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I actually noticed a couple things relating to this in the 2nd Trailer, that could be considered sexualizing....that being the black panther, laying naked on a random chaise lounge in the middle of a public place "grooming" itself provocatively, along with a Gazelle dancing and singing in a skirt and top later on, with 4 well built up topless tigers watching her. Heck, there's a whole "nudist colony/naturalist club" in the trailer.

 

Black Panther: 1:41

Gazelle:  1:54

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWM0ct-OLsM

 

Nudism is not sexual..

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although I will say it got a pretty bad representation in that trailer..

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Since I'm a furry, I feel like I should throw my two cents into this. While I know for sure that there are many furries that are excited about this movie, I don't think the film was made in order to attract furries. One could argue that MLP was made to appeal to furries because it features anthropomorphic ponies.

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I well and truly believe that the movie in itself is not directly catered towards furries. To me, it is just another Disney movie that just happens to be anthropomorphic animals, that's all.


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   I am a furry, even more so than a brony, so I can say that although it will appeal to furries, Zootopia is not made specifically for furries. Robin Hood was the first anthropomorphic Disney film, and it would remain so until Chicken Little, so I am actually quite pleased to see Disney use animal characters again, after all the human stories like, Frozen, Tangled, Brave, Up and whatever Cinderella story they can think of, it is quite nice to see variety. It has become tradition, for Disney to feature animals as main characters in a story, like the Lady and the Tramp, 101 Dalmatians, or the Lion King, and Walt Disney himself was an animal lover, it you have ever seen any of his TV programs, plus he started out with an animal main character Mickey Mouse, before he added Minnie, Donald Duck and Goofy, so it is good to see that the company, has remembered that animals gave Disney its identity, I recommend anyone to watch Dumbo, and observe how the animals are animated, see how much character he gives in their expressions, even if they do not speak, so in continuing in the age old human tradition of using animals to tell stories, like My Little Pony, Zootopia is just the latest entry of animated movies, only with furry animals.      

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Nice to know that liking (or promoting) cartoon anthro animals automatically makes someone a furry.

Not saying that there's something wrong with it just saying that there seems to be some implications of it.

 

And no doubt it's not a full blown furry show. I just remember what started people into being furries was from cartoons like these in the past. They had to have gotten it somewhere.


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Everypony has already said it . . . but it can't be said enough, a VERY large portion of the Mouse House's library contain anthropomorphic animals.

 

-Cinderella

-The Aristocats

-The Rescuers

-The Jungle Book

-101 Dalmations

-Robin Hood

-Bambi

-The Great Mouse Detective

-Winnie the Pooh

-Basically anything involving Mickey, Donald, and Goofy

 

And let's not forget . . .

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMU2NwaaXEA

 

Your welcome.  :umad:

 

But my point is, to say that Disney is make a movie "for furries" is rather silly for many reasons, just one is because of their long tradition of animating anthropomorphic animals. Another though is that Disney has achieved their status because they are great at near universal appeal.

 

I just got done with a publishing class for my writing major and one of the lessons hammered to us is that niche markets can be profitable but they are just one market and the other side of that spectrum is mass appeal. Which is NOT the same as more base or less artistic, just wider appeal. Disney does great work at making movies that near anyone can enjoy. Even as childless adults people flock to movies like Wreck it Ralp, Frozen and Big Hero 6. Even today the image of holding a new born child up for the world to see makes us think of the Lion King, songs like "We are men" provoke a chorus to any who hear one singing it, Disney characters have become the apotheosis of the archetypes they are drawn from. (Gaston, the narcissistic prick who's full of himself and thinks he's the hero. Jafar, the scheming but trusted advisor to the throne. Aladdin, the guileful charming thief.)

 

You don't get that kind of lasting universality by making movies for a niche audience, you do so by knowing how to make people want something they didn't even know they wanted.

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Everypony has already said it . . . but it can't be said enough, a VERY large portion of the Mouse House's library contain anthropomorphic animals.

 

-Cinderella

-The Aristocats

-The Rescuers

-The Jungle Book

-101 Dalmations

-Robin Hood

-Bambi

-The Great Mouse Detective

-Winnie the Pooh

-Basically anything involving Mickey, Donald, and Goofy

 

And let's not forget . . .

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMU2NwaaXEA

 

Your welcome.  :umad:

 

But my point is, to say that Disney is make a movie "for furries" is rather silly for many reasons, just one is because of their long tradition of animating anthropomorphic animals. Another though is that Disney has achieved their status because they are great at near universal appeal.

 

I just got done with a publishing class for my writing major and one of the lessons hammered to us is that niche markets can be profitable but they are just one market and the other side of that spectrum is mass appeal. Which is NOT the same as more base or less artistic, just wider appeal. Disney does great work at making movies that near anyone can enjoy. Even as childless adults people flock to movies like Wreck it Ralp, Frozen and Big Hero 6. Even today the image of holding a new born child up for the world to see makes us think of the Lion King, songs like "We are men" provoke a chorus to any who hear one singing it, Disney characters have become the apotheosis of the archetypes they are drawn from. (Gaston, the narcissistic prick who's full of himself and thinks he's the hero. Jafar, the scheming but trusted advisor to the throne. Aladdin, the guileful charming thief.)

 

You don't get that kind of lasting universality by making movies for a niche audience, you do so by knowing how to make people want something they didn't even know they wanted.

That's the thing you don't need a writing class to understand this. They're bringing back the furry crowd that was created by watching those shows by bringing back anthropomorphic animals back to the big screen. And not the kind of animals that live alongside humans and merely exhibit human-like behaviors but adopt human jobs and live in houses rather than a mouse hole. 

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That's the thing you don't need a writing class to understand this. They're bringing back the furry crowd by bringing back anthropomorphic animals back to the big screen. And not the kind of animals that live alongside humans and merely exhibit human-like behaviors but adopt human jobs and live in houses rather than a mouse hole. 

 

I stand by what I said, I don't think Disney is catering to the furry fandom. Does this appeal to them? I certainly think it would, but my point was that, you don't need to BE one in order to enjoy the movie. As I suspect the thousands who go to see it, myself included, can attest.

 

See, as my writing classes have taught me, there's a big difference between one's target audience and one's market audience. We are not the target audience of MLP but we were the unknown market for it. Just as much, I strongly doubt that furries are the target audience for Zootopia but no doubt they are the market.

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I stand by what I said, I don't think Disney is catering to the furry fandom. Does this appeal to them? I certainly think it would, but my point was that, you don't need to BE one in order to enjoy the movie. As I suspect the thousands who go to see it, myself included, can attest.

 

See, as my writing classes have taught me, there's a big difference between one's target audience and one's market audience. We are not the target audience of MLP but we were the unknown market for it. Just as much, I strongly doubt that furries are the target audience for Zootopia but no doubt they are the market.

I'm saying the furry fandom was made by those cartoons so it is going for people that appeal towards anthropomorphic animals including children.

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I'm saying the furry fandom was made by those cartoons so it is going for people that appeal towards anthropomorphic animals including children.

 

Well I can't think of many people who oppose the inclusion of anthropomorphic animals. I mean when people make fun of Kung Fu Panda, (unfairly I might add) it's not the presence of animals in the place of humans that is among their criticism. So again, if all it takes to count as being "made for furries" is simply the inclusion of anthropomorphic animals, I can think of a very large number of cartoons, folk tales, and one political satire that was apparently made for furries. 

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Well I can't think of many people who oppose the inclusion of anthropomorphic animals. I mean when people make fun of Kung Fu Panda, (unfairly I might add) it's not the presence of animals in the place of humans that is among their criticism. So again, if all it takes to count as being "made for furries" is simply the inclusion of anthropomorphic animals, I can think of a very large number of cartoons, folk tales, and one political satire that was apparently made for furries. 

Well it just says we all got a little furry in all of us. We like how different the characters are, putting different anthro animals together like that creates wide diversity which people like even if they won't admit it

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Well it just says we all got a little furry in all of us.

 

I would say so, as most of us spend a lot of time around animals, many of us have pets, and it's very rare for anyone not to see many other animals just on there day to day life. Not to mention the number of times animals are used as characters, gods, symbols, and themes in mythology and folklore.

 

Humans just have a natural fascination with the neighbors of our planet.

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Part of me has a suspicion the people making the movie are aware of furries, if not furries themselves. I think that because in the teaser trailer they described what anthropomorphic animals are and it sounded like a little lecture from a furry.

 

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The teaser trailer 100% has me thinking this film was made with furries in mind

Not exactly by or for furries, but furries are certainly a big part of the audience they're going for.

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The teaser trailer 100% has me thinking this film was made with furries in mind

Not exactly by or for furries, but furries are certainly a big part of the audience they're going for.

If that was the case wouldn't they not feel the need to explain it then...?

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If that was the case wouldn't they not feel the need to explain it then...?

 

A chunk of the audience isn't an entire audience, you still have a bunch of other folks to include in there like children, teens, animation enthusiasts, all those others.

It's just the audiences they're trying to appeal to the most are furries and kids/teens

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A chunk of the audience isn't an entire audience, you still have a bunch of other folks to include in there like children, teens, animation enthusiasts, all those others.

It's just the audiences they're trying to appeal to the most are furries and kids/teens

IDK, I mean that's kind of really stretching it I would say.

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   No... I do not think this is some kinda "furry" movie, made by furries for furries. Like, that's ridiculous right. There have been countless talking animal movies in past years and Disney, Dreamworks or animation as a whole is no stranger to talking anthropomorphic animals. It's just easy and people know kids love them. Don Bluth has made a few talking animal films too. Why does the furry question only come up with this movie? 

     I mean look at it like this. You have 'Disney's Robin Hood', the story done by using animals for the cast. Or 'The Great Mouse Detective', or the film 'Chicken Little". That had "Furries" too... right? It seems, if you put clothes on an talking animal, guess that makes them "furries", right? Hey, just look at Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny or If you wanna split "hares" here.

 

    The question, that 'Zootopia' is meant to be "furry" or whatever this thread is implying... Just seems silly and someone's over thinking it. It's just another cutesey talking animal movie... 

     

     It doesn't look half bad either, it's something I'll probably see when it comes out instead of opting to wait for rental like how I do sometimes with kids' movies or something more aimed at kids. Kids can be some of the worst movie goers... At least what I hear anyways.

 

      Ya know, in them trailers when the cop bunnygirl and Mr. Fox go into an "animal" version of the DMV and ALL the clerks are sloths... The next few seconds is painfully obviously slow that you felt for rabbit girl who was like all rabbits in a rush. The other second, I saw that scene I was like "Oh they're so slow". You thought like that rabbit girl with her hurry to move the scene and that fox is totally trolling her cause that face he makes. I know foxes are rabbit eaters... In this case, it looks like he's just trolling her to and like he's giving her a hard time? The emphasis of sloths being... really... sloooowwww. Man that was hard to sit through. Then the sloth turns to a female coworker sloth and tries to relay the joke Mr. Fox told him. Imagine getting the punchline to a joke a mile before they do. It was hard to sit through but funny how Mr.Fox seemed to be trolling the rabbit cop girl. 

 

  Anywho what was I talking about. Furry or not furry? Who cares, it's just another talking animal movie... Which looks good anyway.

 

(Did You Know) Three Toed Sloths are really good swimmers? Despite being slow movers. When they're swimming it almost looks like normal speed... Like 3X faster than it moves.

 

 

 

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Personally I don't think that the animators are furries, but if they were that would be awesome! But since Disney is known for some of it animal cartoons, I doubt that they are because the idea of anthromorphic animals is an astounding idea, but you don't have to be a furry to like it.

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Appeals to a furry? Yes (or at least myself) made for furries? Probably not. Just another Disney movie featuring anthropomorphic animals. Besides They have been doing em, for years. For example, Robin Hood could be argued to be fur the furry community as well.


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