mega thread Unpopular Music Related Opinions

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

Opeth was closer than Converge.

 

>ignores the fact of how Jane Doe helped shape Metalcore

>ignores the fact of how Converge are one of the most influential underground Hardcore bands

>Thinks that Opeth are closer to Pink Floyd's level than Converge are

WTF am I reading?

 

 

Okay to play play fair, Pink Floyd is the best rock band of their era.

 

 I'll need to take thought on that, though I'll agree on Pink Floyd being the best Prog Rock band out there.

 

 

Okay to compare the 90's with the 90's I'm going to say that Pearl Jam was the best rock band of the 90's.

 

Bitch please that title obviously goes to Radiohead, but then again I'm the massive Radiohead fan, so my opinion is highly biased.

[MVC NVMXD JVRXD 2,406]

 

 

Okay to play play fair, Pink Floyd is the best rock band of their era. (Still think they trump everything)

What about bands like Captain Beefheart and Faust, who actually pushed boundaries in their times? I mean, yeah Pink Floyd started out as amazing space rock, but anything past like Animals isn't really that distinct.

 

 

Regardless of however you think of him, David Howell Evans aka The Edge, the guitarist of U2, is one of the greatest guitarists of his generation. He's been able to change how one uses a guitar, instead using the instrument to create masterful sonic landscapes.

He's like a pop guitarist :V

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

Okay to compare the 90's with the 90's I'm going to say that Pearl Jam was the best rock band of the 90's.

No, fawck you. Nirvana>Pearl Jam. Oh, and let's not forget Alice in Chains, Radiohead and Soundgarden.

 

 

Okay to play play fair, Pink Floyd is the best rock band of their era. (Still think they trump everything)

Please, Black Sabbath, The Clash and The Velvet Underground are all better. 

[Dark Moon 965]

 

 

What about bands like Captain Beefheart and Faust, who actually pushed boundaries in their times? I mean, yeah Pink Floyd started out as amazing space rock, but anything past like Animals isn't really that distinct.

 

My answer to that good sir, THE FUCKING WALL, you know, that friggen incredible album they made that was one of their craziest albums ever. Also the Final Cut, one of the most depressing albums ever, like actually sad not bad, though it destroyed their fellowship. Anything past that was watered down. And they didn't start out as space rock, they were psychedelic back in the day with Barrett. 

 

 

 

Bitch please that title obviously goes to Radiohead, but then again I'm the massive Radiohead fan, so my opinion is highly biased.

I might soon agree with you actually on that one.

[Twiliscael 3,960]

You're completely retarded if you think Coldplay is worse than Nickelback (I don't really like Coldplay though btw)

Thanks for calling me retarded  

 

Coldplay, while originally the massively superior band, have actually become worse than Nickelback by a pretty large portion. At least Nickelback produces the same exact quality of "pretty fucking awful" every singe time around, whereas Coldplay, who used to actually be good, just get so much worse and worse and worse every single time they make new music.

[Dark Moon 965]

 

 

Please, Black Sabbath, The Clash and The Velvet Underground are all better. 

Fuck no, you on drugs or something? Black Sabbath had their moments,  but fuck the other two. Have you even heard The Wall or Animals?  The only band that could try to rival Pink Floyd would be the Beatles, despite all the hate they get here.

 

 

No, fawck you. Nirvana>Pearl Jam. Oh, and let's not forget Alice in Chains, Radiohead and Soundgarden.

Nirvana is pretty damn good, but they get a little bit too much attention, so I'll say that they rival Pearl Jam. Soundgarden is good, but they can't touch Pearl Jam. Same with Alice in Chains. Radiohead rivals them.

[MVC NVMXD JVRXD 2,406]

My answer to that good sir, THE FUCKING WALL, you know, that friggen incredible album they made that was one of their craziest albums ever. Also the Final Cut, one of the most depressing albums ever, like actually sad not bad, though it destroyed their fellowship. Anything past that was watered down. And they didn't start out as space rock, they were psychedelic back in the day with Barrett.

Space rock is psychedelic rock b-baka

The Wall didn't have that much experimentation, you know. Most of the songs aren't remembered as some boundary pushing master-pieces, but as popular rock songs (Another Brick in the Wall pt. 2, Comfortably Numb, Hey You, Goodbye Blue Sky...)

I could list albums more depressing albums than The Final Cut. The Final Cut felt like a low point in their career as a whole.

 

 

Fuck no, you on drugs or something? Black Sabbath had their moments, but fuck the other two. Have you even heard The Wall or Animals? The only band that could try to rival Pink Floyd would be the Beatles, despite all the hate they get here.

The Velvet Underground were pioneers of the art-rock movement and had a large influence on post-punk as a whole. The Velvet Underground & Nico is probably the best album of the 60s.

Edited June 5, 2013 by duhgentee

[Sickman 205]

I know there's already an "unpopular opinions thread", but this one is just for music. That way it doesn't get tangled with crap like religion and politics.

 

Alright I'll begin now.

 

People who say things like "Music nowadays sucks" are annoying as hell.

People who think that good metal only comes out of Europe are annoying.

Mike Portnoy is a huge douche for trying to sue his ex-band mates.

John Petrucci is overrated.

People who say that grindcore sucks just because it has the word "core" in it are ignorant. (Same with metalcore)

Bathory invented black metal, not Venom.

Venom was the best NWOBHM band.

Destruction is my favorite thrash metal band.

Igor Cavalera is an underrated drummer.

I kinda like Lars Ulrich, he's a good drummer too.

I like Anal Cunt's music.

Obsessed By Cruelty is Sodom's best album.

I can understand why the Norwegian church burnings happaned.

I really like Pablo Honey, You is my favorite Radiohead song.

Meat Is Murder is better than The Queen Is Dead.

The Stooges invented punk, not the Ramones.

Post-hardcore used to be a good genre of music.

I find Coldplay to depressing and boring.

Pitchfork and Rolling Stone both suck.

I don't like Lady Gaga's music but, she seems like a nice person.

There's plenty of good music today, people just can find it.

 

Well, I'm done for right now.

Oh boy, here we go:

 

• When people say "Music nowadays", they usually mean mainstream music, and it just happens that mainstream music nowadays is full of abject mediocrity, which makes this statement absolutely true.
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• North American (US) metal tends to be very radio friendly and commercialized nowadays, so I understand where people with this point of view are coming from.

   

• I don't listen to Dream Theater, so I wouldn't know.
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• *See above
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• Yes. No genre should be judged solely by its name.
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• I generally concur, but even so, this is arguable.
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• I sort of bizarrely agree.
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• And Nuclear Assault is my favourite Trash metal band. What's your point?
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• He was from Sepultura, right?
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• Ulrich is a douche. Hetfield too.
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• I don't much like Grindcore.
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• No argument here
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• I can understand the motivations as well, but I still don't tolerate destroying buildings that have cultural-historic value.

   

• Both of them suck.
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• The Stooges didn't "invent" punk. Ged Dunn, and Malcolm McLaren did.
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• It used to. Too bad that trend didn't last.
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• I find Coldplay boring as hell, but depressing? Hell no. Boring and fucking irritating.
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• Pitchfork sucks, and Rolling Stones is overrated.
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• I think she's unoriginal. She thinks she's hot shit, but punk bands did the same exact thing 40 years ago, and way better, I might add.
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• I agree with this. You'll have to plow, and dig through the shit, and underground to find the gemstones.

   

Edited June 5, 2013 by Sickman

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

Fuck no, you on drugs or something? Black Sabbath had their moments,  but fuck the other two. Have you even heard The Wall or Animals?  The only band that could try to rival Pink Floyd would be the Beatles, despite all the hate they get here.

I've only listened to DSOTM (Kill me.) But how could you say that about The Clash and The Velvet undergrpund? The Clash's selftitled is better DSOTM. And don't even get me started on The Velvet Underground.

 

 

 

Both of them suck.

 

Did you just say that both Meat is Murder and The Queen Is Dead Suck?

 

 

Nirvana is pretty damn good, but they get a little bit too much attention, so I'll say that they rival Pearl Jam. Soundgarden is good, but they can't touch Pearl Jam. Same with Alice in Chains. Radiohead rivals them.

Alice in Chains is better than Pearl Jam.

[Dark Moon 965]

 

 

The Wall didn't have that much experimentation, you know. Most of the songs aren't remembered as some boundary pushing master-pieces, but as popular rock songs (Another Brick in the Wall pt. 2, Comfortably Numb, Hey You, Goodbye Blue Sky...) I could list albums more depressing albums than The Final Cut. The Final Cut felt like a low point in their career as a whole.

 

If I remembered correctly, the Wall is considered a masterpiece and an experience. I didn't realize that each successive had to continually push the boundaries to be considered "good". Your obviously not a Pink Floyd fan(maybe just not a Roger Waters fan) if you think the Final Cut was the low point. I would have to say that everything after the Final Cut was the low point.

[Sickman 205]

 

Did you just say that both Meat is Murder and The Queen Is Dead Suck?

 

Why, yes. Yes, I did.

People have opinions.

You got a problem with that, kiddo?

 

By the way, Alice in Chains *IS* better than Pearl Jam. They are also a criminally underrated band... I think they always sort of were.

Edited June 5, 2013 by Sickman

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

Nirvana is pretty damn good, but they get a little bit too much attention, so I'll say that they rival Pearl Jam. Soundgarden is good, but they can't touch Pearl Jam. Same with Alice in Chains. Radiohead rivals them.

 

Yes, I agree Nirvana get way too much attention and Pearl Jam are much better than them. I was never able to get into Soundgarden except for the song Black Hole Sun. I disagree with Pearl Jam being better than Alice In Chains though. Yes Radiohead rivals them all.

 

And I feel upset that no one has mentioned My Bloody Valentine or Nine Inch Nails while debating bands of the 90's.

[Dark Moon 965]

 

 

I've only listened to DSOTM (Kill me.) But how could you say that about The Clash and The Velvet undergrpund? The Clash's selftitled is better DSOTM. And don't even get me started on The Velvet Underground.  

 

I can forgive you for not listening to Animals, it's not well know but is still awesome. I don't get how you haven't listened to the Wall. They both seem like they would be right up your ally with you outtake on life.  Your missing out on the Wall, I don't want to seem dramatic or anything, but The Wall saved my life. I'm pretty sure I would have committed suicide two years ago if I hadn't heard Pink Floyd, specifically the Wall. Seriously you should hear it. I'm not a musician so I'm just going off of what I've heard and know the background on. I know nothing about The Clash or the Velvet Underground.

[MVC NVMXD JVRXD 2,406]

 

 

If I remembered correctly, the Wall is considered a masterpiece and an experience. I didn't realize that each successive had to continually push the boundaries to be considered "good". Your obviously not a Pink Floyd fan(maybe just not a Roger Waters fan) if you think the Final Cut was the low point. I would have to say that everything after the Final Cut was the low point.

You said it was one of the craziest albums ever, and that it was incredible. But I was just pointing out reasons why it wasn't as good as you said it was.

 

And I feel upset that no one has mentioned My Bloody Valentine or Nine Inch Nails while debating bands of the 90's.

Well I have different picks.

But as a overall important and influential band, I'd have to say that Neutral Milk Hotel is probably one of the biggest.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

I agree Nirvana get way too much attention

Moog... 

 

And I feel upset that no one has mentioned My Bloody Valentine or Nine Inch Nails while debating bands of the 90's.

Don't forget Tool and Deftones.

 

 

If I remembered correctly, the Wall is considered a masterpiece

The same could be said for The Velvet Underground & Nico, Nevermind, London Calling and The Clash's self-titled. 

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

Moog... 

 

I could go on about my unpopular opinions on Nirvana, but I don't feel like it.

 

Don't forget Tool and Deftones.

 

Tool and Deftones are considered more as a 2000's band since that was when their most well known albums came out.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

I could go on about my unpopular opinions on Nirvana, but I don't feel like it.

I could do the same for Oasis.

 

 

Tool and Deftones are considered more as a 2000's band since that was when their most well known albums came out.

True, White Pony and Lateralus didn't come out untill later. And Sonic Youth is more of an 80's band. 

[Kazuki Fuse 534]

but fuck the other two. Have you even heard The Wall or Animals? 

 

You can straight go and fuck off m8. VU&Nico may be hyped, but its hyped for a reason.

 

 

And I feel upset that no one has mentioned My Bloody Valentine or Nine Inch Nails while debating bands of the 90's.

 

Mah Moog. You know what's up.

 

Also, why is no one talking about the Pixies? Hugely influential on a multitude of 90's bands.

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

Also, why is no one talking about the Pixies? Hugely influential on a multitude of 90's bands.

 

lol they're one of Dawn's favorite bands, and come to think of it, I'm surprised that he didn't mention the Pixies, or the fact that no one else mentioned the Pixies.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

You can straight go and fuck off m8. VU&Nico may be hyped, but its hyped for a reason.

White Ligh/White Heat is good too

 

 

 

Also, why is no one talking about the Pixies? Hugely influential on a multitude of 90's bands.

 

lol they're one of Dawn's favorite bands, and come to think of it, I'm surprised that he didn't mention the Pixies, or the fact that no one else mentioned the Pixies.

Holy fuck now I feel kinda stupid, although they were (like Sonic Youth) a bit more of an 80's band.

It's amazing how they have that soft yet edgy sound.

[Dark Moon 965]

Why, yes. Yes, I did. People have opinions. You got a problem with that, kiddo? By the way, Alice in Chains *IS* better than Pearl Jam. They are also a criminally underrated band... I think they always sort of were.

 

No they're not. Pearl Jam kicks ass, but opinions are opinions. I really no more right than you are.

 

 

You can straight go and fuck off m8. VU&Nico may be hyped, but its hyped for a reason.

Chill man, I've never heard the Velvet Underground before, listening to the album right now. They definitely take the cake for 60's. I'm sorry for disgracing them. 

Listened to some of the Clash, they're still just okay, definitely don't beat Pink Floyd.

 

So here is what I'm going to do, I'm just going to state my opinion for who I think was the best each decade. Lets remember this isn't a convert the fuck out of any that don't agree with you thread.

 

60's- Velvet Underground

70's- Pink Floyd

80's- U2(This is definitely going to be unpopular)/Sonic Youth

90's- Pearl Jam/Nirvana/ Radiohead

Edited June 5, 2013 by Dark Moon

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

They definitely take the cake for 60's. I'm sorry for disgracing them. 

Yea you better be sorry. 

 

 

80's- U2(This is definitely going to be unpopular)

No fahk you, the 80's belong to The Smiths or Slayer. Or Sonic Youth. Or The Pixies.  

 

That moment when you realise that you've never heard a Dinasour Jr. song in your life...

[Dark Moon 965]

Yea you better be sorry. 

Oh your such a pompous little ass.  OR WHAT?!?!?

 

 

 

No fahk you, the 80's belong to The Smiths or Slayer. Or Sonic Youth. Or The Pixies.     That moment when you realise that you've never heard a Dinasour Jr. song in your life...

I could give 0 fucks......I like U2 and I'm not going to waver on that. I've listened to the Pixies somewhat and they're not my favorite. Smiths are good, but U2 is higher in my book. Never heard Sonic Youth or Slayer, I'll give em a try, but I doubt any miracles will happen.

Dammit this is going to force me to stop listening to V8U&Nico for a few minutes. Going to have to buy this album now.

 

Update: I'm actually liking what I'm hearing from Sonic Youth. Listening to Schizophrenia. Fuck this might be the second time that I eat my own words.

Update #2: Yep Sonic Youth is now tied. Yet to listen to Slayer.

Update #3 Slayer=  They're good, just not my favorite for the 80's.

Edited June 5, 2013 by Dark Moon

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

Oh your such a pompous little ass.  OR WHAT?!?!?

 

 

 

I could give 0 fucks......I like U2 and I'm not going to waver on that. I've listened to the Pixies somewhat and they're not my favorite. Smiths are good, but U2 is higher in my book. Never heard Sonic Youth or Slayer, I'll give em a try, but I doubt any miracles will happen.

Dammit this is going to force me to stop listening to V8U&Nico for a few minutes. Going to have to buy this album now.

 

Update: I'm actually liking what I'm hearing from Sonic Youth. Listening to Schizophrenia. Fuck this might be the second time that I eat my own words.

Yea so, this takes a while to get into... but's when you do it get better and better.

Oh and I doubt you'll like Slayer... They're not for everyone.

[Moog the Kvlt 1,460]

60's- Velvet Underground

70's- Pink Floyd

80's- U2(This is definitely going to be unpopular)

90's- Pearl Jam/Nirvana/ Radiohead

 

I would of chosen The Cure instead of U2, but whatever, I guess it's just your choice of band.

 

Oh and I doubt you'll like Slayer... They're not for everyone.

 

I doubt that he'd like Slayer as well.