cuteycindyhoney 13,307 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 Could be talking about normal shoes. Only on ponies making them... *sunglasses* Horseshoes. YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAH! Well, Applejack wanted galoshes to go with her Gala dress, and Rarity likes her boots even if the look was getting old in Winter wrap-up. These are both for warmth and water-proofing though. It doesn't cancel out the need or desire for traditional shoeing. Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krall 263 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 Okay everypony. Here is absolute undeniable proof! Princess Celestia herself uses glue-on boot style horse shoes! Of course hers are much more ornate then those an average pony would use! I wish people would stop saying that easily deniable proof is absolutely undeniable. Whether or not Ponies wear horseshoes or not is ambiguous, and there is no undeniable evidence that either interpretation is canonical at present. I assume that Ponies don't wear horseshoes for reasons previously stated, but there's no absolutely undeniable proof that they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 I wish people would stop saying that easily deniable proof is absolutely undeniable. Whether or not Ponies wear horseshoes or not is ambiguous, and there is no undeniable evidence that either interpretation is canonical at present. I assume that Ponies don't wear horseshoes for reasons previously stated, but there's no absolutely undeniable proof that they don't. You forgot one simple fact. I was joking about a CARTOON. Loosen up a bit, okay? Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krall 263 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 You forgot one simple fact. I was joking about a CARTOON. Loosen up a bit, okay? It's incredibly hard to tell when someone's joking and when someone's taking things too seriously sometimes. I apologise if I interpreted your intentions wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 (edited) It's incredibly hard to tell when someone's joking and when someone's taking things too seriously sometimes. I apologise if I interpreted your intentions wrongly. I'm just having fun. When I looked up gluing of horse shoes, I found that picture. I later started thinking it reminded me of Princess Celestia's ornamental golden hoof guards, so I inserted the picture into one with Celestia's hoof coverings shown prominently. That's all. I actually think the ponies have horse shoes, when convenient for the animators/story. It's all in good fun, no apology needed! I just realized I made that picture look like the Princess is endorsing a new line of hoof-wear! Did Rarity have something to do with this? Edited February 19, 2012 by cuteycindyhoney 2 Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenohay 318 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 Oh - just re-watched episode 12 (name slips my mind, this is where the Cutie Mark Crusaders first appear), Applebloom is working with Applejack at the market, and a few times Applejack stomps her hoof, and you hear metal! He's right! Call of the Cutie! 6:52 Applejack stomps the floor and it makes a metalic sound! I think that's more conclusive that any other proof here... Along with the horseshoe marks in Heart and Hooves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---------------------- 1,645 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 He's right! Call of the Cutie! 6:52 Applejack stomps the floor and it makes a metalic sound! I think that's more conclusive that any other proof here... Along with the horseshoe marks in Heart and Hooves Objection!!!!! The metallic sound was probably something else, ponies have stomped before and not metal was heard We have not seen these ponies ever ware horse shoes, you are going to need to present better evedince And yes, this is now a Phoenix wright court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Tail 808 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 (edited) I wish people would stop saying that easily deniable proof is absolutely undeniable. Whether or not Ponies wear horseshoes or not is ambiguous, and there is no undeniable evidence that either interpretation is canonical at present. I assume that Ponies don't wear horseshoes for reasons previously stated, but there's no absolutely undeniable proof that they don't. Technically, the only undeniable proof in the universe is in mathematics, and there's not even any proof it's related to physical reality So of course it's all controversial evidence. But I think of it like I posted earlier, when I did points for and against shoes. Except I want to add something to that earlier post, too: Evidence for shoes: + Horses wear shoes for the same reasons people do. Cracking whooves on hard rocks and all kinds of stuff could cause lots of serious pain, damage, injury, infection, etc. to what's one of the most important body parts for everyday use (they walk everywhere, too (pegasi aside), no vehicles.) So that's 5 points for shoes, one of them is very strong (countless horseshoe prints), three of them have no counter-argument, and one of the counter-arguments is hardly convincing (we say "shaking in our boots" even if the person's not wearing boots, but, people do sometimes wear boots, or that saying wouldn't exist). Not to mention, we have seen them on many occasions. Boots aside, Luna wears them clearly in her episode, and many times we've seen them on other characters like Celestia, royal guards, Mare Do Well, Twilight's Starswirl costume, etc. That's a different kind of shoe, true, but shoes do exist, I would assume those are more formal footwear and the metal horseshoes are more casual. And then, the only real good point against metal shoes is we don't see the ponies wearing them. (though we have seen them leave prints countless times) And I'll have to agree with what a number of people think: we may not see them, but that's just the animation style. Over-detailing it looks rather grotesque, and the entire show is done in a very minimalist, almost chibi-style. The amount of evidence for it far outweighs the evidence against. Objection!!!!! The metallic sound was probably something else, ponies have stomped before and not metal was heard We have not seen these ponies ever ware horse shoes, you are going to need to present better evedince And yes, this is now a Phoenix wright court See evidence listed above In addition; from my earlier post: Evidence for: +"...making sure our horseshoes match our hairbows..." - could be just an expression +"...shaking in her little horseshoes..." - could also be an expression, we say "shaking in her boots" when someone's not actually wearing boots. But this counter-argument isn't as convincing... +countless appearences in show of horseshoes +horse shoe print marks, multiple occasions Another item to the list: +metallic sound when Applejack stomped - we don't always hear metalic sounds +/- they don't always stomp, and it's probably because she stomped on a rock or something. You'd hear metal then, but not if it was just soft dirt. Anyways, The animators wouldn't have made the sound metallic for no reason. +/- lack of evidence is not evidence in and of itself. All the times they stomped and we didn't hear metal, does not undo the fact that we heard metal this time. You want more evidence? BOOTS! (Originally I was going to post a picture where all 6 were wearing shoes for the gala, but it was a really big picture. Whether or not they wear shoes is non-argument. Whether they wear metalic horseshoes normally is the real question.) http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCxyYNJUcBo&feature=related - Anyways, I almost want to say there's another reason people don't like the idea of them wearing shoes. Because there's a huge amount of evidence in favor of horseshoes, and we don't see them, but really to me it's rather clearly just the animation style... Why make that assumption? I see no reason why they wouldn't have any powerful bonding compounds to use. Besides, they have magic to assist their chemists. Besides again, why would it have to last years? Weeks or days would be enough. Everypony likes to change her shoes once in a while! I'll admit here I just want to see a scene where a filly like Applebloom runs around the house terrified at getting shoes put on, because it's just a cute little scene of hilarity that I've had happen many times in my distant past... And I made that assumption also because their technology is quiet a bit behind human 21st century tech... Edited February 19, 2012 by EASA - Dr. Braun I'm a student Royal Astrophysicist that loves kindness, rationality, curiosity, open-mindedness and deep intellectual discussions! Oh, and a nice quiet evening with a book, paper, quill, and some hot cocoa! 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Eenohay 318 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 (edited) Technically, the only undeniable proof in the universe is in mathematics, and there's not even any proof it's related to physical reality So of course it's all controversial evidence. But I think of it like I posted earlier, when I did points for and against shoes. Except I want to add something to that earlier post, too: Evidence for shoes: + Horses wear shoes for the same reasons people do. Cracking whooves on hard rocks and all kinds of stuff could cause lots of serious pain, damage, injury, infection, etc. to what's one of the most important body parts for everyday use (they walk everywhere, too (pegasi aside), no vehicles.) So that's 5 points for shoes, one of them is very strong (countless horseshoe prints), three of them have no counter-argument, and one of the counter-arguments is hardly convincing (we say "shaking in our boots" even if the person's not wearing boots, but, people do sometimes wear boots, or that saying wouldn't exist). Not to mention, we have seen them on many occasions. Boots aside, Luna wears them clearly in her episode, and many times we've seen them on other characters like Celestia, royal guards, Mare Do Well, Twilight's Starswirl costume, etc. That's a different kind of shoe, true, but shoes do exist, I would assume those are more formal footwear and the metal horseshoes are more casual. And then, the only real good point against metal shoes is we don't see the ponies wearing them. (though we have seen them leave prints countless times) And I'll have to agree with what a number of people think: we may not see them, but that's just the animation style. Over-detailing it looks rather grotesque, and the entire show is done in a very minimalist, almost chibi-style. The amount of evidence for it far outweighs the evidence against. See evidence listed above In addition; from my earlier post: Another item to the list: +metallic sound when Applejack stomped - we don't always hear metalic sounds +/- they don't always stomp, and it's probably because she stomped on a rock or something. You'd hear metal then, but not if it was just soft dirt. Anyways, The animators wouldn't have made the sound metallic for no reason. +/- lack of evidence is not evidence in and of itself. All the times they stomped and we didn't hear metal, does not undo the fact that we heard metal this time. You want more evidence? BOOTS! (Originally I was going to post a picture where all 6 were wearing shoes for the gala, but it was a really big picture. Whether or not they wear shoes is non-argument. Whether they wear metalic horseshoes normally is the real question.) http-~~-//www.youtube.c...feature=related - Anyways, I almost want to say there's another reason people don't like the idea of them wearing shoes. Because there's a huge amount of evidence in favor of horseshoes, and we don't see them, but really to me it's rather clearly just the animation style... I'll admit here I just want to see a scene where a filly like Applebloom runs around the house terrified at getting shoes put on, because it's just a cute little scene of hilarity that I've had happen many times in my distant past... And I made that assumption also because their technology is quiet a bit behind human 21st century tech... I must say, this guy did an excelent job gathering all of the proof. Everything points towards them wearing horseshoes. Metal horseshoes, like real life horses wear. The only real counter argument is that we do not see them, but that doesn't mean anything considering that besides Big Mac (and maybe some other pony with a special design) we don't even see their hooves, but that doesn't mean their legs are completely covered in a perfectly plain and homogeneus fur. Conclusion: They do wear horseshoes, we just cant see them. Edited February 19, 2012 by Eenohay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 February 19, 2012 Share February 19, 2012 And I made that assumption also because their technology is quiet a bit behind human 21st century tech... The first Cyanoacrylate based "Super-Glue" was invented in 1942. Magic assisted chemical research would have no problem coming up with it at an earlier stage in technological development. Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenohay 318 February 20, 2012 Share February 20, 2012 More: around 6:30 in Fall Weather Friends, horseshoe prints in the sand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Gear 6,663 February 20, 2012 Share February 20, 2012 (edited) I think that there is already a lot of evidence in this thread in favor of horseshoes, but no one has pointed this out yet, so I just figured I would contribute it. If there are horseshoes, then it makes sense that someone makes them, right? Welllll.... Take a look at the cutie marks on these ponies. Horseshoes! I bet that they are probably blacksmiths or something similar to that. Of course this doesn't conclusively *prove* that ponies wear horseshoes by itself, but taken with all of the other evidence in this thread.... Edit: Forgot to say. Screenshots of the bluish ponies are from Griffon the Brush Off and Call of the Cutie. I just had an image of caramel lying around that I included as well. Edited February 20, 2012 by HAL 9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Tail 808 February 20, 2012 Share February 20, 2012 (edited) The shape of their hoofprints wouldn't really prove anything, considering how horseshoes are the same shape as hooves. It's hard to tell whether most ponies are wearing horseshoes or not, as we can't really see their hooves at all, just their uniformly coloured, marshmallow-like legs and feet. However I would like to present two pieces of evidence that strongly suggest that ponies do not wear horseshoes. Point the first: There are a few ponies with exposed hooves like Big Mcintosh, and they do not appear to be wearing horseshoes, despite the fact that Big Mac is probably the pony that would need horseshoes the most, considering how he has to carry heavy loads and works in places with wet soil.. Point the second: In "A Dog and Pony Show" Rarity claims she refuses to dig quickly because she wants to preserve her "Pony pedi", which is presumably the Pony equivalent of a pedicure. If she were wearing metal horseshoes she would not have to worry about the state of her hoof. I don't think there's really definitive proof either way, but the balance of evidence seems to weigh in favour of the idea that they do not wear horseshoes, at least not normally. I've certainly never seen a Pony say or do something that inherently suggests that they are currently wearing horseshoes, and I find it far more likely that they just take good care of their hooves rather than nailing crescent-shaped pieces of metal to them on a regular basis Originally I was going to point to that very same instance as evidence for horseshoes. ("A Dog and Pony Show") Listen, the noises of her digging are very clearly metalic. That doesn't make her pedi invincible, and she could've just been putting on part of her show. As for the other point, once again, just animation style. We don't even see hooves on most of the ponies, but we still assume they're there... Edited February 20, 2012 by EASA - Dr. Braun I'm a student Royal Astrophysicist that loves kindness, rationality, curiosity, open-mindedness and deep intellectual discussions! Oh, and a nice quiet evening with a book, paper, quill, and some hot cocoa! A Deviantart Account: (and have been featured on EQD on multiple occasions) http://eagle1division.deviantart.com/ I have a fimfic: https://www.fimfiction.net/user/Star%20ScraperAnd I have a science tumblr! http://asksciencepony.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twi Rubix 726 February 21, 2012 Share February 21, 2012 (Hmm, whole discussion about horseshoes. ) What would they use horseshoes for if they wore them anyway? I don't think they actually have horseshoes, but if they did, Im going by what Enohay said. they are colored and blen with their coats, and they just dont show because of the way they are drawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 February 21, 2012 Share February 21, 2012 In this whole discussion, I forgot to mention something! I have an actual real aluminum horse shoe meant for a race horse. I found it in a pile of abandoned junk once years ago at the Columbus Farmers market, so I got it FREE! Right now it is hanging (open end up so the luck doesn't spill out) over our front door. Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vage 0 April 2, 2012 Share April 2, 2012 In Dragonshy Rainbow Dash says "I think we have bigger problems than making sure our hairbows match our horseshoes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedoraMemes 582 April 2, 2012 Share April 2, 2012 It's a fictional show, so anything could happen. They might not wear horseshoes, or it could've been something overlooked by the animators. If not, it may be that we can't see them wear them. The Anime Thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/20661-the-anime-thread/page__hl__the%20anime%20thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong 1,726 April 2, 2012 Share April 2, 2012 Horseshoes were invented to protect a horse's hooves from unnatural materials they were exposed to because of domestication. Considering we see hoof boots, which have basically the same purpose, we can assume that horseshoes don't exist in Equestria. Oh yeah, you probably don't know what a hoof boot is. Well, its basically a real shoe that horses can ware. Rather than being nailed to the hoof, it fits over the foot of the horse. We don't use those excessively because they can quickly cause discomfort. Of course, the ponies in this world can put on and remove their own hoof boots...somehow, so that wouldn't be an issue. Check out my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qXAcUzrizEHvorGalU5jg?feature=watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 April 2, 2012 Share April 2, 2012 Horseshoes were invented to protect a horse's hooves from unnatural materials they were exposed to because of domestication. Considering we see hoof boots, which have basically the same purpose, we can assume that horseshoes don't exist in Equestria. Oh yeah, you probably don't know what a hoof boot is. Well, its basically a real shoe that horses can ware. Rather than being nailed to the hoof, it fits over the foot of the horse. We don't use those excessively because they can quickly cause discomfort. Of course, the ponies in this world can put on and remove their own hoof boots...somehow, so that wouldn't be an issue. Three months ago I posted about boot type horse shoes, complete with pictures. Celestia and Luna use them all the time. Twilight Sparkle did at the Grand Galloping Gala. Quoting my own post! LOL Okay everypony. Here is absolute undeniable proof! Princess Celestia herself uses glue-on boot style horse shoes! Of course hers are much more ornate then those an average pony would use! 1 Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenohay 318 April 2, 2012 Share April 2, 2012 Wow, triple stealth merging. Anyways, we disscused this and I won. They do wear horseshoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargaze 8 April 2, 2012 Share April 2, 2012 Yeah, Id have to agree, but not completely. We have seen someponies' hooves, the bottoms too, and there is nothing there but the base of the hooves. That leads me to believe that someponies (Like Celestia, Luna, anypony with something on their hooves) wear horseshoes. Horseshoes seem relatively uncommon in Equestria. Looking back to season 1's finale, several, if not all of the mane 6 have hoofwear. I believe that in Equestria, horseshoes are much easier to manage, and are not nailed to the hoof, as they are in real life. Also taking into mind the episode where Dash and AJ were playing horseshoes, they do exist in their basest form. I think that there is already a lot of evidence in this thread in favor of horseshoes, but no one has pointed this out yet, so I just figured I would contribute it. If there are horseshoes, then it makes sense that someone makes them, right? Welllll.... Take a look at the cutie marks on these ponies. Horseshoes! I bet that they are probably blacksmiths or something similar to that. Of course this doesn't conclusively *prove* that ponies wear horseshoes by itself, but taken with all of the other evidence in this thread.... Edit: Forgot to say. Screenshots of the bluish ponies are from Griffon the Brush Off and Call of the Cutie. I just had an image of caramel lying around that I included as well. These cutie marks may also represent ability at the game horseshoes. The honest truth is, we may never know. Its all up to the creators on how these things play out. We fans have little to no say on how the series turns out. We only control our contribution to the ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daring Do 195 April 3, 2012 Share April 3, 2012 Think about it in our context... Would we rather wear sabots and clogs... or actual Sneakers, Converse, and all the other stuff? I'd like to think of Horseshoes to be the old-day hoof wear. Great adventuring for great treasures!....Except when I'm hurt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing392 61 April 3, 2012 Share April 3, 2012 (edited) Despite the evidence, I'm still not convinced that they wear horseshoes. It just seems like it would be awkward for them to wear them, with the simple flat end they have at each leg. Well, seeing as it is a cartoon, as long as the animators don't draw in horseshoes (that would look really strange), I don't think it matters much either way. Edited April 3, 2012 by matau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong 1,726 April 3, 2012 Share April 3, 2012 Three months ago I posted about boot type horse shoes, complete with pictures. Celestia and Luna use them all the time. Twilight Sparkle did at the Grand Galloping Gala. Quoting my own post! LOL I believe all the mane cast were waring hoof boots at the gala for style. On the self quote: what self respecting horse would let someone put a lime-green hoof boot on it? Check out my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qXAcUzrizEHvorGalU5jg?feature=watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 April 3, 2012 Share April 3, 2012 I believe all the mane cast were waring hoof boots at the gala for style. On the self quote: what self respecting horse would let someone put a lime-green hoof boot on it? I only remembered Twilight's for sure. Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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