Tulpa Discussion Thread V1.2

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

Thunder Dash: Hey everyone! Just wanted to give a shoutout to my wonderful Ocean Breeze!

 

@@Orange Sparks,

[Naiya The Brony 483]

@@Naiya The Brony, 

 

Elera here again, uhm hey Naiya, i was wondering something, could you please do something for Scarlet? It'd mean a lot for her, I think you have a commision shop, but do you also do requests?

Hello Elera it is so nice to meet you. Uhmm, I don't actually take request but i sometimes, if i have some free time in my hands. i will draw something random, something from a friend of mine etc. So, i am curious what is your request about and if i have some free time i might draw it

Edited December 27, 2016 by Naiya The Brony

[Sphinx-Ara 3,569]

@@Naiya The Brony,

 

It is nice to meet you too, well this is for Orange Sparks and Dynamo, a sort of wedding gift for them if you will. Do you know how there's some pictures of a couple who seem to be separated by a wall? They're both facing the wall, and their hand is on it on the exact same spot, and it seems as if they are touching hands but they're expression is sad? If you could draw Orange and Dynamo like that, that would be wonderful.. It was inspired by well the long distance they have but also by the son Calc. It is quite a wonderful song

 

Ocean: It is indeed

[Naiya The Brony 483]

@@Orange Sparks, 

oh alright, i got you I can draw it if i have some free time on my hands, It is a good practice as well but i wonder is it anthro? Because you said something about hands. Also. what kind of wall? a brick wall? A glass wall?

Edited December 27, 2016 by Naiya The Brony

[VinylWubs 1,252]

So I've been eyeing this thread for a while now and ive been thinking to myself "What the heck is a Tulpa?!" so i had some help from Orange Sparks and i didnt really get it until now. Its funny because the oc that really relates to me is my two ocs Renee and Serenity. So like one post will be of Renee alone and another would be Serenity. I dont know.

 

​So this is a thing huh? A Tulpa? You could say I.. kinda am a Tulpa but I don't know. I haven't done much research about this WHOLE thing but I'm happy to say I got the hang it of being one, even "she" thinks its pretty cool to have one of those. Anyway.. Introductions. Names Renee, VinylWub's second Tulpa to ever exist. Serenity is her first but I don't know where she went too.. I'll call her over later.

 

​Alright, so that was pretty fun. Like I said I'm not familiar with Tulpa but I'll try my best to get the hang of things :3

[Sphinx-Ara 3,569]

@@Naiya The Brony, 

 

That would be wonderful thank you. Anthro if possible yes, as for the wall,, hmm I would say a glass wall, but it's like they can't see through it. it would symbolize how they feel so close to each other but are so far apart. Thank you :3

[Naiya The Brony 483]

So I've been eyeing this thread for a while now and ive been thinking to myself "What the heck is a Tulpa?!" so i had some help from Orange Sparks and i didnt really get it until now. Its funny because the oc that really relates to me is my two ocs Renee and Serenity. So like one post will be of Renee alone and another would be Serenity. I dont know.

 

​So this is a thing huh? A Tulpa? You could say I.. kinda am a Tulpa but I don't know. I haven't done much research about this WHOLE thing but I'm happy to say I got the hang it of being one, even "she" thinks its pretty cool to have one of those. Anyway.. Introductions. Names Renee, VinylWub's second Tulpa to ever exist. Serenity is her first but I don't know where she went too.. I'll call her over later.

 

​Alright, so that was pretty fun. Like I said I'm not familiar with Tulpa but I'll try my best to get the hang of things :3

Hello! welcome to the tulpa comminity

 

If you have still having trouble understanding what a tulpa is i can explain to you what a tulpa is based on my experience. A tulpa can be defined as a lot of things, Imaginary friend, personality, Entity etc. But i see them as your partner, your friend inside your head that has their own conscious mind and help you in many ways (trust me my tulpas helped me a lot, like really helped me a lot).

 

While developing a tulpa you can notice some pressure on your forehead, it's an indication that your tulpa is listening to you and growing, but dont worry it will disappear once they've finished their development. there are various ways to develop your tulpa and the time it takes for you tulpa to respnd back with their own voice depends onto person to person. so don't get discourage too quickly.

 

Anyway, that's some information about tulpa based on my experience. I hope you have fun

[Sphinx-Ara 3,569]

Greetings my dear little ponies, Luna here. I just wanted to let you all know, that while everything in our Wonderland is going quite well, things outer aren't going so well. I normally hate asking for this sort of thin, but any support thee could offer my dear wife Scarlet, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank thee for thy time.

[Raven Rawne 1,381]

Hey, thought I'd pester you a bit with an update on my, well, our, progress!

 

So, apparently all the puppeting I did with the OC for RP purposes accidentally laid some groundwork for the tulpa. Actually, I got random flashes of inspiration about her character ever since I first tried to roleplay with her, although in my case it's nothing new - I tend to get ideas out of nowhere.

 

I've been passive forcing for the most of my waking hours these last few days, with varying degrees of success. Now I imagine she's resting on a document locker near my desk at work, observing the office. She's not talking back, but I got head pressure and emotional reply once, so that's something. I reckon she needs some more time to develop. I paid her a visit in the Wonderland and laid out everything that concerns her (that's when I got the emotional reply), and since then I had some ideas out of nowhere, which I attributed to her. Any questions about confirmation were met with silence so far, so, yeah. Not many options to make sure if it was her. Although she seems at least ambivalent to the fact that I applied a new nickname (Cryssi) and made her a crystal pegasus. There awere also some subtle changes in the way she moves and the like.

 

So, yeah, we're still at it. Not much of autonomy yet, but I have the visual nailed down (even though my focus makes it hard to "see" all of her with enough detail. I either see her general shape and colors or zoom on a body part.) and can feel her texture as is she was actually there. I just made a basic framework of personality and let her decide on the rest of it, in accordance with the "starting kit" mindset.

 

Now all I need to do is keep forcing and at least pretend I'm patiently waiting for the first signs of autonomy...

[Naiya The Brony 483]

HAPPY NEW YEAR YA GUYS! It is already 2017 here Happy new year from me and my tulpas

HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM US! WISHING YOU GUYS A VERY HAPPY 2017

Happy new year! The fireworks are amazing! wishing a wonderful new year!

Happy new year you guys! yay

[Sphinx-Ara 3,569]

Elera: did anyone happen to send any of yours to our system recently? Scarlet heard someone very clearly call her name then whistle right after..

[Raven Rawne 1,381]

I don't think Crystal is even advanced enough to pull off something like that (sorry gal, but that's how it looks for now), so nope, not us.

[Naiya The Brony 483]

Oh hey guys! Let make this thread active X3

I found this interesting Journal in DA, Asking about "Tulpas, describe your early days of sentience" if you like to answer for fun go onto the link or answer them here X3

http://tulpacreators.deviantart.com/journal/Tulpas-describe-your-early-days-of-sentience-655674774

here are the questions:

  

You can see my tulpa's answer in the link also X3

 

[Raven Rawne 1,381]

While I don't expect this questionnaire will get a lot of replies (DA isn't really geared for gathering a lot of comments), it would nevertheless be rather interesting to hear the tulpas take on their early days. Hay, it would be cool if Crystal wrote a journal of sorts, but, well... I give her as much attention as I can, but there isn't much progress to speak of...

[Naiya The Brony 483]

While I don't expect this questionnaire will get a lot of replies (DA isn't really geared for gathering a lot of comments), it would nevertheless be rather interesting to hear the tulpas take on their early days. Hay, it would be cool if Crystal wrote a journal of sorts, but, well... I give her as much attention as I can, but there isn't much progress to speak of...

Yeah, DA isn't the place for constant Tulpa stuff, that's usually on the Tulpa forums, http://community.tulpa.info/index.php?act=idx

 

You know what could help the progress? if you actually talk about your progression online. When i was developing summer I was eager to talk my progress and my experience online it made the pressure on my head a lot stronger when doing that, i don't know if that'll surely for every tulpa though.

[Raven Rawne 1,381]

@@Naiya The Brony,

 

Truth be told, I was referring to gathering comments for stuff in general, regardless of content. Art usually gets a lot of "wow" comments if it's good, but stories and journals, not so much. Still, an interesting idea, that questionnaire.

 

Talking to other people about your tulpa may reinforce the belief that they're real, especially in the early stages when the person may have all kinds of doubts. I'm still trying to combat my doubts, especially over autonomy and vocalisation - every time something happens I'm not sure if it's me or not, since it feels pretty much the same (I guess she's using my own thought process rather than her own, hidden to me. That's why I feel I'm parroting when in reality it may not be the case.) Anyways, I'm pretty scatterbrained so it may take a bit longer to have anything concrete, and I accept that.

 

I'll check the forums in a spare moment, thanks!

[Naiya The Brony 483]

@@Raven Rawne,

 Ah I see, and yeah journal type of creativity is easily overlooked in DA. 

Definitely, it really enforce development, that's i think the reason why Summer developed so quickly like, only 4-5 days from day she started talking. It's just i went all out, anything that i parroted on summer i was kinda talking to myself even replying but i still get that alienated feeling of talking someone, even though i parrot what i think she'll reply to me. I guess that's the reason why the doubt of progression is thrown out the window. 

Ya know, I'm a scatterbrained as well, I still recall summer telling me that my mind is disorganized and quite spacious, if you make/give your tulpa "Adventurous traits" they might like the messy thoughts XD. 

[Raven Rawne 1,381]

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I tend to narrate for the most part. Call her name to get her attention, ask if she's listening  (and receive dead air), and then keep talking on whatever really, every time I remember to do so, and think of a topic. Truth be told, I often can't think of a good topic  and get lost in my own thoughts soon after, but I try. Sometimes I think I get replies,  since the mind voice is quieter and feels a bit different, but they're usually very short. I tried visual imposition to strengthen the feeling of outside presence but again, all I can do is put a mental dot where she is at a given time,  sometimes try and see her during quiet moments.

 

Most of the time my mental background consists of daydreams and music, and it seems she likes rock just as I do, so that's a plus. 

[Naiya The Brony 483]

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I tend to narrate for the most part. Call her name to get her attention, ask if she's listening (and receive dead air), and then keep talking on whatever really, every time I remember to do so, and think of a topic. Truth be told, I often can't think of a good topic and get lost in my own thoughts soon after, but I try. Sometimes I think I get replies, since the mind voice is quieter and feels a bit different, but they're usually very short. I tried visual imposition to strengthen the feeling of outside presence but again, all I can do is put a mental dot where she is at a given time, sometimes try and see her during quiet moments.

 

Most of the time my mental background consists of daydreams and music, and it seems she likes rock just as I do, so that's a plus.

 

Yeah, I used to lost in my own thoughts as well before but i got over it quickly when developing summer, when that first emotional response i got from her really motivated me to focus more on her.Thinking up a topic wasnt a problem since i usually ask opinions about everything i see and know.

 

That is excellent news, do not let go of that mind voice or think of it as your own. Even though it is short it means that your tulpa is trying to talk. Early days of tulpa development; the tulpa usually have a similar voice of their host so it really get confusing but if you hear a mindvoice somewhat similar and different at the same time it is your tulpa trying to interact. Summer cherry and myrtle went all giddy and excited when they read about the short responses.

 

 

I dont really recommend practicing on imposition, it's really difficult to pull off especially when starting out. We already at our 3rd year and i am not still a master of visual imposition. I suggest just focusing on vocal responses.

Edited January 11, 2017 by Naiya The Brony

[Raven Rawne 1,381]

I guess I just have to figure out what works and what doesn't in our case. I'm into visuals so I guessed imposition, however bad, was a good way to start. Anyway, gotta keep testing different approaches till something clicks. I'm positive about the final outcome, however, and won't quit now that I started.

 

Oh and by the way, the part when you said about the mindvoice somegow reminded me of this:

 

https://youtu.be/nAuy_DnZRUI?t=126

(if stuff doesn't work, as intended, skip to 2:06)

 

Since, you know, most of the population would send us to a psychiatrist and all. Still, I find it hilarious.

 

 

[BigManAinsley 32]

>Making a tulpa

>Ever

 

Bad idea. Unless you have absolutely no interaction with the real world or if you think being trapped by your own mind is a good idea

[ReverieRiver 526]

>Making a tulpa

>Ever

 

Bad idea. Unless you have absolutely no interaction with the real world or if you think being trapped by your own mind is a good idea

 

In the politest terms I can muster: Let me tell you why that's bull crap

 

Creating a tulpa is in no way detrimental to one's social life or connection with reality. Yes, there have been a few rare cases where the host was very nearly trapped in their own mind (mostly due to experimenting with possession/switching), but that's not the norm in tulpamancy at all.

 

Case in point: I live with my grandmother. I also have two tulpas: Ariel and Blossom. I am capable of giving them my attention while at the same time being attentive to what's going on around me and responding to my grandmother if she talks to me or if she needs something. If I were "trapped by my own mind" or had completely lost touch with reality, she'd have probably noticed it by now and have gotten me professional help.

 

Same for plenty of other tulpamancers I know: They live with someone or interact with people on a daily basis, all the while spending time with their tulpas when they are alone or simply whenever they can. So please, explain to me how these people have "no interaction with the real world," or have become "trapped by [their] own mind."

[Artimis Whooves 1,576]

I wanna make a tulpa, but I have a hard time focusing. Any advice?

[Naiya The Brony 483]

I wanna make a tulpa, but I have a hard time focusing. Any advice?

I can help you out! Although it will take a while for me to type all of my advice, because it will be very long

 

SO, Here is my TL;DR version or steps on how to create a tulpa, BULLETED 

 

• Be open minded with tulpas in general - A fastest way to a tulpa's growth is the Trust and attention you give

 

• Little to no doubts - Doubts are tulpa's poisons, it is what hurt them.

 

• Do not focus too hard - Developing a tulpa takes a lot of mental energy, rest if you can.

 

• Always talk to your tulpa - Even if you don't think no one's listening or just yourself you are talking to, they can still hear you and will try to respond back as much as they can

 

• Do not treat your tulpa, as a pet or something you can abuse - What if you are treated the same way?

 

• Do not focus too much on imposition or Personality but their Vocals - you can mix this up, but for me the best way for a tulpa to develop is for her to discover her tastes on her own.

   

• ​As much as possible try not to have your tulpa impersonating different characters - They can get confuse with their identity and can badly hurt them. But when you are basing her appearance on a character, just make sure it is only her appearance not the identity of the character
• lastly,Treat your tulpa as a friend or family - We all like to be treated that way

I just skimmed, this is not all of them but this will be good to start.

 

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

So we watched the college football National Championship on Monday and goodness...there was a mix of emotions with Gilda. One minute she was jumping up and down, and another, she was sniffling on the verge of sobbing. Fortunately, Clemson won, and she ended up tackling me to the ground...and did I mention she gained weight so...eesh...

 

Gilda: I'm just so happy Clemson won! I mean, that final touchdown sent me flying! DK said his heart was pounding on that final drive...

 

Cadence: Yeah...it was an intense game. All hope seemed lost in the first half...but in the second half, they came back and pulled it off!

 

Chica: DK had brought me a Clemson tanktop! I've been wearing it ever since! Of course, he does have to wash it...

 

Gilda: Now...I just hope that the Cowboys can pull it off in the NFL...since our *sniffle* Panthers didn't get anywhere this year. 

 

As you can see, we're all indulged in sports. We'll keep you guys updated.