IDW Has Seen the Season 4 Script and....

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,487]

That's good news. Or maybe bad..... If she is the same Twilight does that mean no character development whatsoever or just basically the same personality. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't know how I'm gonna wait another two months.

If that post is anything to go by, it is just her personality that is staying untouched. Rememebr the post? He said that she has new responsibilities, but she is keeping her adorkable personality. That is a great start. With this strategy, it won't alienate from the character and give her time to learn and grow AS a princess. Like I said above, I love character development and I really want to see it too, that is a reason to why I LOVE Twilicorn and I do think this is a start of advancement for her as a character and other things.

 

Just keep a positive atttude with it all, that is my best advice. I know my wording is horrible, so I apologize if this makes no sense. Basically, in a nutshell, we ARE getting character advancement here,but Twilight's personality will not dramatically change, which it shouldn't at this point. That is a great thing, in my opinion.  

[Dark Qiviut 22,401]

@@PoisonClaw, @@Scootalove, @@Shoboni, @@Kyoshi, @, @, @,

All of you killed the credibility of your opinions one hundred percent by tossing rightful criticisms of the Twilicorn as needless bitching, sarcastically dismissing said criticisms, and throwing around daft strawmen like "it's against their headcanon" and "accept change/they hate change," whether you stated it blatantly or not.

 

It's not about being "opposed to change" nor about about "how MMC damages their headcanon," but about how well or poor the execution of the change was handled. The Twilicorn's handling is rushed and tacked on; it doesn't belong one bit in a cramped, thirty-minute season finale that only added extra questions and made people wonder whether it could genuinely work or not. If Magical Mystery Cure was factually good, well-written, and not full of unneeded questions, the controversy would've been over the second after the finale ended. While you have the privilege to compliment, praise, and be happy about it, those against the Twilicorn and don't like the report's news have the privilege to criticize, critique, and complain in return. Only supporting one way and shooing good opposing reasons aside enforces a single-minded viewpoint, and I'm not going to sit back and tolerate that.

 

IDW's report doesn't settle those fears, and that's why those who on Equestion Daily were disappointed and upset, and they have every good reason to be. An alicorn princess isn't about holding a title. Alicorn princesses have serious responsibilities on their shoulders. Whatever they say or do affects everyone's everyday lives. Her being a princess isn't equivalent to current royalty in the United Kingdom. Royalty means something. Twilight is not only part of a new race. She's a part of a higher class status now, so ascension affects everyone around her (the rest of the Mane Six, her family, Canterlot, Ponyville, all of Equestria, et al.), and it should be greatly explored. If Twilight is merely the same character with only the "Princess" as a title and alicorn wings, it enforces two things:

1. It wastes potential, a common flaw in this series. You have a big change in her character. Follow through and show to your audience that her ascension is WORTH it and BELONGS in the series. Retaining the same status quo plus wings and title reinforces those thoughts and doesn't push the boundaries.
2. Her ascension is useless. MMC's purpose is to tell the audience the Twilicorn was worth it. It's one thing to take advantage of it in fanwork, but the canon is where the ideas can really come to life over a multitude of demographics. Keeping her as is with the excess baggage ages MMC extremely quickly.

Having her change is something Twilight SHOULD do. The Twilicorn is a factually bad concept that was badly executed, but unlike Equestria Girls, it's at least doable and full of opportunities to explore. But don't tell me it'll work. SHOW me it'll work. Show your audience the Twilicorn is worth everyone's time. Go through a bold, step-by-step process and make Twilight grow past her extremely adorkable self featured in season one through MMC and have her develop a stronger sense of maturity, responsibility, leadership, and ability to connect with her friends even more. Don't do it in piecemeal: You'll stagnate her growth and make your audience wonder if the team genuinely has a direction for her. Really leap it forward. Push the boundaries. She can remain adorkable, but keep it more subtle and have her develop further and further. Really develop her!

Retaining the status quo plus the extras attached makes it all pointless, insults the creative process, disrespects the roots of this generation, and wastes everyone's time.

Edited September 30, 2013 by Dark Qiviut

[NavelColt 22,880]

Great read, and truly nice to hear It's just saddening that I feel like too many people need super big, official people to give reviews on things from content they get to view before the public, in order to lesson their fears of alicorn Twi. Not saying there are any blatantly obvious examples here in this thread, but we all know the fandom is chock full of them. To that end, why anyone needs any legit, huge reason to not be absolutely convinced that the show itself is 'reaching an apocalypse' or some bullshit just because Twi is getting wings, or there's a new movie where ponies are human, or just about any kind of creative interest to do something new and different, now and again.

 

I'm going to be incredibly hipster when I say, 'Not having unyielding faith in the show writers is too manestream. Long live Meghan and staff new and old.'

[Bright Honor 2,671]

@@PoisonClaw, @@Scootalove, @@Shoboni, @@Kyoshi, @, @, @,

All of you killed the credibility of your opinions one hundred percent by tossing rightful criticisms of the Twilicorn as needless bitching, sarcastically dismissing said criticisms, and throwing around daft strawmen like "it's against their headcanon" and "accept change/they hate change" strawman, whether you stated it blatantly or not.

 

It's not about being opposed to change, but about how well or poor the execution of the change was handled. The Twilicorn's handling was rushed and tacked on; it didn't belong one bit in a cramped, thirty-minute season finale that only added extra questions and made people wonder whether it could genuinely work or not. While you have the privilege to compliment, praise, and be happy about it, those against the Twilicorn and don't like the report's news have the privilege to criticize, critique, and complain in return. Only supporting one way and not another enforces a single-minded viewpoint, and I'm not going to sit back and tolerate that.

 

IDW's report doesn't settle those fears. An alicorn princess isn't about holding a title. Alicorn princesses have serious responsibilities on their shoulders. Whatever they say or do affects everyone's everyday lives. Her being a princess isn't equivalent to current royalty in the United Kingdom. Royalty means something. Twilight is not only part of a new race. She's a part of a higher class status now, so ascension affects everyone around her (the rest of the Mane Six, her family, Canterlot, Ponyville, all of Equestria, et al.), and it should be greatly explored. If Twilight is merely the same character with only the "Princess" as a title and alicorn wings, it enforces two things:

1. It wastes potential, a common flaw in this series. You have a big change in her character. Follow through and show to your audience that her ascension is WORTH it and BELONGS in the series. Retaining the same status quo plus wings and title reinforces those thoughts and doesn't push the boundaries.
2. Her ascension is useless. MMC's purpose is to tell the audience the Twilicorn was worth it. It's one thing to take advantage of it in fanwork, but the canon is where the ideas can really come to life over a multitude of demographics. Keeping her as is with the excess baggage ages MMC extremely quickly.

Having her change is something Twilight SHOULD do. The Twilicorn is a factually bad concept that was badly executed, but unlike Equestria Girls, it's at least doable and full of opportunities to explore. But don't tell me it'll work. SHOW me it'll work. Show your audience the Twilicorn is worth everyone's time. Go through a bold, step-by-step process and make Twilight grow past her extremely adorkable self featured in season one through MMC and have her develop a stronger sense of maturity, responsibility, leadership, and ability to connect with her friends even more. Don't do it in piecemeal: You'll stagnate her growth and make your audience wonder if the team genuinely has a direction for her. Really leap it forward. Push the boundaries. She can remain adorkable, but keep it more subtle and have her develop further and further. Really develop her!

 

Retaining the status quo plus the extras attached makes it all pointless, insults the creative process, disrespects the roots of this generation, and wastes everyone's time.

 

I do agree that it could have been executed better and maybe it is a bit early to have her become a princess, but it doesn't change the fact that the hate towards it was rather unfair and hypocritical.

[Scootalove 10,689]

@@PoisonClaw, @@Scootalove, @@Shoboni, @@Kyoshi, @, @, @,

All of you killed the credibility of your opinions one hundred percent by tossing rightful criticisms of the Twilicorn as needless bitching, sarcastically dismissing said criticisms, and throwing around daft strawmen like "it's against their headcanon" and "accept change/they hate change," whether you stated it blatantly or not.

 

It's not about being "opposed to change" nor about about "how MMC damages their headcanon," but about how well or poor the execution of the change was handled. The Twilicorn's handling is rushed and tacked on; it doesn't belong one bit in a cramped, thirty-minute season finale that only added extra questions and made people wonder whether it could genuinely work or not. If Magical Mystery Cure was factually good, well-written, and not full of unneeded questions, the controversy would've been over the second after the finale ended. While you have the privilege to compliment, praise, and be happy about it, those against the Twilicorn and don't like the report's news have the privilege to criticize, critique, and complain in return. Only supporting one way and shooing good opposing reasons aside enforces a single-minded viewpoint, and I'm not going to sit back and tolerate that.

 

IDW's report doesn't settle those fears, and that's why those who on Equestion Daily were disappointed and upset, and they have every good reason to be. An alicorn princess isn't about holding a title. Alicorn princesses have serious responsibilities on their shoulders. Whatever they say or do affects everyone's everyday lives. Her being a princess isn't equivalent to current royalty in the United Kingdom. Royalty means something. Twilight is not only part of a new race. She's a part of a higher class status now, so ascension affects everyone around her (the rest of the Mane Six, her family, Canterlot, Ponyville, all of Equestria, et al.), and it should be greatly explored. If Twilight is merely the same character with only the "Princess" as a title and alicorn wings, it enforces two things:

1. It wastes potential, a common flaw in this series. You have a big change in her character. Follow through and show to your audience that her ascension is WORTH it and BELONGS in the series. Retaining the same status quo plus wings and title reinforces those thoughts and doesn't push the boundaries.
2. Her ascension is useless. MMC's purpose is to tell the audience the Twilicorn was worth it. It's one thing to take advantage of it in fanwork, but the canon is where the ideas can really come to life over a multitude of demographics. Keeping her as is with the excess baggage ages MMC extremely quickly.

Having her change is something Twilight SHOULD do. The Twilicorn is a factually bad concept that was badly executed, but unlike Equestria Girls, it's at least doable and full of opportunities to explore. But don't tell me it'll work. SHOW me it'll work. Show your audience the Twilicorn is worth everyone's time. Go through a bold, step-by-step process and make Twilight grow past her extremely adorkable self featured in season one through MMC and have her develop a stronger sense of maturity, responsibility, leadership, and ability to connect with her friends even more. Don't do it in piecemeal: You'll stagnate her growth and make your audience wonder if the team genuinely has a direction for her. Really leap it forward. Push the boundaries. She can remain adorkable, but keep it more subtle and have her develop further and further. Really develop her!

 

Retaining the status quo plus the extras attached makes it all pointless, insults the creative process, disrespects the roots of this generation, and wastes everyone's time.

Let me guess... did the thing that I said was wrong or bad? Just asking. It's just that the way you said it, sounds like I made a mistake.

[tlcbonaparte 15]

*shouts from the last row, standing closely to the door*

 

But not changing her character at all is not a sign of further character development or a growing personality!

 

 

 That's the thing though. We love Twilight as a character, changing her personality would be the wrong move to make. Yes she is now a princess, and that means her life is now different, but that doesn't mean she can't deal with these new problems as Twilight the smart nervous pony we all know and love. Character developments is a risky thing to do, mostly I think it should be used only to show the progress character is making to improve her short comings (as protagonist). And if they are going to show Twilight's growth, it should be about her trusting more in herself and her friends instead of relying on books all the time. Anything else would not sit right with me.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,487]

@@PoisonClaw, @@Scootalove, @@Shoboni, @@Kyoshi, @, @, @,

All of you killed the credibility of your opinions one hundred percent by tossing rightful criticisms of the Twilicorn as needless bitching, sarcastically dismissing said criticisms, and throwing around daft strawmen like "it's against their headcanon" and "accept change/they hate change" strawman, whether you stated it blatantly or not.

 

It's not about being opposed to change, but about how well or poor the execution of the change was handled. The Twilicorn's handling was rushed and tacked on; it didn't belong one bit in a cramped, thirty-minute season finale that only added extra questions and made people wonder whether it could genuinely work or not. While you have the privilege to compliment, praise, and be happy about it, those against the Twilicorn and don't like the report's news have the privilege to criticize, critique, and complain in return. Only supporting one way and not another enforces a single-minded viewpoint, and I'm not going to sit back and tolerate that.

 

IDW's report doesn't settle those fears. An alicorn princess isn't about holding a title. Alicorn princesses have serious responsibilities on their shoulders. Whatever they say or do affects everyone's everyday lives. Her being a princess isn't equivalent to current royalty in the United Kingdom. Royalty means something. Twilight is not only part of a new race. She's a part of a higher class status now, so ascension affects everyone around her (the rest of the Mane Six, her family, Canterlot, Ponyville, all of Equestria, et al.), and it should be greatly explored. If Twilight is merely the same character with only the "Princess" as a title and alicorn wings, it enforces two things:

1. It wastes potential, a common flaw in this series. You have a big change in her character. Follow through and show to your audience that her ascension is WORTH it and BELONGS in the series. Retaining the same status quo plus wings and title reinforces those thoughts and doesn't push the boundaries.
2. Her ascension is useless. MMC's purpose is to tell the audience the Twilicorn was worth it. It's one thing to take advantage of it in fanwork, but the canon is where the ideas can really come to life over a multitude of demographics. Keeping her as is with the excess baggage ages MMC extremely quickly.

Having her change is something Twilight SHOULD do. The Twilicorn is a factually bad concept that was badly executed, but unlike Equestria Girls, it's at least doable and full of opportunities to explore. But don't tell me it'll work. SHOW me it'll work. Show your audience the Twilicorn is worth everyone's time. Go through a bold, step-by-step process and make Twilight grow past her extremely adorkable self featured in season one through MMC and have her develop a stronger sense of maturity, responsibility, leadership, and ability to connect with her friends even more. Don't do it in piecemeal: You'll stagnate her growth and make your audience wonder if the team genuinely has a direction for her. Really leap it forward. Push the boundaries. She can remain adorkable, but keep it more subtle and have her develop further and further. Really develop her!

 

Retaining the status quo plus the extras attached makes it all pointless, insults the creative process, disrespects the roots of this generation, and wastes everyone's time.

Despite the EXTREME elitism on display here, I will repond to this. You are acting lke IDW is saying 'Twilight's personality is staying the same and so is EVERYTHING FOREVER!' WRONG, that is not what was said. What he said was that Twilight's PERSONALITY is not being radically affected by this. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. Why should TWilgiht's personality just change because she became a princess? She still has more to learn and she can develop further as a character with this. She can be a princess and still be her adorkable self, which is what they confirmed here. You want her to just have this personality that you crave right off the bat? That is stupid and jumping the gun, which is all you ever do. You also constantly make up excuses to ignore all of the opinions in support of this.

 

For fucks sake, give it a damn chance. I truly do not understand how you could possibily enjoy anything. Just because she is keeping her adorkable personality does't mean that they cannot advance and develop her further. Is her adorkkable personality incompatible with being a princess or something? Or is that just some random stipulation you just made up to have something to bitch about? No matter what is done, you probably will never be satisfied, knowing the odds.

 

My apoloigies everypony if I seem overly harsh there. I am just ired of this kind of nitpicking. NITPICKING, every little thing that is said and done in regards to the show. I just want to stay postive and that is what I think everypony else should do too. This is fantastic news and I thank IDW for saying this. We have so much to look forward and be happy about.

Edited September 30, 2013 by Kyoshi

[tlcbonaparte 15]

Has anyone watched this show?

 

It's a show called Chuck, and it was one of the best show I ever seen, Until season 3. The writing team for the show wanted to shake things up and made the main character a much more useful and powerful character, and to go with that they made his personality different. And it crashed and burnt.

 

Those of you who want to shake things up, please take Chuck as a precautionary tale. Characters make or break a story or franchise. It is one of the most important parts of a show. You DON'T want to mess with that,

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

@@PoisonClaw, @@Scootalove, @@Shoboni, @@Kyoshi, @, @, @,

All of you killed the credibility of your opinions one hundred percent by tossing rightful criticisms of the Twilicorn as needless bitching, sarcastically dismissing said criticisms, and throwing around daft strawmen like "it's against their headcanon" and "accept change/they hate change," whether you stated it blatantly or not.

 

It's not about being "opposed to change" nor about about "how MMC damages their headcanon," but about how well or poor the execution of the change was handled. The Twilicorn's handling is rushed and tacked on; it doesn't belong one bit in a cramped, thirty-minute season finale that only added extra questions and made people wonder whether it could genuinely work or not. If Magical Mystery Cure was factually good, well-written, and not full of unneeded questions, the controversy would've been over the second after the finale ended. While you have the privilege to compliment, praise, and be happy about it, those against the Twilicorn and don't like the report's news have the privilege to criticize, critique, and complain in return. Only supporting one way and shooing good opposing reasons aside enforces a single-minded viewpoint, and I'm not going to sit back and tolerate that.

 

IDW's report doesn't settle those fears, and that's why those who on Equestion Daily were disappointed and upset, and they have every good reason to be. An alicorn princess isn't about holding a title. Alicorn princesses have serious responsibilities on their shoulders. Whatever they say or do affects everyone's everyday lives. Her being a princess isn't equivalent to current royalty in the United Kingdom. Royalty means something. Twilight is not only part of a new race. She's a part of a higher class status now, so ascension affects everyone around her (the rest of the Mane Six, her family, Canterlot, Ponyville, all of Equestria, et al.), and it should be greatly explored. If Twilight is merely the same character with only the "Princess" as a title and alicorn wings, it enforces two things:

1. It wastes potential, a common flaw in this series. You have a big change in her character. Follow through and show to your audience that her ascension is WORTH it and BELONGS in the series. Retaining the same status quo plus wings and title reinforces those thoughts and doesn't push the boundaries.
2. Her ascension is useless. MMC's purpose is to tell the audience the Twilicorn was worth it. It's one thing to take advantage of it in fanwork, but the canon is where the ideas can really come to life over a multitude of demographics. Keeping her as is with the excess baggage ages MMC extremely quickly.

Having her change is something Twilight SHOULD do. The Twilicorn is a factually bad concept that was badly executed, but unlike Equestria Girls, it's at least doable and full of opportunities to explore. But don't tell me it'll work. SHOW me it'll work. Show your audience the Twilicorn is worth everyone's time. Go through a bold, step-by-step process and make Twilight grow past her extremely adorkable self featured in season one through MMC and have her develop a stronger sense of maturity, responsibility, leadership, and ability to connect with her friends even more. Don't do it in piecemeal: You'll stagnate her growth and make your audience wonder if the team genuinely has a direction for her. Really leap it forward. Push the boundaries. She can remain adorkable, but keep it more subtle and have her develop further and further. Really develop her!

 

Retaining the status quo plus the extras attached makes it all pointless, insults the creative process, disrespects the roots of this generation, and wastes everyone's time.

 

 

I think your failing to see to see the point, they have a good chance to show that appearance or status doesn't change you are inside, and reinforcing that she isn't better than everyone else. and the reason I say that is because I actually see her developing and the writing taking risks and getting better while all these people against it just simply don't want change and refuse to shut up about it. 

 

And that's exactly the case, you don't how many times I've heard people complain that it's killing her, or destroying her character, or just "waaaah, she won't ever be the same again." You may not be able to see it from your side, but I can.  

[long gone 8,929]

@@PoisonClaw, @@Scootalove, @@Shoboni, @@Kyoshi, @, @, @,

All of you killed the credibility of your opinions one hundred percent by tossing rightful criticisms of the Twilicorn as needless bitching, sarcastically dismissing said criticisms, and throwing around daft strawmen like "it's against their headcanon" and "accept change/they hate change," whether you stated it blatantly or not.

 

It's not about being "opposed to change" nor about about "how MMC damages their headcanon," but about how well or poor the execution of the change was handled. The Twilicorn's handling is rushed and tacked on; it doesn't belong one bit in a cramped, thirty-minute season finale that only added extra questions and made people wonder whether it could genuinely work or not. If Magical Mystery Cure was factually good, well-written, and not full of unneeded questions, the controversy would've been over the second after the finale ended. While you have the privilege to compliment, praise, and be happy about it, those against the Twilicorn and don't like the report's news have the privilege to criticize, critique, and complain in return. Only supporting one way and shooing good opposing reasons aside enforces a single-minded viewpoint, and I'm not going to sit back and tolerate that.

 

IDW's report doesn't settle those fears, and that's why those who on Equestion Daily were disappointed and upset, and they have every good reason to be. An alicorn princess isn't about holding a title. Alicorn princesses have serious responsibilities on their shoulders. Whatever they say or do affects everyone's everyday lives. Her being a princess isn't equivalent to current royalty in the United Kingdom. Royalty means something. Twilight is not only part of a new race. She's a part of a higher class status now, so ascension affects everyone around her (the rest of the Mane Six, her family, Canterlot, Ponyville, all of Equestria, et al.), and it should be greatly explored. If Twilight is merely the same character with only the "Princess" as a title and alicorn wings, it enforces two things:

1. It wastes potential, a common flaw in this series. You have a big change in her character. Follow through and show to your audience that her ascension is WORTH it and BELONGS in the series. Retaining the same status quo plus wings and title reinforces those thoughts and doesn't push the boundaries.
2. Her ascension is useless. MMC's purpose is to tell the audience the Twilicorn was worth it. It's one thing to take advantage of it in fanwork, but the canon is where the ideas can really come to life over a multitude of demographics. Keeping her as is with the excess baggage ages MMC extremely quickly.

Having her change is something Twilight SHOULD do. The Twilicorn is a factually bad concept that was badly executed, but unlike Equestria Girls, it's at least doable and full of opportunities to explore. But don't tell me it'll work. SHOW me it'll work. Show your audience the Twilicorn is worth everyone's time. Go through a bold, step-by-step process and make Twilight grow past her extremely adorkable self featured in season one through MMC and have her develop a stronger sense of maturity, responsibility, leadership, and ability to connect with her friends even more. Don't do it in piecemeal: You'll stagnate her growth and make your audience wonder if the team genuinely has a direction for her. Really leap it forward. Push the boundaries. She can remain adorkable, but keep it more subtle and have her develop further and further. Really develop her!

 

Retaining the status quo plus the extras attached makes it all pointless, insults the creative process, disrespects the roots of this generation, and wastes everyone's time.

You do realize that the first two episodes of season 4 are going to pick up where MMC left off, right? When I was at Ponyville (when people there still cared about ponies) I had to constantly stress this post-MMC and that any questions we still have will be answered in season 4. Further, you're missing the point. Just because Twilight has wings now, doesn't mean her personality will change. This makes perfect sense. Your personality doesn't change when you get a college diploma, even though you're pretty much expected to move out of your home and live on your own at that point. Your personality doesn't change when you get a driver's license, even though you're expected to drive past then. Why would Twilight's personality change because she's an alicorn now? Yes, she now has a huge responsibility ahead of her now, but as I said. In the real world, your personality doesn't change when something big like you graduating college and getting certifications in something or you get a driver's license; both of those are pretty big things.

 

The bottom line is, Twilight ain't changing, and any questions you and the rest of the fandom have will be answered in season 4. Just give it a rest already.

 

I also apologize if I sound a little harsh here, but I'm personally tired of the constant whining about Twilicorn and how character development "ruined" the show. It didn't.

Edited September 30, 2013 by Daring

[FNGRpony 658]

If i may.  I've never been soar on alicorn twilight.

 

I just wasn't big on that episode.  It was alot of singing.    In all honesty I would have taken mary sue twilight beating up Chyselais single handed over Glee twilight any day of the week and twice on Monday.

 

Alicorn twilight isn't gonna bother me until well, she does LOL.

Is Candice really O.P?

Is Luna really game changing?

 

To me the alicorn club is really the coach warmer society.  Congrats you've evolved into a door stop.

the funny thing is i think fans would be happier with that LOL.

[Ficta_Scriptor 165]

Has anyone watched this show?

 

It's a show called Chuck, and it was one of the best show I ever seen, Until season 3. The writing team for the show wanted to shake things up and made the main character a much more useful and powerful character, and to go with that they made his personality different. And it crashed and burnt.

 

Those of you who want to shake things up, please take Chuck as a precautionary tale. Characters make or break a story or franchise. It is one of the most important parts of a show. You DON'T want to mess with that,

 

But the main character from Chuck didn't become chairman of the FBI. That's the issue most of us have. If Twilight attaining the highest known rank in all of Equestria doesn't change much then it'll feel like there was no point in even giving her that title in the first place. Of course, none of us have seen season 4, so I could very well be missing something, but right now I can only go off quotes from writers and others involved.

 

 

Despite the EXTREME elitism on display here, I will repond to this. You are acting lke IDW is saying 'Twilight's personality is staying the same and so is EVERYTHING FOREVER!' WRONG, that is not what was said. What he said was that Twilight's PERSONALITY is not being radically affected by this. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. Why should TWilgiht's personality just change because she became a princess? She still has more to learn and she can develop further as a character with this. She can be a princess and still be her adorkable self, which is what they confirmed here. You want her to just have this personality that you crave right off the bat? That is stupid and jumping the gun, which is all you ever do. You also constantly make up excuses to ignore all of the opinions in support of this.

 

For fucks sake, give it a damn chance. I truly do not understand how you could possibily enjoy anything. Just because she is keeping her adorkable personality does't mean that they cannot advance and develop her further. Is her adorkkable personality incompatible with being a princess or something? Or is that just some random stipulation you just made up to have something to bitch about? No matter what is done, you probably will never be satisfied, knowing the odds.

 

My apoloigies everypony if I seem overly harsh there. I am just ired of this kind of nitpicking. NITPICKING, every little thing that is said and done in regards to the show. I just want to stay postive and that is what I think everypony else should do too. This is fantastic news and I thank IDW for saying this. We have so much to look forward and be happy about.

 

I kind of disagree on many points. I can personally say that my personality has changed greatly over the course of my life, and if I became one of the most powerful men in Britain you can bet that my personality would change even more. In terms of the show, it would make sense to keep her personality very similar. Though Dark Quivit never even made a comment about Twilight's personality in the first place, so I have no idea why you brought that up in argument against him.

 

Secondly, Dark Quivit is giving it a chance. He's still here, isn't he? Reading up on season 4 info? If he wasn't giving it a chance he'd have waved goodbye to the fandom long ago. The truth is he's waiting for season 4, but he's nervous about the outcome based on what we've seen so far and what we've heard about the script. That seems like a pretty understandable reaction. Your comments about "I truly do not understand how you could possibly enjoy anything" and "No matter what is done, you probably will never be satisfied" just make it sound like you're a naive child trying to insult him for not liking the things you like.

 

As for calling genuine constructive criticism 'nitpicking', I'm left too baffled to even argue.

 

I think your failing to see to see the point, they have a good chance to show that appearance or status doesn't change you are inside, and reinforcing that she isn't better than everyone else. and the reason I say that is because I actually see her developing and the writing taking risks

 

Okay, so far so good. The message that while things may change, friendship stays the same is a great lesson. I'd definitely like to see that. As for the writing taking risks, that's fine too. You know, you've actually...

 

 

all these people against it just simply don't want change and refuse to shut up about it. 

 

And that's exactly the case, you don't how many times I've heard people complain that it's killing her, or destroying her character, or just "waaaah, she won't ever be the same again." You may not be able to see it from your side, but I can.  

 

...and now I realise that you've just ignored everything that's been said in lieu of your own misguided assumptions. Damn. You were doing so well!

 

You do realize that the first two episodes of season 4 are going to pick up where MMC left off, right? When I was at Ponyville (when people there still cared about ponies) I had to constantly stress this post-MMC and that any questions we still have will be answered in season 4. Further, you're missing the point. Just because Twilight has wings now, doesn't mean her personality will change. This makes perfect sense. Your personality doesn't change when you get a college diploma, even though you're pretty much expected to move out of your home and live on your own at that point. Your personality doesn't change when you get a driver's license, even though you're expected to drive past then. Why would Twilight's personality change because she's an alicorn now? Yes, she now has a huge responsibility ahead of her now, but as I said. In the real world, your personality doesn't change when something big like you graduating college and getting certifications in something or you get a driver's license; both of those are pretty big things.

 

The bottom line is, Twilight ain't changing, and any questions you and the rest of the fandom have will be answered in season 4. Just give it a rest already.

 

I also apologize if I sound a little harsh here, but I'm personally tired of the constant whining about Twilicorn and how character development "ruined" the show. It didn't.

 

People don't change instantly at the turn of a new accomplishment, but over time, people can change significantly. I would actually like to see Twilight's personality change because it would make sense. But if it didn't, I wouldn't mind too much. That's never been the real issue, personally.

 

Now, you do make it sound like you're saying nobody is allowed to comment on Twilicorn until season 4. Really? The seven months that've gone by so far, and people aren't allowed to express concerns just because the S4 premiere is considered a 3 parter with MMC? People should just zip their mouths shut and wait? Seriously?

[tlcbonaparte 15]

But the main character from Chuck didn't become chairman of the FBI. That's the issue most of us have. If Twilight attaining the highest known rank in all of Equestria doesn't change much then it'll feel like there was no point in even giving her that title in the first place. Of course, none of us have seen season 4, so I could very well be missing something, but right now I can only go off quotes from writers and others involved.

 

 

 

That's a superficial difference. What I meant by the example is that this is a turning point in a show's life, it's extremely delicate. I understand people want to shake things up in the face of such huge changes, Chuck is my way of telling you guys what could go wrong.

 

I believe characters in the show are as much if not more important than the plot. While plots are ever changing, Personalities of a show's protagonists should remain the same like a pillar holding up a ever changing sky of plot.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,487]

But the main character from Chuck didn't become chairman of the FBI. That's the issue most of us have. If Twilight attaining the highest known rank in all of Equestria doesn't change much then it'll feel like there was no point in even giving her that title in the first place. Of course, none of us have seen season 4, so I could very well be missing something, but right now I can only go off quotes from writers and others involved.

 

 

 

 

I kind of disagree on many points. I can personally say that my personality has changed greatly over the course of my life, and if I became one of the most powerful men in Britain you can bet that my personality would change even more. In terms of the show, it would make sense to keep her personality very similar. Though Dark Quivit never even made a comment about Twilight's personality in the first place, so I have no idea why you brought that up in argument against him.

 

Secondly, Dark Quivit is giving it a chance. He's still here, isn't he? Reading up on season 4 info? If he wasn't giving it a chance he'd have waved goodbye to the fandom long ago. The truth is he's waiting for season 4, but he's nervous about the outcome based on what we've seen so far and what we've heard about the script. That seems like a pretty understandable reaction. Your comments about "I truly do not understand how you could possibly enjoy anything" and "No matter what is done, you probably will never be satisfied" just make it sound like you're a naive child trying to insult him for not liking the things you like.

 

As for calling genuine constructive criticism 'nitpicking', I'm left too baffled to even argue.

 

 

 

Okay, so far so good. The message that while things may change, friendship stays the same is a great lesson. I'd definitely like to see that. As for the writing taking risks, that's fine too. You know, you've actually...

 

 

 

 

...and now I realise that you've just ignored everything that's been said in lieu of your own misguided assumptions. Damn. You were doing so well!

 

 

 

People don't change instantly at the turn of a new accomplishment, but over time, people can change significantly. I would actually like to see Twilight's personality change because it would make sense. But if it didn't, I wouldn't mind too much. That's never been the real issue, personally.

 

Now, you do make it sound like you're saying nobody is allowed to comment on Twilicorn until season 4. Really? The seven months that've gone by so far, and people aren't allowed to express concerns just because the S4 premiere is considered a 3 parter with MMC? People should just zip their mouths shut and wait? Seriously?

The thing is, if I recall correctly, prior to this post by Bobby, having her personality dramatically was what people like Qiviut were bitching about in the first place. First it was her being overpowered, Mary Sue thing and her being better than all of her friends and her friends mean nothing.

 

Now that we have news that those things are NOT true, boom, the argument flips a complete 180 and now they WANT dramatic change. Seriously? Also, "Go through a bold, step-by-step process and make Twilight grow past her extremely adorkable self featured in season one through MMC and have her develop a stronger sense of maturity, responsibility, leadership, and ability to connect with her friends even more." This is where Qiviut mentioned her personality as if it is somehow 'incompatible' with her being a princess. We don't know that at all. It could work just fine, I don't see why not. AT LEAST, it could for now. Maybe this kind of development is being planned? I don't exactly care either way on that front as I do like Twilight's current personality anyways so if they can make that work with her being a princess, than that is great too. If they change her personality over time for development purposes, then that is fine too if they do it right.

 

Constantly saying 'do this, do that!!' After every little thing that is confirmed for season 4, it gets a little annoying. I say, lighten up and keep your expectations open. Have faith in the writers. Of course, Qiviut is basing all of this hatred on a single episode apparently and that alone is kinda stupid, but if he really wants to give it a chance, then he needs to stop bitching about every new little detail that is revealed because he apparently has not liked ANY of the new info so far. He is allowed to express his opinion just fine, but we can say how annoying it is as well. All is well I suppose.

[Ficta_Scriptor 165]

The thing is, if I recall correctly, prior to this post by Bobby, having her personality dramatically was what people like Qiviut were bitching about in the first place. First it was her being overpowered, Mary Sue thing and her being better than all of her friends and her friends mean nothing.

 

Now that we have news that those things are NOT true, boom, the argument flips a complete 180 and now they WANT dramatic change. Seriously? Also, "Go through a bold, step-by-step process and make Twilight grow past her extremely adorkable self featured in season one through MMC and have her develop a stronger sense of maturity, responsibility, leadership, and ability to connect with her friends even more." This is where Qiviut mentioned her personality as if it is somehow 'incompatible' with her being a princess. We don't know that at all. It could work just fine, I don't see why not. AT LEAST, it could for now. Maybe this kind of development is being planned? I don't exactly care either way on that front as I do like Twilight's current personality anyways so if they can make that work with her being a princess, than that is great too. If they change her personality over time for development purposes, then that is fine too if they do it right.

 

Constantly saying 'do this, do that!!' After every little thing that is confirmed for season 4, it gets a little annoying. I say, lighten up and keep your expectations open. Have faith in the writers. Of course, Qiviut is basing all of this hatred on a single episode apparently and that alone is kinda stupid, but if he really wants to give it a chance, then he needs to stop bitching about every new little detail that is revealed because he apparently has not liked ANY of the new info so far. He is allowed to express his opinion just fine, but we can say how annoying it is as well. All is well I suppose.

 

Different people want different things, and I don't think it's fair to say that 'everyone has done a 180.' There are still many bronies who don't like Twilicorn who want as little change as possible. Different people have different ideals for how they want Twilicorn to be handled. I don't think it's fair to lump every single person with Twilicorn issues into one group of the exact same mindset. Different people have different feelings about it, and some things bother some people more than others. Some people have no problem with the wings, but have a problem with her title, while for some it is the other way around. The writers can take any direction they want with it, and some people will happen to not like it because it's not how they'd have wanted it handled. It's impossible for the writers to please everyone.

 

When I first saw MMC I wasn't sure what I wanted from the series as I was pretty disappointed with Twilicorn's execution, but not too long after that I concluded that I wouldn't be too happy with season 4 being the same but with a winged Twilight, and considered that I would be more excited if the writers fully embraced the change and broke new ground. That's not an opinion everyone holds, but it's the one I've had for pretty much the last six months, so I've not 'done a 180' in that sense.

 

As for Dark Quivit's mention of personality... You got me. -_____- I apologise for getting snooty about that topic.

 

As for your final paragraph, I personally can't put my faith in the writers. For me (and I must stress, this is from my personal experience) it would be like trusting a convicted burglar to look after my house for a week while I go on holiday. I was underwhelmed with season 3 as a whole, (except for Sleepless in Ponyville which was amazing) I thought the finale handled Twilight's ascension horribly and played out like a bad fanfic, and I was thoroughly disappointed in Equestria Girls. I'm all for keeping my chin up, but it's hard for me to trust the writers at this point. (Though I can hardly wait for the Apple Family episode. LOVE THAT SONG!)

 

I think at the end of the day, you're annoyed with people bashing the show and I'm annoyed with people delivering unneeded put-downs to people who aren't happy about Twilicorn. One mention that I'm not a fan of the change and it's like I've shouted the N-word in the middle of a crowded church. I'm not angry. I'm scared. Joining this fandom was one of the best experiences of my life. The last thing I want is to stop liking it altogether, but the last thing I'll do to try and stop that from happening is lie to myself.

 

Whew... I actually feel better getting all this stuff off my chest.

[Misterian 118]

That's a superficial difference. What I meant by the example is that this is a turning point in a show's life, it's extremely delicate. I understand people want to shake things up in the face of such huge changes, Chuck is my way of telling you guys what could go wrong.

 

I believe characters in the show are as much if not more important than the plot. While plots are ever changing, Personalities of a show's protagonists should remain the same like a pillar holding up a ever changing sky of plot.

I agree, and even if a character should be given further development, there are ways to do so while still keeping the key qualities that are liked about said character.

 

One great example is Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite

 

Without wishing to spoil anything, Elizabeth undergos a lengthy and strong character arc throughout the game, she starts out being naive yet highly intelligent, very nice and friendly, and carries a strong uplifting air about her that you more commonly see in most Disney princesses despite being in an M-rated video game.

 

Yet as she learns more about her past, combined with learning more and more about the city of Columbia's darker side and the bond she forms with Booker Dewitt, she develops accordingly.

 

By the later half of the game, she continues to kepp her intelligence, yet her naivete becomes gradually replaced with her forming a more realistic point of view, She always desires to do the right thing in a situation, yet comes to understand how things aren't always that simple, and as Booker (and by extension, you, the player,) starts to become more attached to Elizabeth, she, in turn, becomes more and more fond and appreciative toward Booker (and, again, the player by extension).

 

Or heck, if you want an example from MLP, Rainbow Dash during the 'Wonderbolt Academy' has shown that she has learned in previous episodes how being too reckless and overconfident can have serious consequences, and while she still remains the thrill-loving pegasus many of us know and love, she has shown in some occasional yet vital points to now know when there moments where one should be cautious.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

 

 

 

Okay, so far so good. The message that while things may change, friendship stays the same is a great lesson. I'd definitely like to see that. As for the writing taking risks, that's fine too. You know, you've actually...

 

 

 

...and now I realise that you've just ignored everything that's been said in lieu of your own misguided assumptions. Damn. You were doing so well!

 

 

No I'm not, I was active here when it hit the fan. You cannot even begin to understand to absurdity of some of the arguments against it I saw. It sounded like people preaching about the freakin' end of days. It was like a bad parody of negative fan reactions, Hell, did you see how Chad Loco(the familler faces guy) took Season 3? He called everyone that liked it lowest common denominator trash that ate up anything the writers gave them. He all but turned his back on the entire fandom and show after praising the show in his MLP retrospective just because of Twicorn. 

 

That's my issue, it's the not the disagreement but the absurd over-reacting. 

Edited September 30, 2013 by Shoboni

[BlinkZ 1,151]

Well i'm greatfully releaved then.  At least we know that the show in it center will be the same. Sure a new coat of paint, but the same content we all (well almost all) come to love from mlp.

[Nature's Spell 526]

It would have been wiser to just accept and enjoy right from the start, but angst and human nature won out in the end. Maybe the anti princess stuff can finally go away! I'm surprised people still reply to those threads honestly.

[Java Jive 440]

It's good to see that issue put to rest. I couldn't have imagined otherwise for Twilight's personality. For her to forsake what brought her in that position in the first place would've been crazy. They are after all the source of her strength and i also think Celestia as a character acknowledges that. And yes, she did went up the ladder a step, but i can see her asking her friends and Ponyville alike to just treat her like they always did, that is if i can assume she will stay living at the same place. That's what i think when i see they are keeping the same dynamics intact, or atleast part of it.

 

As long as the remaining cast wont turn into "filler" characters and keep having their worth/contributions, then i'm fine with that. It may be an out of place comparison, but if you ever watched the Dragonball series, you know what happened to the characters that mattered in the first series when Goku went blondie on everyone, a large number of them became obsolete... For the most part.

 

Ofcourse, i really doubt the rest of the main 6 get the same treatment like that example. I just see some similarities. I have faith that S4 will receive it's fair share of love when all is said and done. Even though i always thought the Twilicorn thing was done a tad too hastily and she could've developed without. It is how it is, so lets see what they've done with it.

[cuteycindyhoney 13,307]

Doctor Who fans handle change a heck of a lot better than Bronies do. What's a pair of wings when stacked up against the main character suddenly looking entirely different, and having a new personality?

(Twilight should have a TARDIS!)

[Bright Honor 2,671]

Doctor Who fans handle change a heck of a lot better than Bronies do. What's a pair of wings when stacked up against the main character suddenly looking entirely different, and having a new personality?

(Twilight should have a TARDIS!)

 

This. Plus, Power Rangers changes characters, etc. basically EVERY SEASON. New zords, new theme, new enemy, new plot, etc.

 

This "change" ain't got nothing on PR lol.

[Ficta_Scriptor 165]

No I'm not, I was active here when it hit the fan. You cannot even begin to understand to absurdity of some of the arguments against it I saw. It sounded like people preaching about the freakin' end of days. It was like a bad parody of negative fan reactions, Hell, did you see how Chad Loco(the familler faces guy) took Season 3? He called everyone that liked it lowest common denominator trash that ate up anything the writers gave them. He all but turned his back on the entire fandom and show after praising the show in his MLP retrospective just because of Twicorn. 

 

That's my issue, it's the not the disagreement but the absurd over-reacting. 

 

You're lumping everyone who has issues with Twilicorn into one big group. I completely agree with you that some people were overreacting and spouting crap. I've spoken to a few Twilicorn haters on this site who I thought were utter morons. But what you're doing is taking one look at anyone who dislikes Twilicorn and instantly assuming them to be the same as those egotistical, arrogant, closed-minded people from your darkest memories. If you want to reference people like that, fine.Hell, I'll gladly make fun of them with you. But when you attribute that sort of behavior to anyone who criticises the show, then like I said before, you're making misguided assumptions.

 

 

Doctor Who fans handle change a heck of a lot better than Bronies do. What's a pair of wings when stacked up against the main character suddenly looking entirely different, and having a new personality?

(Twilight should have a TARDIS!)

 

Funnily enough, when David Tenant left the show to be replaced by Matt Smith I genuinely didn't care one bit. But at the same time, I could completely understand that some people didn't like it. Just because someone dislikes one particular change in one particular show doesn't make someone a simpleton who can't handle change. Everything is case-by-case, and different people have different ideals. Hell, Red Dwarf is one of my favourite shows of all time and that saw some enormous changes, especially concerning Cat's personality and Kryten's integration into the main cast. Then there's Blackadder, (incredible show) that had the entire time period change with each new season. And I loved that aspect of it.

 

I guess my message is, I'm tired of being mislabelled as someone who clings to status quo just because I'm willing to criticise and show apprehension towards something that (in my eyes) is flawed. When Matt Smith took over I didn't go around berating everyone who hated the change. And yet, that's what I hear from virtually every Pro-Twilicorn supporter that I speak to. And it does my head in.

 

It reminds me of the shift in opinion of Resident Evil fans. When Resi 4 came out it was a huge hit, but some people hated that the series had taken a more action-oriented route. These people were often made fun of as being adverse to change because Resi 4 was such a well-loved game. Cut to Resi 6, and suddenly everyone (well, almost) complained that the series has gotten too action-oriented. But this time, because that opinion happened to be a majority opinion, it's accepted, whereas before it was made fun of simply because (and this is key) only a minority had that opinion.

Edited September 30, 2013 by Ficta_Scriptor

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

You're lumping everyone who has issues with Twilicorn into one big group. I completely agree with you that some people were overreacting and spouting crap. I've spoken to a few Twilicorn haters on this site who I thought were utter morons. But what you're doing is taking one look at anyone who dislikes Twilicorn and instantly assuming them to be the same as those egotistical, arrogant, closed-minded people from your darkest memories. If you want to reference people like that, fine.Hell, I'll gladly make fun of them with you. But when you attribute that sort of behavior to anyone who criticises the show, then like I said before, you're making misguided assumptions.

 

 

Thank you ignoring the last line of my post where I said I specifically referring the people over-reacting(as I said from square one the people bitching)(and the reactions in this thread arn't doing the sane one's any favors.), and the fact that to this day everyone I've seen bringing it up that vocally is arrogant and egotistical as all hell about it is pretty damning.

 

I'm not working on assumptions, I'm working on hard observations.  

[Radost 76]

I think this is good, a step forward for the brony community. I have seen so many wars over twilicorn this has to relieve some tension, give it some time and people will slow down on the hateful posts.