gaming Is Nintendo irrelevant?

[Silver Herald 169]

I'm baffled as to how you asked this question directly after their biggest release of the year, which sold 1m copies worldwide on its opening weekend. .-.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

I'm baffled as to how you asked this question directly after their biggest release of the year, which sold 1m copies worldwide on its opening weekend. .-.

You mean Destiny?

 

that got a 76 on gamerankings?

 

yeah.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

...which they would go out of business in.

 

(IF playstation didn't exist)

While I do not believe that Sony is in imminent danger, they are finding themselves outpaced by the likes of Samsung and Apple in consumer electronics.

 

There is no doubt significant changes need to occur, if Sharp and Panasonic's restructuring are any indication. Selling off their ailing Vaio business and spinning off Bravia are just two examples.

 

They still have significant foothold in the entertainment and music businesses but understandably they cannot rely on any one division alone, that includes PlayStation.

 

But, back on topic

 

Nintendo has tons of money and only needs to focus on games. It's what they do.

 

Sony needs to focus on restructuring to stay competitive.

 

Microsoft actually tried to buy Nintendo back in 1999 so there's that.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

While I do not believe that Sony is in imminent danger, they are finding themselves outpaced by the likes of Samsung and Apple in consumer electronics.

 

There is no doubt significant changes need to occur, if Sharp and Panasonic's restructuring are any indication. Selling off their ailing Vaio business and spinning of Bravia are just two examples.

 

They still have significant foothold in the entertainment and music businesses but understandably they cannot rely on any one division alone, that includes PlayStation.

 

But, back on topic

 

Nintendo has tons of money and only needs to focus on games. It's what they do.

 

Sony needs to focus on restructuring to stay competitive.

 

Microsoft actually tried to buy Nintendo back in 1999 so there's that.

microsoft teamed up with sega once.

 

it was called dreamcast.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

microsoft teamed up with sega once.

 

it was called dreamcast.

They were close to buying them out too, then decided that Sega wouldn't be able to compete with Sony.

 

Can't imagine why they'd think that with what a runaway success the 32X, Nomad, Saturn were.

[Twilight Dirac 721]

I honestly don't know why Nintendo even makes consoles anymore?  The handhelds I can understand but with terrible third party support all Nintendo's other systems do is run Nintendo's software.  Now personally I don't think Nintendo has made anything worthwhile in a decade, but a lot of people swear by their games.  Those same people will admit, however, that Nintendo's hardware is underpowered and I don't see anybody swearing by the massive array of hardware gimmicks Nintendo keeps on coming out with.  It seems to me that they should just drop non-handheld consoles all together and just produce their games for the X-box, Playstation and PC.  The market would be much bigger and console users would need to own one fewer console to run their games.

Edited February 12, 2015 by Twilight Dirac

[Lankman 86]

What sold 1 million word wide on it's first weekend?

[Megas 27,676]

What sold 1 million word wide on it's first weekend?

Super Smash Bros for the 3DS

[Lankman 86]

LOL, you actually think Nintendo going third party is just going to magically fix all Nintendo's problems?, how did that work out for Sega?

 

Nobody cares about Nintendo's games on the other consoles, the other consoles are filled with people that only buy shooters and won't buy anything that isn't in a first person point of view.

 

Nintendo will have to make massive lay-offs because after all, Nintendo will no longer have any need for producing hardware.

 

also, don't forget the royalty fees, as a third party, Nintendo will have to split their profit between Microsoft and Sony, cutting the companies profits significantly.

 

speaking of cutting hardware, Nintendo will not be familiar with the hardware sony and Microsoft are making, and will cost a lot of money to hire a bunch of new talent, the former takes time, and the latter requires money, and also, let's not forget, that Nintendo's on the clock here, so if they are not making games, they are not making money, in fact, Nintendo will lose money, and shareholders will not be pleased.

 

Nintendo will have to focus on Mario and Zelda only, those are their big sellers, because their other franchises are not huge sellers, pikmin, Metroid, rhythm heaven etc..., Nintendo will stick to what sells, yep, Mario and Zelda, they will rely on those franchises to survive.

 

If Nintendo went third party, they will not be as risky.

Edited October 16, 2014 by Lankman

[A Black Circle 1,586]

I honestly don't know why Nintendo even makes consoles anymore?  The handhelds I can understand but with terrible third party support all Nintendo's other systems do is run Nintendo's software.  Now personally I don't think Nintendo hasn't made anything worthwhile in a decade, but a lot of people swear by their games.  Those same people will admit, however, that Nintendo's hardware is underpowered and I don't see anybody swearing by the massive array of hardware gimmicks Nintendo keeps on coming out with.  It seems to me that they should just drop non-handheld consoles all together and just produce their games for the X-box, Playstation and PC.  The market would be much bigger and console users would need to own one fewer console to run their games.

Super Smash Bros Brawl?

Super Mario Galaxy?

Zelda?

Everything Coming?

 

...

LOL, you actually think Nintendo going third party is just going to magically fix all Nintendo's problems?, how did that work out for Sega?

 

Nobody cares about Nintendo's games on the other consoles, the other consoles are filled with people that only buy shooters and won't buy anything that isn't in a first person point of view.

 

Nintendo will have to make massive lay-offs because after all, Nintendo will no longer have any need for producing hardware.

 

also, don't forget the royalty fees, as a third party, Nintendo will have to split their profit between Microsoft and Sony, cutting the companies profits significantly.

 

speaking of cutting hardware, Nintendo will not be familiar with the hardware sony and Microsoft are making, and will cost a lot of money to hire a bunch of new talent, the former takes time, and the latter requires money, and also, let's not forget, that Nintendo's on the clock here, so if they are not making games, they are not making money, in fact, Nintendo will lose money, and shareholders will not be pleased.

 

Nintendo will have to focus on Mario and Zelda only, those are their big sellers, because their other franchises are not huge sellers, pikmin, Metroid, rhythm heaven etc..., Nintendo will stick to what sells, yep, Mario and Zelda, they will rely on those franchises to survive.

 

If Nintendo went third party, they will not be as risky.

Watch Dogs is third person, and that game is GOOD

 

And, Sega.

[Lankman 86]

Honestly, People that want Nintendo to go third party are living a fantasy, thinking everything will be just fine, that sounds like a fan-boys wet dream more than anything.

Dude, all those title you listed are on the Wii, not Wii U, lets make a list of upcoming games.

-Splatoon

-Devil's third

-Star fox U

-Legend of Zelda U

-Mario maker

-Sonic boom

-Yoshi's woolly world

-Kirby and the rainbow curse

-Super smash bros Wii U

-bayonetta 2

-Captain toad treasure tracker

 

there, that's much better.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

Honestly, People that want Nintendo to go third party are living a fantasy, thinking everything will be just fine, that sounds like a fan-boys wet dream more than anything.

Dude, all those title you listed are on the Wii, not Wii U, lets make a list of upcoming games.

-Splatoon

-Devil's third

-Star fox U

-Legend of Zelda U

-Mario maker

-Sonic boom

-Yoshi's woolly world

-Kirby and the rainbow curse

-Super smash bros Wii U

-bayonetta 2

-Captain toad treasure tracker

 

there, that's much better.

Splatoon is TF2 but better

Devil's third, never heard of

Star Fox U - is that confirmed?

Zelda U - so excited you have no idea

Mario Maker - ehh

Sonic Boom - ehh

Yoshi's Woolly World - ehh

Kirby - yay

SSBB - YEAAH

bayonetta 2 - f yea

Captain Toad - idk

[Lankman 86]

Yeah, not really interested in Sonic Boom myself, but I will still buy it, because it's sonic, and I grew up with Sonic, maybe it might be good, who knows.

[Twilight Dirac 721]

 

 

Super Smash Bros Brawl? Super Mario Galaxy? Zelda? Everything Coming?

 

Brawl - I liked the original the best, I have never been impressed with the sequels.

Super Mario Galaxy - I got bored with the N64 one before I even finished that.

Zelda - They are all the same, if you played one you played them all.  About the only ones that even attempt to tread new ground are Majora's Mask and Windwaker.

Everything Coming - Just more Zelda's, Mario's and what have you.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

Brawl - I liked the original the best, I have never been impressed with the sequels.

Super Mario Galaxy - I got bored with the N64 one before I even finished that.

Zelda - They are all the same, if you played one you played them all.  About the only ones that even attempt to tread new ground are Majora's Mask and Windwaker.

Everything Coming - Just more Zelda's, Mario's and what have you.

Zelda U.

Watch the stuff on it.

[Shanks 10,816]

Nobody cares about Nintendo's games on the other consoles, the other consoles are filled with people that only buy shooters and won't buy anything that isn't in a first person point of view.

It is true that Xboxs and Playstations do have much more options for those kind of gamers but saying that fans of those consoles are only into those kind of games is overgeneralizing big time. I have very little interest in those kind of games because the first person shooter genre has churned out hardly any good games in a long time with clones like the Call of Duty series for example and yet the Playstation 3 was my favorite console of the previous generation. I liked it because it had the most amount of games in the last generation that interested me. The games that did interest me were Dragon Age, the Assassins Creed series, most of the more recent games in the Tales series, the Kingdom Hearts series to name a few and there were either available for both the Playstation 3 or Xbox 360 but all of which actually involved quite a bit of thought to them that many of the games you described do in fact lack.

 

Speaking as a consumer though I have grown up with Nintendo and if Nintendo were to go 3rd party like Sega did than I wouldn't mind the change so long as they still released good games which they still do but most of them on the last couple of generations or so have been on portable systems. There are plenty of negatives to Nintendo going 3rd party which you have already listed but there is also the positive of them not having the pressure of developing hardware and being able to take advantage of the more advanced hardware of their former competition.

[Felix 1,363]

I love Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo has some great things that I really love and is what makes me a Nintendo gamer, but that doesn't mean they're perfect. Same with Sony. There's a few minor nitpicks I have with them but that doesn't mean their bad. I enjoy my PS3 quite a lot. I think there's a lot of great things about it just as their is with Nintendo. It's just that Nintendo is more family friendly to me and I find those games much more fun.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Felix

[A Black Circle 1,586]

I love Nintendo. They make great, fun, unique, and colorful games that feel full of life. That is something I don't see Sony accomplish all too often. Though I'll credit them for Ratchet & Clank. For me that has to be my favorite single player game on their systems. That's the one game (Into the Nexus to be more specific) I thought held together really quite well. Sony doesn't handle their single player too well unlike Nintendo so I found Ratchet to be one of the things that has me giving Sony some credit for a job well done in that regard. Also, Minecraft on the big screen with my friends! *squee!*

Naughty Dog.

 

The whole company. (Crash 1-3, Jak and Daxter, Uncharted, TLOU)

[Radiance64 7,053]

Honestly, People that want Nintendo to go third party are living a fantasy, thinking everything will be just fine, that sounds like a fan-boys wet dream more than anything.

 

Dude, all those title you listed are on the Wii, not Wii U, lets make a list of upcoming games.

-Splatoon

-Devil's third

-Star fox U

-Legend of Zelda U

-Mario maker

-Sonic boom

-Yoshi's woolly world

-Kirby and the rainbow curse

-Super smash bros Wii U

-bayonetta 2

-Captain toad treasure tracker

 

there, that's much better.

There's also Xenoblade X:

I want a Wii U for that game more than anything

[Lankman 86]

Oh yeah, forgot about that one, thanks

If Nintendo do go third party, We will only see Mario and Zelda games, sure, the trolls will say, "But Nintendo only make legend of Zelda and Mario games", but anyway.

 

Mario and Zelda are the only franchises that really sell well on Nintendo platforms, all those other beloved niche franchises like Kid Icarus, Metroid, Star fox etc, will no longer be made, they will Rely on Mario and Link to keep them alive.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Lankman

[Silver Herald 169]

You mean Destiny?

 

that got a 76 on gamerankings?

 

yeah.

...No...

 

I'm talking about Smash 4. .-.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

...No...

 

I'm talking about Smash 4. .-.

lel

 

apparently, this year's best game is TLOU Remastered.

[Cloud Strife 928]

Brawl - I liked the original the best, I have never been impressed with the sequels.

Super Mario Galaxy - I got bored with the N64 one before I even finished that.

Zelda - They are all the same, if you played one you played them all.  About the only ones that even attempt to tread new ground are Majora's Mask and Windwaker.

Everything Coming - Just more Zelda's, Mario's and what have you.

 

I'm guessing you haven't played Hyrule Warriors.

 

(Also, Skyward Sword is pretty drastically different from the others, what with how linear it is by comparison. Plus, stamina.)

[Lankman 86]

Okay, fine, that's your opinion.

But Every Zelda is different, you can call me a fanboy all you want, they are very different each instalment , the reason why they are kind of the same Is because it has Link in it.

 

and also, you are wrong about their upcoming games, very wrong.

[Barbaloot 198]

People who keep saying "Nintendo is DOOMED" seem to forget these same arguments popped up when the Wii was a thing, and THAT was one of the best selling consoles of ALL TIME! And that they still completely dominate the handheld market.

 

If they're like this by the time 2 generations come and go, then be worried. But remember kiddies: Sega took 2 entire console generations to flop. Nintendo is just coming off of their best selling console ever.