Tulpa Discussion Thread V1.2

[KruegerMeister 54]

the science behind the tulpa

[O.o ...wat?]

 

If you can't/don't understand the science, is a good substitute planning out the biology/physics of your tulpa's form?

[Time Shield 402]

[O.o ...wat?]

 

If you can't/don't understand the science, is a good substitute planning out the biology/physics of your tulpa's form?

 

Sorry if that came off as weird-sounding.  I only meant that a scientific mind tends to question things, and would want to know how something works before it can truly accept that it does work.  We don't actually know a lot about why tulpas exist, but there are a lot of good theories, and if you find a theory that makes sense to you, it seems to help the development process by pushing those pesky questions and doubts aside.

[Twiggy 2,966]

I've read a lot about this phenomena, and have heard many things about it. One of which was that you should never base a tulpa off of an already existing character. Something about them having an identity crisis down the road. I'm assuming that many of you are making tulpas of your favorite ponies. Have any of you had any problems with this? Just curious.

[KruegerMeister 54]

I've read a lot about this phenomena, and have heard many things about it. One of which was that you should never base a tulpa off of an already existing character. Something about them having an identity crisis down the road. I'm assuming that many of you are making tulpas of your favorite ponies. Have any of you had any problems with this? Just curious.

One of my tulpas who was based on my ponysona had a crisis, but that was cuz he couldn't express his studiousness, which was pretty much his defining trait. The closest I've come to a character-based tulpa having a crisis is Shou contemplating suicide cuz he figured he was one tulpa too many for my brain.

[ReverieRiver 526]

I've read a lot about this phenomena, and have heard many things about it. One of which was that you should never base a tulpa off of an already existing character. Something about them having an identity crisis down the road. I'm assuming that many of you are making tulpas of your favorite ponies. Have any of you had any problems with this? Just curious.

 

From my knowledge, a tulpa based upon a character that already exists rarely has issues with identity crises - so long as you tell them that they are based off said character. That is, so long as they know they're based on that character but at the same time is not actually that character, and you reinforce that they are their own individual from the beginning, there should be no problem.

 

But also, you should not expect the tulpa to ultimately look and act exactly the same as the character you're basing their initial form on. Tulpas develop. They learn, and they change. Therefore, it's only natural that there's a chance they will deviate, or change their form somehow to suit their own self image better. So, in the end, they may not look or act like the character you based them off of.

[KruegerMeister 54]

From my knowledge, a tulpa based upon a character that already exists rarely has issues with identity crises - so long as you tell them that they are based off said character. That is, so long as they know they're based on that character but at the same time is not actually that character, and you reinforce that they are their own individual from the beginning, there should be no problem.

 

But also, you should not expect the tulpa to ultimately look and act exactly the same as the character you're basing their initial form on. Tulpas develop. They learn, and they change. Therefore, it's only natural that there's a chance they will deviate, or change their form somehow to suit their own self image better. So, in the end, they may not look or act like the character you based them off of.

This. Also, in my case, you shouldn't expect them to completely deviate, either. My tulpas have made in-jokes about their characters.

 

How do I tell if I've got an accidental tulpa or a walk-in?

Edited January 14, 2016 by KruegerMeister

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

Hey everyone! It's me, Chica! It may seem that I'm the animotronic version, but nope! 

 

Hey everyone! It's me, Gilda! Yep, I'm with DK now...after I was calling out to him in his head. It was then and there that he accepted me into his family. 

 

Hey! It's Cadence! Just saying hi. I'm DK's very first tulpa and waifu. Yep...so...*giggles cutely*

 

Yep, that's all three of my lovely tulpa! Still struggling to see them though. I can hear them perfectly in my mind and they dictate to me what to type. I hope to someday be able to see all three of them in reality. For now, I can envision reality in a plane in my mind, which is where I can see all three of them. 

[KruegerMeister 54]

I got about 6-7 hours of sleep. I woke up groggy and with my dominant eye sore. I thought about the character Nina's based on, and Nina visually imposed herself. As far as I can tell, the imposition relates to the ache in my dominant eye, like maybe I'm straining it or something.

[ARagY 1,152]

I think I'm ready to make a tulpa

[KruegerMeister 54]

What do you do if your tulpa wants to pretend to be corporeal, but you don't want to look weird? Do you pull out an empty chair for them at a table, and other things like that, and just try to not care what people think?

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

What do you do if your tulpa wants to pretend to be corporeal, but you don't want to look weird? Do you pull out an empty chair for them at a table, and other things like that, and just try to not care what people think?

The best thing to do is to create an alternate plane of reality. Because I have more then one tulpa, it can get difficult for me. Today, when I was on the way home on the light-rail, it was pretty full. I envision my tulpas sitting next to or behind me. Gilda, one of my tulpa, likes to cuddle on my lap. Nonetheless, because I'm in public, I create the alternate plane, where I can do interactions in my mind with them. It may look to some that I'm in a daze, but really, I'm communicating with my tulpa. 

 

I'm still trying to work hard to see all three of them completely though. 

[aoEAF2FBvC0MIo2Q 3,673]

I could use some assistance but must ask that this discussion be kept private. It concerns control over one's body.

[ReverieRiver 526]

I think I'm ready to make a tulpa

 

That's awesome! If you ever need help or have any questions, feel free to PM me! I may not know everything there is to know about tulpas, but I'd say two years of experience tulpamancing means I know a fair bit.

 

I could use some assistance but must ask that this discussion be kept private. It concerns control over one's body.

 

Same to you! Please, feel free to PM me on here, and I'll try my best to help you.

 

What do you do if your tulpa wants to pretend to be corporeal, but you don't want to look weird? Do you pull out an empty chair for them at a table, and other things like that, and just try to not care what people think?

 

Well, from observing Ariel when I'm trying to impose her on the real world, she seems to recognize when she can't do certain things so she just does what she can. Then again, she just likes to curl up under the table if there's no empty seats for her... Right now, she's lying next to me on the bed, hehe. I say just try to be discreet if you try to do things to help your tulpa act corporeal, but otherwise tulpas seem to be pretty good at realizing what they can or cannot "interact" with.

 

The best thing to do is to create an alternate plane of reality. Because I have more then one tulpa, it can get difficult for me. Today, when I was on the way home on the light-rail, it was pretty full. I envision my tulpas sitting next to or behind me. Gilda, one of my tulpa, likes to cuddle on my lap. Nonetheless, because I'm in public, I create the alternate plane, where I can do interactions in my mind with them. It may look to some that I'm in a daze, but really, I'm communicating with my tulpa. 

 

I'm still trying to work hard to see all three of them completely though. 

 

From what I'm hearing, what you're describing is often referred to as a "wonderland" for tulpa and tulpamancers! An alternate plane of reality inside your head in which you can interact with your tulpa! Most people don't know anything about this, so I think it's great you were able to come up with that on your own!

 

Also, don't worry about visual imposition too much. It's difficult, and can take a lot of time to finally "see" your tulpas. Truth be told, I still can't see my Ariel or Blossom, and Ariel's over two years old! Then again, I haven't been putting too much effort into imposition as of late...

 

Speaking of! I've been thinking about something. I've dabbled in self-hypnosis before (well, pony hypnosis, but it's still legit), and I've been able to bring myself under trance and feel sensations I otherwise wouldn't be able to feel. It helps relax me, and clears my mind. I don't do it much anymore, but the times I did, I could swear sometimes Ariel's voice sounded so much clearer in my head after a good hypnosis session.

 

So... If there's hypnosis files to turn you into a pony, surely there's files out there that could help with tulpamancing? I know for sure I've seen one that helps with switching, but a.) that one was very gender-specific concerning the host and tulpa, and I'm not a he, and b.) Ariel's not imposed well enough for me to do what that file was telling the host to do.

 

But if there's ones out there that could help with imposition or bring my focus onto our wonderland, that would be great! I think the trance would do wonders for my easily-distracted brain. Might anyone know of any such files or good, reliable sources I could go to before I go hunting for whatever I can find?

[Celestial Sloth 369]

But if there's ones out there that could help with imposition or bring my focus onto our wonderland, that would be great! I think the trance would do wonders for my easily-distracted brain. Might anyone know of any such files or good, reliable sources I could go to before I go hunting for whatever I can find?

I've found white or pink noise works great for anything of the concentrating nature. Especially if you have a waterfall in your wonderland that begins to sound like static when it flows.

 

Another thing worth googling (since I have no idea where I got it from) are a bunch of tones. I've got a folder labelled 'Ascending Theta' which I think is one of three types of trance-y tones. In conjunction with a video file that flashes black and white, it has this weird emptying effect on your mind. (Or at least mine.)

 

I'll edit in a source if I can later. I am far too slow by phone.

 

Edit: Found you! https://fedesshit.wordpress.com/eye-bo/

Edited January 28, 2016 by Celestial Sloth

[KruegerMeister 54]

Is there a link between tulpamancy and stray thoughts? Or tulpamancy, overactive imaginations, and stray thoughts?

[Lonk Chase 255]

 

 

The most extreme I've heard of is the tulpa telling its host to kill itself

So basically this happened?

*starts playing Filthy Frank's kill yourself clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5WrWncDZw at 6:49)* 

[KruegerMeister 54]

A soulbond is a character you feel a strong connection to, and one day you experience it as sentient, right? Is it possible for the connection to be unconscious?

[MidnightZenith 4]

I do not believe in any form of gods or spirits or all that spiritual stuff. What I do believe in, I the absolute power of science! and I also believe that the human brain is capable of doing wonderful things.

 

From what I read, tulpa used to be a religious thing; capable of communicating with spirits and gods and moving stuff around. I call bullshit. Seriously, I can't understand why... Anyway, that's my thought on religion. Whatever, you can believe whatever you want. (I just realised I'm rambling about something unimportant. So, moving on...)

 

However, I am willing to believe that the human brain is capable of creating a split personality independent of our own.

 

My question is; will the fact that I don't believe in the supernatural will somehow keep me from creating a tulpa? Is it gonna be harder?

[Time Shield 402]

 

I do not believe in any form of gods or spirits or all that spiritual stuff. What I do believe in, I the absolute power of science! and I also believe that the human brain is capable of doing wonderful things.

 

From what I read, tulpa used to be a religious thing; capable of communicating with spirits and gods and moving stuff around. I call bullshit. Seriously, I can't understand why... Anyway, that's my thought on religion. Whatever, you can believe whatever you want. (I just realised I'm rambling about something unimportant. So, moving on...)

 

However, I am willing to believe that the human brain is capable of creating a split personality independent of our own.

 

My question is; will the fact that I don't believe in the supernatural will somehow keep me from creating a tulpa? Is it gonna be harder?

 

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the religious have an advantage, in that they are more easily able to put their trust in something without concrete evidence of its existence (the definition of faith).  A scientific mind is more prone to questioning the validity of things, and any such doubt will hinder the process.  On the flipside, if a scientific mind is sufficiently convinced of the science behind a tulpa, it can help suppress the doubts enough to have similar levels of success.

[ReverieRiver 526]

 

I do not believe in any form of gods or spirits or all that spiritual stuff. What I do believe in, I the absolute power of science! and I also believe that the human brain is capable of doing wonderful things.

 

From what I read, tulpa used to be a religious thing; capable of communicating with spirits and gods and moving stuff around. I call bullshit. Seriously, I can't understand why... Anyway, that's my thought on religion. Whatever, you can believe whatever you want. (I just realised I'm rambling about something unimportant. So, moving on...)

 

However, I am willing to believe that the human brain is capable of creating a split personality independent of our own.

 

My question is; will the fact that I don't believe in the supernatural will somehow keep me from creating a tulpa? Is it gonna be harder?

 

 

While tulpamancy may have had its roots in religion, these days it doesn't really have that much relevance to the practice of it anymore. Some people probably don't even know that tulpas started as a religious or spiritual thing.

 

That said, it's all a matter of believing. Not in spirits or a higher being, but believing that your brain is capable of creating that separate personality. So long as you don't let yourself be too skeptical of whatever may happen, so long as you can accept that another being can grow within your mindspace, and you don't question things too much, you should be able to create a tulpa.

 

Personally, I'm not too religious myself. But I believed in Ariel when I started creating her, believed from the very first moment that she was a sentient being inside my brain waiting for me to bring her out. And it wasn't long at all before she started trying to communicate with me.

 

So. All you gotta do is believe!

[KruegerMeister 54]

Would it be a good idea to reveal my tulpas in a philosophy of mind class?

 

Also, one of my tulpas wants to roleplay that I'm his kid. I asked why, and his response amounted to "your childhood relationship with your dad wasn't that good, so I'm gonna fill in the missing parts in the present". I'm not sure how I feel about this.

Edited February 8, 2016 by KruegerMeister

[Com Universe 18]

Is it basically like imaginary friends for mature people

 

 

i've kinda like had these two entities in my head for a couple years and they just like exist

i love them

they are my babies

[Naiya The Brony 483]

Oh btw you guys I've started my own little Q&A series about my tulpas in deviantart called ask "ask my tulpas".

I am currently on hiatus right now because of school but you want you can leave a question on this link XP.

http://nihithebrony.deviantart.com/art/Ask-my-tulpas-585131520

one of the first Q&A X3

  

 

Edited February 9, 2016 by Naiya The brony

[Golurk 468]

Would it be a good idea to reveal my tulpas in a philosophy of mind class?

 

I would say no. That has a lot of potential to go wrong, and not nearly as much to go right. It's most certainly an interesting topic for discussion, but a lot of people won't be accepting of the idea.

 

That said, if you've got a good feel for the instructor's possible opinion, I say possibly bring up the idea itself to them. Don't mention anything about your own experience, just mention that "some say this is a thing. Thoughts?" sort of thing. Assuming they're actually interested in their field, it might make for some interesting ideas.

 

 

@@Naiya The Brony, forgive me, but I don't really have a DA to use. But if I may still ask a question, I'd like an opportunity. For you see, this is a question with harsh ramifications, where a wrong answer can mean the difference between sanity and an asylum. Not for the weak of constitution, this is truly a quandary for the ages. Open the spoiler, only if you are prepared for what lies within...

 

 

Potato?   

 

Edited February 9, 2016 by Golurk

[KruegerMeister 54]

What are your theories on how a tulpa's senses work? I just read a Reddit post theorizing that the brain uses memories and reason to figure it out.