searching Mechquestria: System Reboot

[Denim&Venöm 18,785]

Actually that would be lovely, then throw mentions at everyone who ever joined that we'll be moving to a sequel shortly if they'd like to join that. Maybe make an epilogue after that post too, before we move to that.

 

That's my thoughts. What do you think Mentis?

Alright. Maybe I can run the synopsis by you, see which parts I can cut out? Kinda had the ending fight structured in parts. 

[Denim&Venöm 18,785]

@@captainborgue,

 

So Bronislav and I are working to wrap the current Mechquestria up so we can move onto the more SOL sequel. The trouble is figuring out how to proceed w/ Luster after she's beaten, and how that will tie into your and Rand's idea for Project Luminous.

 

 

The idea is for Luster to be transferred to an organic body as penance. Can the project be adjusted for that?

 

[Mentis Soliloquy 3,025]

Hey I'm just cool if we can get back into this, I'm a laid back fella.

[Techno Universal 2,575]

Techno Universal would be most likely the creator of this future timeline. He is still the leader of the future city today.

Fact: magic in equestria is scientifically known as (Universal Energy).

Link: https://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/techno-universal-r9672

Edited September 2, 2016 by Techno Universal

[Denim&Venöm 18,785]

@@Techno Universal,

 

I'm gonna have to say no to that. We've already established that future Equestria is ruled by Robo-Twilight and that advancements in technology were done via application of magic to human science. Plus I'm not sure how he'd fit into the more SOL direction we'll be heading in with the sequel we're doing. But if you have any characters that would fit into or around a futuristic college setting you're welcome to apply once this RP is finished up."

[Techno Universal 2,575]

@@Techno Universal,

 

I'm gonna have to say no to that. We've already established that future Equestria is ruled by Robo-Twilight and that advancements in technology were done via application of magic to human science. Plus I'm not sure how he'd fit into the more SOL direction we'll be heading in with the sequel we're doing. But if you have any characters that would fit into or around a futuristic college setting you're welcome to apply once this RP is finished up."

he infact did buld up equestria into "future equestria" to try and protect the ponies from Herobrien as he was soon going to attack equestria. Techno Universal also already built a future city on another world where ponies and humans live together.

(It's a future storyline of my oc. That's why it's not in my characters backstory. But it may be updated in the future.)

[Denim&Venöm 18,785]

@@Techno Universal, 

Dude. Why did you post to the RP? I already told you your character was not approved. 

[Denim&Venöm 18,785]

I reported him this morning and he posted again. Just report, the mods will handle it and dole out appropriate punishment.

When is that epic fight conclusion coming anyway?

When I've got the ample time for it. I've worked 38 hours in the past 4 days. 

[Mentis Soliloquy 3,025]

Miss Trees just finished my commission related to stuff we RPed out back in March: http://lostinthetrees.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Little-Lektra-635466146I feel that this is a on topic

Hehe Letkra looks like a minny tank thats funny.

[Randimaxis 8,652]

*poke, poke*

... hello?

[Denim&Venöm 18,785]

On 9/14/2017 at 1:02 PM, Randimaxis said:

*poke, poke*

... hello?

*pokes back*

Hello. 

[Techno Universal 2,575]

Well to be honest if you decide to reboot the RP in the future I maybe could find a way to bring Techno into it! Like let's just say I was a noobish idiot a year ago because I had never RPd before in my life but I'm really a really good RPer now. Plus there have been quite a few changes done to Techno's character over time like he often wants to stay down to earth with his power as he just doesn't enjoy being too OP! Anyways his backstory and character are highly modular now so changes can be made to him so he fits into the RP!

[Techno Universal 2,575]

8 minutes ago, Lektra Bolt said:

Tech I'll be honest here. There is zero way you can join this, and I am sure both GMs agree. Regardless of how much YOU as a RPer have improved, it's just not possible and your character is fundamentally flawed. I personally have zero bad stuff to say about you as a person and please don't take this the wrong was as a personal attack.

Your character is definitely OP. In fact there's OP, and then there's your character. As in your character is so OP that 99% of OP characters, many many of which are Alicorns too, would be afraid of him if he was in the same setting as them. There is absolutely nothing fun about a character who exists that can with one eye wink erase anyone from existence. Not that I am saying he would, because he seems like a nice pony and you have a good personality there, but just because HE CAN without ANY restraint. And so can his archenemy. He has power over all of existence. There is no need for anyone to do anything or go on any quests, because Techno can just wave a hoof and instantaneously change the status of reality to fix the problem.

And please don't say oh just cause he won't the RP can still be fun. Why have a power and not use it? You are basically saying 'I want everyone else to have fun so I won't flex my muscles, but I can at any time do this and there is no danger'. Everything is pointless when he's around. Conversely, if he doesn't use his power there is no need to have it, so of course he can and should use it. Anything that exists, including good guys AND bad guys are worthless when your character can alter the fabric of the universe and all of existence without any overhead. He is above everything. At least Q had a council of other Qs who control each other and monitor unfair use of their powers. Discord is not all powerful either and has limits, and Techno can wipe him from existence as well. There you go, an example of how OP your character is, that the most OP canon character would be afraid of him.

On the other hoof he just does not fit into the Mequestria setting. If he created this setting, he can create it in another copy of this universe at any time and change it as he likes. He doesn't need anyone else and everyone else doesn't need him. We don't need to RP with him because he can already solve any problem posed to him by changing the universal fabric in whatever way is convenient too him. There's no need to have anyone do anything because everything ever conceived has already been resolved or can be resolved at any time as soon as he notices existence has a problem. He can just retroactively correct any problem in the Matrix, because according to him everything is a program and all he needs to do is change the code to remove the bug. Anything can be removed and fixed. Literally anything without restraint.

And besides he conflicts with everything we established. That the current setting was created as a result of humans, ponies, and the melding of magic with technology. Pretend he is allowed into this RP for a moment. If he was involved in the creation of future Equestria, because obviously he was involved in the creation of all of existence since the beginning of time, nobody else has any importance. He just conflicts with everything, at all times, from the beginning to end.

What I am saying is our GMs would have to be crazy too allow this in, and anyone else just doesn't realize or doesn't read when they allow Techno into an RP. I'm very sorry Tech but I personally cannot RP with a character of this level of OP.

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this. Please understand I have nothing against you as a person and I am trying to explain how fundamentally flawed your character is. Thank you for reading, if you even get this far.

Yeah but still you may be surprised of how I came up with this easy fix that would make him fit really well into the RP by what I know about the standards! Anyways in this RP I was thinking that Techno was not really a creator himself but he was an experimental creation that was released into the world from a top secret robotics lab. So he ended up doing research in his own lab of the technology he was built with so he was trying to develop his own self be aware robotic ponies but still Techno would have no idea of who created him and why he was created. So really with his power he would have no idea of his full capabilities or he would just simply not have them. Though he would be doing work on himself in his lab so he would be working on ways to give him new abilities.    

[Randimaxis 8,652]

@Techno Universal, may I ask a few questions?

 

First, in the version of the story you've given us here... where do the other characters come in?  What will be THEIR focus?  If the only answer you have is something related to YOU, then it's a bit much to suggest such a thing.  Folks are here to write their OWN stories as they unfurl, and develop their characters in different, unique ways.  A story that would center on you wouldn't leave anyone else room to do very much, would it?

Ask yourself THIS question:  If someone else was Techno, and YOU were another OC... how entertaining would it sound to YOU if someone suggested you play in the scenario you gave?

Second, the power levels are TOO HIGH for this OC to ever have to deal with REAL hardship and problems - such a character would, as Lek already stated, leave the rest of the players without a thing to do in their presence.  Which is NOT fun for anyone else, I can tell you from experience.

Third, I wonder if you'd try something, if you might?

Maybe, if you're wanting to show folks how you play an alicorn, then YOU could start an RP, right?  I mean, NOBODY was willing to let ANYONE play Discord in any EqE stories - and yet, once I showed them what I could do in an EvE RP with Ol' Discy, they not only considered my application... they APPROVED it!  The ONLY reason they saw fit to do so is because I was VERY generous and even-handed when I did.

Show people you can play the role properly, and they'll be FAR more willing to work with you in future RPs.

 

For the record?  You're pretty nifty to have come up with this OC - I'll bet you could prove to folks how an alicorn can be properly done.  

[Techno Universal 2,575]

14 minutes ago, Lektra Bolt said:

Sure. Remove his power over the fabric of all existence ever, and maybe he would be an okay fit for this RP. I don't think it's a good idea for him to be an AI from an earlier era though. We already have Luster and she has been a handful for many pages of fun RP. We can't really have another older style AI trying to find it's reason for existence.

If you are ok being from this era and created by modern technology and magic, you could probably be created by Lektra's Bolt Solutions or one of the NPC EqTech companies. Then we wouldn't need to worry about issues like has been going on with Luster and you wouldn't be grabbing focus from that central story. I'm sure Denim wouldn't appreciate his thunder being stolen.

Yeah still we could maybe have Techno's intentions at just further developing on his own technology so Techno just wouldn't be interested in his past. Plus Techno would probably be a part of a top secret AI project that involved trying to develop and create a self aware machine that had a universal personality so it would be basically a personality that was 50/50 in every single character trait that existed. Plus scientists would be saying that it would be just physically impossible to create such an AI personality because it would be against the laws of physics in a way. But still this top secret project was trying to prove that it was possible to create such a personality so they created Techno. Plus also through the RP Techno's original creators would probably be secretary monitoring everything in Techno's system so they can see exactly how things are working and for evidence that it's possible to create a universal personality.

 

@Randimaxis

So yes the thing with Techno is that he's designed in a way where you can be extremely generous with his backstory, power and abilities without actually losing any vital character traits that make Techno himself! So he's basically like en extremely modular and flexible character in a way plus he's also 100% based off myself in real life so I would basically end up being Techno if I ended up getting ported to equestria!

Edited September 25, 2017 by Techno Universal

[Techno Universal 2,575]

11 minutes ago, Lektra Bolt said:

This still puts too much focus on your character, as Rand said. You would be taking the focus away from Luster and ALL other characters. You would be replacing Luster's importance in the story entirely. A project like that would in no way stay secret. If you truly want to join and be able to contribute in a positive manner, the best thing to do is make a completely new character that fits into the setting as described without pulling ALL focus on itself. Not to mention you are still saying he is a God created by Gods who are immortal, and just doesn't realize it.

Or I dunno, run your own RP and be GM with your character story as the plot

Or maybe we could still keep Luster's importance there by simply having her doing system and program development to Techno as the RP goes on. Plus she might even release the potential Techno has so she starts secretary using him for her own Technology development. So really Luster would be stealing all of Techno's credit and projects without Techo even been able to realise it because of a few program nodes Luster put in Techno's system to prevent him from thinking that someone is somehow copping his technology.

[Techno Universal 2,575]

5 minutes ago, Lektra Bolt said:

That's not really what she does though, nor is there any reason for her to do that. Items such as you describe would not be viable in this RP to begin with. Doing things in secret alone also contributes nothing to the overall story. You would have nobody to play with. Tech you need to understand that such a godly character as yours, even one without the ability to alter all of existence at will, is not ok. Please understand I am trying to help you out.

You might have an easier time running your own story if you actually run your own game, unrestrained by the setting of another GM who wants things their way because it is their RP and their story to run, with players who want too play their story as they envisioned it. Our GMs want things this way, and if you really would like to be accepted you need to play the game as as they have it set it up. Since your regular character doesn't fit, your best idea to play here is to make a character that fits in the setting.

Well really maybe it just comes down to my personality just not been compatible with this RP. Like it's really impossible for me to create and play another OC I've noticed that I just can't take playing in an RP as a character that's not Techno but the only exception to this is if I'm playing multiple characters in an RP like I'm also playing cannon characters in a 1X1 RP on top of Techno. So basically any RP that I'm not playing as Techno in would just be impossibly boring and incompatible for me. Plus because of how diverse and large Techno's character is it's really almost impossible to create a proper RP plot for me like I tried starting an RP once but nobody really wanted to join it because I couldn't come up with a direct enough plot. It's just I work a lot better at following existing storylines and running with them and not creating my own.  

[Techno Universal 2,575]

14 minutes ago, Lektra Bolt said:

I think you are starting to understand just how hard it is to RP with a character like this? He is not compatible with a whole heap of RPs, not just this one. It's not your personality, just your character. I'm sure you're a fine person, and I can relate to not wanting to play anyone else except if Lektra is also in the story.

Diverse and large is exactly the problem here. Your character happens to be TOO diverse and large for I would wager about 90% of RPs. The God of all Gods can only be with his own kind, and lowly specks of meager existence such as ourselves have no reason to encroach on his presence. Yes in fact, it's lonely at the top. You will have to decide whether it's worth having your character so lonely, or being more compatible with RPs that people would like to run.

Run or join, actually. Your character is just very hard to RP with, as outlined in my original reply. If this God can fix any problem in existence, what does he need me for? Just because he's lonely and wants to entertain himself with with the daily lives of mortals try to fix their own problems while trying not to just wave an eyebrow to fix them, because he can? Why should a meager speck of nothing that will only exist for an infinitesimal fraction of the lifespan of the infinite universe he created even be in the presence of such a God? Like can you yourself come up with a reason that doesn't involve you coming to visit me specifically because you're bored of your infinite existence?

Well really the thing with Techno's character is that he develops himself over time from the behaviour and problems of others. Plus if he was actually the creator he would know that his creations won't survive for long without his existence because of evil related threats that are in existence. Though in real life like you mentioned I've been quite lonely at the top until I found and got into a real life relationship with another user on the fourms. She was almost exactly the same as me mentally plus she's always been waiting to come across someone like her who's a good mentor and strong person as she's very vulnerable on her own as a person. Anyways I have found some really creative ways in RPs to make Techno fit in and actually be fun to play as plus believe it or not even though Techno is a character that would seem to be impossible to play as it's literally the character I have to play as primarily in an RP otherwise I just won't work out well in the RP.

[Randimaxis 8,652]

@Techno Universal, the choice is ultimately up to Denim&Venom, as this game is their brainchild.

As the Roleplay Team Lead, I will ask that you wait for their response - and when it comes, give it the proper respect that's due, regardless of the outcome.

Thank you for your time.  *bows*

[Techno Universal 2,575]

1 minute ago, Randimaxis said:

@Techno Universal, the choice is ultimately up to Denim&Venom, as this game is their brainchild.

As the Roleplay Team Lead, I will ask that you wait for their response - and when it comes, give it the proper respect that's due, regardless of the outcome.

Thank you for your time.  *bows*

Yeah I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Denim&Venom thinks of Techno!

[Techno Universal 2,575]

1 minute ago, Lektra Bolt said:

Yes, they won't survive without the almighty creator because life always has problems, so he will come wave a hoof and fix it so they can survive. Do you see what I am saying? He will visit, but for a bit. He doesn't need to join their quest or do anything else, because he can just alter the program to fix it. That is your character, and he doesn't need to ever interact with mortals. It is lonely at the top, and makes it boring to RP with him. I am happy you have found someone to RP with and you like each other but that doesn't change the fact that you have to choose between fitting into RPs or being lonely.

If you are really serious about this and think you can find a creative way to fit this God of Gods into this RP, by all means post it and show our GMs and please follow as Rand said. As I said I am sure they would be willing to accommodate a version of him that fits into the rules and setting as they established it, without taking over the story or making everyone have zero importance.

Well there is this little backstory scheme I've been using with Techno in other RPs that have actually made things really fun! So it's really when Techno gets board and decides to get down to earth for a while and go on a fun adventure with others but often Techno would get himself into a dangerous situation where his powers somehow get blocked or his system is tampered with by the threat. Anyways I thought I might as well mention that as that shows that Techno can not only be extremely wise and intelligent but he can also be a complete idiot at the same time and it also shows how Techno can be a fun and interactive character!  

[Techno Universal 2,575]

Just now, Lektra Bolt said:

If people have to come up with ways to tamper with a God, you are surely taking focus way from the real story at that point. And you promised to wait for the GMs. Please let's do that?

Well maybe we should just stop spamming this OOC with our conversation for now until the GM comes back!

[Mentis Soliloquy 3,025]

@Randimaxis @Denim&Venom

I was going to post... but I am afraid to say I'm a bit lost and I can't see what Em can even do or say honestly at the moment. 

[Randimaxis 8,652]

You can have Em thinking about all that's been said, and how she feels about the whole Pony/human argument. 

Take a look at one of @Lektra Bolt's posts; where she goes through a *chuckle* soliloquy about her opinions... but says little in comparison. 

Think about what Em's feelings are about Luster or Twilight or even Twitch, or perhaps just grumble about how much work it's going to be to get things under control if Luster succeeds. 

Give it a think for a tic, see what crops up. 

[Denim&Venöm 18,785]

3 hours ago, Mentis Soliloquy said:

@Randimaxis @Denim&Venom

I was going to post... but I am afraid to say I'm a bit lost and I can't see what Em can even do or say honestly at the moment. 

 

3 hours ago, Randimaxis said:

You can have Em thinking about all that's been said, and how she feels about the whole Pony/human argument. 

Take a look at one of @Lektra Bolt's posts; where she goes through a *chuckle* soliloquy about her opinions... but says little in comparison. 

Think about what Em's feelings are about Luster or Twilight or even Twitch, or perhaps just grumble about how much work it's going to be to get things under control if Luster succeeds. 

Give it a think for a tic, see what crops up. 

 

2 hours ago, Lektra Bolt said:

I actually forgot I wrote that section, it was a while ago. It was good wasn't it? I feel like I need to reread it though. Which post are you talking about Rand?

I also should do another round on what's been going on. I have been keeping up, of course

Well in summary, Twi and Luster's bout has been stopped by twitch and has now become a battle of ideology. Grant and Twi being the bastions for optimism and hope. Luster providing counter arguments involving human nature, psychology, repeated history, statistical probability and Twi being a hypocrite. Specifically, coming to the same conclusions Luster did, opposing her anyways, and now using Emerald to recruit students against the coming threat. That classified mission form the start of the RP.