SharpWit 2,682 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, An Admirer said: Because the bestiality is defined as in****** between a person and and an animal. You check definition of animal you'll see any creature other than humans and plants are known as animals. But have peoples who declared that definition seen all the universe and worlds inside it. Precisely they meant any creature (on earth) who's not a human or plant. 2 hours ago, An Admirer said: Relationship between two fully sapient (or as you said this sentient) beings is known as xenophilia or interspecies (you can say this exophilia as well). Not bestiality. It has its own standards of being wrong and right. Obviously your aware that many people have been sharing the view that this would be bestiality, and I must thank you for providing a new word to my vocabulary on the matter, but it seems the difference between bestiality and xenophilia is that bestiality specifies that the creature in question is not intelligent where as xenophilia does not, so bestiality falls within the circle of xenophilia, making it easy to see why the terms are so easilly confused. This isn't helped by the common initial reasoning for bestiality being considered wrong because it's a relationship with another species. But it's that reasoning that knowing the correct terms doesn't change anything for anyone. It's like someone posting an image of the color purple, and you comment saying you don't like the color purple, and someone else steps in to correct you that it's actually violet so you shouldn't dislike it, but of course you still dislike it because the differences are negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Tang 2,426 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 As many people had said, they are still horses. It will be very weird to marry one of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsoon 1,662 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 Probably not mainly because I'm not interested in marriage in the first place No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGrimoire 4,973 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 I've answered this before. As a human being no... I just don't feel it would work out to be married to a creature of a different species. If I were one of them... well... duh. 1 ~No profound statement needed~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna's Admirer 945 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 @SharpWit First I'd like to thank you to understand what I meant. I understand why would you consider that wrong and I'll not force my opinion upon you. This is not my first time being in an controversial topic like this. People usually tends to confuse both terms. But as non of the party members is animal so calling this bestiality would be wrong. Both creatures have a high standard of morals and principles. Both are equally intelegent. And believe me, whether you like or dislike the fact. But suppose that suddenly a portal opened up and like in many stories human and pony's world are joined together, and then suddenly one day you meet an Equestrian mare let's say at wherever you work as your coworker. You both likely to talk and spend time together and maybe you began to like her in a platonic way. And by the time she began to like you too. And soon despite the fact you both are different species you starts to like each other even more. (If two people of opposite gender have good understanding and respect for each other they're likely (not strictly) to fall for each other). Now at this point you'll worried about yourself that you're doing something really wrong by liking her like that. Then maybe you'll start to ponder that why do yoi like her in first place. There could be many reasons, one of which is Maybe you always wanted a woman of her personality to be your spouse. Only thing which concerns you is her appearance. Then you ponder a little more. Wouldn't it be wrong to reject her only because she's different than you. So what would you do then. I bet it'll be really hard to say her no, without feeling awefully bad for this. Then only thing you'll despise will be your differences. You'd wish that may there be a way for you two to be together. (The point of this fanfiction is to show that loving a FIM Pony in that way, is not same as lo***** an *disgusted expression* animal. Some people will still say that they could never fall in love with a (FIM) Pony but you'll never know until you're in such a condition/situation/scenario yourself) Same as before, just a little explaination of my thoughts and no offense on anyone who's not interested in such a relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Clutch 435 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 Would I have to pay for the wedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpWit 2,682 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, An Admirer said: Maybe you always wanted a woman of her personality to be your spouse. Only thing which concerns you is her appearance. Then you ponder a little more. Wouldn't it be wrong to reject her only because she's different than you. So what would you do then. I bet it'll be really hard to say her no, without feeling awefully bad for this. Then only thing you'll despise will be your differences. You'd wish that may there be a way for you two to be together. That might be true but I can only speak for myself on that, and for me it wouldn't be that hard because I have a different, more objective view than most people when it comes to relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna's Admirer 945 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, SharpWit said: That might be true but I can only speak for myself on that, and for me it wouldn't be that hard because I have a different, more objective view than most people when it comes to relationships. If you say so. Because I believe several others wouldn't find this that easy to say no. And there'd be several others who'd say yes without thinking thrice or even twice. As for me I'd be worried for a while then I'd say definitely yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Canterlot 9,603 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 (edited) "Would you marry a pony sapien?" I don't have much reason not to, whether I'm also a pony or if I'm a human, getting married to a pony would be like a dream come true, especially if that mare was Rainbow Dash I guess I'm thinking in terms of MLP ponies, but in terms of real ponies being able to talk and such, I would still marry them as they are intelligent creatures who can feel love too, so if we feel a pull towards each other, then I still don't think there's any reason to not get married Edited May 21, 2018 by King of Canterlot 2 RA RA RASPUTIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpWit 2,682 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, An Admirer said: If you say so. Because I believe several others wouldn't find this that easy to say no. And there'd be several others who'd say yes without thinking thrice or even twice. As for me I'd be worried for a while then I'd say definitely yes. Keep in mind as large as this community is, there's a clear divide within it, and most people outside of it are going to say no as well. I'd even wager that a fair number of people avoided this topic because of what it entails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgir the Mighty 736 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1215863/Man-reveals-married-horse-Jerry-Springer.html this Guy did. i wouldn’t unless I myself was a pony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna's Admirer 945 May 21, 2018 Share May 21, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, SharpWit said: Keep in mind as large as this community is, there's a clear divide within it, and most people outside of it are going to say no as well. Yes, there is always difference between opinions on many things. And that's a good thing, you know why:- Because there also will be a fair number of people considering this right. And for the post of @Nightmare Terror 54 minutes ago, Nightmare Terror said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1215863/Man-reveals-married-horse-Jerry-Springer.html this Guy did. Ewwww. Technically he didn't. Because question was would you marry a pony sapien (FIM Pony). Not a real life pony of earth. In fact that's just most disgusting thing I ever heard. I must wash my brain now to forget what I just read. Disgusting. Edited May 21, 2018 by An Admirer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcissus 355 May 22, 2018 Share May 22, 2018 I'd do it. I'd marry a pony sapien. They're just cartoon ponies so it doesn't seem like bestiality to me. In any case I don't care. I like cartoon characters; they're attractive and appealing. Sign me up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSuits 231 May 26, 2018 Share May 26, 2018 (edited) This topic and its comments are very similar to the "Would you date an Alicorn" topic. As such, I'll say the same idea here which I did there. For procreation, humans are only compatible with other humans. All scientific attempts have failed to successfully mix human DNA with DNA from other species. Then, you add the moral and ethical implications of the relationship, and it only becomes more taboo and disgusting. But here, we're not talking about real-life animals; we're talking about magical, fictional characters. Not only that, but we're not really discussing the idea of a real-life person having offspring with said magical, fictional characters. (At least, I haven't seen it yet in the comments.) So allow me to break the ice on this issue: What if the taboos and moral issues weren't the source of the problem? I think it all comes down to offspring; if a real-life person has "relations" with an animal, the best-case scenario is a horrible mutant-thing, if anything. We don't have any Fauns, Satyrs, (goat-people) Centaurs, etc. But what if that situation was reversed? What if by marrying an Equestrian, you wouldn't need to worry about your offspring being horribly mutated? What if the result of Me+Twilight/Applejack/Dash/Rarity/Fluttershy/Pinkie/Somepony was a centaur, without any birth defects? What then? What are the true mental barriers which stop the relationship? For me, if procreation/morality wouldn't be a problem, I'd be happy to marry Applejack, even with her as a pony and myself as a human. If procreation isn't a problem, and we're limiting the conversation to talking about relationships with human-level (or even superior) intelligence, then I think the morality issue isn't an issue anymore. The next step/issue becomes nothing more than personal preference. If we're talking about a world where procreation isn't a problem between sapient ponies and people, then the only question becomes, "Do I want to stay as a human and have centaur offspring, or do I want to become a sapient pony and have sapient pony offspring?" Personally, I could go either way on this one. What would Applejack prefer? I'd probably just give the choice to her. (This isn't taking racism into account. If my centaur offspring are shamed because they're centaurs, I'd become a sapient pony to avoid that situation.) Edited May 26, 2018 by DJSuits to fix typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicEnergy 23,222 October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 I'd love to marry Rainbow Dash! 1 *totally not up to any shenanigans* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,989 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Scar said: No way, that is bestiality. it'd be bestiality if it was an actual horse, but as a pony sapien is about as sentient as humans, it really wouldnt be I mean I would if they would even go near me with a 10ft barge pole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleButt 8,676 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 Yeah I would! I don't even care what it's considered, they're intelligent beings so it'd be alright. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSuits 231 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Scar said: I consider it bestiality regardless of intelligence, because of the form it is in. It's not even attractive, like what the hell lol. What do you mean by "...the form it is in"? Are you referring to the simple fact that you're human and an MLP pony is a non-human? If that's what you refer to, what about the Equestria Girls versions? Or what if you became a pony upon entering Equestria? (In the Equestria Girls movies, they always change from ponies to humans when they enter the EQG world, and they always change from humans to ponies when they enter Equestria through the portal.) If you were the same species, then the beastiality wouldn't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSuits 231 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 13 hours ago, Sherbie-kun <3 said: it'd be bestiality if it was an actual horse, but as a pony sapien is about as sentient as humans, it really wouldnt be... Remember that the rules of the question don't say you have to be an MLP pony. Beastiality is a human having sexual relations with a non-human. So if a human was in Equestria, it could still be considered beastiality if the human-in-Equestria married an MLP pony. The issue, then, as I wrote about before, is compatibility. In the real world, beastiality results in either a horribly mutated thing, or results in nothing happening at all. Beastiality doesn't create satyrs, fauns, centaurs, or any other fictional mix of human and animal. However, in Equestria, we just don't know what would happen. We saw Flurry Heart born as a natural alicorn, so maybe a centaur would be possible? But that hasn't been brought up in canon. Every time an Equestria Girls human comes to Equestria, (through the portal, anyway) he/she becomes a pony. So there hasn't been any opportunity for a human/pony pairing in MLP: FiM. If (genetic) compatibility wasn't a problem, then I wouldn't see any major problems with a human/mlp-pony pairing. The main reason beastiality is a problem in real life is because non-humans: • Don't have human-level intelligence • Aren't genetically compatible with humans. Both points are equally valid on a secular level. The biggest trouble a question like this thread has is that people sometimes can't separate the real world from the fictional world. IRL, equines are nowhere near humans either physically or mentally. So, IRL, people and equines can't mix on anything other than the owner/pet level. But in fictional worlds, any character can have human-level intelligence, regardless of species. In a fictional world, a cat, or a dog, or a pony, can be just as intelligent, or perhaps even more intelligent, than the humans within that fictional world. (And it's because the fictional characters are created/voiced/acted by humans.) Humans create the fictional characters; humans create the fictional worlds. For MLP, you might as well ask if I'd marry Tara Strong or Ashleigh Ball, rather than asking if I'd marry Twilight Sparkle, or Applejack/Rainbow Dash. (Counterpoint: the voice actresses aren't the characters; they simply voice the characters. However, when you think of Twilight, Applejack, RD, Rarity, etc., you likely hear the voice actress's voice in your head.) The humans who write and voice the fictional characters are the ones who bring the characters into life. The fictional characters only seem real, and they only seem to have human-level intelligence *because* they were created and played by humans. So, instead of thinking so much about whether you would marry a fictional MLP pony, the better question is: "Which MLP characteristics would you want your spouse to have?" The reason we think so highly of the MLP characters is that they demonstrate things we want people to be. We want people to be innocent like Fluttershy is innocent. We want people to be honest like Applejack is honest. We want people to be loyal like Rainbow Dash is loyal. We want people to be enthusiastic about what they enjoy, like pretty much all the MLP ponies are enthusiastic. And yes, we want people (girls) to be cute and cutesy and adorable. We like the MLP ponies because that's how they were written. The MLP ponies were written with some of humanity's best traits in mind. (Kindness, loyalty, honesty, and even genuine repentance and a little bit of regret– they're all shown.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splashee 28,566 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 Why not? I don't discriminate pony sapiens (it is sapiens, not sapien. And to be even more correct, it would be Pony Sapiens Sapiens, because just like us, they know that they know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedonismBot 241 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 I have zero interest in becoming a parent, so a genetically incompatible partner would actually be a big plus (that is, assuming that "genetically incompatible" means "nothing happens" as it usually does in real life, as opposed to "freak baby"). And as others have said, with any species possessing human-level intelligence (regardless of resemblance to real-world animals) inter-species relations would be morally no different than dating one of the aliens from Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittoni 538 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 marriage is not my thing but I would get into a platonic relationship with a show-like sapient mlp pony. jesus christ, marrying and getting into a relationship doesn't mean you must have sex with them as if it's a rule, you can love without sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedonismBot 241 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 I don't know about Equestria, but in most real-world cultures marriage generally implies making one's self available for sex to a reasonable extent (failure to do so is actually grounds for divorce in many places). Personally I guess I'd be all right with just cuddling. Though in that case I'd probably scrap the whole "monogamy" thing and live up to my username. And while I'm at it, broaden my horizons to griffons, kirin, and others (or all at once). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,989 October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Scar said: I consider it bestiality regardless of intelligence, because of the form it is in. It's not even attractive, like what the hell lol. fair dos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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