TheAnimatorOfficial 567 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I think MLP should raise the stakes but having a blatantly gay character is not one of them. It would feel WAY too preachy and cause chaos among viewers. It's always been a politically neutral show and doing something like this would ruin it. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastementSparkle 20,335 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 The show's never going to have a LGBT character, probably. Too much potential for trouble and angry parents for them to do that in this show, as sad as that is. But it doesn't have to be "Preachy" if they did. I mean, all they'd have to do have is have a same-gender couple play a role...The moral wouldn't even have to be about gay rights or acceptance or anything, just have a gay couple and the mane cast is fine with it and there you go. Course, a moral about acceptance could be done well too if that's the route they wanted to take. Honestly, when it comes to LGBT, what isn't considered "Preachy"? I see this accusation lobbed at anything with any character that's Gay/Trans/Bi/Etc. Anything can be considered preachy, apparently. 6 Twilight is best pony. Why hello MLPForums! What have ya been up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glike 488 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I think MLP should raise the stakes but having a blatantly gay character is not one of them. It would feel WAY too preachy and cause chaos among viewers. It's always been a politically neutral show and doing something like this would ruin it. It'd only be blatant and preachy if they draw attention to it and make a big deal of it. If they can casually slip it in, a la Ruby and Sapphire, I think it could work. Of course, I don't think it should be between any main characters, and I don't think the episode should revolve around it. It's something better seen than heard. Just show a relationship, but don't make it a focus. No need for Twilight or somepony else to say, "Those two mares love each other so much, and that's perfectly acceptable." Just show that it's a normal occurrence in Equestria and it's not any different from seeing a straight couple. 5 Avatar by the lovely ChibiDashie and Signature by the wonderful Pinkamena Dianne Pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesme Rize 15,692 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I saw people opening a huge barrel, because of the scenes between Bon Bon and Lyra in Slice of Life, especially the bedrooms eyes they did. No matter how you do it, people will rage about it. 8 My OC Mesme Rize: >https://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/mesme-rize-r8777 Thank you Randimaxis for this Wonderful Avatar. Please, don't be afraid to talk to me. I am not as unapproachable, as you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarity Is Best Pony 634 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I for one would be down for some LGBT representation in MLP. However I would want it to serve a purpose and not just be some token character for the sake of equality. However I also do not ever see this happening as Hasbro most likely doesn't want to piss off the parents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanact 333 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I think MLP should raise the stakes but having a blatantly gay character is not one of them. It would feel WAY too preachy and cause chaos among viewers. It's always been a politically neutral show and doing something like this would ruin it. I don't think they should raise the stakes at all. Its a childrens show, but I completely agree that it doesn't need any LGBT in the show whatsoever. That isn't why any of us came to watch the show to begin with. I personally enjoy the show because its a cute and funny cartoon without having sex/relationships involved in any way, unlike any other cartoon made basically. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,440 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 (edited) I saw people opening a huge barrel, because of the scenes between Bon Bon and Lyra in Slice of Life, especially the bedrooms eyes they did. No matter how you do it, people will rage about it. I think they most likely just did that to poke fun at all the shippers or something. It was their ultimate pandering episode, after all. Edited April 26, 2016 by A.V. 4 By @Emerald Heart.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggg-2 3,555 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I brought this up in another thread on this topic but......FiM probably airs in countries where being gay and/or transgender is not only frowned upon, but outright illegal. Someone replied to me in that thread saying that if this is done, the show would be heavily censored in those countries. However, this is actually a good BEST case scenario. Worst case scenario, the show is seen as "pro-homosexual/transgender propaganda" and is banned completely. Don't be a nerd. Join the herd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I brought this up in another thread on this topic but......FiM probably airs in countries where being gay and/or transgender is not only frowned upon, but outright illegal. Someone replied to me in that thread saying that if this is done, the show would be heavily censored in those countries. However, this is actually a good BEST case scenario. Worst case scenario, the show is seen as "pro-homosexual/transgender propaganda" and is banned completely. And we are concerned about the show being banned in countries that are against human rights... Why? I would imagine those places have bigger problems to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaMinori 4,149 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Ugh. No. Just....NO. The show's main message is FRIENDSHIP is magic. Throwing an LGBT in the show would distract from that message and be unessesary. 2 Under the Jellicle Moon- a site with cuteness, cat boys, and comic strips / Star Dreams Fanclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concerned Bystander 2,905 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 If they had slipped it quietly into the background round from the start I don't think it wold have been seen as much of an issue. However, because of all the fuss that's been made about it, if they were to do it now now, regardless of the context, it would be seen as capitulation to the PC brigade and would attract ire from all sides. The conservatives would complain about the show eroding family values and the liberals would complain about tokenism if the character was too prominent/not prominent enough. They really can't win either way. Better to just leave it how it is, about friendship, and let other programs deal with romantic relationships. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,306 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Ugh. No. Just....NO. The show's main message is FRIENDSHIP is magic. Throwing an LGBT in the show would distract from that message and be unessesary. Maybe if they just randomly started pairing off members of the Mane Six. Otherwise: Why wouldn't any heterosexual pairings (some of which already exist canonically) do the exact same thing? Did Mr. and Mrs. Cake, Cranky-Doodle and Matilda, or Shining and Cadance distract from the show's fundamental message? Sure, rampant, inexplicable shipping would be a horrible move, but simply introducing a homosexual pairing wouldn't suddenly destroy the foundation of the entire show. If homosexual pairings are unnecessary, so are heterosexual pairings. I don't see how presenting a homosexual relationship in a responsible and thoughtful way (i.e. every bit as normal and acceptable as a hetero one) would hurt anything. I think MLP should raise the stakes but having a blatantly gay character is not one of them. It would feel WAY too preachy and cause chaos among viewers. It's always been a politically neutral show and doing something like this would ruin it. It isn't "preachy" to show that the relationship between two mares or two stallions is no more strange than a relationship between a mare and a stallion. They don't have to center the entire show around demonstrating something that most members of the target demographic probably wouldn't be upset by anyhow, and adult fans complain about everything under the sun anyway. Homosexuality isn't an inherently political issue; it's a perfectly normal part of many people's lives. It's who they are and should be treated no differently than heterosexuality in that regard. 10 "It uses the faculty of what you call imagination. But that does not mean making things up. It is a form of seeing." - from "The Amber Spyglass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poneinsocks 8 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 If homosexual pairings are unnecessary, so are heterosexual pairings. I don't see how presenting a homosexual relationship in a responsible and thoughtful way (i.e. every bit as normal and acceptable as a hetero one) would hurt anything. This is what I think, to be honest I don't think there should be any relationships in MLP. I mean it is not really needed anyway. One thing though i think if they made a big deal about the being gay it would be annoying. Anything other then that would be fine. And lets be honest Lyra and Bon Bon are gay, the 100th ep proved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponies4Bronies 396 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 They won't do it and they shouldn't. The show is about friendship and relationships are always show killers, I'm really worried about Cadance/Shining Armor/Flurry Heart not just the possibility of an LGBT relationship. At least make it an indirect nod sort of something that takes like a second like the two standing together. But in the real case, it won't happen Hasbro won't risk pissing off its targets demographic's parents who do the main buying of their merchandise from their most profitable brand. They should fire that idiot for bringing it up. So it won't happen, I don't want it to happen and it might actually cause fire on both sides not just mine. Honey Wings, my love, my life, together forever. This picture is 20% cooler thanks to Twisted Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonClaw 8,174 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I wanna say they kinda already have with Lyra and Bon Bon. They've pretty much done everything short of outright saying that they're together as a couple. Now, before anyone jumps down my throat on this, allow me to explain: First, we had Rainbow Rocks where they were playing a duet on piano while sitting... awkwardly close to one another (no lie, someone cheer in the theatre at that scene). In one of the shorts for Friendship Games featuring them (which also included a Kill A Kill reference) the closing iris at the end is in the shape of a heart. Hell, the short's called "All's Fair in LOVE and Friendship." Yes, it's a reference to "All's Fair in Love and War", but still... Then we had Slice of Life, where they were "such good friends" while constantly bumping flanks and staring into each other's eyes. . Sure, and Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus were "just affectionate cousins." Then, on Valentine's Day, this was posted on Hasbro's Facebook page: Notice anything? Either this is a case of "One of these is not like the others" or a"Hint, hint, wink, nudge." Even if this is just me looking on with Shipping Goggles, the show could still include it without bringing attention to it, like with what they did with Stellar Eclipse. He's my favorite character from that episode not just for his design, but for the fact that at no point does anyone point out or bat and eye at his wheelchair. 6 MLPForums "Self-Proclaimed" Kamen Rider NutNow, count up your sins!I do Traditional commissions, by the way! See them HERE! Banner was done by the wonderful Kyoshi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'gann M'orzz 745 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 I totally do though, I think it'd be a good lesson about acceptance, you can't just shield kids from the fact that gay people exist you know. Also I think something like RariJack would just open up a lot of new avenues for stories. 1 RARITY IS THE BEST PONY EVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyStrike 603 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 (edited) I think MLP should raise the stakes but having a blatantly gay character is not one of them. It would feel WAY too preachy and cause chaos among viewers. It's always been a politically neutral show and doing something like this would ruin it. Preachy?!!? How is it preachy to represent LGBT people? Oh look over there, a gay person! How dare they preach at me with their gayness! I want to see openly gay characters on the show. I don't care if it freaks people out and as for other countries there is such a thing as censorship and they can use it if they must be petulant assholes about it. Edited April 26, 2016 by CandyStrike 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riganthor 484 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 well we had a gay/metrosexual in the form of stevenmagnet and we have lyra and bon bon, so I think they have kinda done this already. it isnt really that on the nose, which is a verry good thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Sugar 532 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Shows like Steven Universe and Clarence have openly gay characters, and I haven't seen riots in the streets. 5 ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ☆★☆ It's you I love ☆★☆ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHfunk 422 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Like some people said, Lyra and Bon Bon. They're most definitely gay and they were always there, Slice of Life just showed more of their life together. I don't see anyone complaining, and it fits fine. They can just sit in the background doing whatever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,202 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 Okay, I want to ask a serious question: How in the HELL would having LGBT characters in this show be 'preachy'? Seriously, I really would love to know the reasoning behind this. Why is it that it is perfectly acceptable to show love between two non-LGBT ponies, like Shining and Cadence, but the moment that LGBT comes up, that is automatically view as 'inappropriate and preachy'. There is absolutely no real logic to any argument like that, in the end it is actually a tad hypocritical. Love is love, and showing that between two same gendered characters is PERFECTLY FINE. 11 Redeem me into childhood. Show me myself without a shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,488 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 well we had a gay/metrosexual in the form of stevenmagnet When did they confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riganthor 484 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 When did they confirm this? never confirmed, but does it needs to be confirmed? do we need to get everything spoon fed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,488 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 never confirmed, but does it needs to be confirmed? do we need to get everything spoon fed? No, but if you are gonna claim that they already have introduced a lgbt character then you also need to provide some proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concerned Bystander 2,905 April 26, 2016 Share April 26, 2016 never confirmed, but does it needs to be confirmed? do we need to get everything spoon fed? Exactly, with both Steven Magnet and Lyra/Sweetie Drops they left it ambiguous enough for people to project or interpret however they wish to see it, all without making an unnecessary fuss about it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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