Zyrael 1,471 June 28, 2017 Share June 28, 2017 22 hours ago, Burpy said: I dont know how little kids would feel about that If it was male-on-male action, I could get behind it. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing anything new would they 2 veritati adhaerere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,866 June 28, 2017 Share June 28, 2017 3 hours ago, natemans said: I'd think that implying or showing a gay character/relationship would increase sales at a higher rate than decrease them. The amount of progressives vastly outnumber the regressives in the developed world. And the amount of ambivalent consumers outnumber both, which is another reason may large companies that produce toys tend not to take a gamble. Predicting the buying mood of those in middle or who just don't give much thought to politics has proven to be too difficult to predict and bank on. I've also yet to see a published analysis of the potential of LGBT themed toys in any business journal get any notice from corporate decision makers. 3 hours ago, Zyrael said: If it was male-on-male action, I could get behind it. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing anything new would they Wow! That's exactly how my kid caught The Gay!!!! Who would have known? And yes, I mentioned that the inclusion of a gay character occasionally makes me wonder if it was to be supportive, or if there was a financial incentive. Experience tells me both, hence my suspicion at times. The idea of inclusion for the sake of PR or ratings feels oily to me a little. 3 hours ago, Zyrael said: If it was male-on-male action, I could get behind it. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing anything new would they Wow! That's exactly how my kid caught The Gay!!!! Who would have known? And yes, I mentioned that the inclusion of a gay character occasionally makes me wonder if it was to be supportive, or if there was a financial incentive. Experience tells me both, hence my suspicion at times. The idea of inclusion for the sake of PR or ratings feels oily to me a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyScholar 1,584 June 28, 2017 Share June 28, 2017 (edited) I would be okay with such, as long as said character is not Rainbow Dash, but though much like a couple above the issue would be not making it a big deal or have it be their defining characterization. For said character not to perhaps need to verbalize their sexual preference. Maybe just have it that you have two mares or two stallions introduced who are married or in a relationship, while again not having the Mane Six or anyone else make a big deal out of such. Possibly slight confusion or surprise maybe, perhaps one finding it a bit odd, but still accepting. Anything more would be too much and make too much off a big deal out of such. Even what i offered before might be too much in some people's eyes yet perhaps not. Edited June 28, 2017 by EquestrianScholar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospekt 11,021 June 28, 2017 Share June 28, 2017 I don't want political correctness to define the show. But on the other hand, Hasbro just needs to get over it if they want a gay character but they're too afraid of boycotts and whatnot. Besides, I've encountered some fundamentalists here and there on the internet (the "THIS SHOW IS SATANIC!" type) who hate that the show even has "magic" in the title. Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughshod 719 June 28, 2017 Share June 28, 2017 It seems unlikely to me at this point that they'll go any further than implying and make an explicit statement. The truth is always rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natemans 0 June 28, 2017 Share June 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Roughshod said: It seems unlikely to me at this point that they'll go any further than implying and make an explicit statement. Making an explicit statement for an LGBT couple is stupid. Most cartoons imply it (like The Loud House for example just showed Luna looking at a girl name Sam with a note and smiling, or Clyde just having two dads randomly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT-1138 3,183 June 29, 2017 Share June 29, 2017 C'mon, I think we all know this guy isn't the straightest stallion around... 2 Love is a most potent magic My FiMFiction | My DA | My Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hierok 11,832 July 1, 2017 Share July 1, 2017 On 29-6-2017 at 2:53 AM, CT-1138 said: C'mon, I think we all know this guy isn't the straightest stallion around... I believe you are right, but don't let him hear that. He might be offended. I think Steven Magnet is also gay and maybe Doctor whooves too. I don't have any kind of source therefor, but it just popped to my head when I watched Slice of Life. If I don't understand something or Interpret it wrong, I'm dutch. Sometimes I gamble for meanings of the words. And sometimes I write the wrong words, like week and weak for example. Sorry for it already. Discord, Twilight, Sunset, Fluttershy, Starlight, Rarity, Luna, Celestia, Big MCintosh, Cadence, Shining, Minuette, Lyra, Rara, Sweetie Belle, Cheerilee, Derpy, Spike. !Feel Free To Talk And Walk Where Ever You Like On This Forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daring_Do 552 July 1, 2017 Share July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Hierok said: I believe you are right, but don't let him hear that. He might be offended. I think Steven Magnet is also gay and maybe Doctor whooves too. I don't have any kind of source therefor, but it just popped to my head when I watched Slice of Life. Mike Vogel described Steven Magnet as gay when he was tweeting during the episode. Note Vogel also simply described Lyra Heartstrings and Sweetie Drops as besties. (Vogel himself is gay, by the way, if that makes any difference). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenGumdrop 164 July 1, 2017 Share July 1, 2017 I always thought it was kind of obvious that Stephen Magnet was supposed to be gay. I mean I heard and saw him and thought he was supposed to represent a gay character. 2 Proud Pegasister and Dog Mom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlinkZ 1,151 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 > normalizing > implying gay/lesbain si normal..which it is not so no i DON'T want to see such things shoved in my face. "unreasonable" i have plenty of reasons thank you. butn o keep confusing the young ones until they don't know up from donw anymore Zubric(fimfiction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastementSparkle 20,329 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, BlinkZ said: > normalizing > implying gay/lesbain si normal..which it is not so no i DON'T want to see such things shoved in my face. "unreasonable" i have plenty of reasons thank you. butn o keep confusing the young ones until they don't know up from donw anymore Lucky for you, people with your opinion are exactly why Hasbro wouldn't put it in the show. Anyway, what reasons could you have? Because I can't think of any good ones, and I'm curious. Something being "Not normal" isn't really a good one, as it doesn't really matter whether being Gay is normal or not, they're not hurting anyone just by having a different sexual orientation that the majority don't share. Being a brony isn't "Normal" either, now is it? Kids getting confused isn't an issue either I don't think, all it takes is a bit of explaining to them really. 1 Twilight is best pony. Why hello MLPForums! What have ya been up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envy 6,220 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, BlinkZ said: > normalizing > implying gay/lesbain si normal..which it is not so no i DON'T want to see such things shoved in my face. "unreasonable" i have plenty of reasons thank you. butn o keep confusing the young ones until they don't know up from donw anymore So we can have plenty of heterosexual relationships everywhere, but even the concept a single homosexual relationship is shoving it in your face. Screw that. The more people keep pretending that homosexuality is inherently inappropriate and non-normal, the more issues are going to be caused. You know why? Because we flipping exist and cause no harm to anyone. However, the idea that children should not be exposed to the concept of being LGBT *is* harmful. You want to know exactly how harmful it is? Children who have no exposure to the concepts are still going to grow up to be LGBT either way, and when it's been such a taboo that they can't even hear about it, it causes confusion. It causes self-hatred. It can lead to suicide. And then on the flip side, when you don't expose straight cisgender children to the concept of being LGBT, they inherently see it as a taboo and I shouldn't have to tell you where that can lead. Hate, and in extreme cases (which does happen) violence. Media matters. LGBT people are people. We should be treated as such. 5 Everything needs more woodwind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,486 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, BlinkZ said: so no i DON'T want to see such things shoved in my face. Question, how is gay people existing "shoving it in your face"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlinkZ 1,151 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 32 minutes ago, Yamet said: Question, how is gay people existing "shoving it in your face"? Fine was the wrong use type of words. was more annoyed at the fact that of "Oh mane six having stallions as crushes ew" and then "oh mare friends yay!" is what annoys me. Society so backwards somehow being straight is taboo! Zubric(fimfiction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath 2,486 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 Just now, BlinkZ said: was more annoyed at the fact that of "Oh mane six having stallions as crushes ew" and then "oh mare friends yay!" is what annoys me. I haven't really seen anyone being against the idea of the mane six being straight, so I'm still not entirely sure what your point is. I mean, I know that more than a few doesn't like the idea of Twilight being with Flash but that has less to do it being a straight ship and more with Flash's lack of character. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastementSparkle 20,329 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 Just now, BlinkZ said: Fine was the wrong use type of words. was more annoyed at the fact that of "Oh mane six having stallions as crushes ew" and then "oh mare friends yay!" is what annoys me. Society so backwards somehow being straight is taboo! As far as I can see, most people weren't really talking about one of the Mane Six in particular having a marefriend, just that there could be a gay character on the show, doesn't have to be one of the Mane Six. Personally I'd prefer none of the M6 have romantic plots at all, straight or otherwise, just wouldn't mind somepony outside of them having one. Nobody's treating being straight as a taboo here. Most objections to the M6 having dates or crushes has nothing to do with it being Gay or straight anyway, and more just to do with not wanting that kind of thing in the show at all, or worries about the quality of writing. Twilight is best pony. Why hello MLPForums! What have ya been up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlinkZ 1,151 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Yamet said: I haven't really seen anyone being against the idea of the mane six being straight, so I'm still not entirely sure what your point is. I mean, I know that more than a few doesn't like the idea of Twilight being with Flash but that has less to do it being a straight ship and more with Flash's lack of character. Sorry. didn't mean to butt into a topic that I can't really phrase my opinion right. yes it valid I just can't find the right words to use is all. move along I'll just go. Zubric(fimfiction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrubbed user 3,417 July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, BlinkZ said: Sorry. didn't mean to butt into a topic that I can't really phrase my opinion right. yes it valid I just can't find the right words to use is all. move along I'll just go. It's not that you can't phrase it right, it's the borderline homophobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrond 3,263 July 4, 2017 Share July 4, 2017 7 hours ago, BlinkZ said: was more annoyed at the fact that of "Oh mane six having stallions as crushes ew" and then "oh mare friends yay!" is what annoys me. Society so backwards somehow being straight is taboo! 2 That's not about what's "taboo," it's a little more that plenty of cartoons with MLP's audience have the main characters in straight relationships, so not only would having them in same-sex relationships provide nice representation for children who could most benefit from it, but it's also just something different from the norm. That said, I don't want the mane six in relationships regardless of orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,386 July 4, 2017 Share July 4, 2017 On 6/27/2017 at 8:53 AM, cmarston1 said: Well they already ship teased the heck out of Lyra and Bon Bon, even if they are only friends in canon, so I say the show might as well make them an actual couple, but I know Hasbro would never let that happen. So... Lyra = Sailor Neptune, and Bon Bon = Sailor Uranus, basically? By @Emerald Heart.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moved to Elsewhere 11,331 July 4, 2017 Share July 4, 2017 If written well, then I'd be okay with it. If you want an example of a cartoon that included gay/bi characters well without feeling the need to scream, "LOOK AT HOW POLITICALLY CORRECT WE ARE" would be The Loud House. Yes, the show features a character who has two dads and one of the sister's was recently confirmed bi. But what makes those work is that there is more to their characters than just being gay. So basically MLP should follow a similar route to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest July 4, 2017 Share July 4, 2017 I'd be completely fine with it, in fact, that sounds good to me. Though it's easy to see why they aren't creating any homosexual characters since it's a "kids show" and all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarston1 5,959 July 4, 2017 Share July 4, 2017 10 hours ago, A.V. said: So... Lyra = Sailor Neptune, and Bon Bon = Sailor Uranus, basically? I was thinking more of the lines of Lyra and Bon Bon = Ruby and Sapphire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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