Anti Bronies vs Bronies: Everyone Should See This

[The Dandy 73]

well, yes almost percisely, their group was created to attack another group. Like I said, soon the nazis and jews will be gushing over a hot cup of tea and the kkk will be meeting with al sharpton for games of putt putt. I mean co existing, and ignoring people is possible, but hate groups tolerating what they were bred to hate, nah.

Sorry, but I really do feel the need to chime in here. Don't ever, ever, compare the "battle" between Bronies and anti-Bronies to the KKK and African Americans, or Nazis and Jews. Maybe when 6 million Bronies get killed in concentration camps by anti-Bronies or Bronies are hunted and killed by anti-Bronies that would be a fair call to make. But you are comparing what Bronies have to go through, to what Jews had to go through with the Nazi's. No matter what way you slice it, that is a horrendous and completely ridiculous comparison. Furthermore, you are comparing anti-Bronies to Nazis and the KKK, which is another incredibly unreasonable call to make. And for all intents and purposes, "anti" groups are established because people are against an idea. In my country The Liberal Party was created as an alternative to The Labour Party, and in Parliament you will find members for both of parties literally having cups of tea with one another other. They're are many aspects in life, and simply because two people disagree about one unimportant aspect doesn't mean they can't be friends, and it certainly doesn't mean they can't live together.

[man dude man 555]

Sorry, but I really do feel the need to chime in here. Don't ever, ever, compare the "battle" between Bronies and anti-Bronies to the KKK and African Americans, or Nazis and Jews. Maybe when 6 million Bronies get killed in concentration camps by anti-Bronies or Bronies are hunted and killed by anti-Bronies that would be a fair call to make. But you are comparing what Bronies have to go through, to what Jews had to go through with the Nazi's. No matter what way you slice it, that is a horrendous and completely ridiculous comparison. Furthermore, you are comparing anti-Bronies to Nazis and the KKK, which is another incredibly unreasonable call to make. And for all intents and purposes, "anti" groups are established because people are against an idea. In my country The Liberal Party was created as an alternative to The Labour Party, and in Parliament you will find members for both of parties literally having cups of tea with one another other. They're are many aspects in life, and simply because two people disagree about one unimportant aspect doesn't mean they can't be friends, and it certainly doesn't mean they can't live together.

I'm not going to chime in with my political beliefs, but the holocaust was a good thing, and they were put in work camps for re-education for labor, where they would eventually die or be killed for not agreeing to the terms of their sentence, because Jews are horrid people that enslave the world ideologically with money that doesnt exist, on land that doesnt actually belong to them, but all of this is aside the point. The point is not the actions that took place, but the mentality of the aggressor, you see, this arugment means nothing, bronies you find on brony forums, brony fb groups, and what not, and anti bronies, well, you find them in the same exact places, it takes no genius to see who the antagonist is. It is just up to you if you want to sympathize with some trolls with opposite goals. I dont care that they exist, I think even labeling oyurself "anti-brony" just shows that you are on a whole other level of free time.

[Shanks 10,816]

The Liberal Party was created as an alternative to The Labour Party, and in Parliament you will find members for both of parties literally having cups of tea with one another other.

Yes but that is politics which is a very different animal than fandoms and shows, it is understandable why politics can get heated even if things can sometimes go much further than they should but there is a little thing called priorities and someone who goes out of their way to oppose a fandom or show have some screwed up priorities. At least in some cases you can make a case for a political movement having good intentions but going too far (a category the Nazi's and the KKK obvious don't fit) with haters it is just "I don't like this therefore I am going to hate and troll you for it" which granted also happens in politics but still like I said priorities.

[The Dandy 73]

I'm not going to chime in with my political beliefs, but the holocaust was a good thing, and they were put in work camps for re-education for labor, where they would eventually die or be killed for not agreeing to the terms of their sentence, because Jews are horrid people that enslave the world ideologically with money that doesnt exist, on land that doesnt actually belong to them, but all of this is aside the point. The point is not the actions that took place, but the mentality of the aggressor, you see, this arugment means nothing, bronies you find on brony forums, brony fb groups, and what not, and anti bronies, well, you find them in the same exact places, it takes no genius to see who the antagonist is. It is just up to you if you want to sympathize with some trolls with opposite goals. I dont care that they exist, I think even labeling oyurself "anti-brony" just shows that you are on a whole other level of free time.

....it's not a political belief to not understand what the holocaust was, and how it worked. Perhaps you haven't been taught it in school yet, but that is what the Nazis said it was, they also said that the Ghettos they put Jewish people in before concentration camps was for "the Jewish people's protection". Jewish people were seldom put to labour as opposed to just being flat out killed, and when they did, their work was pointless, the majority of the work they did was crushing stones, and belief it or not, the Nazis didn't need a bunch of rocks. They were also underfed, treated to the cold, shot indiscriminately and had all their possessions taken from them before even before getting to the gas chambers. You may also recall places like Auschwitz, where as soon as they got off, all women, children, elderly people and people already weak from the conditions the Nazis subjected them to we're imedatly killed. This later turned into everyone when the Nazis started losing. And for point of refrence, your senceless bigotry does not allow you ignorance. You want to know why the Jewish have the sterotype of being money crubbing cheap skates? Because back before even the time of Shakesbeere, Banks were being formed, and no one was good enough with maths and taking care of money to run them. Expect for the Jews, everyone was very happy to let the Jews run the banks, until that meant Jews were very rich, thus they came up with the streotype of Jews being money grubbing. Plays like "The Merchant Of Venus" demonstrate this sterotype. And no one tecnailly owns any land, we simply move a top of it and ruin it, then we move on, that's human nature, not Jewish nature. I would see the Bronies as the Antagonist, because at least they are not so foolish as to deny the fact they are the problem. Bronies constantly go looking for fights, while anti bronies stumble upon pictures of ponies and are mad. I never labeled myself anti-brony, it's odd that someone who justifies genocide and the actions of the worst political party in history (in terms of social justice) should be so judgmental of anti bronies and those that aline with them. And for future refrence we are both engaged in the exact same activy right now, so I fail to see your "free time" argument.

Yes but that is politics which is a very different animal than fandoms and shows, it is understandable why politics can get heated even if things can sometimes go much further than they should but there is a little thing called priorities and someone who goes out of their way to oppose a fandom or show have some screwed up priorities. At least in some cases you can make a case for a political movement having good intentions but going too far (a category the Nazi's and the KKK obvious don't fit) with haters it is just "I don't like this therefore I am going to hate and troll you for it" which granted also happens in politics but still like I said priorities.

I used that example, because it was said two opposing forces would not be seen having tea with one another. The following of a fandom requires as much effort as the hatred of one. It is a jump we make a lot, and one that isn't usually right. We are accused of being trolls, which is not true, so then instead of learning from that we go and call anti-bronies trolls simply because they disagree with us.

[Shanks 10,816]

I used that example, because it was said two opposing forces would not be seen having tea with one another. The following of a fandom requires as much effort as the hatred of one. It is a jump we make a lot, and one that isn't usually right. We are accused of being trolls, which is not true, so then instead of learning from that we go and call anti-bronies trolls simply because they disagree with us.

They are trolls not because they can't get over their butthurt that some people other than little girls happen to like ponies. It should be obvious to everyone how immature and stupid it is to be anti brony, bronyism isn't a religion even if some bronies treat it like one and it is not a political movement yet the whole "anti brony" treats it like it is one. "Anti brony" is a non starter because it gives the message "we are against anyone other than little girls watching a harmless cartoon" why is it such a shocker that this is met with hostility? If they drop the "anti brony" thing then they are going to have significantly less hostility. There have been a couple of people that have come on here and said they weren't bronies but were curious as to why bronies were into the show and the reaction has been overwhelmingly positive because of both their tone and because they didn't buy into the "anti brony" circle jerk even if the show wasn't their cup of tea.

 

This isn't the Israeli-Palestinian issue for crying out loud and yet there are people here who for whatever reason seem to think it is, there is no great idealogical divide and calling it one makes a complete and total mockery of all the actual political and religious conflicts in this world. The only divide is one group likes a show and the other can't get their heads out of their asses and get over the fact that people other than little girls like said show. It really is that simple, and I wish people would stop over complicating this matter.

[cuteycindyhoney 13,315]

Am I the only one that doesn't give a flying feather if there are people that don't like a show I like? MLP:FIM gets good enough ratings to assure more seasons. That's all I care about.

[NightGuard 251]

I'm African American that whole KKK thing is very f***ing offensive....

[Arylett Charnoa 4,919]

I saw this and thought it seemed a bit silly and misguided.

 

To be honest, I'm not sure why this person calls himself an "anti-brony." To me, an anti-anything seems like a person who goes out of their way to be against something, makes an effort, and actively wants to stop it and shut it down from being a thing. He seemed more like a non-fan who had certain little tick-offs about how prevalent the fandom is. (understandable to me. If I were a non-fan and everytime I searched for something, I saw pony, I'd be pretty annoyed. Though I wouldn't label myself an anti-anything due to it.)

 

The thought of "respecting" a group of people which is formed solely based on mutually hating/disliking something seems... wrong to me. He treats the anti-bronies as though they themselves are also a fandom, but they're not. Their existence is solely based on the fact that they don't like those who like MLP. I think the video would be more effective if it was about non-bronies who are iffy about the show and bronies getting along, and how to be respectful towards those who don't want so much pony shoved up their noses. 

[The Dandy 73]

They are trolls not because they can't get over their butthurt that some people other than little girls happen to like ponies. It should be obvious to everyone how immature and stupid it is to be anti brony, bronyism isn't a religion even if some bronies treat it like one and it is not a political movement yet the whole "anti brony" treats it like it is one. "Anti brony" is a non starter because it gives the message "we are against anyone other than little girls watching a harmless cartoon" why is it such a shocker that this is met with hostility? If they drop the "anti brony" thing then they are going to have significantly less hostility. There have been a couple of people that have come on here and said they weren't bronies but were curious as to why bronies were into the show and the reaction has been overwhelmingly positive because of both their tone and because they didn't buy into the "anti brony" circle jerk even if the show wasn't their cup of tea.

 

This isn't the Israeli-Palestinian issue for crying out loud and yet there are people here who for whatever reason seem to think it is, there is no great idealogical divide and calling it one makes a complete and total mockery of all the actual political and religious conflicts in this world. The only divide is one group likes a show and the other can't get their heads out of their asses and get over the fact that people other than little girls like said show. It really is that simple, and I wish people would stop over complicating this matter.

I would suggest that it is not them who can't get over their "buthurt". I would also suggest that individuals (such as ourselves) that enjoy a show designed for children don't really have the right to accuse others of being immature. It may not be a religious or a political movement, but it is a social movement, and like any social movement it has it's opposers and supporters. People have as much of a right to hate something as to like it, as much as we wish hate wasn't a part of the world it is, and people will express it, and we're no better if we simply fight fire with fire.

 

Why is everyone so obsessed with making extreme comparisons? I concur with you though, people should not be comparing the "struggles" or whatever they call it, of Bronies to those of other groups. It's like how Bronies say "coming out of the closet" when they're referring to admitting they're Bronies, it makes a mockery of the struggles the LGBT+ community needs to go through. Well I liked where you were going, but please stop just plain insulting people because you don't understand why they do what they do. If confusion is treated with hatred then it becomes a violent world.

[Shanks 10,816]

I would suggest that it is not them who can't get over their "buthurt". I would also suggest that individuals (such as ourselves) that enjoy a show designed for children don't really have the right to accuse others of being immature.

Really? Treating the fact that people like something they don't to the point where they start for lack of a better term a hatedome isn't immature and butthurt? And isn't it a tad hypocritical considering that most of them are perfectly okay with teens and adults watching many other childrens shows?

 

 

It may not be a religious or a political movement, but it is a social movement, and like any social movement it has it's opposers and supporters.

Really? By that logic why aren't the Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who or countless other fandoms considered social movements? It is just a fraggin show, why is it so hard for people to understand that? "I don't like this therefore fuck you" isn't a mere difference of opinion it is called being a jackass but "this is not my cup of tea" is a civil and understandable difference of opinion.

 

 

but please stop just plain insulting people because you don't understand why they do what they do. If confusion is treated with hatred then it becomes a violent world.

I understand pefectly why people do that, they are either stuck in past and still believe in the outdated gender roles and feel threatened by the brony fandom, have insecurities about sexuality and masculinity and feel threatened and lash out because of that. Or just a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do than to try to torment people for attention. I understand firsthand that some people just stand that there are people different from them, I know exactly what it is like to be singled out for that and that is why I have zero sympathy for these filth. Sure this all happened to me before bronies existed but I honestly see no difference between the people that have personally tormented me and these people. Yes we shouldn't fight fire with fire because they love attention but that dosen't mean I am going to be happy when people try to treat them like they should be taken even the slightest bit seriously.

[The Dandy 73]

Really? Treating the fact that people like something they don't to the point where they start for lack of a better term a hatedome isn't immature and butthurt? And isn't it a tad hypocritical considering that most of them are perfectly okay with teens and adults watching many other childrens shows?

 

 

 

Really? By that logic why aren't the Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who or countless other fandoms considered social movements? It is just a fraggin show, why is it so hard for people to understand that? "I don't like this therefore fuck you" isn't a mere difference of opinion it is called being a jackass but "this is not my cup of tea" is a civil and understandable difference of opinion.

 

 

 

I understand pefectly why people do that, they are either stuck in past and still believe in the outdated gender roles and feel threatened by the brony fandom, have insecurities about sexuality and masculinity and feel threatened and lash out because of that. Or just a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do than to try to torment people for attention. I understand firsthand that some people just stand that there are people different from them, I know exactly what it is like to be singled out for that and that is why I have zero sympathy for these filth. Sure this all happened to me before bronies existed but I honestly see no difference between the people that have personally tormented me and these people. Yes we shouldn't fight fire with fire because they love attention but that dosen't mean I am going to be happy when people try to treat them like they should be taken even the slightest bit seriously.

It's a shame you replied he way you did, it makes my responce someone what confusing.

So in regards to your first paragraph I was simply pointing out that many Bronies say things like you have been, against anti-Bronies, they are just as much as angry and butthurt as anti bronies are. But at least anti bronies know that they are trying to be annoying, but Bronies automatically assume they are in the right no matter what the situation. It's not hipocritcal, it's like stating "isn't it hipocritical for you to hate Aliens Colonal Marines, since you like video games" or "Isn't to hipocritcal of you to not want 13 year olds playing GTA V, since you are fine with 16 years old playing it".

 

In regards to the second paragraph, for future reference the fandom of starwars stems from the movies not the shows. And yes they were all social movements that's why people call others "dorks" "geeks" and "nerds" for liking those shows or movies. Well, you are so very found of people saying "this isn't my cup if tea" in the face of things they don't like, yet you clearly get very upset and hatful regarding

anti-Bronies, which you don't like.

 

In regards to your third paragraph, Oh my god, you just brought up the "you're just insure in your sexuality and gender" argument. Which is the most overused and incorrect argument there is. People oppose somthing, as opposed to tolerating it, because they are against the idea, not because of some sexuality or gender related issue. You clearly enjoy tormenting anti-Bronies, here, where you are bound to find none, and if you do, the website is on your side. But of course, they're the losers and cowards. It all goes back to what I said, Bronies always assume they are in the right. You're right, anti-Bronies should be treated just as seriously as Bronies, which is of course, not the slightest bit.

[WunderWaffen_ 165]

 

 

I'm sorry if I came off as the "rude, vocal minority" but I really don't see why this is a thing.

Rude? Not rude. Truthful.

 

We are continuously tolerant and loving of most things. Why do we even have to classify what is against us and what is for us? I agree with you 100%. Only the bronies and the Anti-bronies, or as I like to call them "Ignorant people", give a damn about us! Why do we put ourselves through this pain? Trying to classify and label different people's ideals. Let them live as we would like to be left alone.

 

That sounds biblical, Geez, every religion says that. Why do we not follow that rule? Enough babbling... Anyway @StarStripe you are, in my view 100% right, I didn't even need to watch the video to think of this answer.

Edited July 3, 2014 by WunderWaffen

[Snow Frostflame 3,568]

no I do not see any valid points in the A.B.B I don't like them and I will never forgive them for all the souls they hurt they are my enemy and my revenge is great I love and tolerate them by laughing at them as they insult me and say "Oh the best thing about being a Brony is to see you guys try sooo hard to offend us and fail at it" then I give them a hug and run off as for the internet ones I just ignore them its better off if we pretend they don't exist

[Solid 1,327]

Learn from the moral anti-bronies, a good point they make is that we shouldn't be forcing people to watch ponies. We can use mlp refs but to spam it is overboard. Learn from them to make us a better fandom.

 

As for those haters who are like "hahahahaha fag." Just tell them to *** off lol.

[Shanks 10,816]

"Isn't to hipocritcal of you to not want 13 year olds playing GTA V, since you are fine with 16 years old playing it"

That argument makes no sense Grand Theft Auto V is deemed innapropriate for young children because of its violence while MLP is regarded as innapropriate for teens and adults to watch because of arbitrary social rules and norms that belong in the trash. You can't even begin to compare the two so my hypocrisy argument still stands.

 

 

yet you clearly get very upset and hatful regarding

anti-Bronies, which you don't like.

And why should I like them? They criticize bronies for trying to force their opinions on people and some of them indeed do which yes is quite annoying but to be "anti brony" by definition means that you are trying to force the opinion on "MLP is for little girls" onto everyone. When people try to force something on me than it usually tends to have the opposite effect on me. It seems like so many people here need to crack open a dictionary and look up the words "anti" and "hater" and see what they actually mean instead of trying to make the case that it is merely a difference of opinion. It is a difference of opinion for someone to say "I prefer vanilla ice cream" but it is a very different matter for someone to say "I hate *insert group of people here* who eat chocolate ice cream because it is only for *insert other group of people here* and believe that *insert group of people here* should not be allowed to eat chocolate ice cream." Not being able to deal with other peoples preferences and respecting others is not having an opinion it is just being an asshole.

 

 

In regards to your third paragraph, Oh my god, you just brought up the "you're just insure in your sexuality and gender" argument. Which is the most overused and incorrect argument there is. People oppose somthing, as opposed to tolerating it, because they are against the idea, not because of some sexuality or gender related issue.

Than can you please enlighten me as to why there are so many arguments about bronies supposedly being gay? Or worse yet that bronies are pedophiles? Granted some of it is just people trolling but there really are people that are dumb enough to actually believe that. And you can't deny that there are huge double standards regarding gender on both sides in this case it is okay for girls to like things that are "masculine" but something must be wrong with someone if it is the other way around.

 

 

You clearly enjoy tormenting anti-Bronies, here

Actually I don't because I learned a long time ago that feeding trolls only makes them stronger. But just because I recognize this dosen't mean that a part of me isn't temped to give them a taste of their own medicine. The part of me that says "ignore them" usually wins out though. Pony forums like this are the only place where I have expressed opinions like this.

[Simon 4,557]

The problem with this video is that it really seems to have no understanding what an anti-brony (or anti-anything for that matter) really is.

 

Here's the issue...

 

To be a brony, all you have to do is like a show.  It's a group whose identity is based on their like for something.  Because of this, you have a wide range of involvement levels and personalities, which is why you have that vocal minority which the video talks about.  While there are certainly some bronies whose focus is too argue with people and who are overly defensive and argumentative, it doesn't represent the majority or entirety of the group.

 

Contrarily, anti-bronies are specifically against something.  Unlike bronies, this group's identity is based on not wanting bronies to like my little pony or in some way having negative perceptions of us.  This video would be right if we were talking about something more along the lines of the debates between fans of Star Trek and Star Wars.  Where neither of those groups core identity is based on confrontation with one another, here we're talking about a group of people whose only reason for existing is because of an underlying hatred or dislike of bronies.  While there may be some people in that group who are more rational and easier to talk to, it's still a community of people who are only in that community because they dislike us.

 

What that boils down to is that we're not just misunderstanding them.  This is a group of people who have such contempt for us liking a show meant for little girls, that they are actually willing to form a community just so they can talk to other people who have contempt for us as well.

 

I have no problem with someone not liking the show, and I have nothing but the utmost respect for people's choice to not watch the show.  But not liking the show or even hating the show is in no way the same thing as being an anti-brony.  Anti-bronies are a group based on nothing but contempt and hatred, and I don't have to respect someone's contempt and hatred of me.

 

I'm not going to go around insulting or attacking people for not liking the show, but there's nothing wrong with defending myself against someone who is contemptuous of my love of MLP.

 

 

 

Learn from the moral anti-bronies, a good point they make is that we shouldn't be forcing people to watch ponies. We can use mlp refs but to spam it is overboard. Learn from them to make us a better fandom.

 

I agree with you in some regard, but I really am getting so tired of hearing this.  They act like they're going to melt into a puddle if they have to see a picture of Pinkie Pie.  People post about television shows and stuff on other websites all the time.  How many discussions do we have on here about video games, movies and television shows that aren't related to MLP?  There's nothing wrong with talking about MLP on a non-pony website as long as its within that sites rules, and while certainly there are a few people who go overboard and spam ponies on a site, instances of that are few and far between. 

 

The joke of the whole thing is that the people who complain about bronies posting mlp things on non-pony sites are usually the same people who make accounts on pony sites just to argue with bronies.  If they can't stand being exposed to MLP, maybe they should focus more on their own lives, and less on going on pony sites just to harass people.

[TwilightDerpy 15]

I don't like it when people say MLP is a little girl's show, and whoever watches it now is, um, homosexual, to put it in a nice way. SICK OF IT!!!

[Solid 1,327]

I think it's really about defining what an anti-brony really is.

 

My definition of anti-brony is someone who NOT ONLY dislike the show and its fans, BUT ALSO ACTIVELY go out of their way to physically/mentally harm people affiliated with the show and its fans.

 

I would define someone who dislikes the show and its fans, but still could maintain his/her manners, state logical arguments, and actually respect/tolerate them WITHOUT actively harming them as a brony disliker.

 

Because in my opinion anti is pretty extreme, like trying to oppose the other side in all ways necessary.

[SilverLine 20]

I can tolerate whatever these trolls say, and I know they have a right to their own opinion. But it's hard to tolerate the ones who mention autistics in their comments. I happen to have Asperger's Syndrome which is a form of autism. I know there're some bronies that have autistic spectrum disorders as well; but to be called (excuse my language) "Fucking retarded faggots" , "underdeveloped man babies", "These autistic horse fuckers should kill themselves!" I can't stand it! Autistics are not these so called, "Stupid, dirty idiots that have no lives and live in their parents' basement," kind of people. I've learned of a lot of high functioning autistics that are hard-working, married and have families. There're some, like myself, who are still struggling to make it society; but at least I'm trying hard! I wish they would just STOP!!

 

Sorry, I had to take that off my chest<,(