Will Hasbro C&D the entire fandom?

[RainbowPastel 185]

....will Hasbro take down all the creative side of the brony community, like all pony fanart, fan music, videos, websites, etc. I even read an article somewhere that Hasbro is even claiming copyright over "bronies" so it would be illegal to post anything MLP related anywhwere w/out being taken down, sued, or banned. Basically it will be illegal to be a brony or does Hasbro own us? I'm always reading about YT channels, custom businesses, videos, artwork, vectors, just being taken down due to copyright. I'm going to be in big trouble when that time comes and Hasbro sees all my pony content on the internet.

Edited June 18, 2014 by RainbowPastel

[Pinkamena-Pills 6,839]

 

 

Basically it will be illegal to be a brony?

 

Calm yourself my friend lol

 

Now im no legal expert,but from what i understand Hasbro is only taking down content that could be mistaken for the actual show. 

 

You'll be fine 

[Simon 4,557]

For the most part, Hasbro has left everything alone.  For whatever reason, there are certain fan projects they've taken actions against and sent Cease and Desist orders too but it doesn't happen often.  Even if you were to get a take down request, it doesn't mean you're going to be in any trouble... a take down request is just that... it's them asking you to take down the content.  Once you remove it from Youtube or whatever site it's on, there's no issue anymore. 

What it boils down to is don't worry about it, and if you get a take down request do what they ask so you don't have issues.  As long as you're not pirating, you'll be fine.

[Discordian 6,015]

To be a brony is to like the show and acknowledge that you are, in fact, a brony. All the other stuff is superfluous and not an inherent part of the definiton of a brony, more of a byproduct.

[Scootalove 10,689]

Hasbro is lenient with the fan projects, while some projects did receive Cease and Desist though it hasn't happened recently. For now, fan content has been off the radar from Hasbro.

 

If Hasbro did C&D the entire fandom, that would be a big mistake.

Edited June 18, 2014 by Scootalove

[Mephala 2,633]

I don't think classifying yourself as a brony is or ever will be illegal. That's stripping freedom rights, which America is pretty obsessed with. Also, being "illegal" would require the government to pass an actual law, and they don't care about that at all. .-.

Also, Hasbro cannot control people or claim rights for liking something, that is both impossible and absolutely insane in this day and age. .-. Makes no sense. You cannot "copyright" a person. Maybe the term, but not a person.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

I thought this topic was covered already. This horse has been beaten alive, dead, undead, and back again.

[Feather Grass 312]

In short no.

In long noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

 

I totally did not just quote Zero Punctuation.

Edited June 18, 2014 by Feather Grass

[Mae Borowski 356]

For the most part, Hasbro has left everything alone.  For whatever reason, there are certain fan projects they've taken actions against and sent Cease and Desist orders too but it doesn't happen often.  Even if you were to get a take down request, it doesn't mean you're going to be in any trouble... a take down request is just that... it's them asking you to take down the content.  Once you remove it from Youtube or whatever site it's on, there's no issue anymore. 

What it boils down to is don't worry about it, and if you get a take down request do what they ask so you don't have issues.  As long as you're not pirating, you'll be fine.

 

its mainly anything from the show itself, granted if you crop it just a lil you can bypass youtubes content ID...but other than that Hasbro hasnt done much...from what ive seen

[Khaoios 1,970]

If Hasbro C&D the brony fandom, they can kiss their money, good-bye.   Nuff said.  Yet, they will do as others have mentioned above me, most people will receive a take down request. 

 

Hasbro is lenient with the fan projects, while some projects did receive Cease and Desist though it hasn't happened recently. For now, fan content has been off the radar from Hasbro.

 

If Hasbro did C&D the entire fandom, that would be a big mistake.

 

Oh I agree...........all hell would break out on the fandom,

[Evil Nightmares 552]

Meh, I willing to go to jail for my artistic integrity. It's one of the few things left that i'm willing to fight for. So Hasbro can report, ban, and jail me. But i'll just use a shiv and carve pony drawings into other prisoners (assuming i'm not killed). But i doubt that they will go that far as to start removing all brony fan work (drawings, videos, ect....). It would be a very poor move on their part.

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

Yes, they would most certainly C&D a money spewing fandom, that gives them enough money to gold plate their boats.

And yes, they will certainly most likely try to break US law so that you cannot refer to yourself as a brony in any media, despite still not having specific rights to that word.

[Pinkamena-Pills 6,839]

Uhh,why was the title topic changed to something more silly?(no offense)

 

Hasbro C&D'ing the fandom??? That's like Facebook shutting down...their..face..part(??) 

 

My point is it would be beyond dumb. 

 

 

 

If Hasbro C&D the brony fandom, they can kiss their money, good-bye.   Nuff said.

 

 

Can this topic be locked now,please? It's not gonna happen.

[Shift 4,272]

Dude, if they got rid of the fandom, then there would be no show. I mean, would shows like Supernatural, Sherlock, Doctor Who, etc survive without fandoms? I just realized I named the tumblr big three...

 

But seriously, dude, it ain't gonna happen. Hasbro puts money first, and the fandom is money.

[Freewave 1,145]

Well there's some recent story from EQD about Hasbro removing monetization on pony material from people's youtube channels when they are pay channels. I dunno, I blame youtube for restrictions on copyright more than Hasbro at this point and for content makers trying to make a buck in that type of hostile environment. http://fimmusic.tumblr.com/post/89191410253/eqd-reports-pony-music-getting-targeted-with

 

If you make free pony content as usual you have little to worry about....

 

The sky is not falling but there's definitely people who should know better then thinking youtube is lawless and a way to get rich quick.

Edited June 18, 2014 by Freewave

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,161]

Well there's some recent story from EQD about Hasbro removing monetization on pony material from people's youtube channels when they are pay channels. I dunno, I blame youtube for restrictions on copyright more than Hasbro at this point and for content makers trying to make a buck in that type of hostile environment. http://fimmusic.tumblr.com/post/89191410253/eqd-reports-pony-music-getting-targeted-with

 

If you make free pony content as usual you have little to worry about....

 

The sky is not falling but there's definitely people who should know better then thinking youtube is lawless and a way to get rich quick.

 

THANK YOU! There are people going up-in-arms about this issue on Equestria Daily.

[Carbon Maestro 1,003]

 

Well there's some recent story from EQD about Hasbro removing monetization on pony material from people's youtube channels when they are pay channels. I dunno, I blame youtube for restrictions on copyright more than Hasbro at this point and for content makers trying to make a buck in that type of hostile environment.

 

I addressed this in another post here on the forums, and to be honest this content ID monetization has been going on since December 2013 baack when Youtube greatly expanded on Content ID to visual and audio content. To be honest, I don't think this has anything to do with Hasbro, but rather Youtube's Content ID system which has been around for months.

 

 

Here's a short description on Content ID. Content ID from a technical standpoint, it’s an audio and video fingerprinting system. Take an audio stream and cut it into a few bits, take the frequencies of a song and measures the data and puts them into bits. Take an audio stream and cut it into a few bits, take the frequencies of a song and measure all the data and put them into bits. Then it takes those bits and matches with the audio. If section after section has at least 50% of the audio as the same, then it’s likely a content ID match.

 

Content ID doesn’t make a distinction on the type of use whether or not it’s fair use. Companies on Youtube can either block things, or get all the advertising revenue.

 

Before with Multichannel networks, random people can upload anything and get credit, which is actually quite dangerous because there is little way to enforce it. Which is why after December, 2013, Youtube has changed its policy so that companies who are verified with Youtube can make details on whether to get ad revenue from such videos, or take down the videos.

 

Basically, Content ID is a system that favors the large organizations, multichannel networks, and companies. Hope that's informative, and as you can see, this whole thing has NOTHING to do with Hasbro C&Ding the fandom.

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

Well, they might not C&D the fandom, but I could see a pay to post pony feature in the future.

 

And I am confused as to how this happens, the work in the picture did not use sound, or images from mlp, but indirectly alluded to it. So since it contains no direct MLP works, I wonder how this whole situation arose.

[RainbowPastel 185]

Uhh,why was the title topic changed to something more silly?(no offense)

 

 

Hmm idk. I didn't do it. I think a moderator or something did it because another topic has a similar title? oh well

[The Crimson Cross 7,532]

I think the furthest Hasbro is going to go is to advertise on the creative brony art.

As far as I can recall, the C&Ds are only there when the art matches too closely to that in the show.

I don't really think Hasbro can claim bronies though! They'll have a tough time with that one anyway.

 

If we thought the C&D uproar was bad, just imagine what it would be like.

[Silver Letter 1,832]

 

 

I even read an article somewhere that Hasbro is even claiming copyright over "bronies" so it would be illegal to post anything MLP related anywhwere w/out being taken down, sued, or banned

I would guess that if they do that then they really do hate bronies. I personally don't understand them. Why hate people that puts bits in their pockets?

[Freewave 1,145]

RainbowPastel, on 18 Jun 2014 - 2:39 PM, said:I even read an article somewhere that Hasbro is even claiming copyright over "bronies" so it would be illegal to post anything MLP related anywhwere w/out being taken down, sued, or banned

I would guess that if they do that then they really do hate bronies. I personally don't understand them. Why hate people that puts bits in their pockets?

 

People really need to stop knee jerk reacting to "somebody told me that" stories. People really need to be better informed on what's occurring before they weight in or believe what's told to them. The Bronies thing was actually a joke made on Horse News and Hasbro has been VERY supportive of Bronies and flexible on copyright so far.

[Shanks 10,816]

Okay time to throw a bucket of cold water on this panic party. Yes Hasbro has C&D'd stuff and there may be some projects in the future that get C&D'd and it sucks that this happens but much of this is because of the messed up ways that copyright/patent laws work. Legally Hasbro has to meet certain minimum requirements to show they are protecting their patent otherwise they lose it, but Hasbro also knows that a lot of fanworks are good free advertizing for them.

 

Because of this Hasbro has been much more lenient of fanworks than other companies who have aggressively gone after every fanwork they could possibly find, they allow most fanworks to exist while only going after the ones that directly threaten their patent. If you are going to be angry at someone than be angry at these companies who buy off these policies and pass these ridiculous laws take a huge crap on the 1st amendment and give big corporations and unfair advantage. Getting mad at Hasbro is not going to change anything, what will is changing these laws which will not be easy but is something that needs to be done.

 

Hasbro is never going to go so far as to bar all fanworks, even if they wanted to they couldn't possibly do that. The sheer amount of costs of lawyers, subpeonas and other expenses will bog them so far down that it could ruin them.

[Silver Letter 1,832]

People really need to stop knee jerk reacting to "someone told me that" stories. People really need to be better informed on what's occurring before they weight in or believe what's told to them. The Bronies thing was actually a joke made on Horse News and Hasbro has been VERY supportive of Bronies and flexible on copyright so far.

Well, that's good then. I hope Hasbro does not do anything to attack their unconventional fans.

[baltoist 303]

I would still be a brony if it was illegal.