Lil Pip 775 December 27, 2016 Share December 27, 2016 What parts were most memorable for you and how did they make you feel? What runs did you play? Who did you watch on youtube play it? Who is your favorite character? Did the game change you and how and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalomaniac 100 December 27, 2016 Share December 27, 2016 I saw this game on Steam for 5$ the other day. Should I get it, I don't even know what's about or if this game is decent or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,205 May 18, 2017 Share May 18, 2017 Would a negative opinion on the game be appropriate here? The reason I say that is, well, I find Undertaleto be one of the most overrated games of all time, bar none. The thing is, it has a lot of good stuff to it for sure, the music, the visuals, some of the characters, and I believe the music is the best part of the game. My main problem though, is the game itself. As an RPG, Undertale is ungodly shallow. There is little to no customization, leveling up serves nearly no purpose, in the end you are not actually playing as your own character despite the game's illusion of that and while the game does have an interesting concept with the battle system and the Act options which can result in multiple endings, I find the game to get stale very fast. Witty dialogue that sometimes comes across as immensely try-hard isn't enough to keep me interested if the gameplay loses me, especially in a game that claims to be an RPG. I also am not a fan of at least half of the dialogue and characters in the game. The best thing I have heard to summarize the writing in the game, or at least a good chunk of it, is that it is like someone took an average Tumblr user and made it into a video game. I remember seeing people get absolutely enraged in 2015 when Undertale didn't win RPG of the year. I find that hilarious, because Undertale is barely an RPG on its own merits and compared to the vast majority of the games in that genre, it simply pales in comparison from a gameplay perspective. There's nothing even close to the Materia system from FF7, the class system of Blue Dragon, fun leveling form Disgae, it doesn't have anything that hooks me into it. ProJared's playthrough of the game describes my feelings perfectly. He could not get into the game whatsoever and him being a huge fan of the RPG genre, I am not surprised. Again, not entirely sure if this post is even appropriate for this thread in particular but I felt the need to give my opinion, as worthless as it is. 1 Redeem me into childhood. Show me myself without a shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halberd 88 May 18, 2017 Share May 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kyoshi said: Would a negative opinion on the game be appropriate here? The reason I say that is, well, I find Undertaleto be one of the most overrated games of all time, bar none. The thing is, it has a lot of good stuff to it for sure, the music, the visuals, some of the characters, and I believe the music is the best part of the game. My main problem though, is the game itself. As an RPG, Undertale is ungodly shallow. There is little to no customization, leveling up serves nearly no purpose, in the end you are not actually playing as your own character despite the game's illusion of that and while the game does have an interesting concept with the battle system and the Act options which can result in multiple endings, I find the game to get stale very fast. Witty dialogue that sometimes comes across as immensely try-hard isn't enough to keep me interested if the gameplay loses me, especially in a game that claims to be an RPG. I also am not a fan of at least half of the dialogue and characters in the game. The best thing I have heard to summarize the writing in the game, or at least a good chunk of it, is that it is like someone took an average Tumblr user and made it into a video game. I remember seeing people get absolutely enraged in 2015 when Undertale didn't win RPG of the year. I find that hilarious, because Undertale is barely an RPG on its own merits and compared to the vast majority of the games in that genre, it simply pales in comparison from a gameplay perspective. There's nothing even close to the Materia system from FF7, the class system of Blue Dragon, fun leveling form Disgae, it doesn't have anything that hooks me into it. ProJared's playthrough of the game describes my feelings perfectly. He could not get into the game whatsoever and him being a huge fan of the RPG genre, I am not surprised. Again, not entirely sure if this post is even appropriate for this thread in particular but I felt the need to give my opinion, as worthless as it is. I agree with the bold segments of your post. I am never going to claim a video game of any kind as "the greatest of all time," but there are countless games that I find receive too much praise. Undertale fits this description nicely. However, I can understand the limits of customization, and I did find the characters as well as the writing to be competent, if somewhat quirky. My biggest criticism of the game involves the amount of exposition that it takes. What I found amazing about Undertale was that it took its "meta" aspects and drove them home. Also, I SUCK at bullet hell games. I have to give it credit for making me bother to beat it multiple times, despite blending a genre that I despise with one that I feel is so-so (turn-based RPGs). It has more bright spots than blemishes. Edited May 18, 2017 by Halberd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatonRyu 1,036 May 18, 2017 Share May 18, 2017 What parts were most memorable for you and how did they make you feel? I felt the game only really began to shine in the later stages of the run in the first run, then again in the last part of True Pacifist. From the perspective of how atmospheric it is, overall the Genocide Route did a better job than the normal runs. The most memorable parts of the game, I think, are those in New Home near the ending of the game, and the battles following that. What really stood out for me, though, was the music. The music in many places is absolutely perfect and I think it creates a lot of the atmosphere in the game. What runs did you play? I played True Pacifist and I started on Genocide, but got my ass handed to me at the first boss so I gave up. Who did you watch on youtube play it? ProJared, whose opinions on the game (okay, but not worth the colossal levels of praise it was getting) matched my own, and JackSepticEye (since I wanted to see Genocide as well). Who is your favorite character? Chara Did the game change you and how and why? The meta concepts the Genocide Route applies made me think a bit, but I don't think I've fundamentally been changed by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaatu 28 May 21, 2017 Share May 21, 2017 I played through this one weekend over a year ago. It was the most engaging game I'd played in a while. The story, characters, and music were all really memorable. After I got my new hard drive and realized my old Steam saves were gone, I think I found an excuse to play through again (always Pacifist for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Bat 3,568 May 21, 2017 Share May 21, 2017 Spoilers will go in spoiler boxes. Most memorable part Spoiler Asriel Fight or leaving Goat Mom Runs played True pacifist (Loved) Neutral (Meh) and true genocide (Hated this one) Youtubers None before hand watch Jacksepticeye after I finished it personally Favorite character Spoiler Asriel Dremmurr Did the game change me? While the game didn't change me much it had a huge emotional impact on me I couldn't believe a game could tug on my heart strings like how undertale did I was blown away by the amazing characters and the story behind it I even felt this way after beating Final fantasy 15. For me it set a high bar for the standards of video games. 1 My Ocs: The Chaos Siblings Maple Bat and Woodland Orchestra. Profile picture by a wonderful user named trash. Signature originally drawn by Lucas Aldebrandi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospekt 11,037 June 21, 2017 Share June 21, 2017 I enjoy Undertale. It kind of sucked getting so much of it spoiled in the first several months after its release, but honestly it was one of the most emotionally rewarding games I have ever played. Especially my second playthrough, which was True Pacifist style. I agree wholeheartedly with some people like Kyoshi above who don't love it from an RPG standpoint, but I'm willing to let that slide because I am not a huge RPG gamer... only a run-of-the-mill Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Pokémon, Paper Mario, etc. player. Though I did finally play Earthbound for the first time after completing Undertale, just because I had heard Earthbound was a major influence. Not quite sure which is better, though Earthbound has certainly stood the test of time while Undertale is still only a couple years old. But you know what's really strange? You can play through the game over and over as much as you please, but the game remembers every single playthrough and adjusts accordingly every time you start over. Very unique feature. There are plenty of secrets that can only be found after multiple playthroughs. Anyways... What parts were most memorable for you and how did they make you feel? So many parts... not gonna go into too many specifics, due to spoilers and whatnot. What runs did you play? My first run was Neutral, then True Pacifist (my favorite), and then True Genocide. Who did you watch on youtube play it? A bunch of them, most notably JackSepticEye. In fact, it was one of the first of his playthroughs that I ever watched. Who is your favorite character? Sans. Without going into too many specifics, he's basically my brother in skeleton form. That makes him extra lovable. Did the game change you and how and why? Undertale is one of those games that tries real hard to speak to your very, no pun intended, soul. Decided to follow a certain character's advice and become a genocidal maniac? Congratulations, the game makes sure you feel like trash. Decided to defy that character and spare everyone you encountered? Congratulations, this time around the game becomes a powerful story of compassion. 1 Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobot 1,436 June 21, 2017 Share June 21, 2017 This is a remix of one of song in undertale.... I think it's amazing 1 beep beep (formally known as woodchunks66) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganondox 899 June 21, 2017 Share June 21, 2017 On 5/17/2017 at 11:07 PM, Kyoshi said: Would a negative opinion on the game be appropriate here? The reason I say that is, well, I find Undertaleto be one of the most overrated games of all time, bar none. The thing is, it has a lot of good stuff to it for sure, the music, the visuals, some of the characters, and I believe the music is the best part of the game. My main problem though, is the game itself. As an RPG, Undertale is ungodly shallow. There is little to no customization, leveling up serves nearly no purpose, in the end you are not actually playing as your own character despite the game's illusion of that and while the game does have an interesting concept with the battle system and the Act options which can result in multiple endings, I find the game to get stale very fast. Witty dialogue that sometimes comes across as immensely try-hard isn't enough to keep me interested if the gameplay loses me, especially in a game that claims to be an RPG. I also am not a fan of at least half of the dialogue and characters in the game. The best thing I have heard to summarize the writing in the game, or at least a good chunk of it, is that it is like someone took an average Tumblr user and made it into a video game. I remember seeing people get absolutely enraged in 2015 when Undertale didn't win RPG of the year. I find that hilarious, because Undertale is barely an RPG on its own merits and compared to the vast majority of the games in that genre, it simply pales in comparison from a gameplay perspective. There's nothing even close to the Materia system from FF7, the class system of Blue Dragon, fun leveling form Disgae, it doesn't have anything that hooks me into it. ProJared's playthrough of the game describes my feelings perfectly. He could not get into the game whatsoever and him being a huge fan of the RPG genre, I am not surprised. Again, not entirely sure if this post is even appropriate for this thread in particular but I felt the need to give my opinion, as worthless as it is. The problem isn't that the game is overrated (from an artistic stand point it's one of the greatest games ever made, not even exaggerating), it's that you are judging it on based on criteria that simply don't apply to it. You need to approach it not as what you expect from an RPG, but from what Undertale is setting out to accomplish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZethaPonderer 2,201 June 23, 2017 Share June 23, 2017 (edited) On 5/18/2017 at 0:07 AM, Kyoshi said: Would a negative opinion on the game be appropriate here? The reason I say that is, well, I find Undertaleto be one of the most overrated games of all time, bar none. The thing is, it has a lot of good stuff to it for sure, the music, the visuals, some of the characters, and I believe the music is the best part of the game. My main problem though, is the game itself. As an RPG, Undertale is ungodly shallow. There is little to no customization, leveling up serves nearly no purpose, in the end you are not actually playing as your own character despite the game's illusion of that and while the game does have an interesting concept with the battle system and the Act options which can result in multiple endings, I find the game to get stale very fast. Witty dialogue that sometimes comes across as immensely try-hard isn't enough to keep me interested if the gameplay loses me, especially in a game that claims to be an RPG. I also am not a fan of at least half of the dialogue and characters in the game. The best thing I have heard to summarize the writing in the game, or at least a good chunk of it, is that it is like someone took an average Tumblr user and made it into a video game. I remember seeing people get absolutely enraged in 2015 when Undertale didn't win RPG of the year. I find that hilarious, because Undertale is barely an RPG on its own merits and compared to the vast majority of the games in that genre, it simply pales in comparison from a gameplay perspective. There's nothing even close to the Materia system from FF7, the class system of Blue Dragon, fun leveling form Disgae, it doesn't have anything that hooks me into it. ProJared's playthrough of the game describes my feelings perfectly. He could not get into the game whatsoever and him being a huge fan of the RPG genre, I am not surprised. Again, not entirely sure if this post is even appropriate for this thread in particular but I felt the need to give my opinion, as worthless as it is. Kyoshi, I agree with you 100% on the matter with Undertale. ProJared put it best, showing mercy to the monsters is no different of a mechanic than killing them in the long run. At least with killing monsters it makes sense though repetitive, but the repetition of sparing monsters in Undertale really doesn't make sense. I just spared the monster a second ago, only for the same monster to appear through Random Battles and bullet hell the fk outta me. Would make a lot more sense sparing enemies if there was just a little bit more variety to them. Most of the monsters are jerks who all want a piece of the main hero. Why should I show mercy to them anyway if they display such sentience and free will to begin with? I get it, its a video game and you need to make it fun, but this isn't how I would do it. I just wish there was more emphasis on the sparing mechanic where I get to have conversations with monsters and get to know about their backstory like in any RPG. But, with Undertale you have to piece the meta-narrative of the story to make any sense out of this, otherwise remove the meta narrative aspect of the game and all you get is a bland mediocre bullet hell game trying so hard to prove how its a deconstruction of a typical RPG and even in that sense it fails because of the sparing mechanic acting the same way as killing enemies. So really what exactly is the point? That RPGs have changed and its no longer the good old DnD, Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest days? Whoopdie doo, Zelda is already challenging the definition of RPG alongside Metroid so I don't get what the author is trying to accomplish with Undertale. It's just that Undertale has this sense of arrogance where I cannot begin to stand this game judging my every decision I put in this game. Who does this game think it is? God? Cause I already am being judged IRL thank you very much. I don't play games just so it can start judging my every decision. You may perceive your opinion as worthless, but to me it meant something so if you still persist to beat yourself down for no good reason then that's your decision and I've been there done that a long time ago. Just don't want other people to make the same mistake as me y'know? However, I understood your opinion and respect it since I'm an RPG enthusiast like ProJared. Edited June 23, 2017 by ZethaPonderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobot 1,436 June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 Anyone here part of the Undertale fandom too. Also i think this is the best Undertale remix! every time i listen to this i think of MLP beep beep (formally known as woodchunks66) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugarCoatxMarblePie 701 June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 Does this answer your question lol. 1 All things that interact with the world exert a force. All things that exert a force have an opposite and equal force. Ergo, nothing immaterial exists [because where would the opposite force be without material as a medium?]. Ergo god doesn't exist immaterially. Also if the universe were infinite itd take infinite time for a god to make it. If it were finite it'd be subject to entropy. Which means an eternal god can't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiri 7,297 June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 Hiya, @woodchunks66! Since your thread is gaming-related, I moved it next door to Media Discussion. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospekt 11,037 June 29, 2017 Share June 29, 2017 (edited) @woodchunks66 There are plenty of us Undertale fans around here. If you are on the desktop version of the forums, look at the bottom of my signature. Also, Napstablook is bae. Edited June 29, 2017 by Prospekt 1 Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Piranha 29,497 June 29, 2017 Share June 29, 2017 I've been aiming to play Undertale, but I'll wait until the PS4 version comes now that has been announced 1 Sig by Discords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobot 1,436 June 29, 2017 Share June 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Steve Piranha said: I've been aiming to play Undertale, but I'll wait until the PS4 version comes now that has been announced Same man I just can't wait beep beep (formally known as woodchunks66) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bun 681 June 30, 2017 Share June 30, 2017 I dunno if anyone really cares to talk about this game anymore but I'll just leave this here. (Also this thread has gone far off track lol) Undertale is a very difficult game to talk about. I am loyal and avid fan of this game, but all my friends around me at the time were disinterested or outright appalled by this game. Deconstructing Undertale isn't hard. It's quite a simplistic game, and if you don't like it you'll know immediately after playing the first 5 minutes. It's obvious that Undertale doesn't behave like other JRPGs/RPGs. Everything about the game's mechanics are more or less arbitrary, and as such isn't a game that you would play for it's intense gameplay. It's suppose to enthrall you in a world where the mechanics break the 4th wall, but not all the characters are aware of it. Undertale is a small indie game that was never meant to blow up. It got too big for its humble niche messaging to mean anything, and I feel like it would have had a better impact on people if it was a random game some guy stumbled onto and had the time of his life. Unfortunately it became more of a fad, and now it will be remembered as "the game that Tumblr wouldn't shut up about". 1 JustMonika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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