Limits of Fan Fiction

[BionicBrony 385]

Recently a friend who was a pegasister asked me an interesting question. They had finished reading over Rainbow Factory, when they turned to me and they looked at me like I was a monster. They were horrified at it and then they asked me an important question:

 

What do you think is the limit of Fan Fiction?

 

For example, Clop-Fiction and Murderous fics (such as Cupcakes), tend to flood the internet and become more popular then normal and veyr sweet romance tales. More people gets more views on a romance if they add clop to it, or they can become more popular if they add in blood and gore.

 

So the question arises: is there a limit to if fan fiction can be used and what is that limit?

 

Also, I'd like to know yall's opinion on things like clop-fiction and Violence. Does that belong in a fandom of pony lovers?

 

[Dovashy 1,734]

My hardcore Rainbow Dash friend keeps insisting for me not to read Muffins, Cupcakes, and the Rainbow Factory, as well as Clopfics. (I don't know any specific ones) So I haven't read any of these types of fan fictions. 

 

In my opinion gory and violence is alright, not for everyone but I mean it keeps it interesting. Clopfics I would find disturbing, and would really not like to read one. I suppose I could (Not saying I would, or if I'd enjoy it, which I wouldn't. ) if it was an OC, but if it was the Mane 6. Definitely not. 

Edited June 18, 2014 by Dovashy

[Mae Borowski 356]

Recently a friend who was a pegasister asked me an interesting question. They had finished reading over Rainbow Factory, when they turned to me and they looked at me like I was a monster. They were horrified at it and then they asked me an important question:

 

What do you think is the limit of Fan Fiction?

 

For example, Clop-Fiction and Murderous fics (such as Cupcakes), tend to flood the internet and become more popular then normal and veyr sweet romance tales. More people gets more views on a romance if they add clop to it, or they can become more popular if they add in blood and gore.

 

So the question arises: is there a limit to if fan fiction can be used and what is that limit?

 

Also, I'd like to know yall's opinion on things like clop-fiction and Violence. Does that belong in a fandom of pony lovers?

 

not even gonna touch clop-fics...i dont mind anything along the lines of Rainbow Factory, Pegasus Device, or cupcakes...to me it just show that the author is detailed, and knows how to hook me into a good story (although i am a huge Stephen King reader....so i guess i cant say much)

[yeet 2,027]

There is no limit to anything when you think about it, just the laws and guidelines set that make us believe there is. Fanfics tend to not have any limits what so ever, even mlp ones, not everyone will like clop fics, but some people do, and they are quite funny in my opinion. As for things like cupcakes and rainbow factory, well violence in fics is quite fun.

 

When you say "was a pegasister" do you mean she isn't anymore?

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

I think trying to censor or limit an artists work (when it does not physically harm anyone, so inb4 someone says art work made of murdered people is ok with the same logic) is wrong. Sure, their work may be something that you do not personally enjoy, but I'd like to give them the chance to keep their artistic integrity. If they want to write clopfics or the pony murder 2:electric boogaloo then that is fine, so long as they are posting it in the correct channels and keeping it away from minors as best they can (because there is no way to keep internet information from minors that lie about their age). It may not coincide with the image of the pony fan, but it is something that exists, has an audience, and really will never go away. Best to just let the artist do what they wanna do, and just do your best to avoid it when you can, and call out those who force it in areas deemed safe for minors.

[Zygen 6,066]

Well, I don't think that realistically there are much of any limits on fanfics, it's just a matter of if the fanfic is classified as mature or whatever rating for having whatever content.

 

I don't really mind the existence of violent gorey fanfictions, or even clopfictions really, as long as they stay out of my way and I'm not like forced to be exposed to them.

 

I personally don't like clopfics, or fanfics with sexual content to that level really at all. Of course I suppose if it is a good fic that just happens to contain some edgy sexual stuff I might let it slide, depending. However if it's an outright clopfic, i'm not really interested in reading it, it's just not my thing.

And no, it's not because I am just super closed minded or whatever you want to say, I just don't like clopfics, and I prefer that clopping stays where they belong as I don't personally like them. I have read some of a clopfic before, and some of some more edgy sexual stuff in fics, and honestly both times it doesn't really seem like much of an addition to the story, just kind of... well you know...

 

As for violence, I don't mind violence, however some of the more violent fics that are like grimdark like Cupcakes and Rainbow factory and stuff like that doesn't really peak my interest, plus some of it is freaky as hell, so I'd rather not read it, especially since I'll admit that I'm a bit of a scardy cat, so I don't like scary stuff really. 

 

But as long as those types of things which I don't like that may exist in fanfictions and within the fandom stay in their own place and I am not forced to read or be exposed to these things, then I am ok with them existing. It doesn't really affect me in the end.

 

I mean fics that are gorey can be well written and enjoyable to, same with fics that contain sexual content (Although I find it less common personally.) so it's not like it never has it's place really.

 

And in the end, regardless of what my opinion is personally, or anyones opinion is on the matter, the whole internet isn't going to bow to my command and do what I ask necessarily. I can simply voice what I believe should be the case in my opinion, and since things are pretty fine for me that's all I really am going to do. 

 

All my opinion of course again.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

I've actually authored one naughty MLP fanfic, so...  Lol.  Though I did it more or less because: 1. I just felt like it, and 2. I wanted to see if I could.  Having to flag the hay out of it probably strangled the pageviews to death. xD  But I have no interest whatsoever in violent / gory fanfics (neither in penning them nor reading them).  I can't actually place limits on what people include in their own fanfics, and I'm usually not the type to say, "Well, I don't like it; therefore it must not exist!!1!"  If I don't like it, I stay well away (to the best of my ability).

 

And the naughty stuff "belongs" in practically every fandom lol.  Even if I hadn't written the aforementioned piece of "literature," I'd still favor naughty over violent and gory any day.  My reaction to the former is either "I like it" or "this is not for me."  My reaction to the latter is, "...Why??"

[BionicBrony 385]

I've actually authored one naughty MLP fanfic, so...  Lol.  Though I did it more or less because: 1. I just felt like it, and 2. I wanted to see if I could.  Having to flag the hay out of it probably strangled the pageviews to death. xD  But I have no interest whatsoever in violent / gory fanfics (neither in penning them nor reading them).  I can't actually place limits on what people include in their own fanfics, and I'm usually not the type to say, "Well, I don't like it; therefore it must not exist!!1!"  If I don't like it, I stay well away (to the best of my ability).

 

And the naughty stuff "belongs" in practically every fandom lol.  Even if I hadn't written the aforementioned piece of "literature," I'd still favor naughty over violent and gory any day.  My reaction to the former is either "I like it" or "this is not for me."  My reaction to the latter is, "...Why??"

'Naughty' as in a clop-fictoin?

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

'Naughty' as in a clop-fictoin?

It contained very explicit content, so I guess that would be a "yes" lol.  I just thought of it as erotica, though.  Didn't take a big "clop-fic" stamp and mark the piece with it. xD  It's one of only two really naughty pieces I've written in my entire life.

[BionicBrony 385]

@PegaMister

Oh, well I just don't know if clop is going too far. Like, is writing a clop reading in too far?

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

I give the same limitations on fan fics as I do imagination.... Simply, there are none.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

@PegaMister

Oh, well I just don't know if clop is going too far. Like, is writing a clop reading in too far?

Well, it's too late for me if I've gone too far lol.  I can't un-write the piece. xD  I tried to keep the ponies mostly in character, and I thought it could be seen as "passionate."  I think I need not feel regret unless I'd done a really hurried, sloppy job of writing it, and I considered the thoughts and / or dialogue of the respective ponies and put time and effort into it.  I was actually encouraged, somewhat, to write another; just haven't decided on a scenario I 100% liked.

Edited June 18, 2014 by PegaMister

[Malinter 3,064]

the limits of fanfictions are those of the writer

 

I think most stories are better with a bit of love and violence thrown in if the love is genuine and the violence has a believable reason to occur.

 

Ofc, the more extreme fics where people are killing left right and centre or disrublingly questionable things happen I avoid much as i would any film of a similiar nature.

[Freewave 1,145]

Think of it this way. We are human and we do have human content that goes into sex (clop) and horror (grimdark)  and they are intended for adults.  When musicians, writers, and artists adaprt MLP for those same themes for other adults its really the same thing. It's silly to judge fiction as reality and its not fair to say that we should limit creativity or censor it either. As long as you are at least minimally keeping it away from minors and tagging it correct;y then people should be allowed to make or check out what content is available. 

Edited June 19, 2014 by Freewave

[Argumedies 1,748]

well you cannot tell them what not to write/draw/create, you only have the power over what you read/watch/create

[speedyblupi 76]

There's really no limit to how screwed up MLP fanfics can get. For the maximum of both violence and sex (and just being completely disgusting) it would probably be "120 days of blueblood" - I have read very little (just to see how screwed up it would get), and what I have read can basically be summed up as "paedophilia, coprophilia, torture and blood fetish all at the same time".

 

But many stories which include clop actually have good storylines (e.g. "After that fateful night), and the sex is often possible to just skip over without missing any of the story.

[Snuggie Lord 170]

Fan Fiction has no limit.

[Shanks 10,816]

The bottom line is fans will do what they will do so establishing a kind of "limit" on fanworks is an exercise in futility. Personal limits as in what is to my or others personal taste is a different matter. I am very uncomfortable with the subject of rape for example and because of that I have decided to avoid clop that has that in it. Despite my misgivings about it I am not shaming people who enjoy that or campaigning to get rid of it and actually have a close friend of mine who is into that. We are all fans and have to try to respect one another, people who are into things like clop and gore like myself must respect people who don't want to see that stuff and most of us do and people who don't like that stuff have to respect people who are into that even if they may not personally like or approve of it. 

[Concerto Dusk 240]

The limits don't exist. And they shouldn't. The very idea of fiction us that it isn't real. So what if someone wrote a murder fic. I laughed at rainbow factory. Then again never claimed to be sane either. I know plenty of cloppers in real life, and indent have a problem with it. Which cares? It is fanfiction, the fans decide how dark it gets and honestly, rainbow factory wasn't that bad. I have seen far worse, enough to scar me. I still didn't judge it because the only limit is the writers imagination. If you don't like it, don't read it. That simple.

[Vox 870]

Ehh, not a fan of gorefics   especially if their meant to be intentionally vulgar. I have to admit, i've read 1 or two clopfics out of curiosity, and, i have to say, quite well done for what they are, even if the idea of mixing sexual content and ponies isn't exactly my cup of tea. I don't mind violence in fics, as long as it isn't senseless or meant to provoke, as long as it contains some sort of significance to a good plot line, i can tolerate it.

Edited October 31, 2014 by VoxPolice

[Panne 1,342]

My view on fanfiction:

The internet has little to no laws, so if someone wants to write a murder foal con clop fic and you don't want them to, well too damn bad.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

There are no limits on fanfiction or fiction, nor should there ever be any.

 

If you want to impose a limit then you want to impose censorship.

 

If you want to impose censorship, then how precise will you draw the line and how the hell are you gonna make a judgment call when content gets gray and 'fuzzy?'

 

First amendment rights come first.

 

Somethings aren't very tasteful, this is true, but may every hand that tries to prevent it from being published suffer from eternal sunburn.

[Dashie23 103]

I like gory movies and such, but some of the gorefics are a bit much, namely Cupcakes and Sweet Apple Massacre. Both were pretty unsettling. I read creepypastas all the time, but Cupcakes is just too much.

 

As for clop, I don't really care for it. Rule 34 is the weirdest thing ever, and clop kind of is really weird. Then again, I have my fair share of  weird "material"  and to each his/ her own.

[[NULL] 906]

No, there shouldn't be a limit. Whatever my opinion is on a fan fiction is irrelevant. Nobody should dictate what is and isn't okay to write.

[Thrashy 2,800]

Hey, artistic freedom is the key factor here. If people need to express something in terms of erotica, bloodbaths and torture-porn, that's both their right and their business.

 

However, I'd thank such creators to realize that what they do is not for everyone and take the extra ten seconds out of their day to make sure it's properly tagged. It's really not that difficult, and frankly, those who fail to do so deserve every bit of flak they get.