Do you think Celestia and Chyrsalis needed an epic magic battle?

[Stary Dreams 87]

Does anypony think it would've been better if Princess Celestia and Queen Chrysalis had a longer much more exciting battle?

I mean more than just shooting beams of light out of their horns; like using some ancient magic spell and a longer time consuming battle?

 

Edit: Considering this is a kid show, they could've made it just a teeny bit more exciting.

 

Edit 2: I don't know if anyone else did this but I was awaiting the moment Luna would come and help her sister. Then when she did appear in the end and asked "Did I miss anything?" I facehoofed =p but hey she might've been sleeping! Who knows?

Edited August 8, 2012 by Stary Dreams

[Username 9]

Yeah, you would think it would take more than an energy beam to take out Equestria's most powerful (known) pony. I was hoping for better.

[Celtore 2,770]

It would have been cool if they had expanded that battle. What would have been great would be if they were equal in power. That, or not going down in less than a minute after making that speech about protecting her people would have been interesting.

[Night Shine 767]

Absolutely. The 'fight' that happened was a huge letdown. I mean what happened seems just like the kind of fight Celestia would choose--a straight up magic-off--but that doesn't mean that I liked it.

[Ethan Pow 332]

If they had less songs to give that fight come context that would be awesome.

 

But since there are kids at the age of 10 and so the fight was just right.

[ZStrike37 107]

Yeah, it would have been more epic had Celestia actually been able to put up a fight, but what can you do? I imagine the writers wanted to do something neat, but as with many shows, time is of the essence. For being the more prominent ruler and protector of Equestria, Celestia definitely needs some attention. It would have been nice if she held off Chrysalis long enough for the Mane 6 to escape and retrieve the Elements in my opinion, but oh well.

[Akemi Homura 7,680]

I mean more than just shooting beams of light out of their horns; like using some ancient magic spell and a longer time consuming battle?

 

I don't think even Celestia would be adequately prepared for such an epic battle should it have come to that.

 

The wedding, to sum it up, was to be a grand formal event held for two VIP ponies (one royalty, one very close to royalty before the actual marriage), nothing more. Nobody (not even the audience) expected an entire army of Changelings to invade the capital city or for the bride to reveal herself as an infiltrator who's also the head of all the invaders, but suspicions were high enough for the city to have Shining Armor erect an enormous force field that would prevent anyone from entering. Security was tight, but tensions weren't high enough for Celestia (or for that matter, Luna) to train and properly prepare for an epic fight with the changeling queen. Hell, nobody even knew that Cadence was locked away in a mining shaft used many centuries ago that are now forgotten about.

 

That being said, Celestia would have obliterated Chrysalis had she not absorbed all that power from Shining Armor. In either case though, I don't think it would come down to using ancient spells to defeat a weaker but nonetheless powerful adversary as it's possible that the entire city might be totalled as a result of the fighting. Going back to my original statement, that Celestia wasn't properly prepared for such a fight (Equestria remains at peace with other nations most of the time, as it seems), so she could only use her Solarbeam attack (and other spells of the sort, not ancient power spells which would require even the strongest of magicians to concentrate for a long while). Sadly for Chrysalis it was almost powerful enough to bring her down, until her absorbed powers kicked in and Celestia's own attack backlashed.

 

I'm also going with the assumption that the power of love from Cadence and S.A. worked the best because it was emotion based and thus actually healed the city rather than having it destroy buildings as a consequence. Not only that, but it sent the Queen and her henchmen rocketing off in another direction.

[Savato 23]

I´m more concerned with nopony except Princess Celestia trying to at least poke Queen Chrysalis. You can´t be suggesting that an entire room full of ponies didn´t even get the idea of trying to break her concentration so Celestia could have overpowered her.

[Stary Dreams 87]

I don't think even Celestia would be adequately prepared for such an epic battle should it have come to that.

 

The wedding, to sum it up, was to be a grand formal event held for two VIP ponies (one royalty, one very close to royalty before the actual marriage), nothing more. Nobody (not even the audience) expected an entire army of Changelings to invade the capital city or for the bride to reveal herself as an infiltrator who's also the head of all the invaders, but suspicions were high enough for the city to have Shining Armor erect an enormous force field that would prevent anyone from entering. Security was tight, but tensions weren't high enough for Celestia (or for that matter, Luna) to train and properly prepare for an epic fight with the changeling queen. Hell, nobody even knew that Cadence was locked away in a mining shaft used many centuries ago that are now forgotten about.

 

That being said, Celestia would have obliterated Chrysalis had she not absorbed all that power from Shining Armor. In either case though, I don't think it would come down to using ancient spells to defeat a weaker but nonetheless powerful adversary as it's possible that the entire city might be totalled as a result of the fighting. Going back to my original statement, that Celestia wasn't properly prepared for such a fight (Equestria remains at peace with other nations most of the time, as it seems), so she could only use her Solarbeam attack (and other spells of the sort, not ancient power spells which would require even the strongest of magicians to concentrate for a long while). Sadly for Chrysalis it was almost powerful enough to bring her down, until her absorbed powers kicked in and Celestia's own attack backlashed.

 

I'm also going with the assumption that the power of love from Cadence and S.A. worked the best because it was emotion based and thus actually healed the city rather than having it destroy buildings as a consequence. Not only that, but it sent the Queen and her henchmen rocketing off in another direction.

 

Well said, and yes I think the power of love from Cadence and S.A. put the story to a good end. Otherwise it might've not been so good.

[Crispy 5,563]

Yeah, it'd have been nice to see an extended fight. Something at least as long as Fluttershy's encounter with the bear.

 

Or something along these lines:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, if you don't already, go follow that tumblr, it is awesome.

[Flicker Sweet 3,391]

Yeah, it'd have been nice to see an extended fight. Something at least as long as Fluttershy's encounter with the bear.

 

Or something along these lines:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, if you don't already, go follow that tumblr, it is awesome.

 

What's the url for this page? :3

 

anyway back to the topic at hand:

I think an epic battle would be good, if they either did it Star Wars style, or Pinkie Pie style!!!!!

[Creamy Arty 6,252]

There could have been some teleportation and/or shielding involved. Celestia could have gotten out of the way when it became apparent that Chrysalis was about to win, and things could have been dragged on for another minute or so there.

 

I'm also going with the assumption that the power of love from Cadence and S.A. worked the best because it was emotion based and thus actually healed the city rather than having it destroy buildings as a consequence.

My theory was that the changelings need the love to be focused to them specifically for them to absorb it. Chrysalis essentially seduced Shining Armor by impersonating his fiancé, so that was easy enough. But any love directed at another is useless to them. Or potentially harmful if combined with magic the way we saw SA and Cadence do. And an alicorn + a unicorn was just too much even for the queen of the changelings I guess.

 

I still want to know what exactly that sack was made of that suspended Celestia from the ceiling.

[Mephala 2,633]

Ooh, yes, I would love that. The battle was very anticlimactic to me, I wanted more fighting!

Though I want a Chrysalis vs. Luna showdown more

[spaghettinoodles 298]

Yes, Celestia was defeated far too easily. But since they have to cut episodes for time, there's a chance that they had originally had a longer battle in mind, possibly.

[Lightning Flicker 101]

I didn't necessarily mind the way the fight went. What I had an issue with is that Luna was nowhere to be found and then after everything's over, here she comes. "Did I miss anything?" Honestly, how could she miss everything?!

[Crispy 5,563]

"Did I miss anything?"

 

I literally sighed when she said that in the episode.

 

"Only the entire season, Luna. Only the entire season."

[Lightning Flicker 101]

I know. It sucked not seeing her. I mean, she's so awesome in my mind and she was just not there. Hopefully we'll see more of her though....

[Radiance64 7,053]

I think it was fine the way it is, I mean at least they horn locked for a second, and besides, I think the way Celestia's surprise defeat was portrayed was definitely epic enough, I bet many a gasp was uttered.

[Dasher 119]

Yes the one hit K-O thing may work for the show intended audience but really the most *COUGH *COUGH DISCORD Second most powerful chacter in the show getting killed in one shot.... At least they could have had a decent fight.

 

However on the other side it did show how powerful Chyrsalis was.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Dasher

[NavelColt 22,880]

This is a given.

 

The sad excuse for a fight that Celestia had was retarded. What would have been MUCH better, would to have seen them clash as they did, have it have been a draw, and then, Celestia leads Chrysalis outside and onto the upper balcony and roof areas, to battle her more intensely there. While Celestia is battling Chrysalis, she tells the Mane 6 to go and gather the Elements of Harmony, so that they can repel the Queen and her army. It wouldn't have been until they came back, when you would have seen Celestia defeated after her intense battle. Then, while Chrysalis brags, maybe then is when Celestia is put inside her cocoon.

[Twi Rubix 726]

I may be the minority here, but...

 

It would of been nice to see a slightly longer fight, but I'm assuming we didn't want like... a 5 minute epic battle. Besides, it's not like it was the final showdown or anything like that. It was just Celestia attempting to protect everypony, and to give the hint that Chrysalis is very powerful to outmatch Celestia. So no, I don't think we needed a longer fight.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Twi Rubix

[Dreadmallon 353]

Ancient Egyptian Lazer Beams!

 

Nah, but seriously. A huge letdown. Everyone expected Celestia to be a lot more powerful.

[Retden 19]

An epic horn duel over a huge flowing lava river while flying relative close to the hot boiling lava and casting fireproof spell at the same time would be nice

I'm okay with the original one.

[Starstream 182]

I don't think even Celestia would be adequately prepared for such an epic battle should it have come to that.

 

The wedding, to sum it up, was to be a grand formal event held for two VIP ponies (one royalty, one very close to royalty before the actual marriage), nothing more. Nobody (not even the audience) expected an entire army of Changelings to invade the capital city or for the bride to reveal herself as an infiltrator who's also the head of all the invaders, but suspicions were high enough for the city to have Shining Armor erect an enormous force field that would prevent anyone from entering. Security was tight, but tensions weren't high enough for Celestia (or for that matter, Luna) to train and properly prepare for an epic fight with the changeling queen. Hell, nobody even knew that Cadence was locked away in a mining shaft used many centuries ago that are now forgotten about.

 

That being said, Celestia would have obliterated Chrysalis had she not absorbed all that power from Shining Armor. In either case though, I don't think it would come down to using ancient spells to defeat a weaker but nonetheless powerful adversary as it's possible that the entire city might be totalled as a result of the fighting. Going back to my original statement, that Celestia wasn't properly prepared for such a fight (Equestria remains at peace with other nations most of the time, as it seems), so she could only use her Solarbeam attack (and other spells of the sort, not ancient power spells which would require even the strongest of magicians to concentrate for a long while). Sadly for Chrysalis it was almost powerful enough to bring her down, until her absorbed powers kicked in and Celestia's own attack backlashed.

 

I always imagined Celestia usually to be aware of everything in the entire kingdom, (just not the specific details,) and plan many steps in advance. I also imagined that she keeps everyone else in the dark because that's how her smug sense of "fun" just works.

 

I don't know, I guess I just imagined that Celestia had a Batman gambit for everything. And that the almighty ruler of Equestria, who was well aware that there was something unusual going on in Equestria, who stopped Nightmare Moon with the bass ackwards plan to tell her student that "the threat she speaks of does not exist" and that she's a loner who has to get a life and look for some friends, and who planned on completely derailing a grand event by inviting five decently mannered ponies (and one bat-shit insane one) ,and succeeded at doing so, I might add, had at least some hint of an ecstatically pleasing preparation set up in case of a one on one battle with a power hungry tyrant.

 

Edit:

Wow... talk about run-on sentences.

Edited August 8, 2012 by Zhinzo

[kirbyboi 588]

I am surprised myself. I mean, Twilight has magic that can teleport her at will. Celestia should at least have something more grand. If Twilight can pull off more spells than her, then what's Celestia point of fighting Chrysalis?

 

Celestia should show off her powers more. I mean, a simple laser beam doesn't cut it. Otherwise, anyone can win against Celestia. She is claimed as the most 'Powerful pony in Equestria', so she should prove that to us by using her most powerful spells.

 

However, I think it's because she doesn't control the elements of Harmony anymore. She mainly sends the mane six to fight villians for her, because they have a power she doesn't have anymore. They have the Elements of Harmony, which can virtually defeat any villian.