Who came up with the idea for Twilicorn, Hasbro or the writers?

[Twinhead B 482]

I still wonder about Fighting is Magic.  I'm very dismayed that a suitable licensing agreement for producing the game wasn't reached with its creators.  That would've been the best outcome for all involved. 

 

It's still possible that they will come to an agreement. Friendship is Witchcraft was also issued a cease and desist, and it's videos were blocked on Youtube in several countries. Now however, their videos are back up on YouTube, uneditted and left completely intact.

 

We just need to give the situation time, I'm confident Hasbro will come to an agreement, especially because of how widely popular the project was.

[deadprofile 1,122]

I hope so too, but it may be harder for them since it is a "fighting" game with characters from a little girl's show. I guess the best thing to do is wait and see what happens...

[kirbyboi 588]

To be honest, I don't know, but I'm guessing most likely Hasbro. But it really doesn't matter, I don't mind Alicorn Twilight. I just hope Hasbro doesn't start acting like control-freaks to the show, if they indeed are the people behind Twilight becoming an alicorn. 

 

 

But I support Twilicorn, and I won't point fingers at anyone yet. But I really don't know, but from the looks of it (especially with the new toy of Twilicorn coming out) it kinda looks like Hasbro is the one behind it. But I don't think the show will be ruined because of it. They handled this finale very well, and I enjoyed it a lot!  

 

But I honestly think Hasbro is using this as a marketing scheme, but we'll just have to see. But I think yes. But I might be wrong. 

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

It was always about Twilights ascension to becoming an alicorn.  She is Celestia's apprentice and will become her successor.  Not only that the episode was written in 2011.  

[Scootalove 10,689]

Well Twilight was destined to be a alicorn. Since, Hasbro gives the writers ideas to put into ideas like plots, quotes, actions, etc. Hasbro must have had a buckload of ideas, so Twilight came to mind in the season finale.

[Zygen 6,066]

I think most of us could imagine Twilight becoming Celestia's Successor in some form eventually, whether in the duration of the show who knows, but I think it was pretty much bound to happen.

 

However I think the Alicorn thing might have been Hasbro's getting something from the opportunity, then again I feel like all royalty being Alicorns kinda makes sense. But I feel like Hasbro made sure it'd happen so they could sell toys.

 

I'm pretty sure Lauren Faust already had imagined Twilights Princesshood becoming real when she made the show.

[Shift 4,272]

Lauren Faust indended for Twilight to become a princess, but stay a unicorn to keep the show fresh. Hasbro then decided to make her an alicorn, so honestly, go and yell at Lauren if you're upset at Twi becoming a princess. If you're upset she's an alicorn, go yell at hasbro. I'm going to kick back and watch the commotion you guys are making; it's quite entertaining. I'm fine with the change as I stated many times before, as long as she's not OP, which she isn't so far. We have to see season 4 to truly judge if this change will affect the show in a major way, because it opens up many opportunities  Twidash shipping, FlutterSparkle shipping [i think that's what it's called] and many more friendship lessons and episode ideas. I think it's a great addition to the show if they pull it off right.

[Queen Cassie 3,057]

Thereisnospoon has covered the most important aspect of Twilight becoming an Alicorn, but I think it's also worth reminding everyone that when the season three finale was written, it was the series finale.

Let me say that again.

The season three finale was the series finale.

It was only a decision made by Hasbro some time after the finale was written that resulted in Season Four being ordered. Season four wasn't planned for because it didn't exist until after they had already written what they thought would be the end of the series.

I bring this up because many people seem to think that Hasbro rushed the notion of an Alicorn Twilight because they couldn't be patient enough to wait for the end of the series or something like that, when that's not how things happened at all.

[joeyRpony 13]

By some rumours I heard, it's absolutely their idea to make Twilight an alicorn just to sell toys. Though, she's not going to continue being one in Season 4. 

[Yellow Diamond 7,569]

Thereisnospoon has covered the most important aspect of Twilight becoming an Alicorn, but I think it's also worth reminding everyone that when the season three finale was written, it was the series finale.

 

Let me say that again.

 

The season three finale was the series finale.

 

It was only a decision made by Hasbro some time after the finale was written that resulted in Season Four being ordered. Season four wasn't planned for because it didn't exist until after they had already written what they thought would be the end of the series.

 

Not that I disagree with the sentiment that this was the series finale (in fact, I completely agree), but is there any official word on it? I have yet to see anyone directly ask a member of the staff whether or not Season 3 was truly intended to be the final season. I suspect anyone working on the show would be mum about it.

 

Even if they never admitted to it, too many signs point towards Season 3 being the end (e.g., inordinate amount of fan service, 65 episode threshold, and Twilight becoming a princess) and and the season finale really being the series finale.

[Queen Cassie 3,057]

Not that I disagree with the sentiment that this was the series finale (in fact, I completely agree), but is there any official word on it? I have yet to see anyone directly ask a member of the staff whether or not Season 3 was truly intended to be the final season. I suspect anyone working on the show would be mum about it.

 

Even if they never admitted to it, too many signs point towards Season 3 being the end (e.g., inordinate amount of fan service, 65 episode threshold, and Twilight becoming a princess) and and the season finale really being the series finale.

As far as I am aware, no one has specifically stated that it was the series finale. And no one will until the show is over and they're released from their contractual obligations to stay silent.

 

I also want to point to the fact that we only started learning about season four in hints dropped from show staffers around September 2012 or so. Prior to that we had no information as to whether or not there would be a season four at all, either substantiated or rumored.

 

So I think every fact we have available points to it being the case. But, we will not learn for sure until the show really does come to an end, and show staffers can say some things they're currently barred from saying.

[Azura 1,107]

From what I've heard they turned Twilight into a Alicorn just so they could sell more toys. To be honest, that's got to be one of the most dumbest things I've ever heard.

[joeyRpony 13]

From what I've heard they turned Twilight into a Alicorn just so they could sell more toys. To be honest, that's got to be one of the most dumbest things I've ever heard.

That is true, Cloud Chaser. Not me to blame. Anyways, I think I heard it from somewhere, I think from a brony. Not sure if it's a fib or not.

Edited March 2, 2013 by joeyRpony

[himanuts 165]

According to Daniel Ingram. It was Hasbro. 

 

http://www.facebook.com/dannyimusic?fref=ts

Daniel Ingram - Composer/Songwriter

February 16

The MLP S3 Finale episode aired today, FINALLY!! I was a tall order from Hasbro… "Let's make it a musical", "All the ponies will change cutie marks, then they get them back, and we need songs about THAT!", "Oh, and Twilight get's WINGS." I'm not going to lie, it was a daunting task and some of the songs got shortened to fit it all in, but in the end my team and I are really proud of the music and hope you enjoy the episode. Special thanks to Will Anderson for letting Steffan and myself do the underscore for this one. Now, go Twilight!

[Best Pony 83]

Twilight becoming a Celestia's successor was probably Lauren's idea judging from the documentary.

 

The decision to give her wings along with making her a successor, is still unknown.

[poniesforfun 716]

If they want to sell more toys just make every pony into an alicorn. Yeah Hasbro if you're reading this it's a pretty good idea. And after you're done scrap the six mane then create a new Elements of Harmony ponies that take their place then repeat the same thing. I think that's a good marketing ploy.

[Ice Storm 1,020]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that no, I don't think that this was hasbro's idea at all.

 

Here's the thing, the entire proclaimed reason that Twilight became an Alicorn was because Hasbro wanted to sell more toys. However, I work at walmart, and frequent the MLP section. We have NO Alicorn Twilight toys at all.

 

And look at this here,

 

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12827431

 

This has everything from Twilight's Princess Coronation, except the wings. And if you search Twilight Sparkle on Toy R' Us, the name in toys, There is not a single piece of Twilicorn merchandise. Believe me, if this was Hasbro's idea for selling more toys, Walmart and TRU would be loaded with them.

 

No, I think that this was actually planned pretty much from the word go.

[Beta 42]

Since when has Hasbro really kept their toy line true to the show anyway? I've seen Ali Twi without wings, pink Celestia, Luna with pink hair & those horrid 'glimmer wing' ponies.

 

My point is, if they wanted to sell Alicorn Twilight toys, they just would have. Little girls are going to buy the toys either way. I personally think that it was intended from the beginning because it has been proven that Twi being Celestia's predecessor has been planned so making her an alicorn just makes sense.

[hawkflame 3,310]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that no, I don't think that this was hasbro's idea at all.

 

Here's the thing, the entire proclaimed reason that Twilight became an Alicorn was because Hasbro wanted to sell more toys. However, I work at walmart, and frequent the MLP section. We have NO Alicorn Twilight toys at all.

 

And look at this here,

 

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12827431

 

This has everything from Twilight's Princess Coronation, except the wings. And if you search Twilight Sparkle on Toy R' Us, the name in toys, There is not a single piece of Twilicorn merchandise. Believe me, if this was Hasbro's idea for selling more toys, Walmart and TRU would be loaded with them.

 

No, I think that this was actually planned pretty much from the word go.

 

 

...Okay, did you miss out on these somehow?

 

http://www.derpyhoovesnews.com/alicorn-twilight-toys-officially-announced/

 

 

Since when has Hasbro really kept their toy line true to the show anyway? I've seen Ali Twi without wings, pink Celestia, Luna with pink hair & those horrid 'glimmer wing' ponies.

 

My point is, if they wanted to sell Alicorn Twilight toys, they just would have. Little girls are going to buy the toys either way. I personally think that it was intended from the beginning because it has been proven that Twi being Celestia's predecessor has been planned so making her an alicorn just makes sense.

 

There have been several documented instances of Hasbro wanting to feature something in the show to promote the toy.  Twilight Sparkle's Twinkling Balloon?  Added to the show at Hasbro's request.  "Glimmer Wings" Rarity in "Sonic Rainboom"?  Ditto.  The Friendship Express train?  The whole Crystal Empire idea?  Same thing. 

 

So the idea that they don't use the show to promote the toyline is untrue.

[Veronica The Miffvixen 232]

I do not think it a coincidence that a toy release for Alicorn Sparkle coincided with the finale's change to her phylogyny.

[Queen Cassie 3,057]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that no, I don't think that this was hasbro's idea at all.

 

Here's the thing, the entire proclaimed reason that Twilight became an Alicorn was because Hasbro wanted to sell more toys. However, I work at walmart, and frequent the MLP section. We have NO Alicorn Twilight toys at all.

 

And look at this here,

 

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12827431

 

This has everything from Twilight's Princess Coronation, except the wings. And if you search Twilight Sparkle on Toy R' Us, the name in toys, There is not a single piece of Twilicorn merchandise. Believe me, if this was Hasbro's idea for selling more toys, Walmart and TRU would be loaded with them.

 

No, I think that this was actually planned pretty much from the word go.

I am going to say it's a little early to determine things just yet. We haven't quite seen the Alicorn Twilight toys unveiled in stores, but that doesn't mean they won't start flooding the shelves in a couple of months.

 

Although I'm not sure how that works for marketing purposes... personally I would expect that they'd want to time their toy release to coincide with the episode, so that little kids and others are pumped and want to get the toy(s) right then and there.

 

I mean it doesn't matter to me what the reason for Alicorn Twilight was. The fact that she's an Alicorn is all that matters. But I just hesitate to use this as evidence to say "This is what Lauren Faust intended from the beginning" because we don't know that's the case. All she's said was that she wanted Twilight to be Celestia's successor, and that could take all kinds of forms beyond just being an Alicorn.

[himanuts 165]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that no, I don't think that this was hasbro's idea at all.

 

Here's the thing, the entire proclaimed reason that Twilight became an Alicorn was because Hasbro wanted to sell more toys. However, I work at walmart, and frequent the MLP section. We have NO Alicorn Twilight toys at all.

 

And look at this here,

 

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12827431

 

This has everything from Twilight's Princess Coronation, except the wings. And if you search Twilight Sparkle on Toy R' Us, the name in toys, There is not a single piece of Twilicorn merchandise. Believe me, if this was Hasbro's idea for selling more toys, Walmart and TRU would be loaded with them.

 

No, I think that this was actually planned pretty much from the word go.

Dude the toy is to be released in August. If you work in retail you take notice that isles are changed twice a year. February and August. Usually entirely new toy lines or new line additions to previous toylines are released in August. Ofcourse Toys R Us has nothing listed. And TRU.com isn't the most trustworthy source. I work for that company. We sometimes get stuff in they haven't listed on their website.

[Commander_PonyShep 349]

Ever since I've learned that Lauren intended Twilight to be Celestia's successor, but not an alicorn princess, I'm coming to question as to who came up with the idea to turn Twilight into an alicorn princess.

 

Was it the writers who chose to turn Twilight into an alicorn princess, if only as the closest thing to Lauren's vision they could find?  Or, was it Hasbro's decision, just to market more toys?

 

I just hope it was McCarthy and her writers.  They've worked long and hard to stay true to Lauren Faust's vision, like they did with Wonderbolt Academy, when they had Rainbow go to the school of the episode's title to fulfill her dream of becoming a Wonderbolt.  So, I'm sure that they were trying to stay true to Lauren's vision for Twilight, even if there were some differences between what she planned out and what they actually gave us.

Edited May 28, 2013 by Commander_PonyShep

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

It's gonna be most likely Hasbro, for they're the ones responsible for the toy sales and everything else. They wanted to do it just for the almighty dollar. I knew that Twilight would become an alicorn at some point, but I didn't know it would be this early. This is why I say that Hasbro was the ones responsible for Twilicorn. 

[Commander_PonyShep 349]

It's gonna be most likely Hasbro, for they're the ones responsible for the toy sales and everything else. They wanted to do it just for the almighty dollar. I knew that Twilight would become an alicorn at some point, but I didn't know it would be this early. This is why I say that Hasbro was the ones responsible for Twilicorn. 

Judging by the way the writers presented us with Princess Twilight, that seemed highly unlikely.  I thought the writers were trying to stay true to Lauren's vision for Twilight, even if not everything matched it.

 

But really, should Lauren's plans for Twilight really matter?  Should I accept executive meddling, where every time we have art, there is always corporate morons interfering with that art?