such material in order to find it.  In the latter, you're  actively being sold on a product or having it thrown in your face. 

 

And where in the hell did I say that they had to conform to my opinion?

You're saying that they are petty and stupid for staying away from the fandom due to their opinion, but then you say that they should just respect yours.

Why, in gods name do they have to accept your opinion? Why not accept that they want nothing to do with the fandom.

[DJRainbowDash 724]

 

Things are starting to get a bit heated in here. So to solve this, here is a completely not distracting picture of Twilight bopping. Enjoy.

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

Yes you have people like that but, well there was this one comic where Superman "died" and that comic created quite the controversy with fans sending death threats to DC comics so bronies don't exactly have a monopoly on crazy.

Nice use of quotes around "died".

 

But this is pretty much what I'm talking about. The reason bronies being crazy stands out more than is because the show is My Little Pony. Sure, you and I know it's a legitimate show with actual story, and we are all self aware and know how silly the fact that this fandom exists is (most of us, anyway), but still dude, it's a Trekkie (or Trekker if you want to be BLAHRG about this) style following surrounding MLP. You can't really blame the average joe for being all "WTF"?

[Smitty91 57]

Why are we letting our jimmies get rustled by some guy on a review website? Who cares? For every person turned off by the fandom, there's probably a dozen turned to it by art, fanfics, music, etc. Creativity is one of this fandom's assets. If someone has a problem with it, just ignore it. That's what I do for things I don't like, and if hasn't failed me yet.

 

Yes, our fandom has it's...eccentrics. But what fandom doesn't? To have that used agains't us is a case of the logical fallacy of "hasty generalization."

 

TL;DR - Enjoy what you like, ignore what you don't. Everyone's jimmies are unrustled, everyone wins.

 

I agree. The creativity of the fandom is really the strongest point of it. People are always going to have problems with the show or with the fandom. You can't really avoid it. But, at the same time, you can't help but wonder why some people don't like said show or fandom. In reality, it doesn't really matter, but sometimes you just want to find out why and when you do, you simply nod your head and say, "Yeah, I can see that." Given how much harm some bronies do to the fandom via their stories, art, and whatnot, I can see why some people would be turned off by the fandom, or the show as a whole, but as one poster already said, the fandom shouldn't really turn you away from the show because some sick-minded guy decided to write a disgusting/disturbing story or draw something as equally as disgusting or disturbing. 

 

I persanaly dont have any issues about "dark/mystical/spooky side of a fandom". People create whatever they want, as they want, and it's okey, while you can choose to just avoid them.

The only two reason, why people can hate this fandom, that i can guess about it's

 

1 - they are stupid. No offence - haters gonna hate, and you cannot do anything with that. There is a lot of peoples who just hate bronies cuz it's ... well... cool? lol.

2 - Annoying of brony. I've became brony about year ago so i miss some part of the fandom life, but i heard rumors about the bronies who constantly flood forums on the web with ponies. Everywhere - pony memes, pony pictures, pony arts, they just spam it. While you trying to convince others so hard, you will always find negative feedback.

 

#2 is the reason why so many people don't like bronies. As I said before, they advertise the show like crazy! 

[Shanks 10,816]

You're saying that they are petty and stupid for staying away from the fandom due to their opinion, but then you say that they should just respect yours.

Why, in gods name do they have to accept your opinion? Why not accept that they want nothing to do with the fandom.

It is not the opinion it is the reason for the opinion, it is not unreasonable for someone to not decide to be part of something because it is not their cup of cider but it is an entirely different matter to scapegoat and stereotype everyone in the fandom for the actions of a few people. I was once into Pokemon for example but grew bored with it years ago, but you don't see me going out of my way saying "Pokemon sucks" calling people that like it "pokefags" or demonizing the fandom.

[Finesthour 7,287]

It is not the opinion it is the reason for the opinion, it is not unreasonable for someone to not decide to be part of something because it is not their cup of cider but it is an entirely different matter to scapegoat and stereotype everyone in the fandom for the actions of a few people. I was once into Pokemon for example but grew bored with it years ago, but you don't see me going out of my way saying "Pokemon sucks" calling people that like it "pokefags" or demonizing the fandom.

Not once did I say that hating on the fandom was good either. Stereotyping will always happen. Everyone stereotypes each other. But going out of your way to hate something is different.

If you hate the show due to the fandom, it's their jazz. That's the bottom line. No one is stupid for it.

[Smitty91 57]

You're saying that they are petty and stupid for staying away from the fandom due to their opinion, but then you say that they should just respect yours.

Why, in gods name do they have to accept your opinion? Why not accept that they want nothing to do with the fandom.

 

Okay, no offense, but could you two please continue this conversation via PM? There's really no need to argue in the middle of a topic. 

[Shanks 10,816]

MLP. You can't really blame the average joe for being all "WTF"?

Yes I can and will, only closed minded idiots rant and rave on things without even bothering to have even the slightest understanding of it.

[Finesthour 7,287]

Okay, no offense, but could you two please continue this conversation via PM? There's really no need to argue in the middle of a topic. 

Our conversation pertains to the topic.

Not one of us are off topic. That would be you.

 

So, no. I will not be taking this to a PM. It is no one's topic.

 

Yes I can and will, only closed minded idiots rant and rave on things without even bothering to have even the slightest understanding of it.

I was a brony for three years, yet you call me an idiot who doesn't have the "slightest understanding".

Not once did I insult you, or your opinions. I will leave the topic as it stands now, with you insulting me for no reason.

Edited April 6, 2013 by Crona The Critic

[Dr. Vojislav Seselj 691]

I'M MELTING! THE HEAT! IT'S UNBEARABLE!

 

All joking aside, every fandom has its dark side.

 

The only reason us Bronies are getting pummeled is because there are idiots in this fandom. Just like every fandom. And the idiots are always more noticable than the "cool" guys. That's called stereotyping.

 

Example: Guy from the Middle East kills fifty in Times Square. Now everyone thinks all Middle-easterners are terrorists.

[~Master~ Button Mash 2,307]

I agree. The creativity of the fandom is really the strongest point of it. People are always going to have problems with the show or with the fandom. You can't really avoid it. But, at the same time, you can't help but wonder why some people don't like said show or fandom. In reality, it doesn't really matter, but sometimes you just want to find out why and when you do, you simply nod your head and say, "Yeah, I can see that." Given how much harm some bronies do to the fandom via their stories, art, and whatnot, I can see why some people would be turned off by the fandom, or the show as a whole, but as one poster already said, the fandom shouldn't really turn you away from the show because some sick-minded guy decided to write a disgusting/disturbing story or draw something as equally as disgusting or disturbing. 

  

Which is exactly why people should just learn to deal with stuff like that. Every fandom has their...peculiars. Why neuter the creativity as a whole just to save face because some guy got offended by somebody's fanfic?

 

Not to mention that for that one guy turned off by that fanfic, there's many more turned on to the fandom by good works like The Doctor and His Assistant, Snowdrop, Double Rainboom, etc.

[hawkflame 3,310]

You're saying that they are petty and stupid for staying away from the fandom due to their opinion, but then you say that they should just respect yours.

Why, in gods name do they have to accept your opinion? Why not accept that they want nothing to do with the fandom.

 

I said that they are petty and stupid for knocking the fandom for something that they would have to actively look for in order to be exposed to it.  Yeah, I think it's petty and stupid and I don't get it. It's not the opinion itself, but the reasoning behind it here that I think is nonsensical. 

 

And where did I say anything about my opinion?  In fact, I said that *their* opinion should be respected if they don't want ponies thrown in their face in unrelated threads/comments sections all the time. 

Edited April 6, 2013 by hawkflame

[Planty 1,053]

I'm going to be completely honest.

I agree with what they're saying.

To an extent, of course. I was personally pushed away from the fandom due to the massive amounts of rude people who joined over the Summer of last year. Bronies aren't what they used to be. I enjoyed when "Love and Tolerance" wasn't seen as something dumb, but when it was a general rule.

 

But now, it's just something yelled to try to prove it's your right to yell at someone.

 

So no, it's general bronies. Not just "cloppers", or crap like that. Every fandom has that weird stuff that goes on. Bronies are just more popular right now. Furries get the same crap.

Totally agree, I've had so many big arguments with people on Reddit over this to the exspent where this forum is the only place MLP related that i am at all.

 

Alot of brony's are now just not very nice, people started forcing the show onto people ect rather then just not caring what people think about them.

[Finesthour 7,287]

I said that they are petty and stupid for knocking the fandom for something that they would have to actively look for in order to be exposed to it.  Yeah, I think it's petty and stupid and I don't get it. 

 

And where did I say anything about my opinion?  In fact, I said that *their* opinion should be respected if they don't want ponies thrown in their face in unrelated threads/comments sections all the time. 

I must of just understood that you were meaning that, my mistake then.

It may seem stupid for you, but it is a persons choice whether they enjoy the show or not. Not much you or I can do about it.

[Shanks 10,816]

 

I was a brony for three years, yet you call me an idiot who doesn't have the "slightest understanding".

Not once did I insult you, or your opinions. I will leave the topic as it stands now, with you insulting me for no reason.

I didn't intend to insult you and apologize if it seemed that way, who I am talking about are the ignoramuses who know nothing about bronies yet are hell bent on hating them because of the action of a handful of jackasses.

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

Yes I can and will, only closed minded idiots rant and rave on things without even bothering to have even the slightest understanding of it.

I mean, yeah, if someone is being douchey about it because it's a "girlz show", that stinks.

 

But keep in mind that besides kinda sorta G1, MLP wasn't exactly known for its quality.

[Shanks 10,816]

But keep in mind that besides kinda sorta G1, MLP wasn't exactly known for its quality.

True, and I will admit that I never thought in a million years that I would like MLP and I confess was a little surprised and confused at how many teenagers and adults were into it. But even then I figured that it was a little strange but harmless and left it at that.

[Smitty91 57]

I'M MELTING! THE HEAT! IT'S UNBEARABLE!

 

All joking aside, every fandom has its dark side.

 

The only reason us Bronies are getting pummeled is because there are idiots in this fandom. Just like every fandom. And the idiots are always more noticable than the "cool" guys. That's called stereotyping.

 

Example: Guy from the Middle East kills fifty in Times Square. Now everyone thinks all Middle-easterners are terrorists.

 

Yes, there are some idiots in the fandom, ones who don't know when to leave well enough alone and allow someone to dislike the show/fandom. These idiots push the show onto people, just like religious people push their religion onto people. It's annoying and inconsiderate and that is one of the reasons why people don't like some bronies, because they don't like having the show thrown in their faces.