Do you think any of the Stallions get upset how Equestria is female dominated?

[Azureth 687]

Equestria is a clearly female dominated society, do you think any of the Stallions or male ponies get upset over it and ask for equal representation much in the way women do in our society?

[Odyssey 5,717]

No? There has never been a stallion in the show who complained about how there are too many mares, so based on that, it's safe to say that they're pretty content with living in a female-dominant society. Comparing Equestria's society to ours is like comparing apples to oranges, anyway.

[ggg-2 3,553]

Stallions and mares seem pretty equal to me. I wouldn't say Equestria is a COMPLETELY egalitarian society, but pretty damn close.

[AzureNightLight 122]

In my opinion, I don't think that its female dominated. I think the makes just all went and joined the army. I'm pretty sure there is a spell which makes them all look identical. This is shown in that alternate timeline with the war; There were many soldiers there.

[Spanish In Physician 295]

I would have to agree with you GGG-2. Equestria does indeed seem as close to an egalitarian society as it should be. It certainly seems, that gender roles in Equestria are still necessary, without the illusion of being limiting. I gotta say, I love it. That being said, the ponies only seem to dominate so much of the planet. There are still many lands we have yet to even know of. Even further into that, there are so many other sentient races in the series, such as griffons, diamond dogs, and even dragons. Couple that with the fact that their world has a natural magic base, and you can't really compare it to human society as well, because these things tend to muddy the waters.

[BastementSparkle 20,328]

So far, it doesn't seem like Equestria is really "Unequal" in terms of actual rights or treatment. Maybe the writer's give the stallions less attention, no surprise, since the show is mostly focused on mares, but it doesn't seem like Equestria itself does the same. Most of the stallions seem pretty happy and content, and while a lot of them might follow their "Gender Role", doing things like being a guard or a farmer, that doesn't seem forced on them. All the more feminine stallions were treated fine, and nobody was upset by Big Mac being in a dress, just that he was going against the rules of a competition.

 

 It just seems like there's a higher number of mares than there is stallions, but they're treated...mostly the same.

[Concerned Bystander 2,903]

Given the target demographic of the cartoon it's not surprising that the focus is on female characters.  I would however question any assertion that there is inequality present in Equestria.

 

Shining Armour is the captain of the Royal Guard, Mr Cake is the co-owner of a business, Donut Joe is also a business owner. Fancy Pants was described by Rarity as "the most important pony in Canterlot", and is clearly a pony held in high regard.  Last but not least, we have Prince Blueblood who (despite being a douchebag) does hold the title of Prince, which would place him at a similar (if not equal) social standing to the royal sisters themselves.

 

My point is that the lack of focus on male characters does not equate to a lack of social standing or equality.  The focus on female characters is simply a perfectly understandable narrative choice because the cartoon is aimed predominantly at young girls.

Edited April 9, 2016 by Concerned Bystander

[Lunar Echo 10,335]

Not sure why, but the sound of a world filled with powerful women sounds delightful.

Us males can finally have a break, and live the easy life while the females do all the hard work.

Nothing wrong here I believe.

[captainborgue 343]

Equestria is a clearly female dominated society, do you think any of the Stallions or male ponies get upset over it and ask for equal representation much in the way women do in our society?

 

Has anybody mentioned yet that in the wild, mares outnumber stallions by a significant margin?

 

Not to mention, having a smaller male population would ensure less conflict over mates.

 

It's also possible that we simply see fewer males in the series because it centers around the Mane Six, who all don't seem to have full time steady jobs. Perhaps all the males are working in factories or the like, or otherwise busy working for a living in the middle of the day when the Mane Six are trotting off to wherever.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

I'd say not.  The stallions in Equestria seem to care far less about this than members of the fandom do. xD  That'd be one point in favor of stallions, actually. o_O

[cmarston1 5,959]

I highly doubt that any of them actually due.

Plus seeing the target demographic of the show, it makes sense for more of the female characters to be given spotlight over the male characters.

I don't think that means that Equestria is mostly female dominated.

[Luigi 7,870]

Give me a break! It's not the 1910's anymore.

 

Just look at Soarin, Shining Armor, and Big McIntosh! They're all doing all right, and for all we know, there may already be an equilibrium between males and females that they don't even show off!

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,676]

I haven't seen any indication that males in FiM have less rights or anything, so I'd say they are doing fine. 

[Moonlight 7,287]

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As this thread has to do with the show, it has been moved to Show Discussion

 

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[Vixor 80]

Equestria is a clearly female dominated society, do you think any of the Stallions or male ponies get upset over it and ask for equal representation much in the way women do in our society?

 

You're blatantly wrong, and to be honest I'm tired of people spreading that nonsense, because it's clearly gender-egalitarian. There's no evidence whatsoever that Equestria is a matriarchy or patriarchy or otherwise dominated by any gender, nor has there ever been, and in fact everything in the show points towards great equality in that regard. We've seen ponies of both genders in all sorts of positions and careers, neither gender has been portrayed as superior or dominant, there's no real enforced gender roles to speak of, and both genders have been portrayed as equally capable. It's pretty clear that Equestria is gender-egalitarian, and has pretty much perfect equality in that regard, both de-jure and de-facto. The current alicorns being female TECHNICALLY means you could refer to their government as a matriarchy, but that definition only really points out the gender of the head of state and could just as easily apply to the UK, so it's pretty meaningless.

 

Either way, the show is focused on female characters, screentime wise (mostly due to the main protags being mostly female, side characters receive equal amounts of screentime regardless of gender), but it has never, ever portrayed them as superior or dominant. Anyone who think that Equestria is 'female-dominated' or 'male-dominated' or anything of that nature is just spreading pure misinformation, we've had a whole five and counting seasons to observe ponies doing all sorts of things, and it's pretty clear that they are pretty darn equal with gender.

 

Has anybody mentioned yet that in the wild, mares outnumber stallions by a significant margin?

 

Not to mention, having a smaller male population would ensure less conflict over mates.

 

It's also possible that we simply see fewer males in the series because it centers around the Mane Six, who all don't seem to have full time steady jobs. Perhaps all the males are working in factories or the like, or otherwise busy working for a living in the middle of the day when the Mane Six are trotting off to wherever.

 

Oh come on, the only reason that horses in our world are uneven is because the stallions kill each other, or humans organize them that way.

 

Now, it's completely and astoundingly nonsensical to suggest that the same or anything remotely similar would somehow be true for MLP ponies. They are sapient, have advanced civilization and morals, both mares and stallions have equal rights and protections, and they share no real relation to the horses in our world in the first place. The horses in our world are wild animals with no morals or 'higher-thought', and in fact can often be quite brutal like a lot of other wild animals, so suggesting that ponies in MLP who are just as intelligent as we are would start killing each other like that is just unbelievably ridiculous and grimdark. Pretty certain that mares and stallions both are living peacefully in Equestria and not being killed off.

 

Quite frankly, I simply don't buy the idea that mares outnumber stallions. The show being focused towards a certain target demographic shifts perceptions, which is one thing to consider, and background pony crowds are copy/pasted messes that are filled with clones 99% of the time, so you could hardly rely on them for determining anything. Add that to the fact that all mammals have a nearly even birth rate for both genders and that the ponies are in fact primarily monogamous (meaning most ponies are monogamous, but not that poly is illegal or anything, mind you), and I'd have to conclude that the gender-ratio is even and we just don't see it because of DHX not putting time and effort into developing more art assets and hand-placing them all to correct such a mistake.

Edited April 9, 2016 by Vixor

[El Duderino 879]

Well, even if Equestrian society is dominated by females, I don't think the males seem to really care. It seems like a society where gender is not as important when it comes to social roles, so the gender ratio wouldn't bother anyone because they are used to it and their society doesn't necessarily think in the same way ours does.

 

I personally think that we see more female characters in the show because the story is focused around the female characters. That does not mean there are actually more females. 

[Malinter 3,064]

Tbh. Even if males were being dominated, they live in a world where the female to male ratio is something like 4 to 1. Much nicer odds at finding a mate XD

[darkshy 68]

No, maybe Equestria isn't meant to be female dominated like it's depicted to be in the show, but an equal society.

 

It could seem like there's only a lot of females evident in the show because pretty pony's = little girls buying toys. So producing female pony's will increase because they get more screen time, rather than males ponies.

[Cwanky 17,600]

Define "female dominated." The UK , among other Kingdoms still exists g has been ruled and governed at least in part by Queen Elizabeth II, yet there's clearly no indication that society was female dominated, including during the era of Margaret Thatcher. Quite the opposite actually.

 

equestrian is fashioned as a monarchy, but most evidence indicates that it's far from absolute. You have a democratically elected Major in Ponyville.

 

as for the whole mares being more common than stallions , that's arguably more perception than fact, at least outside Ponyville. As we've seen in Manehattan, there's plenty as many stallions as there are mares.

[Th3 Arb1tur 26]

Equestria is cleary a female dominated monarchy with no voting system, kinda like a gender reversed middle ages britain

[Concerned Bystander 2,903]

Equestria is cleary a female dominated monarchy with no voting system, kinda like a gender reversed middle ages britain

 

Since Luna retook her position, Equestria is more of a co-principality than a monarchy, and although the current despots are indeed female the rest of the society is clearly egalitarian without any gender dominance.  In fact, as mentioned earlier, there is at least one male that holds the same rank (although granted not the same authority) as the sisters themselves.

[BrawnyCharger 513]

Within the context of the show, I don't think that the stallions have a problem with it.

 

However out of context, I would like to see the stallions get more focus and character development, just to even out the playing field.

 

If they had more episodes focused on Big Macintosh, Shining Armor, Cheese Sandwich, Bulk Biceps, Soarin, etc, it would show that Equestria has no boundaries for the male ponies and the stallions and colts can achieve what the Mane 6 among others can do.

[Vixor 80]

Equestria is cleary a female dominated monarchy with no voting system, kinda like a gender reversed middle ages britain

 

You're clearly wrong there, but you'll have to read my posts above for all the reasons why, because I don't feel like repeating myself. It's not female or male dominated, and what you're attempting to suggest is even extra ridiculous/nonsense if you try to compare it to the Middle Ages in that regard, because gender-equality during that age was non-existent (and it hurt both genders, mind you), among many other things that made it a very unpleasant place. There's no comparison whatsoever there, as Equestria in the show, as I have said many times before, is a benevolent society that is gender-egalitarian. There's no evidence whatsoever of it being dominated by one gender.

 

Also, they seem to have a mix of monarchy and democratic institutions, or something like that, as they have thing like mayors and judges, among other things we may not be seeing because the show doesn't take us there. I don't know what you'd call that. Either way, the princesses and princes aren't elected, but it certainly seems probable that many or most other ponies in the government are.

 

And on an unrelated and off-topic note, your avatar and banner makes me want to get into New Vegas again. Love that game, but setting it up with mods is a long process. I like to play it with TTW installed, which is something you should try if you haven't already. It lets you play Fo3 and New Vegas together as one game.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Vixor

[Phanact 333]

 

I hope you realize how incredibly sexist and concerning your post is. It's so bad, it pretty much reads as satire, so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just trying to make a joke there. If not though, and you actually believe that, then you're a female-supremacist, plain and simple, as gender equality is in no way compatible with one gender dominating a society. A female dominated society is just as bad as a male dominated one.

 

Anyway, obviously not. Any society that is dominated by one gender is going to be very much worse-off. Fortunately though, there's no evidence that either gender dominates Equestria, and in fact they are gender-egalitarian, and they're doing great.

 

 

Oh yeah, I thought it was apparent that it was sarcasm. My bad. I guess I'll delete my post since I guess its not obvious I was being ironic. 

Edited April 11, 2016 by Phanact

[Vixor 80]

Oh yeah, I thought it was apparent that it was sarcasm. My bad. I guess I'll delete my post since I guess its not obvious I was being ironic. 

 

Oh, it was indeed sarcasm? Bleh, good to hear. I'm not the best at detecting that sometimes, especially when there's a lot of extremist rhetoric going around on the internet these days. It's true that it was rather difficult to tell, and I'm not exactly a fan of that sort of humor in the first place, but you didn't really need to delete the post outright or anything, just making it a little more obvious that it was sarcastic would have been enough to stop anybody from getting the wrong idea. It just came off as potentially serious because I've read the comments of some people who might actually think that way in the past.

 

If you insist on deleting your post though, I'll remove me quoting it from my post, and you can remove quoting me from yours.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Vixor