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Peace is a lie, there is only passion

Through passion I gain strength

Through strength I gain power

Through power I gain victory

Through victory my chains are broken

The Force shall free me

 

While I respect the Sith code for its emphasis on individual strength and channeling passion, I prefer the Jedi and would gladly take up the lifestyle in their world if I lived in it.

 

There is no emotion, there is peace

There is no ignorance, there is knowledge

There is no passion, there is serenity

There is no chaos, there is harmony

There is no death, there is the Force

 

Being religious and spiritual myself, the vocational lifestyle of the Jedi does have some appeal to me. To be truly free and at peace. To be at one with myself and the rest of the universe.

 

Of course the question more is, which one do I LIKE more not which one I'd be. Well I'd still say the Jedi in this one. The EU Legends and new canon alike has revealed that Jedi do indeed come in all kinds with their own varying personalities, abilities, and interpretations of the Force. On average, I find them more interesting than their Sith counterparts. They too have interesting characters, but I find more on the former than the latter.

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I would like to know which you like more. For me I also loved the sith and the empire because of Darth Vader.

 

Sith is cooler but Jedi are more powerful cuz numbers


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I like the Jedi more because they are good, and evil has no future. 

Villain characters are cool, sure, and they do their thing with some style and even glamour. I mean honestly, Vader rocks! 

But then again, so does Yoda.

in reality Jedi vs Sith should be called Wise vs Foolish. Anakin was a great Jedi but was duped into turning dark by Palpatine. Not many people are truly evil, just foolish. And they can be duped into blindly doing evil things by real evildoers too weak or shortsighted to control their own passions. Hence their very foundation is shaky from the start.

The Jedi have a harder life, but they have something lasting to gain from it; wisdom, strength and knowledge. Evil is a road to nowhere. Easy, yes, but too fleeting in its rewards. The Sith may have a cool, dynamic image, but it's a facade for a weakness that tries to convince itself and others it has strength. 

So, as much as I like Vader's armor and sinister breathing, and Maul's cool facial designs, I'll stick with the earth-tone Jedi for the long haul. 

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Neither. Why? The Sith are obviously not good guys, wanting to dominate the entire galaxy and all that, though they do have the coolest stuff. But the Jedi? They're not good either. "But the story portrays them as good guys, so they must be the good guys!" I hear you cry. Well they aren't. For starters their idea of balance isn't balance at all. They want to remove the presence of the dark side and leave only the light. That's not balance. Balance is an equal distribution of the two. People also tend to forget that the Jedi are no strangers to taking innocent lives: with them leading the Republic slaughter on Korriban during the days of the Old Republic; and neglecting and unjustly persecuting the Kaleesh when they were fighting off their slavers with no Republic support because the Kaleesh were not members of the Senate, but their slavers were (General Greivous being of the Kaleesh, with this being the reason why he hated the Jedi).

"So who do you side with?" I hear you ask. I am a Grey Jedi, true bringer of balance for I acknowledge the existence and usefulness of emotion and the Dark Side, yet I have no wish to dominate the galaxy, with a notable example of a Grey Jedi being Luke Skywalker, as in Return of the Jedi he force chokes a Gamorrean Guard, expresses high levels of arrogance when talking to Jabba and gives in to anger and hate when fighting the Emperor and Darth Vader, going as far as attempting to strike the Emperor down in anger, yet still managing to promote balance to the force.

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The jedi are okay, but they aren't allowed to show much emotion.

The sith are cool, but they seem a little unstable mentally.

They are both great, but in different ways and for different reasons. 

 

 

If I had to pick one I'd probably be a grey, but if I had to pick one out of those options then the sith since they always seem to have the bigger numbers in the end. 

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I like the Jedi the way they are portrayed in the original trilogy. In the prequels, they are show to be really flawed. I like the sith a lot. They are more badass. I wouldn't side with either. Both are flawed. 

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Neither. Why? The Sith are obviously not good guys, wanting to dominate the entire galaxy and all that, though they do have the coolest stuff. But the Jedi? They're not good either. "But the story portrays them as good guys, so they must be the good guys!" I hear you cry. Well they aren't. For starters their idea of balance isn't balance at all. They want to remove the presence of the dark side and leave only the light. That's not balance. Balance is an equal distribution of the two. People also tend to forget that the Jedi are no strangers to taking innocent lives: with them leading the Republic slaughter on Korriban during the days of the Old Republic; and neglecting and unjustly persecuting the Kaleesh when they were fighting off their slavers with no Republic support because the Kaleesh were not members of the Senate, but their slavers were (General Greivous being of the Kaleesh, with this being the reason why he hated the Jedi).

"So who do you side with?" I hear you ask. I am a Grey Jedi, true bringer of balance for I acknowledge the existence and usefulness of emotion and the Dark Side, yet I have no wish to dominate the galaxy, with a notable example of a Grey Jedi being Luke Skywalker, as in Return of the Jedi he force chokes a Gamorrean Guard, expresses high levels of arrogance when talking to Jabba and gives in to anger and hate when fighting the Emperor and Darth Vader, going as far as attempting to strike the Emperor down in anger, yet still managing to promote balance to the force.

 

You could also say that Luke's new lightsaber, being green instead of the usual blue or red, reflected his new "neutrality."

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You could also say that Luke's new lightsaber, being green instead of the usual blue or red, reflected his new "neutrality."

 

Well, no, not really. Although I like your thinking, green in the old Jedi order was traditionally used by Jedi Consulars; the diplomats. Obviously they weren't just limited to green, blue, and red (red being usually only used by dark Jedi, Sith or not, because it usually required dark side synthesis to acquire a red matrix crystal) with there being Jedi with yellow and purple sabers, green and blue being the traditional colours. Yoda had a green saber, and he was far from neutral.


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Well, no, not really. Although I like your thinking, green in the old Jedi order was traditionally used by Jedi Consulars; the diplomats. Obviously they weren't just limited to green, blue, and red (red being usually only used by dark Jedi, Sith or not, because it usually required dark side synthesis to acquire a red matrix crystal) with there being Jedi with yellow and purple sabers, green and blue being the traditional colours. Yoda had a green saber, and he was far from neutral.

 

I meant in terms of release order.

 

ROTJ came out before any of that, so Luke's was the very first green one we saw.


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I meant in terms of release order.

 

ROTJ came out before any of that, so Luke's was the very first green one we saw.

 

Hmm...fair point. I hadn't considered that.


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The Jedi are far from perfect and have engaged in some atrocities themselves such as the padawan massacre of Taris for example where these Jedi Consulars murdered their padawans due to this prophecy which they interpreted as one of the padawans going to the dark side. The irony is that what they did was the epitome of dark side Machiavellian calculations. To be fair most Jedi wouldn't approve of such a thing, but there are flaws in their ideology which inadvertently help the dark side, case in point being their position on attachments and emotions. Since the Jedi have been so discouraged from expressing any emotion or attachment they are emotionally stunted and have no clue how to deal with the strong emotions all sapient beings in the Star Wars universe experience. If Anakin had someone to talk to and didn't have to keep his relationship with Padme secret and was able to talk out his fears about that prophecy where it showed her dying than it is entirely possible that he might not have gone to the dark side.

 

As for the Sith, they have done evil things but are far from monolithic and in theory one could be a Sith without doing evil things and being a bit more gray which is why I tend to favor the Sith slightly more in addition to the badass factor with all the crazy feats the ancient Sith have done like Darth Andendu for example who invented the "body transfer" technique and was able to live for centuries by hopping from body to body thanks to that.

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Peace is a lie, there is only passion Through passion I gain strength Through strength I gain power Through power I gain victory Through victory my chains are broken The Force shall free me While I respect the Sith code for its emphasis on individual strength and channeling passion, I prefer the Jedi and would gladly take up the lifestyle in their world if I lived in it. There is no emotion, there is peace There is no ignorance, there is knowledge There is no passion, there is serenity There is no chaos, there is harmony There is no death, there is the Force

 

 

Knowledge that fosters ignorance is not truth.

Harmony does not eschew passion

Peace is a goal, not a guarantee.

Serenity in the teeth of chaos is the true test.

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I'm not gonna lie... Both sides have their merits... Their pros and cons.

Here's a few to say the least. The Jedi: They're practitioners or goodness and justice often perform heroic deeds. Pro. They live a life of service to noble causes. The Jedi way is also less destructive. I'll explain that more when I cover The Sith. Now for some cons for the Jedi. They often start training young Jedi or younglings from very young ages. Once they sense a force sensitive they investigate and when I say "very young" I mean babies. Yes, they come over your mother sometimes without asking and take the infants right out of their cribs. The Sith on occasion. Practice this too. Another thing I'll go over. They start training young because they're innocent. But as for Anakkin Skywalker 9 is too old. I imagine this is due to the Jedi swearing of feelings or emotions that lead to negative traits: Attatchment, wanting, regret and possession. I guess that goes with attachment. More cons than pros of the Jedi Order is they swear off feelings that come from love or relationships of a romantic nature. I guess a Jedi cannot perform his or her duties and raise a family... The Jedi Order is weirdly foggy veiled. They say they're just yet many Sith were once a Jedi. Some Jedi disagree with the way The Jedi do specific things.

 

The Jedi have a Code: There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the force.

 

Basically life IS ultimately more vituous and peaceful. The Jedi is without flaw and corruption. Right. A totally pure Jedi. in death anyways... They turn into a glow force spirit. Offering advice and console to still living Jedi struggling with their roles as Jedi. Well fellow Starwarrians. Join me in my Sith Order argument.

 

TO BE CONTINUED...

Right so last time I discussed the pros and cons of The Jedi Order. Join me now as I talk about the benefits of the dark side. But that path is a double edged sword. The Jedi Order is definitely less destructive. Hear me out... The Sith was once like The Jedi. Having an academy and even a council. They vigorously trained their "acolytes" their padawans by using not training lightsaber said. But a steel rod fused with toxin from an insect that if the rod struck you the toxin would paralyze it. Giving the illusion of losing a limb. This was over 1000 years before the battle Yavin. Most recognized as BBY. The times after is of course. ABY. Consider it as like our BC and AD. Back to then there was a man, Darth Bane but he was just Bane once he joined the Sith on Corriban. Bane, Who saw the Sith order would need a complete overhaul rewrite. Rose to heights that had him training under the order's best Master. He later became strong, he instated to him and to the rest of the council that there needed to be change... With him taking over. He killed his master a thing the Sith would take advantage of. It goes with the code he created after the Sith Temple was in ashes. This is called "The Rule of Two" vaguely described by Yoda in Ep1. "Always two there are. No more no less". Bane's Sith states "There will be two, no more no less. One to obtain the power, the other to crave it." Bane basically ensured and knew his way would have Sith at each other's throats. One would take the role of master by betraying and killing his or her master. The other reason was there should always be two Sith. A master and an apprentice. This was instated to keep better to the shadows and in secret.

 

There's raw power in the dark side. Somethings the Jedi can do but don't because they understand restraint and they practice defense not offensive. They also understand that the dark side's pull is dangerous to let take hold. Knowledge can be very powerful. A Sith seeks both power and knowledge. If he or she does not recognize that knowledge wasted in the pursuit of power is foolish.

 

I mentioned that The Jedi Order is definitely less destructive.

Makes it seem like the dark side as like an addictive drug... It is.

 

Look up any Darth's picture and observe them well. You see them, scarred, pale, sickly, some sporting a Darth Vader apparatus. You could argue that the training. Both torture, and vigorously cruel especially if you consider dark side kids. I recall Darth Sideous in training his apprentice a young Darth Maul. By creating attack bots set to kill. During trading he'd throw rocks at him. Needless to say the training worked. The Sith aim to create conflict, anger and great rage. A Sith draws power from their passion. The dark side of the force to enhance their power and rage. Sometimes raw power and brute strength can be good. However while the dark side is beneficial. Like a drug it takes away from you. That's why most Sith look as they do. Not from torturous training or lightsaber duels. But because of the cancerous affects of the force.

There's some good that comes from the dark side.

 

I present the Sith Code: Peace is a lie, There is passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power. Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The force shall set me free.

 

I could relay this theory I once saw that there's some flaw to this pledge. As I said the dark side is like a two edge sword. The life from young to master... If you survive. You become a Darth. The name given to all Dark Lords of The Sith... Bet you never knew DARTH was an acronym. Anyways. The more you take from the dark side the more it eats away and weakens you. You can become stronger but it all depends on how much force you can stand... And it IS addictive. Take Palpatine his look from the old trilogy Return of The Jedi. I always wondered why he looked like that. All pastie and a texture of cheese. And bad dental care. He LOVED the dark side. He used it often and a lot that cancerous affect from the drug like force. Ya see what I mean. I wager that he always looked that way even before Ep 1. Imagine if you will Palpatine fashioned some kinda make up mask, to hide his force weakened face. The moment Ep3 during the duel between Palpatine and Mace Windu. The Lightning bounced back to the Sith. Melted away the mask revealing his true face. But now even more deformed.

 

At least The Sith are given more freedoms than their Jedi counterparts. They can fall into deep passionate love. Heck old Darth Bane loved a few women in his youth. That betrayed him, poisoned him and he survived. Not so lucky for his lovers. Also he ended up having to live inside a permanent suit of armor made from parasitic beetles. They deflect lightsaber strikes but they feed of his body when he used the force. There are legendary Sith ranging from powerful to the most powerful. Ultimately if you think that you would use the force for good. In theory you could but the dark side is evil. And if you use it basically you won't want to. You'd only use it for dark deeds.

It'll make you crave power, and more if you've successfully attained it. The dark side and you. Imagine that true victory that comes from the steps you took getting there. Then imagine wanting more. The greed consuming your mind. There is truly no peace. Plenty of new chains to be made though. I don't know where I'm going with this but if one chose to follow the Sith Code. Be ready for power and more than you can imagine. And be also ready for you young envious apprentice to plot killing you that thought in their mind, they dream of it. It's a life of hunger, betrayal, and yes unlimited power. Just be mindful that when swinging the sword you don't cut yourself.

 

I'm wondering. Was this a thread about which side they like best or which side they'd choose? In any case this might give you some knowledge into the theoretic decision.

May the force be with you.

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I'd love to be a Sith since I can use lightning and there really isn't much of a moral code to follow unlike the Jedi (correct me if I'm wrong but the Jedi seem that way). The only downside is that my lightsaber has to be red. I can't have green, purple or orange, which is a mild disappointment.


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I wanted to be a Jedi, but apparently "Jedi aren't allowed to have RED lightsabers." Seriously? Just because my favorite color red is associated with the evil Sith, I'm supposed to hate it? I don't think so!


 

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I wanted to be a Jedi, but apparently "Jedi aren't allowed to have RED lightsabers." Seriously? Just because my favorite color red is associated with the evil Sith, I'm supposed to hate it? I don't think so!

I thought that whatever color lightsaber you can build you can wield  that color.

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Knowledge that fosters ignorance is not truth.

Harmony does not eschew passion

Peace is a goal, not a guarantee.

Serenity in the teeth of chaos is the true test.

 

Agreed, as would Luke Skywalker.

 

Of course the philosophy would get one in dutch with both sides.  It will be interesting to see what movies 8 and 9 bring.

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Of course the philosophy would get one in dutch with both sides.  It will be interesting to see what movies 8 and 9 bring.

 

You can "get in touch" with both sides while still disagreeing with one or the other. Yoda understood the Dark Side enough to tell Luke the difference between the two.

 

"How will I know the good side from the bad?"

 

"You will know, when you are calm, at peace. A Jedi, uses the Force, for knowledge and defense, never attack."

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Jedi. Especially KOTOR era of the Order. I feel that there could have been more lore there to explore. The Jedi not being bogged down by too many restrictions on themselves (pre Ruusan, old EU) that I would have have loved to see.


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