mega thread Unpopular Music Related Opinions

[XxConfusedUnicornxX 834]

I think back in the days where vinyl records were used, music was great.

[Away 2,077]

Sure both can be equaly pleasing aestheticaly but one takes almost no skills whatsoever and second one takes years of studying, practice, learning to compose, play at least 2 instruments (piano and whatever you choose) and perfecting technique.

They both take skill. I really can't stand when people claim that electronic music is sooooooooo easy to make.  -_-

[Burning Question 69]

I know it's not, I tried doing both but still, electronic is nowhere close. NOWHERE close.

[Away 2,077]

I know it's not, I tried doing both but still, electronic is nowhere close. NOWHERE close.

How so? I've never tried making music before.

[Burning Question 69]

I played violin, piano, cymbals, recorder and guitar, finished elementary music school and lately I watched shitload of tutorials on making electronic music - I got basics immediately cause I know theory already, however it takes a lot of practice and another 10000 tutorials to get this stuff right, yet it's all just about clicking goddamn mouse and using options and effects properly etc etc. Mastering sound at the end seems like most difficult part to me. It takes some skills, at least few months of learning and you sure can make cool stuff out of it but seriously- from technical point of view it's primmitive as fuck in how it's made as well as in how electronic instruments sound. Of course purely electronic sounds are superior in electronic music cause instruments can't create them but if you're trying to put instrument in your song without making it sound like your microwave is singing, you simply need real life samples from real instruments. Nothing can compare to how violins can cry and how saxophone can just "flirt" with audience- it's beautiful example of real art, something only professionals could feed people's souls with.

[Away 2,077]

Of course purely electronic sounds are superior in electronic music cause instruments can't create them but if you're trying to put instrument in your song without making it sound like your microwave is singing, you simply need real life samples from real instruments.

 

you simply need real life samples from real instruments.

 

real instruments.

 

real

All instruments are real to me. This is another thing. I also can't stand it when people say "real instruments" or "real sounds".

 

And there are things that electronic music can do that physical instruments can't.

[Burning Question 69]

Well if you think that all instruments are real then we'll have to agree to disagree and end this discussion here cause it's gonna lead to nowhere.

[Away 2,077]

I posted in the wrong unpopular opinion thread.

LOL! It's okay. Accidents happen. That was cute.

Edited February 4, 2014 by LatinoChurro

[Twiliscael 3,960]

When people argue over organic and inorganic instruments. All instruments, synths and computers included, are real instruments.

[Burning Question 69]

This thread makes me feel really sad for modern art right now. REALLY, REALLY SAD and now excuse me while I'm gonna go facepalm in the corner of my room for eternity and beyond. It's so retarted I can't take it and it doesn't even make any goddamn sense. Synthetic sounds = real instruments. Just wat. Exfuckinguse me? HOW DID YOU PEOPLE EVEN GET TO THIS BRILLIANT CONCLUSION?

 

No, I must leave before my mind blows. Goodbye, everyone.

[Away 2,077]

When people argue over organic and inorganic instruments. All instruments, synths and computers included, are real instruments.

I would say we were debating, not necessairly arguing. XD

 

[long gone 8,929]

Video game music is better than "actual" music.

[Twiliscael 3,960]

I would say we were debating, not necessairly arguing. XD

 

Not you in particular, it's happened in this thread countless times and it's happened all over the place any time that synthesizers or computer-generated music is discussed. Sorry if it sounded like I was targeting you... your posts just reminded me how much I hate it 

 

 

Video game music is better than "actual" music.

 

B-but video game music is real music  -_-

Edited February 4, 2014 by Twiliscael

[Away 2,077]

To reinstate what I said earlier in this thread, I believe music can only be called "good" or "bad" from a subjective standpoint. Here's a more in-depth look at why I believe this, taken from part of a message I sent to a YouTuber who reviews music:

 

"I am aware that one can form a list of qualifications that determines whether a piece of music is "good" or "bad". However, these qualifications, whatever they may be, are still based on opinion. In fact, I believe this goes for anything, not just music."

[Deesinn 393]

Dave Matthews Band is easily the best band performing live right now, people in Canada stone me for saying this.

 

I think that acoustic instruments take a lot more work and practice to master, and I think the skills you obtain from trying to master an acoustic instrument is more satisfying than programming a song, but either way they are both totally justifiable ways to produce music.  One is much cheaper and requires no knowledge on how to actually play, and the other is not cost effective, but I think it has a higher potential for creativity.  I think it's funner to learn the language of, for example, the drums and to be able to articulate what you want to play with your limbs rather than clicking bright squares to insert a snare drum or cymbal shots.  I also think that innovation comes from actually playing more of the time and not from programming because it's a totally different experience to actually be playing something physically and emotionally.  You're not going to get the next Tony Williams from sitting at a computer.   

Edited February 25, 2014 by Deesinn

[Frith is Magick 1,471]

Energy matters more than sound quality. I have heard a high quality studio recorded version of a song and a live performance of it recorded on either a phone or cheap camera. The high quality one obviously sounded better, but the poor sound quality version ended up being more enjoyable because gave off a better feel, if that makes sense.

[Away 2,077]

One is much cheaper and requires no knowledge on how to actually play, and the other is not cost effective, but I think it has a higher potential for creativity.  I think it's funner to learn the language of, for example, the drums and to be able to articulate what you want to play with your limbs rather than clicking bright squares to insert a snare drum or cymbal shots.  I also think that innovation comes from actually playing more of the time and not from programming because it's a totally different experience to actually be playing something physically and emotionally.  You're not going to get the next Tony Williams from sitting at a computer.

No. Just... no. I honestly hate these stereotypes of electronic music.

 

First of all, a lot of electronic music is not cheap to make. Depending on what you're shooting for, you need to buy certain software and equipment (not just a computer) which can really add up. There are still relatively cost-effective ways to make it, yes. But as with acoustic and amplified music as well, it varies based on what exactly you're trying to create.

 

Second, saying it requires no knowledge is completely incorrect. You still need to actually know how to use the software and equipment. And by the way, there are physical instruments that produce electronic music too: Keyboards, synthesizers, electronic drum kits... and you obviously need to learn how to play them too.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Zp2vIdZJA

 

Third, you can't really say that one has more overall potential than the other. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Electronics can manipulate sounds in ways that acoustic and amplified instruments can't. There's also sampling.

 

Making electronic music takes just as much knowledge, practice and creativity, if not more, than acoustic and amplified music.

Edited February 26, 2014 by LatinoChurro

[Deesinn 393]

No. Just... no. I honestly hate these stereotypes of electronic music.

 

First of all, a lot of electronic music is not cheap to make. Depending on what you're shooting for, you need to buy certain software and equipment (not just a computer) which can really add up. There are still relatively cost-effective ways to make it, yes. But as with acoustic and amplified music as well, it varies based on what exactly you're trying to create.

 

Second, saying it requires no knowledge is completely incorrect. You still need to actually know how to use the software and equipment. And by the way, there are physical instruments that produce electronic music too: Keyboards, synthesizers, electronic drum kits... and you obviously need to learn how to play them too.

 

 

Third, you can't really say that one has more overall potential than the other. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Electronics can manipulate sounds in ways that acoustic and amplified instruments can't. There's also sampling.

 

Making electronic music takes just as much knowledge, practice and creativity, if not more, than acoustic and amplified music.

 

Nah dude, 100-200 dollars for a 2 hour recording session to hire a good drummer vs shelling out the money for hardware and software?  It's infinity cheaper to purchase a drum machine plugin and use samples than it is to hire somebody, especially in the genres or Pop and Rock music in the long term.  We're not even talking a full band.  Any moron can learn how to program 4/4 grooves and fills when they don't have to actually play anything and painstakingly practice dynamics and muscle memory exercises for years upon years.  You can't even compare it, programming drums is just way cheaper in the long run, and is far less time consuming, period. 

 

Don't put words in my mouth, I never said it did not require knowledge or experience, but I am saying it is defiantly easier, for myself anyways. 

[Frith is Magick 1,471]

No matter how much time, effort, or skill goes into electronic music, it just won't have the same feel.

Generally (but not always) Live>video>studio recording>electronic.

[Away 2,077]

I never said it did not require knowledge

 

One is much cheaper and requires no knowledge on how to actually play

> k

 

Nah dude, 100-200 dollars for a 2 hour recording session to hire a good drummer vs shelling out the money for hardware and software?  It's infinity cheaper to purchase a drum machine plugin and use samples than it is to hire somebody, especially in the genres or Pop and Rock music in the long term.  We're not even talking a full band.  Any moron can learn how to program 4/4 grooves and fills when they don't have to actually play anything and painstakingly practice dynamics and muscle memory exercises for years upon years.  You can't even compare it, programming drums is just way cheaper in the long run, and is far less time consuming, period. 

I never said electronic music was as expensive to make. I was just saying that it isn't always as cheap as some people think.

 

Yes, any person can make electronic music with little mental effort. Just like how any person can pick up a guitar and write really amateurish songs.

 

No matter how much time, effort, or skill goes into electronic music, it just won't have the same feel.

Yes, and I'm happy about that. I like how they don't feel the same. Different is good.

[tehAgg 268]

How's this for an unpopular opinion?

I thoroughly enjoyed Judas Priest's "Turbo" and think it's a overall great album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfh_yifTK2E

[SharpWit 2,682]

I'm a proud supporter of both dubstep and classical.

 

I also don't dislike nickelback a whole lot. I'm not really a fan of theirs but I like some of their stuff

[Guest]

I hate anything that's getting too mainstreamed, such as this s**t:

 

[Discordian 6,015]

I'll probably have posted this by now but unlike 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999xinfinity% of the internet I don't hate rap and country. I actually think rap is an excellent addition to some genres. BRING ON THE NU-METAL.

Edited February 27, 2014 by Discordian

[Leavinh 313]

I will never understand how someone can only listen to one type or genre of music. Why would you limit yourself like that? You never know what you'll be inspired by.

 

I can't stand people who complain about "today's music" and say that "music was better back in *insert random decade*" or that "real music is dead" when that opinion is based on what is being played on the radio. Music you will like is still being made, you just need to stop being lazy and look for it. Look for artists on the internet, look for local artists of all genres in the hub of your city or in a city close to you, but if all that fails, learn an instrument and play what you would want to hear. Complaining does nothing if there isn't any action behind it.

 

I'm not going to deny that past decades had some awesome music, but to say that interesting, good music isn't still being made is just plain ignorant.

Edited February 27, 2014 by AyoMistadurrk