SaburoDaimando 1,196 August 14, 2014 #26 Share August 14, 2014 A lack of a character that they can use as a chew toy character and have him voiced by Scott McNeil.(Just like Waspinator) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everleaf 541 August 14, 2014 #27 Share August 14, 2014 (edited) The theme.....okay okay don't get me wrong I kind of like it but if there is ANYTHING I like least it IS the theme it has been here for 4 seasons though season 1 to season 2 it's fine but today it does not really fit the show so well..... I understand that the theme was more or less aimed for younger fans (as MLP was in the first place) and I don't mind it being a little girly but it needs to be slightly more fitting to the show I do not (HATE) the theme I just like it least nothing more.... Edited August 14, 2014 by Everleaf The deepest of the Everfree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Letter 1,832 August 14, 2014 #28 Share August 14, 2014 I like the theme song... Especially the extended version....c'mon...who can admit that they like that version at least? What I don't like is that the animation is not as good as it should. Sure, past episodes were riddled with animation errors as thick as flies around a pile of fruit, but by season 4, they should have done enough to be able to avoid 99% of errors by now. They need to try harder or there needs to be more time between seasons. Maybe it would be best if season 5 came out in 2015 instead of late fall. Silver Letter!!! Silver Letter's MLP collection Have: 946 https://data.mlpmerch.com/checklist/180/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklingSquirrels 21,358 August 14, 2014 #29 Share August 14, 2014 Besides the theme song (which is okay IMO) I'll say Cadance and Shining Armor. I feel like they don't have enough flaws/development, and also that they came out of nowhere. I think the show can do better than that! ֍֎֍֎ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostfacekiller39 23,860 August 14, 2014 #30 Share August 14, 2014 The fandom, easily. It's one of the most toxic and intolerant communities I've ever been a part of - cold, unfeeling, and just plain disrespectful to one another, and it honestly just feels as if it tries so hard to hate things about the show it "loves", and I use that word loosely since I'm under the impression most people are in it just because of the attention they'd get for being a fan of the show. That's just an impression, though, so don't take that as fact. I'll never forget joining it, all ready and excited, fresh off of a watch through of the entire series + EQG and immediately getting harassed because of my best pony, in the form of scat porn and lolicon spamming the fuck out of my e-mail account. My junk folder still has 2,000+ unread messages because of that. I won't forget being surrounded by hate and feelings of loneliness and despair because of you people's intolerance towards things that are different. I am a brony, but only by definition. I do NOT like the fandom. It is cold, unwelcoming, intolerant, and just flat out mean spirited. Am I evil? Yes I am, but the fandom has made me that way - at least in terms of how I associate with other members. I'd defend Rarity and get warned for abusive behavior because of how harsh I got, and it really didn't bother me to shoot down someone for trying to change the subject to their personal problems. I have no remorse for my actions back then, and I won't be feeling apologetic anytime soon. While I only defend Rarity when I feel the need arises now, and I'm a lot less cold and harsh about it, I really think I'd be a much happier person if I was able to feel I could be different and enjoy what I enjoy without worrying the fandom at large will persecute me for being different. It's gotten to the point where I don't really care anymore, though. I'm going to enjoy what I enjoy, and fuck what everyone else thinks, pardon my language. 2 He who is Positively Obsessed With All Things Rarity!!! Check out the Rarity Fan Club! "Not everyone who is pretty is necessarily beautiful. For those two to come together is truly a Rarity" -Jacob G. Rosenberg Signature by @FadedSkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGG 176 August 14, 2014 #31 Share August 14, 2014 number 1: everything in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliash147 159 August 14, 2014 #32 Share August 14, 2014 On 2014-08-14 at 5:41 PM, ghostfacekiller39 said: The fandom, easily. It's one of the most toxic and intolerant communities I've ever been a part of - cold, unfeeling, and just plain disrespectful to one another, and it honestly just feels as if it tries so hard to hate things about the show it "loves", and I use that word loosely since I'm under the impression most people are in it just because of the attention they'd get for being a fan of the show. That's just an impression, though, so don't take that as fact. I'll never forget joining it, all ready and excited, fresh off of a watch through of the entire series + EQG and immediately getting harassed because of my best pony, in the form of scat porn and lolicon spamming the fuck out of my e-mail account. My junk folder still has 2,000+ unread messages because of that. I won't forget being surrounded by hate and feelings of loneliness and despair because of you people's intolerance towards things that are different. I am a brony, but only by definition. I do NOT like the fandom. It is cold, unwelcoming, intolerant, and just flat out mean spirited. Am I evil? Yes I am, but the fandom has made me that way - at least in terms of how I associate with other members. I'd defend Rarity and get warned for abusive behavior because of how harsh I got, and it really didn't bother me to shoot down someone for trying to change the subject to their personal problems. I have no remorse for my actions back then, and I won't be feeling apologetic anytime soon. While I only defend Rarity when I feel the need arises now, and I'm a lot less cold and harsh about it, I really think I'd be a much happier person if I was able to feel I could be different and enjoy what I enjoy without worrying the fandom at large will persecute me for being different. It's gotten to the point where I don't really care anymore, though. I'm going to enjoy what I enjoy, and fuck what everyone else thinks, pardon my language. Seems you.... dislike the fandom Well, uhhh, you see, ummm, other fandoms have people who are the exact same also Quote It's one of the most toxic and intolerant communities I've ever been a part of Uhhh yeah im gonna take that as an insult https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9GfEgXyccqjZoHYouVVhYg Aiwannas and maybe some pony stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest August 14, 2014 #33 Share August 14, 2014 (edited) We need more Celestia! "Don't worry, I'm sure the writers will give me my own episode eventually" "THEY BETTER!!!" Edited August 14, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostfacekiller39 23,860 August 14, 2014 #34 Share August 14, 2014 On 2014-08-14 at 5:48 PM, Eliash147 said: Uhhh yeah im gonna take that as an insult I'm sorry you feel that way. Just because I feel the community at large is terrible doesn't mean that I hate everyone in it - and I certainly don't dislike you, since I've never even seen you before. Unfortunately, I'm gonna stick by my guns because of the way it was post-S3. It's gotten a bit better, but not a lot, and the way I felt targeted and harassed upon joining is something that's stuck to me for almost a year now, and from what I see, all of the charitable deeds in the world won't make up for the fact there's an absurd amount of infighting. The hurt I see only helps to compound these feelings of negativity. 3 He who is Positively Obsessed With All Things Rarity!!! Check out the Rarity Fan Club! "Not everyone who is pretty is necessarily beautiful. For those two to come together is truly a Rarity" -Jacob G. Rosenberg Signature by @FadedSkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathstroke 1,564 August 14, 2014 #35 Share August 14, 2014 (edited) I guess the fandom? It's one weird crappy fandom I've seen shit in fandoms but the brony community takes the shit Edited August 14, 2014 by Deathstroke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King 5,625 August 14, 2014 #36 Share August 14, 2014 Personally, the main thing I dislike about the show is actually the lack of references to things such as disabilities (even though this has finally been fixed), gay marriage and other such hot topics that are apart of our modern society. I understand this is a kids show, but these kids are growing up in a modern society and such issues WILL effect them eventually. Why not start now by introducing these themes to them? On 2014-08-14 at 5:41 PM, ghostfacekiller39 said: The fandom, easily. Honestly I completely understand where you're coming from, however, I don't feel the fandom deserves to be anyone's most hated thing about FiM. The fandom has a number of members who are questionable, who make the larger portion of us look bad. But you can't judge the many on the actions of the few. That would be like me accusing all Middle Eastern men with beards of being terrorists due to the actions of only a few.This fandom has granted many of us numerous friends, its granted us help through hard times, It's given us this a community of mostly fantastic, like minded people. If you feel the fandom is the worst thing about FiM, then perhaps you need to step back a bit and give this some serious thought.Those who cause trouble, who troll, who abuse, who act in extremely inappropriate ways are of the very few, but their actions speak much louder then the majority of us who are genuinely good people. Don't judge us all from the actions of these people. 4 Goddamn right, you should be scared of me Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discordian 6,015 August 14, 2014 #37 Share August 14, 2014 I hate that the writers like to shove the cast into very bland versions of the most basic portions of their character design for the sake of fanservice and plot. You get characters that will spend entire episodes doing one thing repeatedly even if it has absolutely nothing to do with what's going on and totally disregards any past episodes, some where they might have learned lessons about improving that portion of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastel 7,630 August 14, 2014 #38 Share August 14, 2014 (edited) On 2014-08-14 at 5:58 PM, Dawn Rider said: Personally, the main thing I dislike about the show is actually the lack of references to things such as disabilities (even though this has finally been fixed), gay marriage and other such hot topics that are apart of our modern society. I understand this is a kids show, but these kids are growing up in a modern society and such issues WILL effect them eventually. Why not start now by introducing these themes to them? Seeing what happened to Derpy, I don't think that'll be possible... Edited August 14, 2014 by Blobulle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliash147 159 August 14, 2014 #39 Share August 14, 2014 (edited) On 2014-08-14 at 6:04 PM, Blobulle said: Seeing what happened to Derpy, I don't think that'll be possible... They could use scootaloo And that was only because a bunch of parents bitched about it Edited August 14, 2014 by Eliash147 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9GfEgXyccqjZoHYouVVhYg Aiwannas and maybe some pony stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,866 August 14, 2014 #40 Share August 14, 2014 On 2014-08-14 at 6:04 PM, Blobulle said: Seeing what happened to Derpy, I don't think that'll be possible... They came pretty close with Scoots, and I'm on the fence these days about wanting her to fly because of the message it would send if she can't. Also how Dash and her deal with it would flat out be a good lesson for any child struggling with that. DR has a point about trying to tackle social issues head on. Death, poverty, disability, the right to be different and not be judged all are great storytelling themes that would work in children's television. They have before. I think the Derpy backlash just caught everyone off guard ... there and with the fans. If I was part of the fandom back then, I would have been right with the Derpy fans pushing for her return. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostfacekiller39 23,860 August 14, 2014 #41 Share August 14, 2014 On 2014-08-14 at 5:58 PM, Dawn Rider said: Honestly I completely understand where you're coming from, however, I don't feel the fandom deserves to be anyone's most hated thing about FiM. The fandom has a number members who are questionable, who make the larger portion of us look bad. But you can't judge the many on the actions of the few. That would be like me accusing all Middle Eastern men with beards of being terrorists due to the actions of the very few. This fandom has granted many of us numerous friends, its granted us help through hard times, It's given us this a community of mostly fantastic, like minded people. If you feel the fandom is the worst thing about FiM in general, then perhaps you need to step back a bit and give this some serious thought. Those who cause trouble, who troll, who abuse, who act in extremely inappropriate ways are of the very few, but their actions speak much louder then the majority of us who are genuinely good people. Don't judge us all from the actions of these people. I think you have to look at it through a different pair of lenses to see where I'm coming from. Imagine joining the fandom. Young, a bit excited - only to feel like an outcast immediately upon joining. I do acknowledge that there's good here, too. I've made a lot of my greatest friends through this fandom, but the toxicity it radiates is blatant. Whether it's the constant bickering that I initially hated but grew into just joining in, or the fact everywhere I looked there seemed to be a group of bronies just attacking and defacing the thing I loved most in life and, in turn, myself and the rest of her fans, is something I will NOT forget very easily, especially since it's only been pacified as opposed to freed of. Heh - one of the things I remember about joining this fandom was, during my first couple of days on this site, there was a swarm of anti-Rarity topics as well as a topic saying AJ needed to be killed off entirely that was allowed to go on for 150 or so replies before getting shut down, but then stumbling upon a topic bashing RD that was locked after 7 replies - the reason given was "this has too much potential for a flame war and Dashie gets enough hate." Even this site isn't safe from this sort of thing, because that's only recently started to change to being more fair and ultimately for the better. Now, there's a lot of good in this fandom. I've had a lot of fun in it, and I often find myself swinging back and forth in my chair and giggling like an idiot talking to my friends on Skype and what not, and the artistic and creative output of this fandom is insane. I can't let go of that "us against the world" feeling, though, because that's how it really was at one point and it feels like it's always going to be that way. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I still can't help but hold a bit of a grudge towards the fandom at large - mostly in a form of not being very sociable and a bit nervous to communicate over all else. I guess I'm just paranoid, but really, I can't blame myself for it. Always nervous about what's going to happen next in this fandom. 3 He who is Positively Obsessed With All Things Rarity!!! Check out the Rarity Fan Club! "Not everyone who is pretty is necessarily beautiful. For those two to come together is truly a Rarity" -Jacob G. Rosenberg Signature by @FadedSkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastel 7,630 August 14, 2014 #42 Share August 14, 2014 (edited) On 2014-08-14 at 6:06 PM, Eliash147 said: And that was only because a bunch of parents bitched about itYeah, but they took that very seriously, which was stupid... -_- On 2014-08-14 at 6:09 PM, Jeric said: They came pretty close with Scoots, and I'm on the fence these days about wanting her to fly because of the message it would send if she can't. Also how Dash and her deal with it would flat out be a good lesson for any child struggling with that. DR has a point about trying to tackle social issues head on. Death, poverty, disability, the right to be different and not be judged all are great storytelling themes that would work in children's television. They have before. I think the Derpy backlash just caught everyone off guard ... there and with the fans. If I was part of the fandom back then, I would have been right with the Derpy fans pushing for her return.Yes I'm 100% sure Scootaloo will fly eventually. I also agree with , but unfortunately, I don't think they'll tackle these issues in the show... EDIT: I'm not sure that the fandom complaining about the parents' letters would have changed anything. Edited August 14, 2014 by Blobulle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Testa 5,505 August 14, 2014 #43 Share August 14, 2014 (edited) Plot holes and stilted conflict that can only be chalked up to bad or rushed writing is my least favorite thing in the show. I can rock out to the opening theme though Edited August 14, 2014 by Buck Testa http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Billy%20G%20Gruff http://billyggruff.deviantart.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPVpSXbUpDYTcaFHTPiPjYA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliash147 159 August 14, 2014 #44 Share August 14, 2014 On 2014-08-14 at 6:13 PM, ghostfacekiller39 said: I think you have to look at it through a different pair of lenses to see where I'm coming from. Imagine joining the fandom. Young, a bit excited - only to feel like an outcast immediately upon joining. I do acknowledge that there's good here, too. I've made a lot of my greatest friends through this fandom, but the toxicity it radiates is blatant. Whether it's the constant bickering that I initially hated but grew into just joining in, or the fact everywhere I looked there seemed to be a group of bronies just attacking and defacing the thing I loved most in life and, in turn, myself and the rest of her fans, is something I will NOT forget very easily, especially since it's only been pacified as opposed to freed of. Heh - one of the things I remember about joining this fandom was, during my first couple of days on this site, there was a swarm of anti-Rarity topics as well as a topic saying AJ needed to be killed off entirely that was allowed to go on for 150 or so replies before getting shut down, but then stumbling upon a topic bashing RD that was locked after 7 replies - the reason given was "this has too much potential for a flame war and Dashie gets enough hate." Even this site isn't safe from this sort of thing, because that's only recently started to change to being more fair and ultimately for the better. Now, there's a lot of good in this fandom. I've had a lot of fun in it, and I often find myself swinging back and forth in my chair and giggling like an idiot talking to my friends on Skype and what not, and the artistic and creative output of this fandom is insane. I can't let go of that "us against the world" feeling, though, because that's how it really was at one point and it feels like it's always going to be that way. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I still can't help but hold a bit of a grudge towards the fandom at large - mostly in a form of not being very sociable and a bit nervous to communicate over all else. I guess I'm just paranoid, but really, I can't blame myself for it. Always nervous about what's going to happen next in this fandom. Okay so im not gonna take this personally because this is clearly a personal experience All im gonna say is Those people a small but their impact is large https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9GfEgXyccqjZoHYouVVhYg Aiwannas and maybe some pony stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,866 August 14, 2014 #45 Share August 14, 2014 @ghostfacekiller39, while I don't share the level of distrust toward the fandom as a whole (I wonder if that is more because I'm still new, or my optimistic naiveté), but I can say that when I first wanted to share my views on the show with other fans I went to YouTube. Holding a constructive discussion was difficult to say the least. Equestria Daily was even worse at times. By the time I came here I saw a generally tame atmosphere (I mean that in a positive way). There did (and still does) seem to be a lot more of favorite character pissing contests than I personally prefer. That is one of the things I decided I could live with back in April. I also get one other thing, there is a difference between my affinity for our shared fav and yours. I'm getting way off topic, but the closest that I can come up with taking me to the level of frustration you feel would be to imagine constantly hear people telling me that my wife or kids were horrible. I wouldn't associate with those people anymore. If I'm not off base with that comparison, I actually think it speaks highly that you still found a home here. But that's just me ... rose colored glasses and all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orablanco Account 3,707 August 14, 2014 #46 Share August 14, 2014 If I could change but one thing, I'd make the show less focused on Twilight and more on the group as a whole. It's been getting a bit redundant with Twilight being the ultimate hero in almost every two-parter/story arc/whatever. 3 Onwards to my DeviantArt page! Sig by the illustrious Kyoshi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,464 August 14, 2014 #47 Share August 14, 2014 (edited) On 2014-08-14 at 5:41 PM, ghostfacekiller39 said: I'd defend Rarity and get warned for abusive behavior because of how harsh I got, and it really didn't bother me to shoot down someone for trying to change the subject to their personal problems. I have no remorse for my actions back then, and I won't be feeling apologetic anytime soon. When you claim how various bronies trolled you when you first delved into it and then acted out abusively, then there are at least two things people think. It makes them not believe you. Regardless of your past transgressions, there's no excuse for abusive behavior. They may care about what happened back then, but they want to see how you respond to make yourself look better than them. When you don't, you're telling people there may be more to the backstory even if you're telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. When you willfully attack others because you know how past actions hurt you, it doesn't make you look better than them. In fact, it makes you look just as bad as the people who bullied you (or perhaps even worse than them) because you know how the pain feels and want to inflict it upon others, especially if they had nothing to do with your introduction to one of the fandom's cores. No one tolerates hypocrisy. On 2014-08-14 at 5:41 PM, ghostfacekiller39 said: Am I evil? Yes I am, but the fandom has made me that way - at least in terms of how I associate with other members. What the trolls did weren't right. In fact, what they did was very, very cruel, and it's disgusting. They deserve scorn for what they did. But that doesn't excuse how you act to others after this. If there's one thing you should never do, it's scapegoat them for your future actions and attitude. It's obvious the trolling got under your skin and still hasn't gone away. It's easier said than done, but one of the best ways to get revenge is to ignore the trolls and look better than them. If you still have that Rarity bashing junk in your mail, don't even bother opening it; laugh it off and delete them. Your email will feel much freer without hoarding the clutter. Edited August 14, 2014 by Dark Qiviut "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orablanco Account 3,707 August 14, 2014 #48 Share August 14, 2014 On 2014-08-14 at 5:44 PM, twistedmetalero said: number 1: everything in it Also, kind of off-topic, but I also disagree with the idea that the fandom is the worst part of the show. No, it isn't 100% sparkly rainbows and dudes holding hands and singing the praises of every single decision made by the show's staff in harmonious unison, and there are turd bags out there screwing things up for people, just like every fandom ever, but I really do feel as though bronydom's existence is very worthwhile. Onwards to my DeviantArt page! Sig by the illustrious Kyoshi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJLeeTeam 914 August 14, 2014 #49 Share August 14, 2014 I actually like the theme song and grows on me the more I hear it. I'm surprised a lot of you said the theme song was your least favorite part. For me I feel like there's not enough backstory to some of the new characters that get introduced especially the villains. And I also there should of been more backstory on the Crystal Empire. My blog post on Starting Fresh with MLP:FiM: https://mlpforums.com/blog/2076/entry-16988-im-starting-fresh-with-mlp-fim/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Cold Applejack 381 August 14, 2014 Author #50 Share August 14, 2014 On 2014-08-14 at 5:58 PM, Dawn Rider said: Honestly I completely understand where you're coming from, however, I don't feel the fandom deserves to be anyone's most hated thing about FiM. The fandom has a number of members who are questionable, who make the larger portion of us look bad. But you can't judge the many on the actions of the few. That would be like me accusing all Middle Eastern men with beards of being terrorists due to the actions of only a few. This fandom has granted many of us numerous friends, its granted us help through hard times, It's given us this a community of mostly fantastic, like minded people. If you feel the fandom is the worst thing about FiM, then perhaps you need to step back a bit and give this some serious thought. Those who cause trouble, who troll, who abuse, who act in extremely inappropriate ways are of the very few, but their actions speak much louder then the majority of us who are genuinely good people. Don't judge us all from the actions of these people. I love how you said all that On 2014-08-14 at 6:13 PM, ghostfacekiller39 said: I think you have to look at it through a different pair of lenses to see where I'm coming from. Imagine joining the fandom. Young, a bit excited - only to feel like an outcast immediately upon joining. I do acknowledge that there's good here, too. I've made a lot of my greatest friends through this fandom, but the toxicity it radiates is blatant. Whether it's the constant bickering that I initially hated but grew into just joining in, or the fact everywhere I looked there seemed to be a group of bronies just attacking and defacing the thing I loved most in life and, in turn, myself and the rest of her fans, is something I will NOT forget very easily, especially since it's only been pacified as opposed to freed of. Heh - one of the things I remember about joining this fandom was, during my first couple of days on this site, there was a swarm of anti-Rarity topics as well as a topic saying AJ needed to be killed off entirely that was allowed to go on for 150 or so replies before getting shut down, but then stumbling upon a topic bashing RD that was locked after 7 replies - the reason given was "this has too much potential for a flame war and Dashie gets enough hate." Even this site isn't safe from this sort of thing, because that's only recently started to change to being more fair and ultimately for the better. Now, there's a lot of good in this fandom. I've had a lot of fun in it, and I often find myself swinging back and forth in my chair and giggling like an idiot talking to my friends on Skype and what not, and the artistic and creative output of this fandom is insane. I can't let go of that "us against the world" feeling, though, because that's how it really was at one point and it feels like it's always going to be that way. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I still can't help but hold a bit of a grudge towards the fandom at large - mostly in a form of not being very sociable and a bit nervous to communicate over all else. I guess I'm just paranoid, but really, I can't blame myself for it. Always nervous about what's going to happen next in this fandom. Damn man. You had it rough huh? But like everyone else is saying there is bad in the fandom. And about those anti-Rarity topics just ignore them. They will stop. And who's the son of a bitch that started that AJ kill off topic? 2 TRULY YOURS, YOUR BIGGEST FAN. THIS IS STAN. My OC Red Sage: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/red-sage-r7570 My OC Storm Line: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/storm-line-r7989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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