Mare do well! why so much hate?!

[Mzukiller 233]

Honestly, I think the haters for this episode overreact. A lot like FPK haters overreact by bringing in...certain topics that can be "interpreted" by the episodes message. Look, I think that RD may have deserved the little snap back to reality. I mean she was going to hurt someone if this little Superhero shtick of hers kept on going. Now the way I see it, her friends tried to talk to her offscreen but let's be honest here, we all know RD's character, I sincerely doubt she would have listened. In fact, this is one of the episodes that convinced me that I truly dislike Rainbow Dash as a person.

 

And it's not like Dash ended up crying on the ground and everyone was laughing at her. Now IMO, this episode should've had a nice Superhero/Villain relationship between RD and MDW, and some comic book stuff.

 

@Sugar Cube

And that's another thing, the thrilling climax of the episode is them talking to Rainbow Dash? Really?

Edited August 6, 2013 by Mzukiller

[PinkieAwesome 66]

I loved it. It was an awesome episode.

[SteveMorison 407]

Tbh I found the episode to be very cringy at times and had some unsettling implications. Not one of my favourites.

[Tapfire 92]

I hated Mare do Well because Rainbow, the Element of Loyalty, was bieng a cocky, stuck up jerk. Not all that loyal, really. Also the rest of the mane 6 decided "Hey, you know how we can solve this? Doing exactly what she's doing and then slowly destroy her ego!" Yeah, no.

[PiratePony 8,485]

I'd love to see Mare Do Well return, although after Power Ponies she wouldn't seem as cool.

[FrozenSpark 47]

Why so much hate ? because this episode focused on Rainbow Dash's flaws (they are not pretty at all, I mean in Dragonshy she kicked the dragon making him angry and attacked everyone and she was proud of it when the dragon complained at Fluttershy, and thats only one example) and that made RD fans very mad because truth hurts so the only thing they could do is say that this episode is very bad.

[Dark Qiviut 22,500]

Why so much hate ? because this episode focused on Rainbow Dash's flaws (they are not pretty at all, I mean in Dragonshy she kicked the dragon making him angry and attacked everyone and she was proud of it when the dragon complained at Fluttershy, and thats only one example) and that made RD fans very mad because truth hurts so the only thing they could do is say that this episode is very bad.

You're objectively wrong, and your transparent strawman damages your opinion's credibility. One real reason is paired down to the comic in Sugar Cube's post:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are other reasons, too:

1. The writing is extremely rigid. Every single sequence uses the three strikes format. If you saw one set of threes, then you were going to see another and another and another. Afterwards, the work becomes extremely predictable at best and list-like at worst.
2. It's out of character for the ReMane Five to be passive-aggressive bastards, period. But the timing of it is even worse. There are citizens in danger, and the ReMane Five honestly believe that's the perfect time to be hypocrites, show her up, and make her look stupid. They used the ponies whose lives are in danger as a means to an end rather than an end in and of itself. Compare it to Celestia using The Crystal Empire and the ponies living in there as pawns for Twilight's potential ascension.
3. Rainbow Dash had to be told the moral to her face, because the others have done absolutely nothing to make Dash realize it or understand it.

Edited December 24, 2015 by Dark Qiviut

[FrozenSpark 47]

 

 

One real reason is paired down to the comic in Sugar Cube's post:

 

Talking about it wouldn't have been fun at all, that would be knowledge, learning from experience is imagination, thats a lot more efficient, seriously now an episode about lecturing Rainbow Dash ? I doubt that would have worked better than their plan.

[Dark Qiviut 22,500]

Talking about it wouldn't have been fun at all, that would be knowledge, learning from experience is imagination, thats a lot more efficient, seriously now an episode about lecturing Rainbow Dash ? I doubt that would have worked better than their plan.

How can we be sure she wouldn't listen if they never bothered to try it? You can't. This common assumption that she wouldn't listen falls flat.

[FrozenSpark 47]

How can we be sure she wouldn't listen if they never bothered to try it? You can't. This common assumption that she wouldn't listen falls flat.

 

Do you know who Rainbow Dash is ? some one who charges at dragons and empowered alicorns (Nightmare moon), trying to lecture and reason with some one as cocky and arrogant as Rainbow Dash is a waste of time...but you are right, we will never know if lecture would have worked...

[Dark Qiviut 22,500]

Do you know who Rainbow Dash is ? some one who charges at dragons and empowered alicorns (Nightmare moon), trying to lecture and reason with some one as cocky and arrogant as Rainbow Dash is a waste of time...but you are right, we will never know if lecture would have worked...

It doesn't matter what her canonical past is and the fact that she charged before. They still need to call her in on it first. The fact that they never even attempted to try to calm her down and played this disgusting trick behind her back without as much as a second thought puts them at more fault than her.

[FrozenSpark 47]

It doesn't matter what her canonical past is and the fact that she charged before. They still need to call her in on it first. The fact that they never even attempted to try to calm her down and played this disgusting trick behind her back without as much as a second thought puts them at more fault than her.

Rainbow Dash doesn't like being lectured, so they did the right thing, that way she learned from experience not words, if you think theres a chance RD would listen to lecture then thats fine its your right to believe that, freedom is above all.

[cider float 2,539]

I liked it. It shows just how capable each mane six was on their own and shows their abilities.

[Silver Stream. 708]

I will never understand why people hated this episode. I personally found it brilliant to teach an important lesson: Know your friends well enough to know WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T.

 

Rainbowdash has been shown countless times to act irrationally and doesn't do well with lectures or heeding warnings. Sure, at times she will listen when there is a serious need for it and she'll know that her way isn't the best, but in this case, fame was getting in her head and feeding her ego.

 

Whenever an individual is caught up in the moment, they WILL GET OUT OF CHARACTER. At least with most people especially with a personality similar to Rarity's and RD's. This isn't a BAD thing though....it's merely a common observation people need to understand.

 

Were they reckless for bashing down RD's ego? Yes. Was it a bit over the top? Yes. Did it work? YES. Why people saw it as cruel, I'll never understand. Obviously, any RD fan SHOULD know that RD wouldn't take a talk seriously if they were telling her she was becoming full of herself and need to take her ego down a few notches and not take her act of heroism as some fame-seeking stunt.

 

This proves they knew her and knew how to Pierce that skin of hers. Telling someone they are wrong is hardly ever easy and it's even harder to ACCEPT your faults as well. Their method worked....it's called tough love. It wasn't even cruel....they simply one-uped her which is something RD has no problem doing to others apparently whenever there is some sort of competition or challenge.

 

You know what would have been cruel and even more reckless? If they sabotaged an attempt from her causing ponies to get hurt then blame RD for failing. That would have taught her a lesson but it would have been a dick move and unforgivable.

 

 

True....sometimes indirect confrontation isn't always the best way to go in certain situations. It seems like a trend for the teacher to always leave the student in the dark till the very last second which can either end good or bad. Which van be frustrating for both the fans and student.

 

But in this case, it wasn't as terrible as some make it out to be.

 

Mare Do-Well was a good episode in my opinion.... great way to highlight how much they know a friend and what needed to be done even if it wasn't "easiest" or "rational" way to go.

[Denim&Venöm 19,650]

Boy, this is just turning into the Blue-Black/White-Gold dress of the fandom.

You like it cause it's a highlight of the mane 6 skills and character flaws, or you hate it cause of the flawed logic and all of them acting like hypocritical jerks to each other. 

[cider float 2,539]

They've already told Rainbow Dash over and over to stop blowing her head up like that. When words don't work you got to take action. 

[Megas 27,869]

They've already told Rainbow Dash over and over to stop blowing her head up like that

Except that never happened

[GeekySonic 1,150]

People hate it because they need something to hate. I get why there are those who do not like the episode (I liked it). But half the people getting worked up over it are overreacting. A lot.

[Justin_Case001 4,907]

I, for one, really liked it.  Sure, Rainbow's behavior was pretty over-the-top, but I thought it was fine because it was in line with her character, and more specifically, because she hadn't had a good lesson in humility yet.  And after this episode, she never went that overboard again.  She remained Rainbow, but within reason.  She didn't need to rel-earn the lesson over and over, so I thought it worked fine.

 

Besides, how can you not love an episode with references to Batman The Animated Series, and Spider Man?  So much Spider Man.  The best part was AJ's wagon rescue that parodied Spidey's amazing train stop in Spider-Man 2.

 

I seem to have a few episodes where I deviate greatly from the general fandom opinion.  Putting Your Hoof Down is another.  That seems to be one of the fandom's most hated episodes.  I thought it was great.

[Castle Bleck 19,390]

Dash's friends simply fell victim to a recurring writing flaw in this series: never just trying to talk things out first.

 

But other than that, good episode.

[bluseymoe 258]

They've already told Rainbow Dash over and over to stop blowing her head up like that. When words don't work you got to take action. 

Actually they never made a single attempt to talk to her about it. That's what pissed a lot of people off about what they did actually.

[cider float 2,539]

Actually they never made a single attempt to talk to her about it. That's what pissed a lot of people off about what they did actually.

True but I was thinking more in how Applejack has always told Rainbow she was full of it or by the other mane five's body language in other episodes so that's what I was thinking. It seems this was the best way to teach her a lesson. 

[ShadOBabe 19,014]

I haven't seen the episode in years, but I remember liking it.

I see a lot of people saying that the rest of the girls "hurt" Rainbow Dash.

She didn't look hurt to me. Just pouty that she wasn't getting the spotlight. And I kind of enjoyed watching her friends compliment Mare-Do-Well to mess with her. Have none of you guys ever poked fun at your friends when they're acting like a butt? It all seemed like a big prank to me.

 

Someone said that RD was flanderized by causing so much trouble just to keep her ego trip going.

She kind of caused a lot of trouble in Tanks for the Memories to keep her tortoise from going to sleep for a while.

Someone else said the Mane Six contradicted themselves by acting like RD.

I thought it was showing through example like with AJ in Simple Ways.

 

But I don't know. I guess I don't care that much.

It was a thing that happened. I wasn't much attached to the show emotionally when I watched it.

So my feelings were pretty much, "Haha!! That was fun. Silly ponies... okay on to the next episode."

(I started watching the show right at the end of the first season, so I was marathoning the whole thing.)

Edited December 26, 2015 by ShadOBabe

[cider float 2,539]

It was well deserved. I don't see how it was unjustified regardless if they talked about it or not. Rainbow Dash found it more important to sign autographs than save a pony falling to her doom and cared more for her fame than what she was doing to get that fame. In the beginning she was legit but afterwards she ate up the spotlight and saving ponies became a big publicity stunt.

[Sidral Mundet 1,666]

To me it's because they make everyone the antagonist and have no idea who we should be rooting for.  Rainbow Dash is obnoxious in the beginning and needs to learn a lesson in humility no doubt, but then you come to the cloud scene where she's deeply upset about being alone, and that's heartbreaking.  So you want to see the Mane 6 bring her down a peg, but then when you do it emotionally wreaks her, which then makes our sympathy jump to Rainbow Dash but then the episode goes back and says the Mane 6 are in the right, so at the end of the day you just hate the way everypony was acting and that's why I really dislike this episode.