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http://www.avclub.com/article/nickelodeon-actually-making-avengers-style-nicktoo-231381

 

So, apparently there will be a Avengers style crossover movie starting various characters from Nicktoons of the 90s. It will be directed by Napoleon Dynamite's Jared Hess.

 

My response: What? I'm seriously trying to imagine how this concept can work. This idea can easily get into bad fanfiction level of writing if they do not know what they're doing. It's kind of hard to imagine a lot of the characters from the shows confirmed to appear interacting with each other since a lot of the Nicktoons at the time were vastly. I mean, it could work in a Who Framed Roger Rabbit kind of way but who knows?

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Why couldn't Disney do this? Darkwing Duck could end up stranded back in time. (He has time traveled before. H.U.S.H. has a time machine) He'll hire Baloo since Launchpad wrecked the Thunderquack, and the Seaduck could slip a dimensional crack and land them in a human world. Kim Possible would then rescue them all from Dr. Drakken, with the help of the Rescue Rangers! Back in Duckburg, Gyro Gearloose, funded by Scrooge McDuck would be working feverishly on a machine to set everything back the way it should be. Hewie Dewie and Louie volunteer  to be sent across the gap to lead everyone back home. When it's all over, we see it's a book report based on a science fiction novel. Goofy is helping his son Max write it for school. The Gummi bears are just a candy, because I never liked that show.   

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I've heard about this before a while back, but I thought it was confirmed to be false.

The same goes for rumors about an As Told By Ginger reboot.

So until the company itself officially announces it or there is enough evidence form it for me to believe this is happening, I am just going to not think it is real.

 

But if it is real, I think a Roger Rabbit-esque story could work well for the movie.


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I can only see this working if they choose the right Nicktoons, because I can't see Hey Arnold, Angry Beavers, Rugrats, and Ren and Stimpy meshing well with each other.

 

On the other hand, this may be the only chance I ever get to see Tito on the big screen, so for I hope to God they include him in some way. They don't even need to include Rocket Power, I just want mother fucking Tito

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Turns out this is fake. Joe Murray says he was assured by a Nick exec that it's not happening. He adds that Jared Hess pitched it to Paramount, but he got rejected. For some reason, he still put out press releases.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205441305932833&set=gm.628545523961952&type=3&theater

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Oh Hell yes! I thought this was just being suggested, it's actually happening?!  :pinkie:


Turns out this is fake. Joe Murray says he was assured by a Nick exec that it's not happening. He adds that Jared Hess pitched it to Paramount, but he got rejected. For some reason, he still put out press releases.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205441305932833&set=gm.628545523961952&type=3&theater

 

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Awwww just when I got my hopes up.


 

 

This idea can easily get into bad fanfiction level of writing if they do not know what they're doing.

 

Well first of all, I don't like how "fanfiction" is commonly used as short hand for bad, because many fan fics are actually quite good. Sturgeon's Law, the remaining 10% more than make up for the terrible 90%

 

Secondly, Nick already did something like this with the original Nicktoons Unite. That had Jimmy Neutron gather Spongebob, Timmy (who's previous crossover was treated as canon in the game), and Danny to fight "the Syndicate" formed of their respective villains. While the graphical limitations didn't permit the same hectic energy of their source material, the logic of the crossover still made sense with each of their worlds playing a part in the ultimate scheme of things.

 

All of the sequels sucked, which is a shame as they expanded the cast of heroes, but ironically the scale and life of it just diminished as the titles went on.

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Good to see it won't happen anytime soon as I feel that the window of opportunity to do such a film is far too late and as others have said, many nick toons like The slice of life nick toons like the cast of Hey Arnold and As told by Ginger won't mesh well with more action oriented cartoons like Invader Zim and Danny Phantom's cast.

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Secondly, Nick already did something like this with the original Nicktoons Unite. That had Jimmy Neutron gather Spongebob, Timmy (who's previous crossover was treated as canon in the game), and Danny to fight "the Syndicate" formed of their respective villains. While the graphical limitations didn't permit the same hectic energy of their source material, the logic of the crossover still made sense with each of their worlds playing a part in the ultimate scheme of things.

 

All of the sequels sucked, which is a shame as they expanded the cast of heroes, but ironically the scale and life of it just diminished as the titles went on.

I'd actually argue that attack of the Toybots was the best of the series, greatly expanding on the amount of Nicktoons appearing(including Stimpy, Rocko, Gir, and Jenny(and unfortunately the only video game she appears in) with the DS version using even more) and focusing more on platforming than being an X-Men Legends knockoff. It's not really saying much because I didn't think the series was any good, but I still felt it was a notable improvement and actually found myself enjoying it.

 

On a random minor tangent, I always thought seeing Vlad Plasmius teaming up with Crocker, Calamitus(Sp?) and Plankton looked really dumb. I'd be like if Hasbro had Megatron teaming up with the Biskitt Twins and the Dazzlings. Him teaming up with Queen Vexus or Firelord Ozai would've made more sense

 

 

 

Good to see it won't happen anytime soon as I feel that the window of opportunity to do such a film is far too late and as others have said, many nick toons like The slice of life nick toons like the cast of Hey Arnold and As told by Ginger won't mesh well with more action oriented cartoons like Invader Zim and Danny Phantom's cast.
 

 

They could always do what they did with Rugrats Go Wild and choose the cartoons that could mesh well with each other. I know the movie wasn't exactly good but at least it was still within the realm of believability 

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Not only would this idea be incredibly awkward to piece together, I am not sure if I like the overall concept of bringing these nicktoons back. While the nostalgia would be immense, they may not be the same as we knew them before. Time is a cruel thing and can change things about how characters are done, for whatever reason, though other reboots have done well before so who knows. Since it is not happening anyways, all we can do is wonder in this regard.

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I'd actually argue that attack of the Toybots was the best of the series, greatly expanding on the amount of Nicktoons appearing(including Stimpy, Rocko, Gir, and Jenny(and unfortunately the only video game she appears in) with the DS version using even more) and focusing more on platforming than being an X-Men Legends knockoff. It's not really saying much because I didn't think the series was any good, but I still felt it was a notable improvement and actually found myself enjoying it.

 

On a random minor tangent, I always thought seeing Vlad Plasmius teaming up with Crocker, Calamitus(Sp?) and Plankton looked really dumb. I'd be like if Hasbro had Megatron teaming up with the Biskitt Twins and the Dazzlings. Him teaming up with Queen Vexus or Firelord Ozai would've made more sense

 

 

 

 

They could always do what they did with Rugrats Go Wild and choose the cartoons that could mesh well with each other. I know the movie wasn't exactly good but at least it was still within the realm of believability

 

Aye, but another issue is relevancy as well. It would work with longer lasting cartoons and appeal like Zim, XJ9, SpongeBob, and Aang. The issue than further stems if you want to involve cast members that aren't so popular anymore and of course finding a script that can make it work somehow or the movie a severe backlash from multiple fan bases to put it mildly. That's also not counting how time may have aged the original va's enough that it would be problematic or circumstances demanding new va's to replace them. Edited by Nuke87654
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I'd actually argue that attack of the Toybots was the best of the series, greatly expanding on the amount of Nicktoons appearing(including Stimpy, Rocko, Gir, and Jenny(and unfortunately the only video game she appears in) with the DS version using even more) and focusing more on platforming than being an X-Men Legends knockoff. It's not really saying much because I didn't think the series was any good, but I still felt it was a notable improvement and actually found myself enjoying it.

 

On a random minor tangent, I always thought seeing Vlad Plasmius teaming up with Crocker, Calamitus(Sp?) and Plankton looked really dumb. I'd be like if Hasbro had Megatron teaming up with the Biskitt Twins and the Dazzlings. Him teaming up with Queen Vexus or Firelord Ozai would've made more sense

 

Well the thing is, I wasn't referring to gameplay as much as story and making involved protagonists actually feel relevant. In the original, we go to each of their worlds and each hero gets a time to shine. In Attack of the Toybots who you are playing as is largely incidental and irrelevant to the proceeding action, the environments are largely the same, and the only major villain is Calamitous. As I said, by trying to throw in everything, they actually made the stakes feel lower not higher.

 

On that note, kick ass as it would have been neither Vexus nor Ozai existed when Nicktoons Unite came out. Not to say I don't agree with you and I could use a more action oriented version of the concept with Danny, Jenny, Tak, El Tigre, or either Aang or Korra.

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Oh Hell yes! I thought this was just being suggested, it's actually happening?! :pinkie:

 

 

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Awwww just when I got my hopes up.

 

 

Well first of all, I don't like how "fanfiction" is commonly used as short hand for bad, because many fan fics are actually quite good. Sturgeon's Law, the remaining 10% more than make up for the terrible 90%

 

Secondly, Nick already did something like this with the original Nicktoons Unite. That had Jimmy Neutron gather Spongebob, Timmy (who's previous crossover was treated as canon in the game), and Danny to fight "the Syndicate" formed of their respective villains. While the graphical limitations didn't permit the same hectic energy of their source material, the logic of the crossover still made sense with each of their worlds playing a part in the ultimate scheme of things.

 

All of the sequels sucked, which is a shame as they expanded the cast of heroes, but ironically the scale and life of it just diminished as the titles went on.

I know not all fanfiction is bad I have enjoyed several fanfics. Heck, I write fanfiction. I was just referring to the bad kind of fanfiction where the writer doesn't understand the characters or world at all. Something similar to Double Rainboom.

 

Admtivevly, I've only played 3 of those Nicktoons games and only 2 of them I got far in. They were okay I guess. I can't really say much about Nicktoons Unite since I only ever got to the second world. But yeah, I can see how an idea like this (unfortunatly now confirmed to not be happening) can work.

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Not only would this idea be incredibly awkward to piece together, I am not sure if I like the overall concept of bringing these nicktoons back. While the nostalgia would be immense, they may not be the same as we knew them before. Time is a cruel thing and can change things about how characters are done, for whatever reason, though other reboots have done well before so who knows. Since it is not happening anyways, all we can do is wonder in this regard.

 

Just speaking as a writer and one who did grow up with these properties, yes, cartoon writing has indeed improved from the nineties. Shows like Rugrats, the Angry Beavers, etc. got nothing on Gravity Falls, Steven Uiniverse, or Hell even FiM. Here's the thing though, some shows were indeed ahead of their time. Hey Arnold was slow paced and meditative a lot of the time and really captured the spirit of growing up in an urban environment. Spongebob has suffered from a slow and agonizing wringing of everything good from it, but that doesn't retroactively erase what made it good in the first place and connected with people of all ages.

 

The massive crossover would just have to know what made these characters and properties good and try to celebrate those aspects rather than censor them.

 

 

I know not all fanfiction is bad I have enjoyed several fanfics. Heck, I write fanfiction. I was just referring to the bad kind of fanfiction where the writer doesn't understand the characters or world at all. Something similar to Double Rainboom.

 

Jesus, everypony has such disproportionate hatred to that piece. >_>

 

 

 

Admtivevly, I've only played 3 of those Nicktoons games and only 2 of them I got far in. They were okay I guess. I can't really say much about Nicktoons Unite since I only ever got to the second world. But yeah, I can see how an idea like this (unfortunatly now confirmed to not be happening) can work.

 

Yeah bummer, I was simply saying that, yes, I have seen this concept work before and I'm a huge crossover booster so anything that involves characters I know interacting with each other has my approval, if not my praise because as you said, it can be done wrong. 

Aye, but another issue is relevancy as well. It would work with longer lasting cartoons and appeal like Zim, XJ9, SpongeBob, and Aang. The issue than further stems if you want to involve cast members that aren't so popular anymore and of course finding a script that can make it work somehow or the movie a severe backlash from multiple fan bases to put it mildly. That's also not counting how time may have aged the original va's enough that it would be problematic or circumstances demanding new va's to replace them.

 

That's the main reason I think it would not even be happening. However good or bad individual nicktoons are, they've largely been supplanted. Some pieces of art are time capsules that endure past the environment that forged them, others are simply meant for that environment.

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Just speaking as a writer and one who did grow up with these properties, yes, cartoon writing has indeed improved from the nineties. Shows like Rugrats, the Angry Beavers, etc. got nothing on Gravity Falls, Steven Uiniverse, or Hell even FiM. Here's the thing though, some shows were indeed ahead of their time. Hey Arnold was slow paced and meditative a lot of the time and really captured the spirit of growing up in an urban environment. Spongebob has suffered from a slow and agonizing wringing of everything good from it, but that doesn't retroactively erase what made it good in the first place and connected with people of all ages.

 

The massive crossover would just have to know what made these characters and properties good and try to celebrate those aspects rather than censor them.

I definitely agree with this. If such a crossover would occur, they would have to focus on what made us love these characters in the first place, rather than attempting to apply modern themes to them that would make the character seem alienated. It is like how Spongebob from season 4 onward made all of the characters completely one dimensional and thus, incredibly annoying. I would love to see in this kind of crossover the characters being done how they once were. 

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