gaming Game Discussion: Is Skyrim a masterpiece or a train wreck?

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

In my opinion, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is one of the greatest RPG video games ever made. However, I can't deny that it does have bugs. A LOT of bugs. In fact, it's the only game that's ever crashed on my Xbox, even when both the system and game disk were in perfect condition.

But do the bugs make the game bad, or are they still not enough to get you to not enjoy the game?
Your call.

Edited July 30, 2013 by Stevenearthpony

[~Silver Essence~ 2,625]

Many games are stated as being the best ever made, the greatest of all time, and one of this best generations.

 

To me, I don't think there is a masterpiece or perfect video game in the world.

 

To better explain, the answer is in this video of what I mean.

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NK-HYNXdIJI

[silverreverb 129]

bugs alone do not make or break a game. sure if it continuously crashes the game, that's another matter. when you consider the millions of lines of code that go into make a triple A game, bugs are inevitable, even with patches

 

masterpiece? maybe not but I definitely had a lot fun with skyrim. its not a train wreck by far

[Discordian 6,015]

I'd say it's far from it. There's no doubt about it having some level of an expansive world and many characters but more often than not you'll meet at least ten characters in the same town who all say the exactly same thing. Then there's the fact that, in spite of their efforts to make more unique dungeons compared to Oblivion, you're still gonna run into the same textures, the same types of dungeons, etc. You will rarely ever see anything unique about anything in the game. Everything is FAR too plain in general.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I enjoy TES well enough but I don't feel the series has NEARLY enough style or variety in...well....anything. It's the definition of an expansive and solid game but it has little else to offer.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I guess it is an entertaining masterpiece but, there are a lot of other masterpieces in gaming other than Skyrim. So, we could give it a chance.

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

I guess it is an entertaining masterpiece but, there are a lot of other masterpieces in gaming other than Skyrim. So, we could give it a chance.

You should give it a chance. I think it's awesome, personally.

 

Many games are stated as being the best ever made, the greatest of all time, and one of this best generations.

 

To me, I don't think there is a masterpiece or perfect video game in the world.

 

To better explain, the answer is in this video of what I mean.

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NK-HYNXdIJI

Nostalgia Critic...

I now respect you infinitely.

 

I'd say it's far from it. There's no doubt about it having some level of an expansive world and many characters but more often than not you'll meet at least ten characters in the same town who all say the exactly same thing. Then there's the fact that, in spite of their efforts to make more unique dungeons compared to Oblivion, you're still gonna run into the same textures, the same types of dungeons, etc. You will rarely ever see anything unique about anything in the game. Everything is FAR too plain in general.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I enjoy TES well enough but I don't feel the series has NEARLY enough style or variety in...well....anything. It's the definition of an expansive and solid game but it has little else to offer.

Yeah. I agree. I don't think it's a masterpiece by any means, but I still think it's beyond awesome.

 

bugs alone do not make or break a game. sure if it continuously crashes the game, that's another matter. when you consider the millions of lines of code that go into make a triple A game, bugs are inevitable, even with patches

 

masterpiece? maybe not but I definitely had a lot fun with skyrim. its not a train wreck by far

Don't forget the fact that there are about a million side quests to do.

[Meirno 550]

I gotta say, Skyrim was a pretty good game. The Elder Scrolls usually are. But in no way is near the best game ever, or even in the top 50 for me. It's a good time killer, with a good main story and so many side stories I still question if I've completed them all. 

 

 

[Nerdy Luigi 2,065]

Far from so. The only AI i've seen made worse than in Skyrim is in Far Cry 2. I never really liked Elder Scrolls really. This game would not be in my top 100-200 maybe even if I decided to make that list.

[Darkshift 85]

I gotta say, Skyrim was a pretty good game. The Elder Scrolls usually are. But in no way is near the best game ever, or even in the top 50 for me. It's a good time killer, with a good main story and so many side stories I still question if I've completed them all.

 

Bet you couldn't honestly write all of your top 50 games that you've actually played and not mention skyrim.

Skyrim is an amazing game full of action and amazing storylines but what impressed me the most was obvious signs of hard work by the developers they put so much detail into the game (I mean come on you could read all the books)and when you get that much detail and hard work mixed with an immensely creative and fantasy land well you have a great game.

[John 793]

Its an excellent game, and it has in my opinion, great AI for an open world RPG.  Also, if you have it on PC, the Graphics are Amazing and there's plenty of Mods that can amplify this.  (Hell, they're great on Xbox too, so I can't complain.)  People tend to bitch about it because they get the game, turn on Godmode and then spoil everything for themselves.  I've been nerding it out and I still haven't beaten all of the quests and other things.  The trick for having fun is to do a lot and to earn everything.  Don't be a one dimensional cave-explorer and don't be a 100% quester.  Customize your abilities as you see fit.

[Mephala 2,633]

I play Morrowind as I personally liked it over Skyrim, but Skyrim isn't that bad. It generally gets a bad reputation because people play on Easy and then download a crapton of mods, so there's no challenge, and they complain about there being nothing to do. There are also people that overpraise it, which is just as bad. It's an excellent open world, but it isn't something that changed the gaming scene like Morrowind did. I think people also get mad because it's semi-realistic; the quests aren't over-the-top KILL OSAMA HITLER STALIN TENTACLE MONSTER WITH HIS EIGHT HUNDRED HENCHMEN quests, which, while they can be kind of fun, are mindless and kinda pointless. 

So yeah, it's not my favourite game, because I'm fond of ones with tons of story and characterization (like Grim Fandango), but it's a time killer, and it's fun as hell to snipe innocent bystanders with the bow or Fireball them off cliffs.

[John 793]

I play Morrowind as I personally liked it over Skyrim, but Skyrim isn't that bad. It generally gets a bad reputation because people play on Easy and then download a crapton of mods, so there's no challenge, and they complain about there being nothing to do. There are also people that overpraise it, which is just as bad. It's an excellent open world, but it isn't something that changed the gaming scene like Morrowind did. I think people also get mad because it's semi-realistic; the quests aren't over-the-top KILL OSAMA HITLER STALIN TENTACLE MONSTER WITH HIS EIGHT HUNDRED HENCHMEN quests, which, while they can be kind of fun, are mindless and kinda pointless. 

So yeah, it's not my favourite game, because I'm fond of ones with tons of story and characterization (like Grim Fandango), but it's a time killer, and it's fun as hell to snipe innocent bystanders with the bow or Fireball them off cliffs.

 

Yes, what this guy is saying is true too.  People really tend to put the game on easy or normal a lot and then beat every boss with ease.  Do you guys remember how hard the prieist with the Morokei was?  And on HARD!  Gahh!

 

Morrowind is nostalgic. 

Edited July 30, 2013 by John

[Discordian 6,015]

People play games like Elder Scrolls for challenge? I hardly see the point in that. It does nothing but make the game more tedious. The game is not made to challenge you in the first place. People seem to confuse the ability to overcome tedium with skill and playing on the hardest mode where all they do is destroy your health and not actually change the enemy behavior is not challenge, it's just tedium.

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

Yes, what this guy is saying is true too.  People really tend to put the game on easy or normal a lot and then beat every boss with ease.  Do you guys remember how hard the prieist with the Morokei was?  And on HARD!  Gahh!

Morrowind is nostalgic. 

I've never played Morrowind, actually. The only Elder Scroll games I've played are Daggarfall, Oblivion, and Skyrim. I heard Morrowind was good, though. I might give it a whirl sometime.

 

I play Morrowind as I personally liked it over Skyrim, but Skyrim isn't that bad. It generally gets a bad reputation because people play on Easy and then download a crapton of mods, so there's no challenge, and they complain about there being nothing to do. There are also people that overpraise it, which is just as bad. It's an excellent open world, but it isn't something that changed the gaming scene like Morrowind did. I think people also get mad because it's semi-realistic; the quests aren't over-the-top KILL OSAMA HITLER STALIN TENTACLE MONSTER WITH HIS EIGHT HUNDRED HENCHMEN quests, which, while they can be kind of fun, are mindless and kinda pointless. 

So yeah, it's not my favourite game, because I'm fond of ones with tons of story and characterization (like Grim Fandango), but it's a time killer, and it's fun as hell to snipe innocent bystanders with the bow or Fireball them off cliffs.

XD Yeah. Messing with the villagers is always fun.

[Zok 27]

I think it's a masterpiece. Anymore, all large open world games have bugs; that's just a consequence of being an open world game. 

[Super Derpy 535]

I love Skyrim. It is possibly my favorite game of all time. Yes it does have a good amount of bugs but they really don't stop the game from being fun.

[dishraglord 41]

I don't necessarily think it's a master piece especially with the repeteaded texture/dialogue, and more bugs then most games have in tow. However I love the game to death, the most fun part of the game for me was just making up challenges for myself. That's probably why I'm such a sucker for bethesda's open world rpg's because you can really get into them.

Edited July 31, 2013 by Huntailstrike

[MichaelxXxTrixie 433]

I think it's far from a masterpiece, it's simply a solid game. Generally all TES games are solid with good releases, however it didn't bring much to the table in my opinion when it comes to innovation. It brought the same style it has always been using. 

[An Old Head 4,816]

A fellow gamer at school very accurately described Skyrim as being "as wide as a lake, but as deep as a puddle".

 

Skyrim is neither a masterpiece or a train wreck. I think it's very overrated as it stands, but it doesn't detract from what makes the game good. The world, no doubt, is absolutely beautiful. Vast and expansive, with brilliant landscapes and skies, and coupled with the freedom of your player character and how you can go wherever you want to in this Nordic land. The graphics are awesome - superb job. The combat system is decent (they could've done better, but I understand the emphasis to be on exploration and lore) and they executed their DLC for the game pretty well.

 

However, while Elder Scrolls lore is pretty detailed and widespread, there's a distinct lack of charm in the whole contextualisation of this breathtaking landscape. You have your war with the Imperials and the Stormcloaks, each with unique predicaments and characters, but as much as it's well-written and intricately planned I never felt any genuine... intrigue. Conversations with both civilians and authoritarian figures left me dissatisfied, because one could never come out of a conversation caring for a character. You seemed to truly be by yourself, because all these NPCs and the way they present their cases come across as detractive or a hindrance to your free-world exploration. Not much would be lost from the game if they just removed every NPC from it.

 

Now, don't get me wrong, I had plenty of fun on Skyrim. But to get the most fun out of it, I'd highly recommend the Extra NPCs mod. These ones do add flair to the world of Skyrim as the world of Skyrim deserves so much. You care about these guys. Only works for the PC though - still, can't go wrong with it.

[Nobody Special 210]

If I can put over 500 hours into a game with no major problems, I would say it passes my test of approval. I had so much fun with skyrim, but masterpiece? I think not. There were those occasional bugs that would make you redo some of the game, a lot of the characters and storytelling were less than stellar, and the AI was just plain stupid. Could have it been better? Sure, but it was still a very good play.... or rather, overplay.

[Dr. Eggnog 203]

Heh, neither in my opinion.  It's just a fun game in a big world.  I do believe the graphics are pretty and the controls are much better than previous Elder Scrolls games.  It's on my top 50 games list, though not super high.

 

Many games are stated as being the best ever made, the greatest of all time, and one of this best generations.

 

To me, I don't think there is a masterpiece or perfect video game in the world.

I love that Nostalgia Critic video, but I believe that there are video game masterpieces.  Silent Hill 2 for example has a story that I love even more than any movie storyline I've seen.  To me, playing as the main character of a story can make it even better.

[DaReaper 1,945]

skyrim is no doubt a great game but all them dam bugs glitches and freezes kinda kill the fun, this is one of the few games i'll play through them though cause it's enjoyable

[Vinyl Scratch (Filly)™ 936]

I remember getting the game as it came out. I still play it. Does that show where my opinion stands on this matter? xD I have played it many times as every race and I still have fun playing it and it was even better when Dawnguard and Dragonborn came out :3