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In another thread i tried to make an argument that pinkie real focus seems to be on friends, even more than parties.

you might even argue that's her real special talent,

and than i tried to think of a way to argue against it?

What if parties were soooooooooo important to her they trumped friend ship?  Pff you'd only get that in some weird grim dark setting.... or

in party of one.  Hum.

 

Was that the problem?  that pinkie can't differentiate between friends and the party itself?
I mean I just kinda noticed a flaw in party of one,

it might had a deeper impact if her friends had been blowing her off for a week,

but it's not really notable because pinkie's over reaction is pretty much what we've all come to expect.

 

But seriously pinkie shouldn't have broken from reality from just one day.  can you imagine the dark place she would gone after one week?  quick set of scenes of the ponies slamming doors "No, no, no, no,NO"

monday, tueday, wednesday,

pinkie's peppie hair slowly sinking.. eyes welling up, spirit dying, with each day passing.

 

Hell it would be like someone kicking a puppy.

 

Maybe behind the scenes you'd have the other five giggling about it, making light of pinkies over reactions.  you could had a real lesson there vs
"Pinkies a spaz and we have to handle her with kid gloves."


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I would say friends, as she seems to have a thing for befriending as many ponies as possible. Now that's not to say that she doesn't love her parties, but I still do think that friends are more important to her. 


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Pinkie has to think that friends are more important because, when she has a party she would want her friends to be there and have a wonderful time with her. Without friends, parties are basically not the same to her.

 

I might agree with that,

but at the same time i could see pinkie having to learn the lesson, put in the hard choice of throwing the party of a life time,

you know her friends.  maybe even not being able to see the Forrest for the trees.  pinkie is kinda wacky in the head.

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Partying isn't an element of harmony but her social optimism can obviously be set as one.

Pinkie's her name and happiness is her game. Partying (from my POV) seems more like a hobby to her.

Friends are obviously what makes Pinkie so happy, so happy that gives her the energy to be...well...herself.

Without friends I don't think anyone can be so happy and upbeat all the time to even get up for a party. 


I'm gonna go with friends. Yeah Pinkie's special talent is throwing parties but she sort of needs friends in order to throw parties for them. Plus she has shown deep compassion for her friends more than partying.

Partying is something anyone can do.

Her special talent is flat-out spreading cheer and happiness anywhere she goes.

She's sort of like this equine fellow~

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James Baxter, a light brown horse from the world of adventure time.

Pretty much the only thing he does is make everyone happy, simply with a silly ball, and his silly voice.

That is pretty damn hard to do, and shines as a talent. Like a comedian or a Jester. smile.png

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In another thread i tried to make an argument that pinkie real focus seems to be on friends, even more than parties.

 

you might even argue that's her real special talent,

and than i tried to think of a way to argue against it?

 

What if parties were soooooooooo important to her they trumped friend ship?  Pff you'd only get that in some weird grim dark setting.... or

in party of one.  Hum.

 

Was that the problem?  that pinkie can't differentiate between friends and the party itself?

I mean I just kinda noticed a flaw in party of one,

it might had a deeper impact if her friends had been blowing her off for a week,

but it's not really notable because pinkie's over reaction is pretty much what we've all come to expect.

 

But seriously pinkie shouldn't have broken from reality from just one day.  can you imagine the dark place she would gone after one week?  quick set of scenes of the ponies slamming doors "No, no, no, no,NO"

monday, tueday, wednesday,

pinkie's peppie hair slowly sinking.. eyes welling up, spirit dying, with each day passing.

 

Hell it would be like someone kicking a puppy.

 

Maybe behind the scenes you'd have the other five giggling about it, making light of pinkies over reactions.  you could had a real lesson there vs

"Pinkies a spaz and we have to handle her with kid gloves."

Actually it's really not too far off. While she may love her closest friends, and indeed everybody, she has also been shown to be EXTREMELY insecure at the same time. Take Wonderbolts Academy. She spent half the episode insistently checking a mailbox every few seconds for a letter from Rainbow Dash, becoming convinced that after only a day of no letter that Rainbow Dash had forgotten all of them already.

 

You kinda need look no further than Too Many Pinkie Pies to see how important her true friends are with the whole watching paint dry competition. Having to do something extremely boring, sit absolutely still and not letting a single thing distract her, all breaks from her usual character.

 

If you think about it, the way Pinkie's mind works makes it all make sense, though. When she first saw the Sonic Rainboom she felt intense joy for the first time in her life, and so she tried to share it with her family. When at first they seemed to not like it she felt some of that happiness leaking away until they showed they did like it. Now that she was successful at that she earned her cutie mark, and made it her life's work to do the same for everyone she meets, to try to bring as much joy and laughter and smiles to every single pony and brighten their lives, just like the SR did for her.  The big issue with that though, as has been demonstrated in several episodes, is that she can be emotionally immature and relentless in her pursuits, showing that she's sure she knows whats best for others and trying to force it on them without respecting their boundaries. Case in point, Cranky.  He rebuffed her attempts to befriend him, something that's hardly happened for her. In Pinkie's mind, she HAD HAD HAD to be his friend, because he was an unhappy donkey, and she COULD DEFINITELY cheer him up, because that's what she was best at. And if she wasn't his friend than it meant she was failing in what she perceived as her calling, of bringing joy and happiness to others.

 

You could also look at is it that Pinkie has a psychological need to be friends with everyone, because to her she has no enemies so everyone should be glad to be her friend. However, if someone doesn't like her, even one single pony, donkey, etc, then it probably brings her mentally back to her original unhappy joyless, friendless days at the rock farm, and she feels she MUST rescue them from themselves with her talent, again forcing her beliefs onto others because she thinks she knows what's best and doesn't want to go back to those sad times.

 

And in regards to the actual question being asked in the topic, parties are a great place to bring people happiness. I don't know how popular this fanon idea I read once, but someone said that they thought that Sonic Rainboom messed with Pinkie's head, considering she's the only one actually shown to have an appearance change from it. Hey, maybe it's where she got her fourth wall breaking powers.Okay, getting back on topic. wink.png    So it's not too surprising that she had a mental breakdown and overreacted in such a fashion, because a party without any guests is a very lonely experience that, again, probably brought her mind back to the rock farm, and she couldn't handle that. Her friends all lying and making excuses to avoid her, her very best friends out of all of them would of course have a powerful impact on her, and despite the lesson she learned in the episode Party of One, Pinkie herself says in another episode about losing a friends trust is the fastest way to lose a friend. And maybe that's where her insecurity came from. She's lost trust slightly in her friends. Even if she eventually found out they were lying to her for her own benefit so they could throw her a surprise party, they still lied to her. And if they did it once, why not again? However, at the same time, the thought of losing her closest friends is unbearable to her. So at the first sign of trouble, of her friends possibly not liking her anymore, she begins to panic because she doesn't want to lose them, and has to do all she can to hold on to them. Thus. she sits at a mailbox for a whole day, wanting to write back to Rainbow Dash the second she gets her letter so she isn't forgotten by her friend.

 

Heh.smile.png  If you couldn't tell already from my username, I'm sure you know now that Pinkie is my favorite and I'm pretty big on analyzing her where I can. Sorry for the speech. Got a little carried away.happy.png  But I hope that it satisfies you and gives you the answer you were seeking.

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Pinkie's talent is bringing happiness, an act exemplified by parties. But a good party requires good friends. So...Both are equally important aspects of her primary talent.

 

Though you could argue parties get higher priority, as she throws parties even when her friends are sick of them and don't show up...Of course, then she just invents imaginary friends. I feel Pinkie is desperate for validation from other people (which she didn't seem to get on the rock farm), and the parties and all are just a means to that end.

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Pinkie most likely values friendship over parties. When she thought her friends were avoiding her she went into a full-on mental breakdown as well. She does love parties but she likes having her friends there with her to have fun.


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I think she'd definitely prefer friendship to parties. I mean, what's a party without any friends there? It's a talk session with a bucket of turnips, that's what it is. Not too fun.


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As demonstrated in 'Party of One', Pinkie Pie becomes grim when she feels her friends are trying to avoid having to socialize with her, and isn't as lively afterwards. Although she does host a party with inanimate objects, she uses the inanimate objects to simbolize friends, therefore, she puts friends first, to be ablt to have an enjoyable party with them.


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