spoiler It's been a good ride for FiM

[Silver Stream. 708]

After watching "Scare Master" not too long ago (please refrain from discussing that topic here, I don't want to ruin it for some people who hasn't seen the episode and is waiting for it to be aired ) and seeing CMC episode....I'm afraid FiM may be ending around Season 6 or maybe even a Season 7

 

I've been seeing some other discussions about this hunch, and I have to agree with the others: this may be leading to a close. 

 

In another discussion I created, I was pointing out how I am seeing some growth within the characters like Rainbowdash, and even Rarity that we haven't seen in the other 4 seasons. I mentioned how repetitive some lessons were and how the mane six didn't seem to carry what they learned in later episodes. Fluttershy, for example, would always have to struggle over the same things which were understandable given her situation but even now she's beginning to grow. I would even go as far to say she's the most stable mane character out of the six within Season 5. Outside of the mane six, spike is HUGE example of how repetitive the lessons were since in most of his episodes, they keep telling him is isn't as useless as he feels. 

 

Anyway, I guess I was pointing out how each of the mane six are slowly but surely reaching their arc though I wouldn't say they have reached it yet. Even the supporting casts like the CMC (them finding their true calling and getting their cutie marks) and Luna (her finally forgiving herself and letting go of the past) are beginning to reach their arcs as well if they haven't already. Everyone is starting to find themselves and get their stuff together. 

 

My thoughts: that once everyone has reached their arc and there is closure delivered to the G4 series....we will be left with a new chapter for the next generation to finish and for them to reach an arc that the end of this series will most likely open. I honestly wish it won't end soon....but it's a shock FiM has managed to survive this long. Even with a some sloppy episodes and mistakes Hasbros have made, they've managed to keep things going without making it feel dragged on. I'm pretty sure the mark FiM is leaving even though they haven't ended yet, the fandom will stay strong and move onward after the show reaches their end. Plus I hear there is a movie coming out in 2017? Definitely predicting the FiM will come to a close 

[Pez 106]

Actually, the only reason why they gave the CMC their marks is because they wanted the anniversary to be something to remember. That's what people do on anniversaries! They make them special!

[green 331]

That may be true. There has been alot of character development and closing character arcs in this season and it may signify that the series will end soon. Though I wish for it to last so much longer

Edited October 13, 2015 by WindRide

[Silver Stream. 708]

I'm not basing the possible ending for FiM just on the CMC getting their cutiemarks....I'm only including that as a factor to my prediction. I've seen where the CMC episode have caused discussions about FiM ending soon, but it was actually "Scare Master" and a second look at "Do Princess Dream of Magic Sheep" and other episodes that made me come up with this conclusion. It's the Growth. I wasn't even a huge fan of that last CMC episode because how poorly executed it was imo. But I explained my thoughts on that already in another thread

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

And I'd be perfectly okay if the show ended at season 6 or 7. I do agree with your stance on how the characters have shown a lot of growth since the pilot, since character development is always nice. Besides, 6 or 7 seasons is IMHO the perfect run for a good show. It gets its perfect run time while not overstaying its welcome like other shows that run passed their prime.

[NavelColt 22,883]

Hasbro made a public statement late 2014/early 2015 that they'd be continuing the FiM brand for at least another five years ( which was on EQD back during the time). Assuming they make new episodes for as long or nearly as long as the brand lasts, that's eight or nine seasons, not six or seven. 

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

Hasbro made a public statement late 2014/early 2015 that they'd be continuing the FiM brand for at least another five years ( which was on EQD back during the time). Assuming they make new episodes for as long or nearly as long as the brand lasts, that's eight or nine seasons, not six or seven. 

 

The Brand is not exclusive to the show first of all. And the statement was made late 2013.

[Silver Stream. 708]

Hasbro made a public statement late 2014/early 2015 that they'd be continuing the FiM brand for at least another five years ( which was on EQD back during the time). Assuming they make new episodes for as long or nearly as long as the brand lasts, that's eight or nine seasons, not six or seven. 

Could you give me a link to that?

 

And if they do, I'm strongly curious what surprises will spring up for them to stretch FiM that long. If they pull it off WITHOUT making the series become a drag, then I'd be very impressed. Even so, that's still only the franchise. It's still possible for the tv series to end pretty soon. Maybe they will continue the tv series for another five years, but that public statement still wouldn't count out the possibility that it'll end sooner than that

[Unlikeable Pony 2,699]

Hasbro made a public statement late 2014/early 2015 that they'd be continuing the FiM brand for at least another five years ( which was on EQD back during the time). Assuming they make new episodes for as long or nearly as long as the brand lasts, that's eight or nine seasons, not six or seven. 

That just means they'll keep making FIM toys that long, not episodes.

 

And since there's a movie coming out in 2017, that syncs up 100% perfectly with them ending on S6, having the movie, and then making the movie's toys for a year after it to get a full run.

[NavelColt 22,883]

The Brand is not exclusive to the show first of all. And the statement was made late 2013.

 

Well excuse me, Princess 

By the way, you're incorrect. February, 2014. <3 See below.

 

Could you give me a link to that?

 

And if they do, I'm strongly curious what surprises will spring up for them to stretch FiM that long. If they pull it off WITHOUT making the series become a drag, then I'd be very impressed. Even so, that's still only the franchise. It's still possible for the tv series to end pretty soon. Maybe they will continue the tv series for another five years, but that public statement still wouldn't count out the possibility that it'll end sooner than that

 

--> http://www.equestriadaily.com/2014/02/discussion-5-more-years-what-do-you.html

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

Well excuse me, Princess 

By the way, you're incorrect. February, 2014. <3 See below.

 

 

--> http://www.equestriadaily.com/2014/02/discussion-5-more-years-what-do-you.html

 

Then we're both incorrect.

 

We both lose and realize that friendship is more important.

[NavelColt 22,883]

Then we're both incorrect.

 

We both lose and realize that friendship is more important.

 

Except that I said 'assuming', forfeiting solid fact and speaking in the hypothetical; I'm not right or wrong, I gave a statistic on one of the two approaches it could go.

 

Yay friendchips~ I like salt and vinegar.

[Arrowstormen 62]

That just means they'll keep making FIM toys that long, not episodes.

 

And since there's a movie coming out in 2017, that syncs up 100% perfectly with them ending on S6, having the movie, and then making the movie's toys for a year after it to get a full run.

If the movie is successful, and the show is still successful, they will want to continue it. 

 

What's up with all these "zomg the end is neigh" threads? I have not watched Scare Master, but Crusaders of the Lost Mark definitely did not set itself up as an "ending". 

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

If the movie is successful, and the show is still successful, they will want to continue it. 

 

What's up with all these "zomg the end is neigh" threads? I have not watched Scare Master, but Crusaders of the Lost Mark definitely did not set itself up as an "ending". 

 

Then what will we do, once the mane 6 have finished their story arcs. Twilight gets set up as the ruler of Equestria, Rarity already has her botique, Rainbow Dash becomes a full time Wonderbolt, etc.

 

What else is there to accomplish?

[Silver Stream. 708]

Thanks for the link!!

 

 

And Arrowstormen: The reason why a few people are making these assumptions is because of the growth we're seeing and the arcs that are being reached. Whenever these things happen, it's pretty much a possibility with the end drawing near. These episodes aren't like the others where they learn a lesson and move forward....they are reflecting deeper and long awaited closures and growth that started the series in the first place. 

[Arrowstormen 62]

Then what will we do, once the mane 6 have finished their story arcs. Twilight gets set up as the ruler of Equestria, Rarity already has her botique, Rainbow Dash becomes a full time Wonderbolt, etc.

 

What else is there to accomplish?

Pretty sure Twilight is still way off being ruler of Equestria, if she will ever be. That would pretty much require the show to kill off Celestia and Luna, and I can't see them do that. 

 

To quote Tangled, "you get to go find a new dream". People thought Twilight becoming a princess would be endgame, it wasn't. People thought CMC getting their cutie mark would be their endgame, it wasn't. Rarity getting a shop in Canterlot didn't mean she was going to live happily ever after, Rainbow Dash becoming a wonderbolt won't mean she will have no more troubles ever in life. They're still going to live in Ponyville, they're still going to be friends, and they're still going to save the world on occasion. 

 

Now, the show could end soon, but as long as it is successful, Hasbro will order more seasons and movies. We could hit 200 episodes somewhere in the future. The characters and show has subtly changed across the seasons, as long as it reinvents itself enough it can keep going. 

[Unlikeable Pony 2,699]

Then what will we do, once the mane 6 have finished their story arcs. Twilight gets set up as the ruler of Equestria, Rarity already has her botique, Rainbow Dash becomes a full time Wonderbolt, etc.

 

What else is there to accomplish?

To be honest, I'd be happy if they had the mane six come up with new goals and dreams in life, and have them trying to accomplish new things. Hell, I currently dislike the wonderbolts and think Dash should ditch them given how big of jerks they've turned out to be, so there's a new arc right there

 

 

 

If the movie is successful, and the show is still successful, they will want to continue it. 

 

What's up with all these "zomg the end is neigh" threads? I have not watched Scare Master, but Crusaders of the Lost Mark definitely did not set itself up as an "ending". 

The issue with waiting to see whether the movie is a success or not is that they wouldn't know if the movie is a success or not until 2017, and it takes almost a full year to make a new season (they tend to be working on the next season when the previous season is airing for that reason).

So if Season six finishes airing in 2016, we wouldn't get a season 7 until 2018 if they're going to base it on Movie sales.

 

Now, Hasbro might decide that Season 5/6 toy sales are good enough to greenlight S7 before the movie even comes out, that's something. But I'm just playing devil's advocate here against it. And keep in mind that Ratings have been dropping at a fast clip. We can't say with certainty until we get the sales figures that there's not a slippage going on there too.

[Silver Stream. 708]

Pretty sure Twilight is still way off being ruler of Equestria, if she will ever be. That would pretty much require the show to kill off Celestia and Luna, and I can't see them do that. 

 

To quote Tangled, "you get to go find a new dream". People thought Twilight becoming a princess would be endgame, it wasn't. People thought CMC getting their cutie mark would be their endgame, it wasn't. Rarity getting a shop in Canterlot didn't mean she was going to live happily ever after, Rainbow Dash becoming a wonderbolt won't mean she will have no more troubles ever in life. They're still going to live in Ponyville, they're still going to be friends, and they're still going to save the world on occasion. 

 

Now, the show could end soon, but as long as it is successful, Hasbro will order more seasons and movies. We could hit 200 episodes somewhere in the future. The characters and show has subtly changed across the seasons, as long as it reinvents itself enough it can keep going. 

I'm not counting out the possibility things will continue which was why I mentioned things ending at a Season 7 too. 

But those reasons still aren't reasons as to why the show should go on forever, In ANY show with a large fandom or franchise there will ALWAYS be something coming up or a new challenge for our characters. There is no such thing as REAL end for any show. 

 

That's why in my first post, I said that if G4 ends, it will probably open up a new chapter for G5. Maybe...none of us know. Even if things turns out to be successful, it's still possible to end things on a successful note rather than continuing too far or overstretching it. 

 

If you play out something for too long, odds are, things will backfire for the franchise. 

 

*shrugs* but I suppose we'll see in the years ahead

[Castle Bleck 19,387]

I blame Teen Titans Go! for making me wary of good things ending and being replaced.

[Arrowstormen 62]

Thanks for the link!!

 

 

And Arrowstormen: The reason why a few people are making these assumptions is because of the growth we're seeing and the arcs that are being reached. Whenever these things happen, it's pretty much a possibility with the end drawing near. These episodes aren't like the others where they learn a lesson and move forward....they are reflecting deeper and long awaited closures and growth that started the series in the first place. 

Which is fair, but every season can be the last one if Hasbro decides not to order a new one. Magical Mystery Cure was originally written as ending the show, but then they got renewed for a fourth season, and it was changed to leave room for more. And while the Cutie Mark Crusaders getting their cutie mark seems like an end to their journey, then the episode very explicitly says it's merely the beginning of a new chapter in their lives, where they get to help others discover their true selves. 

 

Could season 6 be the last? Maybe, but as I've mentioned, they will probably want to see what the movie does for the brand before closing it, so I'm pretty confident that they'll renew it for a season 7, as long as DHX doesn't somehow screw up season 6.

[Silver Stream. 708]

I blame Teen Titans Go! for making me wary of good things ending and being replaced.

Oh crap. I seriously despise that show. 

 

And Arrow:

 

I'm not counting out the possibility things will continue which was why I mentioned things ending at a Season 7 too. 

But those reasons still aren't reasons as to why the show should go on forever, In ANY show with a large fandom or franchise there will ALWAYS be something coming up or a new challenge for our characters. There is no such thing as REAL end for any show. 

 

That's why in my first post, I said that if G4 ends, it will probably open up a new chapter for G5. Maybe...none of us know. Even if things turns out to be successful, it's still possible to end things on a successful note rather than continuing too far or overstretching it. 

 

If you play out something for too long, odds are, things will backfire for the franchise. 

 

*shrugs* but I suppose we'll see in the years ahead

 

Also, it made sense  Magical Mystery Cure wasn't made the ending of the show and they made the right choice by continuing the series. Because MMC was mainly focused on Twilight. While she may be leader and one of the most important characters of the series, there were others who needed to reach their arc as well. Others like the Mane Six, CMC, even a few minor characters and also Princess Luna. It wouldn't have been fair if they ended it where Twilight reaches their destiny and the others haven't 

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

Which is fair, but every season can be the last one if Hasbro decides not to order a new one. Magical Mystery Cure was originally written as ending the show, but then they got renewed for a fourth season, and it was changed to leave room for more. And while the Cutie Mark Crusaders getting their cutie mark seems like an end to their journey, then the episode very explicitly says it's merely the beginning of a new chapter in their lives, where they get to help others discover their true selves. 

 

Could season 6 be the last? Maybe, but as I've mentioned, they will probably want to see what the movie does for the brand before closing it, so I'm pretty confident that they'll renew it for a season 7, as long as DHX doesn't somehow screw up season 6.

 

It's not just that the story is wrapping up. The last veterans of the team are also leaving now.

 

Amy Keating Rogers (writer since S1) is leaving for a job at Disney. M.A. Larson (writer since S1) is planning to write more books, after his last one was so successful. And our executive producer Megan Mccarthy (writer since S1) will become head of the storyboard for the girl brand of Hasbro.

 

So we have lost the rest of the veteran writers that we need to replace and we need a new executive producer. Not exactly easy shoes to fill, if they actually get filled.

[Arrowstormen 62]

 

The issue with waiting to see whether the movie is a success or not is that they wouldn't know if the movie is a success or not until 2017, and it takes almost a full year to make a new season (they tend to be working on the next season when the previous season is airing for that reason).

So if Season six finishes airing in 2016, we wouldn't get a season 7 until 2018 if they're going to base it on Movie sales.

 

Now, Hasbro might decide that Season 5/6 toy sales are good enough to greenlight S7 before the movie even comes out, that's something. But I'm just playing devil's advocate here against it. And keep in mind that Ratings have been dropping at a fast clip. We can't say with certainty until we get the sales figures that there's not a slippage going on there too.

 

They'll most likely greenlit a season 7 based on season 6, I'm just counterarguing the semi-popular notion that they would design and write the movie as a show-closer, since if it's a huge success (and considering that they're going to open it world-wide, they seem to not be fooling around) they'd want to have the option to continue onward. 

 

I'm not counting out the possibility things will continue which was why I mentioned things ending at a Season 7 too. 

But those reasons still aren't reasons as to why the show should go on forever, In ANY show with a large fandom or franchise there will ALWAYS be something coming up or a new challenge for our characters. There is no such thing as REAL end for any show. 

 

That's why in my first post, I said that if G4 ends, it will probably open up a new chapter for G5. Maybe...none of us know. Even if things turns out to be successful, it's still possible to end things on a successful note rather than continuing too far or overstretching it. 

 

If you play out something for too long, odds are, things will backfire for the franchise. 

 

*shrugs* but I suppose we'll see in the years ahead

I know people would dislike if the show ended because of declining popularity and possibly declining quality, and would rather it ended in a big, show-wrapping finale, but there's no way for us to tell whether or not the next season is going to be awesome. And until such a time when I find that pony has started to generally decline in quality, I will continue to wish for more pony.

 

Assuming pony will stay successful and excellent for the next two seasons, what I really think Hasbro is wondering about is if G4 will grow stale in terms of toys, and whether or not it's time for G5. And the movie will probably largely decide that. If it's a hit, it will cause a surge in G4, and they'll want to continue it. If not, they'll probably order a final season to wrap it up, and then get to work on the future of the brand. 

 

 

And Arrow:

 

 

Also, it made sense  Magical Mystery Cure wasn't made the ending of the show and they made the right choice by continuing the series. Because MMC was mainly focused on Twilight. While she may be leader and one of the most important characters of the series, there were others who needed to reach their arc as well. Others like the Mane Six, CMC, even a few minor characters and also Princess Luna. It wouldn't have been fair if they ended it where Twilight reaches their destiny and the others haven't 

I think we both know that it isn't about fairness. 

 

It's not just that the story is wrapping up. The last veterans of the team are also leaving now.

 

Amy Keating Rogers (writer since S1) is leaving for a job at Disney. M.A. Larson (writer since S1) is planning to write more books, after his last one was so successful. And our executive producer Megan Mccarthy (writer since S1) will become head of the storyboard for the girl brand of Hasbro.

 

So we have lost the rest of the veteran writers that we need to replace and we need a new executive producer. Not exactly easy shoes to fill, if they actually get filled.

AKR has left for Disney yes, which is sad, but as long as you get new talented people, it can continue. Haven't heard that M. A. Larson or Megan McCarthy are supposed to leave the show, even if he wants to write more books and she has a new job title. Head of storyboard sounds still pretty involved with the show. 

 

Lauren left the show after season 2, and people cried havoc, but as long as the people who take over are talented, the world won't end. 

[Unlikeable Pony 2,699]

They'll most likely greenlit a season 7 based on season 6, I'm just counterarguing the semi-popular notion that they would design and write the movie as a show-closer, since if it's a huge success (and considering that they're going to open it world-wide, they seem to not be fooling around) they'd want to have the option to continue onward. 

 

I know people would dislike if the show ended because of declining popularity and possibly declining quality, and would rather it ended in a big, show-wrapping finale, but there's no way for us to tell whether or not the next season is going to be awesome. And until such a time when I find that pony has started to generally decline in quality, I will continue to wish for more pony.

 

Well, to me it just seems likely that if things are left up to the movie's success they might make a G5 but continue FIM in movie form, like how transformers movies are in a different continuity from the Transformers cartoon series, or how DBZ is continuing in movie form atm.

[Pinkie-Guy 563]

I think season 5 is a turning point in the franchise.  I think they're preparing to move beyond the Mane 6 and the CMC and open up the world (and brand) more.  Maybe G4 ends after the movie, but I think Hasbro wants to continue banking on Bronies in the future with G5 or whatnot.  The end of G4 is not necessarily the end of pony.