Are there any gay ponies in Equestria?

[cider float 2,538]

Honestly I only think Steven Magnet would be gay...... That is only because he is so flamboyant!

 

Steven Magnet was the most weirdest name in MLP because it's a human name.

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

Um...you do know what the word gay means right?

Do you know what the word gay means? Because it sure doesn't seem like you do. 

[Kivil 1,721]

Steven Magnet was the most weirdest name in MLP because it's a human name.

I guess you are right mate! He does have a weird mane!

[Chronamut 355]

I am not twisting your words - you said "And they often act like women and dress in drags or act very girlish."

 

OFTEN act is a judgment. You are actively trying to condemn people here as being less of a man, less of a person, how do you think that makes gay people feel?

 

Also on that note, why is it wrong to act like any of those things? It's almost implying that women are somehow inferior. I hope that is not how you view people irl..

 

also I realize this forum is not the place to discuss these things, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there, so I will back down now and let this fun loving community resume its natural course

 

this is probably why there are no gay ponies confirmed in the series.

Edited October 30, 2015 by Chronamut

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

I am not twisting your words - you said "And they often act like women and dress in drags or act very girlish."

 

OFTEN act is a judgment. You are actively trying to condemn people here as being less of a man, less of a person, how do you think that makes gay people feel?

...Judging you? What is this I don't even...

 

Also on that note, why is it wrong to act like any of those things? It's almost implying that women are somehow inferior. I hope that is not how you view people irl..

I never said it was wrong...And nor do I think that it is...

 

also I realize this forum is not the place to discuss these things, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there, so I will back down now and let this fun loving community resume its natural course

 

this is probably why there are no gay ponies confirmed in the series.

Alright thank you.

[sweetolebob18 728]

Based on the male/female ratio seen on the show in Ponyville either:

1) For some reason Ponyville is VERY unusual & WAY different from the rest of EQ.

2) Polygamy (1 male, many females) is the standard.  But, the Cakes, Cadence & SA, Cranky, Twilight & Rarity's parents all seem monogamous.  Maybe they are exceptions, but as far as can be seen, monogamy seems to be the norm.

3) Due to sheer force of numbers, most females have zero hope of ever being married.  Society must make some concessions to reality.  Perhaps celibacy is the publicly assumed norm but lesbianism must be at least implicitly tolerated if not explicitly approved.

 

However, homosexuality is perhaps NOT so tolerated.  I can see a pretty fair amount of pressure on males to marry & at least some disapproval on the grounds of "there aren't enough males to go around as it is without unfair competition making it worse"

 

I'd also assume Big Mac is getting to the age where there is some pressure on him to marry.  Even in our society, you hit a certain age (30s, perhaps?) without ever being married (or in some less formal arrangement = to marriage) & people begin to make certain assumptions about you.  Given the male/female ratio in EQ, if you ain't married by, say, 30ish you either ain't trying (Big Mac, too shy?) or impossible to please (Blue Blood)

[Miles 2,512]

OFTEN act is a judgment. You are actively trying to condemn people here as being less of a man, less of a person, how do you think that makes gay people feel?

 

...Judging you? What is this I don't even...

 

*Sigh*

 

Look... I don't usually pull this card because I'm typically humble, etc...

 

But as a bisexual I'm gonna have to agree with Asbel here.  Sorry Chronamut, but there's a big difference between amplified [false] stereotypes, and statistics.

 

If something truly IS "more often than not" - it isn't judgemental nor mean to say it, it's just being blunt, and keen.  

 

I'm not saying you don't have a right to feel a bit of dismay or anger towards how Asbel has previously responded, but, please look at the big picture.  

 

And lastly, to sort of give the extra umph here...

 

 

 

Literally speaking, effeminate men really are "less manly" so, don't blame the messenger, blame the dictionary.

 

~ Miles

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

*Sigh*

 

Look... I don't usually pull this card because I'm typically humble, etc...

 

But as a bisexual I'm gonna have to agree with Asbel here.  Sorry Chronamut, but there's a big difference between amplified [false] stereotypes, and statistics.

 

If something truly IS "more often than not" - it isn't judgemental nor mean to say it, it's just being blunt, and keen.  

 

I'm not saying you don't have a right to feel a bit of dismay or anger towards how Asbel has previously responded, but, please look at the big picture.  

 

And lastly, to sort of give the extra umph here...

 

 

 

Literally speaking, effeminate men really are "less manly" so, don't blame the messenger, blame the dictionary.

 

~ Miles

...THANK YOU.

 

Also I truly don't understand how what I said was taken as being offensive or how it even appeared to be offensive towards homosexuals. And I honestly was not trying to be offensive at all. No idea why Chronamut got offended.

[Miles 2,512]

...THANK YOU.

 

Also I truly don't understand how what I said was taken as being offensive or how it even appeared to be offensive towards homosexuals. And I honestly was not trying to be offensive at all. No idea why Chronamut got offended.

 

You are welcome, sir. 

 

Also, I agree there.  I can even go as far as calling him a slight bit [indirectly] hypocritical.  Why?  This:

 

if anything just seeing ponies engage however they want in the bg without anything being focused on would be great - kinda like how bonbon and lyra are always nudging up to each other - it's only seen as an issue if you call attention out to it.. just make it all natural, and people will think it's natural too.

 

I am sure mlp doesn't want the religious freaks breathing down their neck, so everything so far has been very much "implied".\

 

Y'know, I'm a Christian, and I'm bi, so if I ... "felt like it" ... I could call that offensive.

 

But I'm not a wuss, lmfao, so I don't give a shit.  I don't get offended easily.  (Which sort of... proves a point... take that as you will).

 

On the other hand, Chronamut did have a point somewhere (not taking the time to quote it but w/e)... He said not all gay men are effeminate.

 

That is true, and applies to all of LGBTQ+ (and its inverse as well, that being, not all gay women are "manly women" or whatever you want to call it).

 

~ Miles

[TedEbear 8]

there's no real way to broach the topic in depth, at most you'd see two colts or fillies or whatever walking together on hearts and hooves day with some sort of romantic indication... while i like the idea of touching on the subject i feel like it's a risky move in a children's show like this... they could never really get into it too deeply however the ad where you can't tell the gay couple is gay or the gay husband at the bar from the straight husband, some play like that would be interesting as a joke... of course there was the whole fluttershy's partying past with the one stoner pony... who knows... i feel like it would be more a taboo for people to see two men together than two women for some reason... at least to us and other more theistic leaning countries, but who knows at canada now they had a pretty radical prime minister sneak in by keeping his views quiet... if someone makes it and pulls it off well enough it could be the next twilight-licious

[Chronamut 355]

I'm not hypocritical - I'd be hypocritical if I said that religious people are often freaks. I simply meant if you put gayness into it all the "kims" and christians who hate gay people are going to come out and attack it saying mlp is trying to corrupt their children.

 

as for why saying gays are often effeminate is seen as a bad thing, it feels like when you see gays, that is all you see, when those are simply the ones that draw the most attention to themselves. I myself am not effeminate acting, and so I wouldn't really like to be blanketed as "oh he's gay, he's from that group that acts girly and dresses in drag, I bet he doesn't even know how to use powerhools"

 

also if you look up the word effeminate, it has never been used in a praising way towards men in all of history.

 

It's just a thorny subject for gays that's all - a lot of us just want to be considered the same as any other guy out there.

there's no real way to broach the topic in depth, at most you'd see two colts or fillies or whatever walking together on hearts and hooves day with some sort of romantic indication... while i like the idea of touching on the subject i feel like it's a risky move in a children's show like this... they could never really get into it too deeply however the ad where you can't tell the gay couple is gay or the gay husband at the bar from the straight husband, some play like that would be interesting as a joke... of course there was the whole fluttershy's partying past with the one stoner pony... who knows... i feel like it would be more a taboo for people to see two men together than two women for some reason... at least to us and other more theistic leaning countries, but who knows at canada now they had a pretty radical prime minister sneak in by keeping his views quiet... if someone makes it and pulls it off well enough it could be the next twilight-licious

 

oh stephen harper didn't have a chance in hell of having his preference issues have any weight on the country - canada has been pro-gay for decades now hehe..

 

canada could push the boundaries, but the more I think about it, the more I feel they want to avoid a conflict of interest, and so are just making characters.. characters.

Edited October 30, 2015 by Chronamut

[Celli 4,338]

It's certainly possible, though I doubt the show staff would get away with showing ponies that are homosexual or bisexual.

[cider float 2,538]

Right, I forgot that straight guys are attracted to literally every girl in the universe.

 

 

First of all, Blueblood might be asexual. Second, just because he wasn't attracted to Rarity doesn't mean that he's gay, not every straight guy is attracted to all women. And lastly, you haven't meet many gay people, have you?

Well he did go on a date with her but from what I saw he just wasn't a gentleman.

[Queen Luna 22]

Well, if I were living there, there would be.

 

Lol, but seriously. Any of the ponies could be of any orientation. I think what's important is to not ruin people's headcanons.

[Lucky Shot 232]

I'd like to point out that the apparent gender ratio issue is a forced skewed perception caused by the fact this show is intended primarily for little girls, so an overwhelming majority of the high-profile cast are female. As the children this show is intended for aren't old enough to push the romantic hot guy angle other than as a joke with Rarity and co, there's no pressure to add male love interests for the characters either.

 

That's (part of) why Flash Sentry isn't in the main show, nor do most of the main characters have any longterm mates in general.

 

Apparent couples such as Heartstrings & Sweetie Drops or Octavia & Vinyl Scratch most likely aren't. Everyone in Ponyville has a building that is conveniently themed after them, regardless of how much sense it makes, so nothing more is proved than that they're probably living together -- which is much more casual in cartoons / Equestria than it would be here on Earth.

 

However, as a not-really-pansexual*, part-time adult artist, and general pervert, I have no objections to the portrayal of any of these characters as couples in varying degrees of lewdness.

 

* I don't know what this word means today thanks to Tumblr but in short I don't mind gay ppl

[Chronamut 355]

and if they aren't in the show, the internet will make them

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

There probably are but the writers probably don't want to tackle it to avoid controversy and backlash. I mean, I'm surprised Steven Universe got away with it without having some Christians freaking out. But to be honest, a lot of the characters people are considering gay really don't have a lot of evidence to prove that and are only based on stereotypes.

 

Bulk Bicepts? Why? Even by a stereotype standpoint it wouldn't work because aren't people who are muscular stereotyped as being straight?

 

Prince Blueblood? I mean sure, he rejected Rarity but maybe he just didn't like her. Or maybe he's just stuck up. Rejecting one mare doesn't mean you dislike the whole gender.

 

Braeburn? This is one I never understood at all. Is it because he's eccentric? Because that has nothing to do with sexuality.

 

And Caramel. Wasn't he shown dating a mare in Hearts and Hooves day?

 

Look, I'm not saying there are no gay or lesbian ponies in Equestria or that I don't want there to be any. It's just that it wouldn't really contribute that much to the show (Not even on the basis of having bragging rights on being the first kids show to do it) and a lot of the characters people consider gay don't really have a whole lot of evidence to back it up.

[Daring_Do 552]

Mike Vogel referred to Steven Magnet as gay... So I guess he is? (but he's not a pony)

[Blue Moon 6,341]

Hi @Trine,

 

Your thread appears to be discussing MLP:FiM in some way, shape or form. As such, it has been sentenced to Show Discussion.

[ARagY 1,152]

Gay, Lesbian - probably. But obviously this won't be shown on TV because of the current status quo surrounding this subject. But we cannot simply assume that they don't exist because they can't show it. We got a pretty big confirmation with the LyBon thing without being enough for angry parents to phone in and/or sue for teaching their child the gay ways or something. So yes, i think they exist, as they do for us. Why not? 

[Chronamut 355]

they will just remain as "SUCH good friends" ;)

in addition mlp seems to be taking this almost as a step into a future

 

sexuality isn't discussed, anyone lives with anyone, and there are no taboos seen with snowing any amt of affection to anyone.

 

People aren't being singled out as being different - everyone is just free to express love and affection however they want.

 

I'd love to just go up to someone I thought was attractive and hug them and have them appreciate it.

 

I'd love for the world to get to the level of acceptance shown with the characters in mlp, where hugs and happiness are the cure-all for misery

[The Nth Doctor 662]

According to the fandom, everyone

 

Mares only prefer mares

Stallions only prefer stallions

And suggesting otherwise is a good way to get lynched

 

 

Exceptions:

Cranky and Matilda

Shining Armor and Cadence/Chrysalis

Mr and Mrs. Cake

[Vixor 80]

Yes, I'm sure there would be. Why not? Not everyone and their mother like the fandom seems to suggest sometimes, but I see no reason for them to not exist and I'm sure they'd be accepted.

 

Based on the male/female ratio seen on the show in Ponyville either:

1) For some reason Ponyville is VERY unusual & WAY different from the rest of EQ.

2) Polygamy (1 male, many females) is the standard.  But, the Cakes, Cadence & SA, Cranky, Twilight & Rarity's parents all seem monogamous.  Maybe they are exceptions, but as far as can be seen, monogamy seems to be the norm.

3) Due to sheer force of numbers, most females have zero hope of ever being married.  Society must make some concessions to reality.  Perhaps celibacy is the publicly assumed norm but lesbianism must be at least implicitly tolerated if not explicitly approved.

 

However, homosexuality is perhaps NOT so tolerated.  I can see a pretty fair amount of pressure on males to marry & at least some disapproval on the grounds of "there aren't enough males to go around as it is without unfair competition making it worse"

 

I'd also assume Big Mac is getting to the age where there is some pressure on him to marry.  Even in our society, you hit a certain age (30s, perhaps?) without ever being married (or in some less formal arrangement = to marriage) & people begin to make certain assumptions about you.  Given the male/female ratio in EQ, if you ain't married by, say, 30ish you either ain't trying (Big Mac, too shy?) or impossible to please (Blue Blood)

 

The male/female ratio? The background pony crowds are filled with so many clones and are so inconsistent that I can't even begin to see how you and others could take them so seriously. You couldn't possibly justify using them for census purposes. I'm pretty sure the male/female ratio is even, and we just don't see it because DHX is trigger-happy with the copy/paste button. Between that and the target audience of the show skewing things further to some extent and also potentially insuring that more of the background pony assets they are copy/pasting end up being female, I'm tired of people insisting that those crowds of ponies are some sort of reliable indicator of anything, much less something as important and detailed as a census.

 

Just look at this picture and look at how many clones. This is basically the norm for crowds of background ponies, and it's silly. http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Audience_and_actors_singing_The_Heart_Carol_finale_S2E11.png I don't really blame DHX for not spending valuable time to handcraft every single crowd of ponies, but to take those kinds of crowds seriously enough to try and determine population statistics is very unreasonable.

 

Anyway, the ponies are primarily monogamous, so yeah, monogamy is the norm. Don't think that means poly would be illegal or unaccepted or something, but it's probably rather uncommon like it is here. And I also know there's not a chance in heck they would discriminate against male homosexuals. That would just be a disgusting double-standard, especially for a society like Equestria where love is so highly valued and cherished.

Edited November 11, 2015 by Vixor

[sweetolebob18 728]

Gay ponies?  To quote an old line from Seinfeld "Not that there's anything wrong with that"

[IcyT 0]

Closest I recall seeing is the unicorn stallion having a romantic dinner with the pegasus stallion in Triple Threat. Roses on table, heart on wall. Subtle and only seen a split second during Spike's search.