Is anyone else on this site an atheist?

[K1NG_NAZARA 15]

Oooh. A religious topic on a forum that hasn't turned into a massive flustercluck yet. Quite intriguing.

 

I'm not an atheist

 

I have my own religion

[cider float 2,537]

Isn't everyone an atheist? Especially on the internet?

[PinkiePie97 913]

Isn't everyone an atheist? Especially on the internet?

No. What makes you day that?

[Lil Pip 775]

Isn't everyone an atheist? Especially on the internet?

I thought you weren't, and if you aren't then that shows that not everyone is. Usually with probability if you are feeling a certain way, with billions of other humans out there, there are bound to be like-minded people.

There's a concerning lack of Pastafarians in this thread

Discordianism is pretty funny too. Or Equestrianism, if thats a word lol.

Ah yes. That's exactly what I do. Or one of the things.

 

I prefer to throw logic and reason to the wind. Too restricting. I use them when it's called for but otherwise they are just another source of information.

 

And if it wasn't obvious I'm not exactly trying to convince other people to think like I do. I follow what my own thoughts and reasoning tell me, even if it means 1+1=fish makes more sense than the original equation.

 

Don't get me wrong though. I'm just as likely to believe there is no god and that it's not possible because, as the original post said, it's not proven through science. I believe both sides equally.

Hmm sort of a quantum physics approach to it? Like Schrodinger's god(s) (or lack thereof, or similar to(etc)) instead of a cat?

[Envy 6,159]

Isn't everyone an atheist? Especially on the internet?

 

Of course. I mean it's not like there's a 148 page topic for Christians right here on the first page that remains fairly active or anything.

Edited January 12, 2017 by Envy

[Derplight Sperkle 1,013]

I'm an atheist. I have admitted it to my family, but they aren't terribly religious in the first place. Also feel like that they kinda know already...

[CosmicHooves 2,705]

Agnostic atheist, but I prefer the term agnostic to describe myself.
 

Personally I think atheism is the easy way out though

What kind of atheism?
Gnostic or agnostic atheism?
Cause there's a huge difference between claiming that god doesn't exists and failing to believe in his existence.

God, almost by definition, defies the science of man.

Yes, isn't that convenient how god somehow defies the scientific method by not being observable?
Not to come off as snarky, but I've heard this plenty of times before and it still doesn't make sense to me.
The science of man is just science.
And science is based on the observation of the natural universe.
If god is outside the natural universe then that would mean he's unnatural.
And unnatural is another way of saying something doesn't exist.

Edited January 14, 2017 by Blue Snow

[Discordian 6,015]

Agnostic atheist, but I prefer the term agnostic to describe myself.

 

What kind of atheism?

Gnostic or agnostic atheism?

Cause there's a huge difference between claiming that god doesn't exists and failing to believe in his existence. Yes, isn't that convenient how god somehow defies the scientific method by not being observable?

Not to come off as snarky, but I've heard this plenty of times before and it still doesn't make sense to me.

The science of man is just science.

And science is the based on the observation of the natural world.

If god is outside the natural universe then that would mean he's unnatural.

And unnatural is another way of saying something doesn't exist.

Whatever form of atheism leads to "I can't see him so he obviously doesn't exist and that's as far as I need to think about it". Any thought process that puts you in a position where you "don't have to" think about it more is a limiting one.

[CosmicHooves 2,705]

Whatever form of atheism leads to "I can't see him so he obviously doesn't exist and that's as far as I need to think about it".

The agnostic atheist position is to see no solid reason to believe in a god.

It's looking at the natural universe and failing to believe in the claim that there is a god.

Only a gnostic atheist would make the claim that there is no god.

Gnosticism is what is limiting because it makes claims about things that can't be possibly or aren't yet known to science.

To say that their is god is just as limiting as saying there isn't one.

I don't make claims, I'm an agnostic.

Edited January 14, 2017 by Blue Snow

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

Yes I'm an atheist.... A skeptic through and through.

[Zyrael 1,471]

Most of us are atheists at this point. The fact there is still religion at all is surprising

[Sceethe 704]

i am more of a pastafarian myself

[Vitaj 45]

ok, looks like I triggered something i didnt want to trigger so just forget i typed anything

Edited February 15, 2017 by Vitaj

[S.F. 1,560]

Oh noooo, atheists must live such unhappy and unhopeful lives in my opinion 

What makes you say that? I used to be Christian (was brought up a methodist), and I'd say I've been happier in myself since giving up the church. Also, without the existence of God to explain everything, the universe has become a much more wondrous place imo.

[Kaneki 1,073]

I'm just really not sure. I've grown up Christian, but I never really go to church anymore, nor do I read my Bible too much. I've also been around so much culture that tends to side around atheism and agnosticism, that I'm starting to develop certain ideas that most of my Christian friends don't have, I don't know if I'm still a "Christian" or should side more this way. I guess you could say I'm religion/belief "questioning", if that's a good term.

 

But, even if I still am a Christian, I won't judge you for being atheist. It makes me curious though.

[Envy 6,159]

Oh noooo, atheists must live such unhappy and unhopeful lives in my opinion 

 

I don't know where you get this idea that atheists' lives are 'unhappy'. And... Lets be blunt here, saying "in my opinion" doesn't help you here. Whether or not we are happy and have hope is not something that can even begin to be your opinion.

 

Personally, I think I'd be constantly disturbed if I actually had to think about there being a loving (supposedly), intervening God that lets tornadoes rip through schools, killing tons of children, while the survivors sit around praising God for saving their butts (apparently at the expense of the childrens' lifes)

 

It makes so much more sense and is much more easing to my mind that tornadoes are just natural occurrences that are not and can not be controlled by any being.

Edited February 15, 2017 by Envy

[S.F. 1,560]

I'm just really not sure. I've grown up Christian, but I never really go to church anymore, nor do I read my Bible too much. I've also been around so much culture that tends to side around atheism and agnosticism, that I'm starting to develop certain ideas that most of my Christian friends don't have, I don't know if I'm still a "Christian" or should side more this way. I guess you could say I'm religion/belief "questioning", if that's a good term.

 

But, even if I still am a Christian, I won't judge you for being atheist. It makes me curious though.

For what it's worth, that's how I lost my faith - I started questioning it, and either found no answers, or answers that weren't satisfactory. It seems that many people think that you lose your faith in a 'eureka' moment, where it suddenly happens in an instant, but for me it was a gradual realisation. I'd say that the last year or so I still identified as a Christian, I was actually more an atheist - but either didn't realise it yet, or didn't want to admit it.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push you in one way or another, nor influence you in any way - just sharing my experience, that sounds like it was similar to how you are currently feeling - I just thought it may help bring some clarity, of course I could be completely wrong too (I'm not you after all' so it could be different).

[They call me Loyalty 1,948]

The notion of rationalizing consciousness under subjective identifications, is inconsequential.

Something learned from the mistakes of my ancestry, after subsequent iterations of my being, across multiple life times.

An obsession with self-identification has caused great harm and division to the unconditional substance of life.

Ultimately, each individual has the choice to experience itself in any way it sees fit.

Edited February 15, 2017 by They call me Loyalty

[Olsen1987 133]

that's a weird question indeed, i'm usually not surprised, but if you really was the only one, it would be more surprising than all b-day gifts over the years combined.

 

and to answer your question: yup, i sure am.

gods can't be real if we're talking in the sense of deities, especially if they're seeing as how they're described in these "holy" texts, so much contradictions it doesn't make sense at all.
not proven: well it can't be proven, because it's just not possible, gods are supposed to be all powerful, but even the so-called "most" powerful of them all isn't really powerful at all.

[SONICchaos 824]

I'm an atheist. I have admitted it to my family, but they aren't terribly religious in the first place. Also feel like that they kinda know already...

Thats acctaully an interesting thought. I never thought of "admitting" to it since it didnt feel like something that needed to be shared. I can understand others feeling the need to express their lifestyles to loved ones for support but I guess it seemed like something so personal and benign that I didnt need acceptance for it. And im TERRIBLE with guilt, i'll confess to anything im nervous about others accepting me. Guess it just never made me concerned with how others see me.

 

In any case glad they seemed to accept your position.

Edited February 15, 2017 by SONICchaos

[Derplight Sperkle 1,013]

Thats acctaully an interesting thought. I never thought of "admitting" to it since it didnt feel like something that needed to be shared. I can understand others feeling the need to express their lifestyles to loved ones for support but I guess it seemed like something so personal and benign that I didnt need acceptance for it. And im TERRIBLE with guilt, i'll confess to anything im nervous about others accepting me. Guess it just never made me concerned with how others see me.

 

In any case glad they seemed to accept your position.

 

I've heard a lot of horror stories of young people being shunned or kicked out of the house for admitting their atheist views. I know it comes mostly from the Bible Belt but I don't want to test it out.

 

I'm almost sure that nothing will come of it. Living in the New England area is pretty non-religious so it won't be bad.

[Envy 6,159]

Thats acctaully an interesting thought. I never thought of "admitting" to it since it didnt feel like something that needed to be shared. I can understand others feeling the need to express their lifestyles to loved ones for support but I guess it seemed like something so personal and benign that I didnt need acceptance for it. And im TERRIBLE with guilt, i'll confess to anything im nervous about others accepting me. Guess it just never made me concerned with how others see me.

 

In any case glad they seemed to accept your position.

 

I think, in general, it's important for people to be out about being atheist. We are an untrusted minority. Visibility is important, so people who have been told lies about us can then begin to see that we aren't monsters, but instead just normal people who can most definitely have a strong sense of morality and the motivation to do good for other people.

 

Without anyone standing up to show that, the false demonizations of us will remain prevalent in the majority's minds.

 

With that said, no one should be forced to be out with it. Obviously there are situations where it is simply not wise. I'm not out in real life mostly for the sake of my family. Truth be told they likely would not disown me, but they'd be forever worried for what they believe would be the fate of my soul. I can't do that to them. So I remain silent about it to most people IRL. I'm scared to even be a member of the SSA at my university, and show up to the meetings. I still do, because they're understanding and won't reveal it.

[SONICchaos 824]

I've heard a lot of horror stories of young people being shunned or kicked out of the house for admitting their atheist views. I know it comes mostly from the Bible Belt but I don't want to test it out.

 

I'm almost sure that nothing will come of it. Living in the New England area is pretty non-religious so it won't be bad.

 

I think, in general, it's important for people to be out about being atheist. We are an untrusted minority. Visibility is important, so people who have been told lies about us can then begin to see that we aren't monsters, but instead just normal people who can most definitely have a strong sense of morality and the motivation to do good for other people.

I suppose depending on your background, community and parents then yes coming out with your non-religious beliefs could be seen as heretic and cause you to be shunned or distrusted. With my background family and community it was never a secret or something to be ashamed of being afraid of others judgements. But thats really because no one in my family nor community cared . We have a lot of religious people in the city and area but its never really talked about. Not that it seems like people are hiding it but just that no one in my community seems concerned with others beliefs. Its not even really a liberal area, just people tend to keep to themselves and really dont bother meeting neighbors more than 2 houses down. So for me I never felt I would be judged for it and I guess I just assumed it was fairly similar for others but you bring up good points.

 

I do admit I am interested in others religious beliefs and why they believe but its not really in my personality to judge them. Its more of a socio-psychological curiosity in finding what brought upon this "belief". I try and be unbiased and unoffensive with the questions I ask as well. But I learned a long time ago why religion tends to be a "no-no" topic to talk with closed minded people. It comes down to neither side willing to concede or even bother thinking from other perspectives. Basically you cant convince someone to change their mind on things when thats what they believed all their lives. "Proof" might as well not exist as neither side typically accepts it as true or enough to change opinions. I just tend to find convincing others on the subject to be futile if they arnt willing to change their opinions. I mean who would if their ultimate fate counts on it.

 

I agree tho that if misconceptions of atheism could at least be cleared up for the people around you then that sounds like a much more achievable goal. Less judgement and criticism of others is all I ask for in the world.

[Sovereign Leader Rarity 12,006]

Yeah, I'm a big time athiest and am strongly against letting decisions override my ideas.

There just isn't any real evidence to support the existence of god, nor does religion translate well in to our modern society. I just like to think for myself and have my own ideas and opinions rather than conform to fit into some sort of religion.

[Azatrot 66]

I'm an agnostic atheist because, as has been said in this thread, it's the null hypothesis. That also means that I am open to changing my view if evidence is presented for the existence of a god, but so far I haven't seen any valid evidence that doesn't violate Occam's Razor.