Bronies as a religion and my spiritual experiences

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

I'd have to agree with most of the posters here. Raising fictional characters to that high of a level is indeed taking it too far. 

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

@,

 

 

If what I do in service to a fictional cartoon character is no less that what others do in service to traditional gods, and the world rises up and says, "That's really weird, man," are they not confusing form with essence?

 

If it is called madness, is it not for superficial reasons?

 

I'm asked to explain, how Celestia could possibly be real to me.

 

I explain to them magic and egregores.

 

Then they say, "Magic is bullshit."

 

But they're wrong, and I smile on the inside. Because I know.

 

Bullshit is magic.

[QuickTime 20]

She works in mysterious ways.

 

 

 

When something becomes greater than the sum of its parts, there is a word for that.

 

Transcendence.

i wont argue your belief all im saying is your logic and theory behind it being anything but an obsession of a physical thing is flawed. religion isnt, at least wasnt, something you could just grab a (this is an example) coke and go i like this lets worship it!....i mean keep doing what you want but if you want someone to take you seriously have a better theory behind your idea. because "i made a religion because of ponies" wont really get you anywhere with anyone that has any sense. again this is an opnion and by no means actuality. im just giving you a heads up if you want to make this real you have to connect it to people and not yourself. aaaaaand i feel like a jerk just do what you feel is right. which is what youve been doing i know.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

i wont argue your belief all im saying is your logic and theory behind it being anything but an obsession of a physical thing is flawed. religion isnt, at least wasnt, something you could just grab a (this is an example) coke and go i like this lets worship it!....i mean keep doing what you want but if you want someone to take you seriously have a better theory behind your idea. because "i made a religion because of ponies" wont really get you anywhere with anyone that has any sense. again this is an opnion and by no means actuality. im just giving you a heads up if you want to make this real you have to connect it to people and not yourself. aaaaaand i feel like a jerk just do what you feel is right. which is what youve been doing i know.

 

Higher people hear of the way

They diligently practice it

Average people hear of the way

They sometimes keep it and sometimes lose it

Lower people hear of the way

They laugh loudly at it

If they do not laugh, it would not be the way.

 

Dao De Jing - 49

 

Whether called Religion or Spirituality, if you think my goal this entire time was to be taken seriously, you clearly have misunderstood me.

 

If you think my goal is to achieve something similar to Pastafarianism, you have misunderstood me.

 

If you think my goal is to achieve what Jediism has achieved, you have misunderstood me.

 

If you think my goal is just to troll, you have misunderstood me.

 

If you think I have a clear goal in mind, you have misunderstood me.

 

If you think that I have no goal whatsoever, you have misunderstood me.

 

The message I have, cannot be explained. To explain it is to destroy it. It can only be played out.

 

When you have understood the concept of meta-belief, the function of belief, and the art of bullshit, then you have understood me.

[QuickTime 20]

Higher people hear of the way

They diligently practice it

Average people hear of the way

They sometimes keep it and sometimes lose it

Lower people hear of the way

They laugh loudly at it

If they do not laugh, it would not be the way.

 

Dao De Jing - 49

 

Whether called Religion or Spirituality, if you think my goal this entire time was to be taken seriously, you clearly have misunderstood me.

 

If you think my goal is to achieve something similar to Pastafarianism, you have misunderstood me.

 

If you think my goal is to achieve what Jediism has achieved, you have misunderstood me.

 

If you think my goal is just to troll, you have misunderstood me.

 

If you think I have a clear goal in mind, you have misunderstood me.

 

If you think that I have no goal whatsoever, you have misunderstood me.

 

The message I have, cannot be explained. To explain it is to destroy it. It can only be played out.

 

When you have understood the concept of meta-belief, the function of belief, and the art of bullshit, then you have understood me.

if you cannot explain your goal then you dont have one in the eyes of your peers. without concrete direction you will go no where and achieve nothng. and judging people on rather or not they listen to you is quite......ignorant if i say so. you dont judge if someone is higher or lower than you or anyone else. we are all on a level field, if you think otherwise you have a complex. i havent misunderstood anything because youve said nothing but talked in a circle and gave no reasoning. this isnt really a discussion anymore this is just me talking and you saying nothing like it was a rebuttal. all in all. you made something because you could, because you wanted to, nothing called on you to do it. except maybe if you have a little voice in your head, in that case you have worse problems than a complex on your hands. why would you even want to make a religion out of something that was great as it was, it just demeans the value of what we have here on this site and with our fellows because you thought its better to make it something its not. if you actually want to discuss your views and not tell me what i am and what i know, you can chat me up anytime.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

if you cannot explain your goal then you dont have one in the eyes of your peers. without concrete direction you will go no where and achieve nothng. and judging people on rather or not they listen to you is quite......ignorant if i say so. you dont judge if someone is higher or lower than you or anyone else. we are all on a level field, if you think otherwise you have a complex. i havent misunderstood anything because youve said nothing but talked in a circle and gave no reasoning. this isnt really a discussion anymore this is just me talking and you saying nothing like it was a rebuttal. all in all. you made something because you could, because you wanted to, nothing called on you to do it. except maybe if you have a little voice in your head, in that case you have worse problems than a complex on your hands. why would you even want to make a religion out of something that was great as it was, it just demeans the value of what we have here on this site and with our fellows because you thought its better to make it something its not. if you actually want to discuss your views and not tell me what i am and what i know, you can chat me up anytime.

 

Mission Status: Successful.

[Bastion 414]

Don't worry, write a really long book about a few experiences, and you'll get a horde of people wanting to believe.

Just make a copy of every single one of Twilights letters to Celestia in one giant collection. then put it in every hotel room in the world.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

 

 

if you cannot explain your goal then you dont have one in the eyes of your peers.

 

Eyes are overrated.

 

 

 

without concrete direction you will go no where

 

No matter where you go, you are always located in the center of the universe.

 

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html

 

 

 

and achieve nothng.

 

The smallest change in a system leads to gigantic changes over time. Chaos Theory.

 

Achieving nothing is sometimes the most productive thing to do.

 

In a universe that is inherently without meaning, the greatest achievement one can make is creating that meaning for one's self.

 

 

 

and judging people on rather or not they listen to you is quite......ignorant if i say so.

 

Why so serious?

 

 

 

you dont judge if someone is higher or lower than you or anyone else. we are all on a level field, if you think otherwise you have a complex.

 

*giggles*

 

 

 

i havent misunderstood anything because youve said nothing but talked in a circle and gave no reasoning.

 

*facepalms*

 

 

 

this isnt really a discussion anymore this is just me talking and you saying nothing like it was a rebuttal.

 

 

 

 

all in all. you made something because you could, because you wanted to, nothing called on you to do it.

 

Beautiful, isn't it?

 

 

 

except maybe if you have a little voice in your head, in that case you have worse problems than a complex on your hands

 

The voice in my head has feelings, you know?

 

 

 

why would you even want to make a religion out of something that was great as it was, it just demeans the value of what we have here on this site and with our fellows because you thought its better to make it something its not.

 

Here I thought the only value of this site, was that it offered a place for freedom of expression.

 

Its not that I thought it was better to make it something that it's not. It's not that I thought it was worse to make it something that it's not.

 

It just pleased me to do so. And because this site allowed me to freely express myself in this way, this simply re-affirms the value of this site.

 

It demeans nothing, silly goose.

[XxConfusedUnicornxX 834]

Ew.... No.. That's like fanboying/girling to a whole different level.

[C.C. 66]

God is a fictional character from a book, mlp ponies are fictional characters from a show.  you can't say you can't prove one is fake but not the other.

Just no. Also I don't think we should talk about this on here....

Then what explains that kid who said ''Pegasus with rainbow hair'' On the radio then? And the static before the royal wedding? It means that the actual equestrian royal wedding happened one day earlier than earth's because that was how it was planned. And she was saying ''HELP US THERE ARE CHANGELINGS''. In some sort of morse code.

 

Probably some little brony. (Yay the fandom is rising)

And the static? I have heard so much static on my radio. ITS NORMAL. Static is not a 'morse code', it's poor connection.

Edited May 25, 2014 by ~Nami the PegaCat~

[QuickTime 20]

Eyes are overrated.

 

 

 

 

No matter where you go, you are always located in the center of the universe.

 

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html

 

 

 

 

The smallest change in a system leads to gigantic changes over time. Chaos Theory.

 

Achieving nothing is sometimes the most productive thing to do.

 

In a universe that is inherently without meaning, the greatest achievement one can make is creating that meaning for one's self.

 

 

 

 

Why so serious?

 

 

 

 

*giggles*

 

 

 

 

*facepalms*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beautiful, isn't it?

 

 

 

 

The voice in my head has feelings, you know?

 

 

 

 

Here I thought the only value of this site, was that it offered a place for freedom of expression.

 

Its not that I thought it was better to make it something that it's not. It's not that I thought it was worse to make it something that it's not.

 

It just pleased me to do so. And because this site allowed me to freely express myself in this way, this simply re-affirms the value of this site.

 

It demeans nothing, silly goose.

so my freedom gets put to the side because of your freedom?  one word: hypocritical. if you really wanted freedom of expression this converstaion would have went in a totally different direction, namely one in which we would have tried to understand each other. rather then me stating my opinion you going on to dictate the meaning of my opion, me stating what you did, again you dictating what i meant. and after all that all you can do in the end is act like i want to infringe upon your freedom, when all i was doing was expressing my own. my entire conversation with you was to determine if you actually believed in what you said you did, and apparently you do not. you did not love, you did not tolerate. and i know the comback to this statement as all the others will be you trying to state i am wrong because "reasons", believe what you want but dont tell me im wrong because i stated my opinion. and using cutesy words doesnt take away from the malice in your posts.

 

Just no. Also I don't think we should talk about this on here....

 

Probably some little brony. (Yay the fandom is rising)

And the static? I have heard so much static on my radio. ITS NORMAL. Static is not a 'morse code', it's poor connection.

you are correct, talking about these things or posting about them causes nothing good as you can see from my....."friendly conversation" with the op. thank you for saying what i should have said in the begining rather than trying to converse.

[Nulln 755]

Just no. 

Sorry, but it is the truth.

[C.C. 66]

Sorry, but it is the truth.

 

It is not the truth, and as I stated before we should not be talking about this so I hope SOMEONE LOCKS THIS SOON!

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

 

 

so my freedom gets put to the side because of your freedom? one word: hypocritical.

 

What on earth are you talking about? Your freedom has remained unmolested. For example, you have been free this whole time to express your thoughts and opinions, which you have, and I have been free this whole time to talk circles around you, bullshit you, and have great fun at your expense.

 

 

 

if you really wanted freedom of expression this converstaion would have went in a totally different direction, namely one in which we would have tried to understand each other.

 

But what if I want to express myself in a way that isn't meant to be understood? It seems that in you trying to demand me to make sense, you are actually attempting to limit my freedoms.

 

 

 

rather then me stating my opinion you going on to dictate the meaning of my opion, me stating what you did, again you dictating what i meant.

 

You give me far too much credit. I have no power like that. You opinion has always meant what you mean it to mean. How I choose to interpret it, is all within my own power. How I choose to respond, in my own power.

 

In what way have I dictated the meaning of your opinion? You truly suggesting that I have mind control powers?

 

 

 

and after all that all you can do in the end is act like i want to infringe upon your freedom, when all i was doing was expressing my own.

 

You have succeeded in expressing your opinion. I have succeeded in expressing mine, as nonsensical, hypocritical, and self contradicting as it is.

 

I see no loss or gain here. What are you complaining about?

 

 

 

my entire conversation with you was to determine if you actually believed in what you said you did, and apparently you do not. you did not love, you did not tolerate. and i know the comback to this statement as all the others will be you trying to state i am wrong because "reasons",

 

If you truly want to determine whether or not that I believe in what I say I do, go to my religious services thread and deduce how serious I really am.

 

I love the way you have continued in conversation with me. I tolerate your silly accusations of me not loving and tolerating you.

 

I adore and cherish you.

 

believe what you want but dont tell me im wrong because i stated my opinion. and using cutesy words doesnt take away from the malice in your posts.

 

Malicious?

 

Not at all!

 

And I've never really outright told you that you were wrong.

 

You build these straw man fallacies around me, and I'm hurt.

 

Truly hurt.

[C.C. 66]

Well, ponies do exist, at least...

 

A flying cartoon horse is not any less likely than an invisible bearded man with an obsession for the doings of small little ape villagers floating around on a speck of blue dust. 

 

Minus the beard and the invisible, and you have a Minecraft villager.

[QuickTime 20]

What on earth are you talking about? Your freedom has remained unmolested. For example, you have been free this whole time to express your thoughts and opinions, which you have, and I have been free this whole time to talk circles around you, bullshit you, and have great fun at your expense.

 

 

 

 

But what if I want to express myself in a way that isn't meant to be understood? It seems that in you trying to demand me to make sense, you are actually attempting to limit my freedoms.

 

 

 

 

You give me far too much credit. I have no power like that. You opinion has always meant what you mean it to mean. How I choose to interpret it, is all within my own power. How I choose to respond, in my own power.

 

In what way have I dictated the meaning of your opinion? You truly suggesting that I have mind control powers?

 

 

 

 

You have succeeded in expressing your opinion. I have succeeded in expressing mine, as nonsensical, hypocritical, and self contradicting as it is.

 

I see no loss or gain here. What are you complaining about?

 

 

 

 

If you truly want to determine whether or not that I believe in what I say I do, go to my religious services thread and deduce how serious I really am.

 

I love the way you have continued in conversation with me. I tolerate your silly accusations of me not loving and tolerating you.

 

I adore and cherish you.

 

 

Malicious?

 

Not at all!

 

And I've never really outright told you that you were wrong.

 

You build these straw man fallacies around me, and I'm hurt.

 

Truly hurt.

so if you want to express yourself in a way that cant be understood then you have no argument and above all even if you had fun it was at no expense of mine. i enjoy seeing people who have no rhyme or reason skip their way around logic and make no points. and if youre hurt it was your own doing, cause and effect, you began this trip down the rabbit hole and now you have to deal with what to do so you dont die when you hit the bottom. insinuation is a word for a reason, that being someone can say many things without saying them. anyway i did what i wanted to when i joined this post and ill leave it to burn, have a good evening and heres hoping you learn to do something better with your time.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

so if you want to express yourself in a way that cant be understood then you have no argument and above all even if you had fun it was at no expense of mine. i enjoy seeing people who have no rhyme or reason skip their way around logic and make no points. and if youre hurt it was your own doing, cause and effect, you began this trip down the rabbit hole and now you have to deal with what to do so you dont die when you hit the bottom. insinuation is a word for a reason, that being someone can say many things without saying them. anyway i did what i wanted to when i joined this post and ill leave it to burn, have a good evening and heres hoping you learn to do something better with your time.

 

Sounds like a win win to me. Celestia bless you in all your endeavors.

[QuickTime 20]

Sounds like a win win to me. Celestia bless you in all your endeavors.

exactly, so now that thats over =3 can i just say i love you? and give you a hug? because thats how i end all my discussions/ arguments. i hug the bajeesus out of the other person.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

exactly, so now that thats over =3 can i just say i love you? and give you a hug? because thats how i end all my discussions/ arguments. i hug the bajeesus out of the other person.

 

 

*hugs* <3<3<3

 

And that's the way the game is played right.

Edited May 26, 2014 by Minister KelGrym

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

It is not the truth, and as I stated before we should not be talking about this so I hope SOMEONE LOCKS THIS SOON!

I kinda hope this too. I just know that people will keep trying to prove something and flame wars will begin. 

[Nulln 755]

It is not the truth, and as I stated before we should not be talking about this so I hope SOMEONE LOCKS THIS SOON!

How is it not the truth?  One belief of a certain entity that someone else claims to exist is not any more truthful than another.

[C.C. 66]

How is it not the truth?  One belief of a certain entity that someone else claims to exist is not any more truthful than another.

 

Man, I don't even give a buck anymore. Why are we even arguing over this?

Edited May 26, 2014 by ~Nami the PegaCat~

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

Man, I don't even give a buck anymore. why are we even arguing over this?

 

Boredom, is the most likely candidate.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

@@Steel Accord,

But look at him, Steel! Isn't he just precious?

Ponify him all you want, I still despise what he and his creator stand for.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

Ponify him all you want, I still despise what he and his creator stand for.

 

Fair enough. I just like the horror genre.